How to undervolt your CPU for cooler temps
Vložit
- čas přidán 17. 04. 2020
- We all know that you an get major results with AMD and undervolting... but what happens when you try it with Intel as well?
Get your JayzTwoCents Merch Here! - crowdmade.com/collections/jay...
○○○○○○ Items featured in this video available at Amazon ○○○○○○
► Amazon US - bit.ly/1meybOF
► Amazon UK - amzn.to/Zx813L
► Amazon Canada - amzn.to/1tl6vc6
••• Follow me on your favorite Social Media! •••
Facebook: / jayztwocents
Twitter: / jayztwocents
Instagram: / jayztwocents
SUBSCRIBE! bit.ly/sub2JayzTwoCents - Věda a technologie
"I'm going to show you how to unvolt your CPU" *Turns PC off* "see how easy that was"
Adam Lynn 😂
100% power efficient (or does the PSU's wake up circuit use a tiny bit of power?)
@@soupwizard Computers always draw power when off, unless physically removed from the power source.
@@soupwizard not quite 100% but damn close to 100% - there's always a standby circuit.
*rips out power lines from house* "and that is how you easily improve your home's safety by unvolting it"
97c not that bad,
Litterally everyone's moms laptop: pathetic
lol
No
> person claims fine
> laptop runs like shit
CPU: *Literally Burning*
Jay: This is fine :)
figuratively*
Funny thing: a lot of people are doing this to their AMD 3900xs and 3950x for the same reason.
Bet people will do it for the 5950xs too!
My CPU probably should've melted by now, since I never turn my PC off...
*Losing all my tabs because the browsers refuse to remember them...*
I appreciate your tutorial videos! Thanks to your help, I was able to not only overclock my 3800x, but also dropped the temps from the stock setting on my X570 Aorus Elite 6-11C, depending on the load. You continue to give me the tools to improve my ability to do it myself, which has always been far more valuable than someone doing it for me.
:)
ya know ur early when the description has a typo
EDIT: The typo in the title is fixed, the description however still has the typo.
We all know that you *an* get major results with AMD and undervolting...
Hahaha yup
@@llNecroticll title..
@@MarcusH... dude the description too
Description was fine
Some people save lives, some defend their country, others cruise CZcams for typos.
Jay: "A little warm today at 76F (24C)."
Me at the equator: "32C (89.6F) today, could have been worse"
Me too.... ambient at 35c... It's a hard time for cpu
Me living in India that also delhi at 40°C-45°C
Pathetic
@@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp
Me in australia, niiice. Now those are some familiar temps 🤣
@@timothyjn100 yea Australia has a lil more extreme temps than delhi especially Melbourne
Me in Denmark: 16°c today... Ugh it's sweat time...
Need more vids like this. Wish I could find a step-by-step guild on duel loop setup settings. Bios, fans, pump speeds, stuff like that.
I've been considering doing some videos on different computer things I'm learning
Despite you already being the expert in this overclocking stuff and already did like hundreds if not thousands of similar things youre doing in this video, i love how you still explain almost ALL the basic and little things youre doing so the viewer whos maybe a newcomer in this scene can keep up and actually understand what you are actually doing.
Great props to you!
You'd be a great teacher lol
unfortunately this video is neither thorough or well explained for someone brand new to adjusting bios settings. Jay breezes by a lot of processes and explanations , and I always see newbs simply try to replicate settings and get an unstable overclick. Vdroop and load line calibration was left out of this video entirely and is the most important make or break setting in regards to undervolting vcore at both idle and under full load.
@@mcgman8058 I would agree I'm a noob and I only understood half of what he was doing. I'm going to try undervolting but I'm still a bit nervous.
@@dvrman123 Yeah, I've built the PC and did all my research and all is well but I got up to 16 minutes of this and my brain was starting to melt. This looks like a revision course video for those who already know how to do it as there are a lot of assumptions, like you know HWMonitor inside out and what all the readings mean. This could probably be spread out of 2 or 3 videos so I will have to look for something more basic for the first time undervolter.
@@dvrman123 I know this is a year later, but I. In the same boat. Managed to undervolt my laptop cpu by -170mv. Dropped my Temps 20°c
@@bearleemadeit4718 I cant figure it out mate i have a omen 17 and i hit 95 c easy
Jay: I can't do this right because I don't have a streaming PC.
Jay: Streaming PCs are useless.
i was confused at his explanation for why it wouldn't work because it clearly can work and well too, seems lazy and i can only imagine it's 'well we have 50 cores anyway haha who cares about offloading or conserving resources on primary pc'
@@felicityc A capture card or software capturing on the machine you are doing the demo on won't work until windows is booted up, all this happens in bios, so unless he was outputting the video to a 2nd dedicated pc with its own capture card he couldn't get the video of the bios. A dedicated streaming pc just to handle video capture is pretty much useless these days though, this is the one niche case where it would be useful, for everything else you can just buy a ryzen cpu that has enough horsepower to do whatever you are trying to do and still have enough left over to handle the video capture at a very reasonable price, so building an entire 2nd pc just to do video capture doesn't make sense.
Would love a Ryzen oc video, but I loved this
@@coopercummings8370 realistically if you have a camera pointed to towards the screen works better unless you are an professional overclocked who wants to stream then yes it makes sense .
For little here nor there home setup nahhh .
Says guy with 15.000€ gaming cave setup.
I only clicked for 'unvolting' thought it was gonna unleash some mad performance
Yeah I saw this and thought "What is this voodoo magic that can run your CPU on zero power?"
Same
@@pkbeast Was about to bring a new level of RIP Gamers Nexus
@@cainc1673 Hahaha lol
@@pkbeast voltage=current*resistance, so obviously he hacked the physics engine irl to make his pc 0degrees Kelvin(-273.15 C) thus making the resistance 0 (or delta resistance/dR where the limit approaches 0, effectively making it so small it's ~0), the whole system into a superconductor, and now that current ~infinity with a voltage of dV lim->0. i knew he does liquid nitrogen but critically superfluid liquid helium-3 cooling to get to ~0.0025kelvin? nice (helium-4 achieves superfluidity way hotter; a nice and toasty 2.18K, or only -270.97 celcius!)
how was this not obvious? /s
Thanks Jay, I like these kind of videos, showing the steps on how to over click cpu, gpu, ram.
Also enjoy what ever video you decide to do. The content you make on this channel is awesome!! Thanks for all you do. 👍
here before he changed the title
What was it before
@@Thai.H "Unvolting" rather than undervolting
Thanks for this guide it was super helpful and comprehensive. I always had issue distinguishing which option does what in the voltage adjustment section. Managed to shave off 5-7C from each core playing around with the values.
"Time to sleep. It's 1:30 in the morning."
> upload
"OK, I guess not."
Looks like we live close
Earth is so small
What country are you in? Here in Brazil is 2PM
It's 3:09 AM here in Egypt
I really wanna click on that timestamp but then I'll lose where I am on the video..
Edit: couldn't help it
thanks for taking the time to make this video, i know very little about this stuff and it gave me a good introductory understanding. granted i am still incapable of this type of tweaking yet but it did break the ice to start on the path
Thanks @JayzTwoCents! - Great video to explain the how undervolting can work on certain CPUs and what are the gains from there. Keep the videos coming :)
Thanks Jay for a masterclass in undervolting/over clocking :)
Hey Jayz really good video! I’ve got a question that I hope you can ask.. the level of adjustment you made is just perfect, balancing the voltage and freq. However, I think another crucial factor here is the room temperature that you did not mention. I mean if you make this tuning during winter, when summer arrives, you could see some crashes when you push your pc, due to the possible 15-20 C difference in the room temps. Same if you tune your pc in summer time, 6 months later you would be able to push your PC harder with the same temps. Did you think about that? Thanks and good job man!
Jay when you make actual guides they're among some of the best on CZcams. Bookmarking this vid for sure.
Mega awesome video Jay! I love how you go through everything and explain also. This is very good for learning how to overclock. :D
Remember when it was "haha AMD hot"
Oh how the turns have table.
And it's gonna get even worse for Intel with their up and coming 10th gen desktop parts, that 10 core will nearly be competing with some gpus in terms of wattage it'll consume & it'll be running like a toaster even at stock so good luck overclocking it lol
@@ToobeyAmbi Hol up
Well, considering that AMDs new architecture at that time, despite the manufacturing node being compareable, were no were near close to competing, and Intel with 14nm still manages to do that?
Yeah - AMD deserved it.
@@ToobeyAmbi "How the turntables" *
Always enjoy these videos, I'm very hesitant to mess with my voltages as its foreign to me and I'm afraid to destroy my components.
Great tips Jay and also in the comments. Just to add, you may also find it perfectly stable when running a load but after periods of being idle it freezes. You can try changing the Load Line Calibration setting to see if it helps but otherwise back the undervolt off another step.
THANK YOU! Finally, just the guide I've been waiting for! Now I'll just have to watch it one more time to fully understand how to do it. Cheers!
I find lowering voltage more rewarding then overclocking!
and obviously you get then a better overclock afterwards too. so win-win ;D
This is why I subscribed to Jayz' channel. Great content that's different from other hardware channels. A wealth of information in this video that's worth several viewings. Awesome.
Very informative, now I need the courage to do it on my rig, thank you Jay!!!!
I honestly didn’t think your quarantine videos would be worth watching, but I learned A LOT from this single video. 🥳
Thank you! Finally got my 14 core to 4.8 with this guide. (Non AVX) Temps around 85ish!
Jay, I enjoyed this video and your work a lot dude. I enjoy playing around with these settings myself and getting massive jumps in performance. Then going for lower temperatures is balancing act that I enjoy. Stay safe and quarantined. See you in studio hopefully in two or three weeks.
Great video Jay, I appreciate the work you put into this. Thank you.
Great video, under less than desirable conditions, but you still manage to keep it very engaging!
I'm really glad you did this tutorial Jay! I can't wait to give it a try after finals :)
Take care!
Wow finals I wish mine were conducter right now as they were supposed to be over last month but lockdown
Another thing to remember is the performance in relation to temps. I can get my 6600k to 4.6 with a Max temp of like 74 under full load, but dropping to 4.5 allows a voltage of 1.325 vs 1.375 and drops temps by roughly 10 degrees
Wait what? Can you explaine?, lower clock but higher voltage will have cooler temperature?
@@ameserich I believe they meant they went from a setup of: (4.6 clock and 1.375 volts, resulting in 74 degrees),
to a setup of (4.5 clock and 1.325 volts, resulting in ~64 degrees {this being the 10 degree drop in temp}).
So 0.1 clock drop, allowing for a .05 voltage drop, resulting in a 10 degree temp drop.
Thanks! For the lesson on tuning. Your videos are both educational and entertaining making your channel one of my goto computer channels on CZcams. Keep up the good work,
great video. most ppl talk about overclocking and raising the voltage but getting more performance and less thermal output is real nice.
From what I understand, the VID is the voltage the cpu is asking the motherboard for, not a measurement
I would love to see you do this with an AMD r9. I'm still at a loss as to what the danger temp in with my 3950x
you can hit 90 before it's actively destroying itself but in general you want it to stay below 80ish under load for long life
Awesome information and walkthrough, can’t wait to try this out later!
I don't know much about overclocking but, this is a really good guide to some of the settings. Thanks! You helped explain a bunch of things to me!
21:41 - The UEFI is a mini OS and is causing the problems that you're troubleshooting by power cycling
Hmm
I wish I could unvolt my cpu, it would give my house power.
If i undervolt my smartphone cpu would start generating energu
@@marcosross8670 thermodynamics says......NO
Lol I noticed my lights fluctuate when I do folding at home, old ass house lol
@@alsmith1775 well sir is there a fuse that you could change or trip in case of you know what magic smoke .
@@tanmaypanadi1414 yea, I think it's an old breaker had to replace one already
This may be an old vid, but it's still really useful. Thank you for taking the time.
Thank you very much Jay I feel much more confident now about how to over clock after that video. Greatly appreciated good sir.
Thanks so much for this tutorial Jay! I struggled to keep my 7980XE temps under control when I last tried overclocking it. Now I have a stable 4.5GHz at 1.190V and staying under 90C!
Is below 90c good? Like around 78 hitting 80 something, is it bad?
@@Kiro_I0 No its fine
@@white9093 yeah, ik. thanks for letting me know tho. After all these months I’ve been troubleshooting a lot and learning more about PC every now and a while. I ended up OC 4.1hz my cpu around the time i sent that last comment and never had a problem. Temp always stays around 60c on idle with stock cooler so I’m good.
@@Kiro_I0 What's is your cpu if you don't mind me asking?
My cpu ( i7 12700k) sometimes spikes to 75c when playing Assasins creed origins, usually holds between 60 - 70c, is that ok or I should be worried?
I used to unvolt my cpus, until i got a an electric discharge on my knee.
"until I took an electric shock to the knee" - Skyrim player / PC enthusiast
I used to find these jokes funny............then I took an arrow in the knee ;-)
@@MrGorpm Osgood all the life
You adventurer you.😏
@@branm5459 *Snorts skooma*
Skyrim criminal/PC enthusiast.
Do you test your overclocks with any synthetic burn tests like prime95? Or just test it with the computers intended workload and see how it does?
Such a cool video and it gave me an interesting question: Which Windows power profile should one select for day to day usage? Does using Balance as opposed to High Performance negatively impact machine performance for things like gaming at all?
0 voltage, infinite amps!!!
0 Ohm.
@@happygimp0 resistance is futile.
Hi Jay, I know this video is old now but just wanted to say these kinds of practical, real-case scenario teaching videos are SUPER helpful and it would be great if you could do an updated one for the new 12900K chip with the latest BIOS. Just the basic steps to OCing, followed by the step-by-step process of how you would actually go about tweaking/testing the parameters like you did in this video.
If you're on a shared loop shouldn't you perform your load tests with the GPU enabled as that would add to the heat load of the loop? Or am I missing something here?
Very informative and relative to my issues Jay. Thanks for the video.
I thought VID was not actually voltage. It was just pre programmed tables. You have to go by vcore. I'm pretty sure VID isn't per core voltage.
Vid is what cpu asks for set by intel not what it gets
@@johnflynn6140 Exactly. Basically, it doesn't matter what it's showing, when overclocked.
@@itube8324 Well yes and no, when you OC your CPU, the VID rises as well, but it may not be enough and it crashes anyway in which case you can override it with a higher value, or if the VID is higher than necessary, you can undervolt it like what Jay did here.
me: omg, my hottest core is 1° hotter than the whole package, is my cooler installed properly?
Jay: 30 degree difference on idle, no big deal...
me: O_o
When playing with hardware with over a couple of years of experence that's normal since it's not how they are running their systems around the clock .
That's because its probably not delidded
@@Matpermad 9980XE is soldered...
@@darkchaosclanat and? You can still delid soldered IHS'
@@weavercs4014 Yes you can, but please explain me why it should make any sense?
Thanks Jay for the video. Going to try this out on mine Tuesday and see if I can get it up to where you got yours.
I just love this kind of uploads, thanks!
Jay. There is a common misconception about the VID and the VCORE. The VID is the voltage that the cpu is requesting, it doesn't represent the cpu voltage. In fact, that value is useless. The core voltage readout is called VCORE and it is a product of the VID and vdroop (both can be configured on overclockable motherboards). So you set 1.2v on the bios, the VID is 1.2 but actual vcore is different.
Other misconception is that any cpu can provide per-core voltage. Only CPUs with a fully integrated voltage regulator can do that. Usually it's only found on Intel haswell, all X99/X299 compatible CPUs and newer mobile parts. Those CPUs use something called VCCIN as voltage input.
On all other CPUs, the motherboard is only capable of providing one voltage (called vcore). If you have one core idling and one core at full load, both cores will receive 1.3v (for example). Exception: Deep C-States can disable vcore input per core but if you overclock and let C-States option on auto, C-States are disabled.
Use hwinfo64 (sensors only) for more accurate software readings because hwmonitor is not frequently updated
I know this comment is old, but got me curious. Do you work/worked at intel?
It is the first time I see someone mentioning FIVR, specially because it is only used in server hardware nowadays.
@@atata9 not really. I just used to do motherboard level repairs on my previous job (including servers) and I had to know things such as how VRMs work on each CPU architecture
you know you're early when the description has a typo "we all know you an get"
Don't forget the title
Didn't understand everything, but was an enjoyable educational experience! Great video Jay! (and Phil)
Thanks, Jay! Very educational. Very enjoyable.
Unvolting or UNDERvolting?
JokeRGBlazE Was gona right that
He dose this quite a few times
But we just brush it off and understand what he mean
Feelings and shitt
undervolting ?
This video is so informative. Still relevant in 2021. Using this video as a guide for OC'ing my 10700k to 4.9GHz and undervolting.
What voltage did you get?
I really enjoyed this video and it helps me feel more comfortable when tinkering with things. thank you!!
If you 'unvolt' a cpu, then change your mind, would that be 'revolting'?
Nice try but sorry it's was overvolting or stock voltage
I mean my 3950x got 10,073 at 4.2Ghz stable in cinebench... Highest temp was 73C... Maybe it's time to go amd?
For those kind of workloads, obviously yes, at least right now. For gaming it depends on what you play & if it heavily favours Intel or not.
Keep em’ coming Jay. Thanks again.
Excellent tutorial! Thanks for doing this.
Now I want to see an AMD version
AMD slows down the cpu automatically, instead of crashing. That's weird.
I believe AMD does not support undervolting for some reason
@@ambilijohn6846 it's pretty complicated since they have a chiplet design to make an interface for each ccx lvl Overclocking or undervolting as they don't have such precise controls or knowledge over these situations .
I'd be interested in a first gen Threadripper version. (probably because I'm running one...)
@@ambilijohn6846 It does if my negativ voltage offset on my 3700X counts as undervolting. :)
Might need to check the title.
Hey Jay do you use any sort of program or mixer (I do not see one) for your microphone or do you just use the mic directly plugged in? I like to add some eq/gate to my mic so I use VoiceMeter.
Thank you so much for this. Tinkering around with the voltages (even though the bios is completely different) fixed my throttling issues
"Unvolting"
"Learn the secrets of 0 TDP!"
@@erick4188 the secret is to power it off :D
Jay at it's best
lmao
zero point energy unlocked
Jay: -Typos-
The entire comments section:
Did you touch things like powerlimits, loadlinecalibration, overcurrenprotection and did you increased them (digipower settings)? i had to do an avx offset of 4-6 with my 10980xe to runn around 100°C
The information in this video seems to have helped my CPU (Ryzen 7 5800X) overheating issue. I've had it for six months, but the problem just started last week. I had not made any changes to the system in the BIOS, etc., but for some reason, it was overheating. Thank you, Jay!
Furmark + intelburntest (or the one that is now included with furmark) gives me the highest system power draw I've seen yet. I think that's a good test to include on top of the component focused tests.
Furmark is known to destroy graphics cards.
Furmark, Intelburntest, Prime95, FAH are more demanding than any game or other "normal" app and would likely not be stable at these performance settings. So, your usage should help you determine how fast you want to set your overclock.
Thank you for this video. I was pumping way more voltage into my 9900k than I needed.
Hey,how is your voltages now?
I'm running 1.295 @ 5.0/4.8 Avx . But if I run Cinebench,it will jump to 95° after 5 minutes.
Noctua Nh-U12A cooler here.
hey, jayz - Does a monitor like that allow itself to be configured into virtual multi-monitor?
Anyone else getting White Walker vibes from Jay today? Dat natural lighting in his house. Love you Jay!
Never thought I'd learn anything from J2C video. I know that high performance has a minimal cpu power set to 100% vs balanced 5%. But I could never imagine it has immediate effect on voltage. So all these years I wasted power... I guess it's a good thing it's mostly cold where I live.
2:40 it will boot. Windows brings up recovery automatically every 4th crash
Every 4th crash .... is it an exact statistic ?
@@tanmaypanadi1414 yeah, happens to every CPU
Loved the video. Thank you for the lesson 🙂
I don't know if you have made the video before but could you make a video explaining all the settings for overclocking more? Like what we would want to lower and what we would want to raise and what settings that don't need to be touched.
New tech slang incoming - Unvolting. Just like gravis cards 😁
Bryan from Tech Yes City likes that :)
Same I also thought of bryan
@@sanjeevkr.7330 Yeah, we all watch almost the same channels
He just needs a devolterization calibrator. 😁😅
Jokes on you, Gravis cards were a thing! As in Gravis Ultrasound.
damn, my 3950x on AIR, in an ITX CASE runs cooler and scores damn near the same on R20.
I typically never comment on CZcams videos but just wanna say how helpful this was. Thank you!!
Jay,
With 3000 series Ryzen, what's more important CPU Package Temp or Core Temps? I'm running the 3900x and CPU package temps are noticably higher than Core temps under load. This is my first AMD so not sure what I should be paying attention to more.
Thanks in advance!
made it but hey jay when is the next giveaway
ah yes, the art of unvolting
I appreciate the help J.. Using Firestrike as a reference.. and your tips for a guide.. ive taken my 7800X from 4.2 oc to 4.7 and come down 14c on overall temps.. and its very stable now.. thanks for everything !!!! :)
Kinda related, I have an EVGA laptop, core temps jump around really quick, I'm wondering if maybe the thermal compound is a bit suspect or would it just be a small thermal mass in the cooler?
Jay's webcam is not centered to his monitor.
why does this have to be a top comment
Is it triggering your OCD ? What a shame.
XD intel.... -5% performance per security update
do you change the load line calibration or just level it to auto? is so what level?
Jay, I really appreciated this video... But i have a question: how loud, in terms of dB, was Nebula during those stress tests? Can you trim that aspect too? Or just stick with the 100% fans? I mean... I play with headset so whatever, and for "office/browsing" kinda stuff i have (we have) powersaving... Lastly, so you now run Nebula on Balance, or switch it back to Performance? Thanks in advantage if you will ever answer me, i love you and stay safe ❤️
I like to unvolt my gpu and cpu sometimes too. Mostly when I turn it off
The new slogan "Unvolting"
Excellent video Jay. I've been learning something new from your videos for years. 👍
That merch promo gets me every time