Why soldiers so often do nothing in battle
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In the heat of battle, many soldiers spend much of their time doing nothing, or nothing of use.
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A fascinating book from which much of the material for this video was taken is 'Brains and Bullets: How Psychology Wins Wars ' (also published as 'Wargames') by Leo Murray.
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I finally understand why my teammates rush B with me until they suddenly don't.
Yeah someone just threw a frag at B.
Yeah, many people have rat problems at home!
That’s why you must scream when rushing “run through fire” or “go through smoke”, otherwise they’ll act on their own
I always go c... Meds side. They are easier to pen.
@@lorenzooliveira1157 Yep, people listen to authoritative voices
My psychology teacher in school did a test where for 10 minutes he would ring a bell (every minute) and turn the lights off for a second after be rang the bell. The 10th time he rang the bell he did not turn off the light, but about 80% of the class reported that they "saw the lights go off for a second" even though the were still on.
Seeing what you expect is pretty incredible
Not seeing what you don't anticipate to see, even when it is intrusive, loud, and obvious, is also incredible. Selective attention. This is a big reason why motorcyclists get hit on roads far more often than other vehicles (they are far less common; when people change lanes, they glance for cars and trucks) and why something like 70% of people don't see the gorilla in the Invisible Gorilla experiment.
@@meatmachine144 To be honest, I think there are more prominent reasons why bikers get hit by cars more often. First of all, they are _way_ more likely to vanish in the blind angle of a rear view mirror.
Second, people underestimate how _fast_ a motorbike can accelerate. They are used to cars that are way heavier and often have much less engine power in comparison to weight, so they don't expect those things moving from A to B so fast. Hell, my old Golf weights about 1.2 tons and has way less than 100 horse powers. A BMW 1000 RR weights less than 200 kg with a full tank and has _212_ horse powers. That thing is a bloody catapult.
And third, let's be honest, many bikers, especially the young ones, are downright irresponsible. I am always in a bit of discomfort when I hear that "Brööööööööööööööööööh..." from a fast motorbike when I am on the Autobahn or a rural road, because in my experience, you can and will never do what the person on that bike might do. I've encountered more than one biker passing me on the atuobahn, on my left side, _while I was on the left lane and passing someone else already._ I had more than one biker squeezing himself through the 1.50 meter gap betwen me and the guard rail. And yes, I've also actually encounterd more than one biker squeezing himself through the gap between my car and a truck.
No, I am not trying to paint all bikers as irresponsible lunatics, but the repercussions of irresponsibility are usually much more grave when you are riding a bike.
How we know that the class wasn’t simply misremembering the event? Is there even a difference? Our brains are pretty good at subconsciously filling in the gaps in our knowledge, even with false information.
@@Furzkampfbomber In Phoenix, AZ in the sujmmer, daytime, excellent visibility. I was walking up a sidestreet towards a busy main road. I saw a big biker on a huge Harley stop and wait to make a left turn. Traffic was heavy, so he was there for a while.
I watched as a lady pulled up from the other side of the main road (and so facing me). She looked left, right, looked right at the bike, and hit the gas. Slammed right into him.
I hung around as a witness. Police showed up, she kept repeating what she'd said when she first got out of the car. Said the bike came out of nowhere.
I've seen this even more up close and personal, riding my 10 speed. Numerous times I'd be riding on the main road, someone would pull up a side road, look left, right, look right at me and hit the gas. So many times I was nearly hit and probably killed, but I was paying attention and barely got out of the way. Many would speed away. The few that stopped all said the same thing, that I came out of nowhere. Somehow, on a sunny day with little traffic, they did not see me because they are looking for cars.
I've had it happen when on foot, too. I look very closely at cars coming up sidestreets to see if they see me. I've had a number of times where I've ended up jumping on someone's hood to avoid getting run over me.
And I'd often see them look right at me before hitting the gas, then claim that I must have come running from behind a building.
@@katyungodly Isn't that the whole point?
“War is a bore, interrupted by moments of terror when men die.” - U.S. Army grunt in Vietnam
So,big news,war sucks
More at eleven
@@sapateirovalentin348 ''War, war never changes.''
@@yuancruz9038 War, War has changed!
@@alpha-1redrighthand829 war still sucks. war has not changed
@@jooot_6850 Now war is more comfortable. Weapons are less heavy and you don't have to walk all the way up to the enemy. You can even just lie around firing at them.
Military Commander: “Why are our troops doing nothing?”
Soldier: “because the guy playing civilization 6 IS FUCKING AFK”
hopefully there isn't an AI playing Gandhi...
@@CorvusCorone68 oh no gandhi will drop a nuke without hesitation that man is heartless
@@noaag Earrape ting ting music intensifies
Luckily it’s civ 6 and he isn’t bloodlusted anymore
@@someguy6627 ? he still is after modern era
For a moment there, I thought Lloyd *actually* heard a rat in his room.
It's British military bamboozling
@@FlamboyantInsomniac lol xD
Yeah me too i was like : ok lindybeige is so used to having rats doing their shit in his house he didn’t even stop the video
He did have a rat in his room. He just intuitively included it into his metaphor because he is God.
The snake caught it.
Commander: You are going to storm the enemy base. Got it?
Soldiers: OH SHIIIIIIT! A RAT!
Storm ? Annnorrrakkkkk
Boy if you are not moving your ass you will be killed like a rat right now. I'LL ask our aviation to bomb this position.
I'm guessing... this? czcams.com/video/oanpo_apS5Y/video.html
OPEN FIRE!!
I can't believe that meme is over a year old allready
I am a male and have memories of being a child, this guy is crazy smart
Whats that? Memories of being a child? I’m a guy so i don’t understand what you are saying?
@@e_y6672 Men are born fully formed as an adult. If you're truly a man you would've known this.
@@e_y6672 wtf do you mean, if you were a man you would know that men are born as an adult
@@e_y6672 you're getting trolled
I am a male and IT'S MA'AM!
Lindybeige is the only CZcamsr to make a 47 minute long video on men doing nothing, and make it interesting.
He should've only did it for 5 minutes then have "cognitive blanks"
75% of a soldier's time is basically him counting on his fingers, 20% of said time is dedicated to checking if they're still here and the 5 remaining percents are spent actually losing them.
@@vincenthagood349 75% + 5% + 20% = 100% ?
@@vincenthagood349 you wanna respond to this
Not really
@@vincenthagood349 what did you say on your first reply my guy?
@@jestfullgremblim8002 LOL
Lindybeige realized he needed to organize the paint tins but decided to do a 47 minute video instead.
47 minutes of fussing!
Well I mean it sounds like there's a big rat out there...
It's a long time to freeze for
@@j.kaimori3848
gawwwhhh!!! ......Hes role played all his life.
I thought he was going nuts for a moment then realised he was impersonating an adrenalin fueled soldier
Nah, he knows! I have it on mu todo list for nearly a year, and I am not even on the rat stage.
"Why do Soldiers do NOTHING?!"
Reasons-
Watching something.
Taking a break.
Thinking about not being there.
Thinking about home/family.
Waiting for someone or something.
Shamming.
Security.
Bored to tears.
Hating THAT guy.
Taking a personal moment.
BSing.
Aaaaaaannnnnnddd everything this guy just explained.
"Sham on privates, sham on" -Angry Cops
But seriously though. I wasn't in the military, I went to "military school". Your comment basically captures everything that goes through your mind when the yelling and push-ups stop.
The terrors of ptsd and painful anticipation welling up in your head while you hear willhem screams and such
Shamming is the most important time period
"Move it, private!"
"I can't, sir, the opening monologue is focused on me and it won't let me leave the crane shot!"
"Your rifle, is only a tool. It is a hard heart that kills. When your killer instincts, are not clean, and strong, you will HESITATE at the moment of truth. You will not kill..." - Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. That hesitation is the 'cognitive blink'.
Tbh its not hessitation its called an ooda loop nothing to do with morals(some do hesitate but ooda loops are different
My supervisor: What do you mean you were just sitting there for 45 minutes not doing anything?
Me: You see, this guy called Lloyd uploaded a video.
Supervisor: What video?
Me: A video explaining why people sit there doing nothing.
Best comment.
Well done, good sir
I don't think this applies in a shop lol
666 likes. Noice.
Woops, i've got a monthly review in about 5 minutes too.
On the muscle memory thing, my father once told a story of having to do fire drills on the commerce ship he was working on. When it came to the real deal, the one in charge ordered them to go look for the key to the cabinet where the extinguisher was kept, even though it says "break glass in case of emergency" right on top of it. Luckily, someone did snap out of habit and broke the glass anyway. During training, they had always unlocked the cabinet with the key, rather than breaking and replacing the glass pane with every exercise and so that's what they initially tried to do when the fire broke out.
This leads me to the question: Why is everything usefull in an emergency behind a glass pane? The glass isn't going to stop anyone from strealing it. And when there is an emergency the glass is an unnecessary nuisance, that will slow you down in best case scenario and injure you in the worst.
@@m0rtez713 A broken glass pane is an immediate signal that there is fire in the surroundings and should be acted upon as if so.
Yes that could be vandalism but that should always the 2nd thought.
@@Xorgye Wouldn't an open fire extinguisher cabinet indicate the same thing? Even if an open cabinet is too ordinary, I feel like there's a many smarter ways to signal abnormality than requiring glass to be broken
@@hey-zl4kh Im with you on that these glass panels aren't without its flaws.
However, the reasoning for glass panels is they act as a seal. You can't access the thing behind it without breaking the seal, and thus signalling the surroundings something happened.
Most of the times there are other automated signals attached to accessing the stuff behind the glass, and the broken glass indicates this specific detector set off the other automations.
For instance, I know firefighters in the Netherlands take automated messages from these 'hand' detectors with more priority because of how they work.
@Colin Cleveland Not to mention children: Even those are less likely to just break random stuff, rather than just stealing shit for fun.
“But imagine if, having trained for this war, another war starts with the Russians, for instance.” Thanks, Lindy.
And the thing about how soldiers who fought in Afghanistan and Iraq aren't prepared to be shelled turned out to be right as well.
When I was 7 or so, I was walking behind a truck with a couple friends, just as the backup beeper started. My friends jumped out of the way. I froze so badly, the driver, who'd seen us walk behind the truck or saw my friends yelling at me, got out and walked back to find me still frozen. He yelled at me to move out of the way. I could not move.
He had to physically move me. As soon as he started moving me, I could move again.
I hated that. I really felt completely helpless. I thought about it a LOT. I have spent a lot of time thinking about how to respond to different situations. I think that is why now I am the one who keeps moving when others around me freeze.
this is top tier character development
@@cloudhazard2860 the "move out of the truck's way" story arc
the “frozen behind a reversing truck” incident
You almost got isekai’d
Honestly the statement should be fight, flight, or freeze. Everyone freezes for a moment, but sometimes and some people can't help but remain frozen in stressful situations, and honestly according to the video thats alot of people.
* hand to hand combat rages across the battlefield *
Random officer: look at Hans over there that madlad is still digging the trench!
Hans get awarded the silver cross for obeying orders to a t.
Because his commander never gave the order to engage.
Oh Hans. Why is it always you?
@@PaulTheSkeptic not a nuclear one
Random officer freezes on the battlefield and looks at Hans
@@eedragonr1576 i dont understand this response "not a nuclear one" is this a joke can you explain
If I move from cover I might get shot.
*move soldier!*
"no... I don't think I will."
OH NO! I CAN'T ESCAPE THE MEMES!
No u
i cant help it. it's too easy. EVERY INCH OF THIS BEACH HAS BEEN PRE-SIGHTED! YOU STAY HERE, YOU'RE A DEAD MAN!
With all the modern content creators making 7 cuts in one sentence it's such a joy to see you go for a straight hour monologue presentation with next to no cuts. What a legend
Being a serial fusser, this struck a chord. Neatly arranged grenades are good for the morale.
hh good point.
Stories from Iraq;
Squad that was trained to call for air strikes hesitated when facing a machine gun nest. They didn't want to bother the air force or such.
Another group hesitated to use their anti-tank missiles against firing enemy tanks because they were horribly expensive.
Would a soldier be punished for firing a rocket or say any expensive piece of ordinance and not actually hitting the target?
@@silvesby Not to my knowledge.
@Marry Christmas I believe that it was a Javelin. The first one blew up an APC. The sergeant's reaction: "You have any more of those things?" They went through about a dozen and a half of them.
Now see, if they had the guys specializing in the expensive stuff also communicating with the weapons-design -nutters- engineers, "too expensive" would be the answer for why they tested everything while deployed, and nothing at home...
Budget is an appropriate concern for middle management, not for boots on the ground.
Obviously as a German person my taxes at most lead to better pictures and coffee at drone realay Stations.
One eyed Simon still remembers the day he cut in on the lunch line.
I do, and I still think you overreacted, mate ;(
LOL.
@@tyrroo Oh, you, too? ,-
Little did he knew, he cut in front of young John Wick.
Re: changing orders: "A plan is only good until contact with the enemy." This is also why the fragmentary/warning orders exist: a good plan executed late is worse than a mediocre plan executed early.
Here’s my brilliant plan:
“Take cover and shoot the guys who aren’t dressed like us(civilians not included)”
Brilliant, aren’t I?
@@jooot_6850 thats only slightly ignorant
"everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face" seems to be more universal than I thought
Battle Plans are seldom effective for longer than 24 hours.
I have personally witnessed something like this when I was in Ukraine when my fire team conducted an "ambush" on a Ukrainian platoon. Our NCO who was with them told them their officers and NCOs were dead and the privates just sat there not knowing what to do
"Banzai?"
"Yes Private, Banzai"
Isn't the sole purpose of a private to follow orders? So if the nco and officer are dead, of course a private would not know what to do
@@darkjak224 privates should learn how to do the job of a fire team leader and a squad leader at least because in combat you never know who will get hit or killed so you need to know the job so you can step up and take charge if needed
@@darkjak224 America does it weird with a full on chain of command specificly to break this sort of nonsense. Which is part of why americans are so bad at following their own doctrine, and never read their own manuals.
@@animorph17 Okay Randal.
"He's just standing there... MENACINGLY!!!"
Having spent 24 years in the Canadian Army I only too well know the phrase "Hurry up and wait" " On the APC or off the APC" or "Prepare to move in 10" and waited a half hour while senior NCOs and officers milled about like cattle trying to think about what to do next.
Don't forget "nothing's too good for the troops, and that's exactly what they'll get"!
Not that left, the other left.
Sargent Major! March the guilty bastard in, 90 days without a doubt. Sargent Major! March him out.
There's a million of them!!!🤣😂
Stand by to stand by!
Thank you for your service
Question I don't know if Canada was in a war war past 24 years but were you ever in combat?
@@emperorenvi8814 obviously you don't know Canada was in Afghanistan! And no as a reservist I was never called up!
"What color was the snake's tongue?"
Me, who is colorblind: My life couldn't prepare me for this.
Green
Blue
@@Todija It was green..
When you get diagnosed with sex addiction because you said the handkerchief was white
To Loyd @ Lindybeige
You have no idea of how helpful this has been in helping me in understanding an error I made recently as a nurse and coming to terms with it as both a professional and as a person
Thank you so much .
Hey man how's the journey?
That awkward moment when you realize that this is how you react to every slightly stressful situation.
God same
Cannot relate
@@ReynardFuchsmann got a badass in here
@@ReynardFuchsmann you must have balls of steel
I thought it was because I was a pussy or something. This feels better
I was also wondering why everyone went afk once the comander said we needed to charge the enemy base
david grfenix Rising storm :D
lol
when your troops level 50 and your enemy level 99
And then every afk teammate was replaced by a easy bot.
@@rachelslur8729 The for honor experience
I've worked with a SWAT team before, and its amazing how they train out this cognitive blink. They call it target acquisition. The drill is basically they will have a number of colored balloons, maybe 6 different colors and 15 balloons. They will take all the balloons on a bus (or wherever they are training), and tape them around head height. Sometimes they will even tape a balloon on the shoulder of an actor. The as the SWAT team are rolling up in their APC, or sometimes even moments before getting on the bus, the team leader will radio them what color balloon is the "bad guy." In this scenario they are instructed to use lethal force from the start. The SWAT guys do their thing and board the bus, while INSTANTLY shooting all of the bad guy balloons with literally no hesitation. To make sure they also get human targets, an actor will randomly be selected to be a bad guy as well, and that actor gets some padding and a huge face shield because the sim rounds hurt lol.
My point being, these guys basically train like this constantly, and they really do train out any hesitation whatsoever before they shoot. I could see the newer guys were a bit slower too, especially when it can to lighting up an actor. and sometimes actors were given the extra gear without being a bad guy too, so the team couldn't just keep that actor covered in particular. Its also conforting to know that if i'm ever held hostage and the bad guy puts his arm around my neck to hold me, the SWAT team will just instantly shoot him in the face the moment they see him. And they don't miss. They ran that drill over and over and over and never a single time did any of the guys miss any balloons, or hit the wrong target. The only missed a target once or twice
Very interesting, thanks!
this, thank you. i wrote a long ass paragraph rebutting some dude who said "thats the problem with drills" and told a story about there actually being a fire and people wasting time looking for the key to unlock the fire extinguisher behind the "break in case of emergency" glass cause thats what they always did in the drills lmao. drills are INCREDIBLY powerful at training humans to do crazy amazing things, they just have to be done correctly, ie actually doing what you plan on/needing to do in the scenario being drilled for.
"To be in the presence of a dangerous predator is very dangerous."
Much learning being learned
That's why as corpsmen we were drilled again and again and again on 2 maxims.
1 - The best battlefield medicine is fire superiority
2 - Recover the patient to safe cover
"Where angels, and, Marines fear to tread, it's there you'll find a Corpsman dead."
Bullshit, the best battlefield medicine is ibuprofen, water, and a pair of clean socks
i thought the best battlefield medicine was an airstrike
@@dogdriver70 I love the smell of napalm in the morning....
@@dogdriver70 airstrikes are sweet
Telling the men to stop fussing and get on with it.
Yup, he's English.
BREXIT: stop fussing and finish the war games.
all they need is a passionate speech like: put your shit together and get on with dying.
@SharkTank so, they are fucking you?
Spicy.
@SharkTank salty boi
The "fussing" can be also observed in video games players... I can't give an example but I KNOW that I've experienced that, probably in some kind of competetive multiplayer game
Check out Foxhole (on steam). 1 hour plus where commander assembles forces. 1-2 hours forces waiting for orders. 30 min actual combat. Seems realistic in that sense.
In battlefield 5 you can dig trenches, I died many time for a enemy while I was digging for cover ☺️
I can definitely see this, I play rust occasionally which is a very stressful life or death kind of game, and I tend to sit around inside of my base doing basically nothing instead of going outside to progress where it's dangerous.
A good example would be when you're playing a battle royale style game and spend all your time collecting an excessive amount of resources, when a better use of your time strategically would be to go find other players. I know I do that all the time lol, and usually end up not even noticing when someone comes behind me because hey, a rare gun!!
I'm a newly qualified nurse working in a very busy receiving ward during a worldwide pandemic. This talk is actually really helpful in evaluating ways that I have responded to stress and medical emergencies.
“I fear no man..”
“But that thing..”
*rat*
“It scares me.”
lol
Hey, rats can be quite vicious and their bites are highly infectious and can actually kill you by infection. And a rat bite itself is a very nasty thing.
Halo 3 rat
@@Adomas_B bro, I wish I had the body of the HALO 3 rat.
@@unwillfullyignorant7805 Like in 'I wish I would look like that rat' or more like 'I wish I had it's corpse'?
Lindybeige: "A member of a species rarely kills another member of the same species"
Humans: *Laughs in homo sapien*
we find inventive easy ways to kill everyone, nukes bombs and gas, press of a button, no conscience lost.
@Feldgrau Fox conflict ≠ killing, chief.
Feldgrau Fox Lol “PAL”, you’re saying a lot, but why?
I just said the obvious truth that conflict does not equal killing. Killing doesn’t even necessarily mean conflict either, although most of the time it includes it.
@@PaulMab9 And he just explained why you are wrong
Niko how so? I made a very simple statement, precisely to avoid saying something that could be wrong.
Two different things, are different things. That’s the essence of what I said. A short statement to express a very particular idea.
I made neither comment nor implication on the veracity of ANYONE else’s statements, nor will I.
Well, except for yours, just now.
Because of course you ARE incorrect.
The other fellow couldn’t have proven me wrong. For one simple reason, the comment he made in reply had little to do with the veracity of MY statements.
Conflict ≠ killing.
A statement on the nature of words, intended to perhaps incite consideration on that topic. Nothing more.
These words, as I have used them, are separate concepts. Related as they may be. And I made no claims otherwise.
Perhaps there is some other usage of these words with which I WOULD be incorrect, but not as I have used them.
*Edit:*
Am I too verbose? I think so. Am I being a pedant? Absolutely, and intentionally.
Is this a bother? Probably.
But am I wrong? No.
And it bothers me that you say so.
In Phoenix, AZ in the summer, daytime, excellent visibility. I was walking up a sidestreet towards a busy main road. I saw a big biker on a huge Harley stop and wait to make a left turn. Traffic was heavy, so he was there for a while.
I watched as a lady pulled up from the other side of the main road (and so facing me). She looked left, right, looked right at the bike, and hit the gas. Slammed right into him.
I hung around as a witness. Police showed up, she kept repeating what she'd said when she first got out of the car. Said the bike came out of nowhere.
I've seen this even more up close and personal, riding my 10 speed. Numerous times I'd be riding on the main road, someone would pull up a side road, look left, right, look right at me and hit the gas. So many times I was nearly hit and probably killed, but I was paying attention and barely got out of the way. Many would speed away. The few that stopped all said the same thing, that I came out of nowhere. Somehow, on a sunny day with little traffic, they did not see me because they are looking for cars.
I've had it happen when on foot, too. I look very closely at cars coming up sidestreets to see if they see me. I've had a number of times where I've ended up jumping on someone's hood to avoid getting run over.
And I'd often see them look right at me before hitting the gas, then claim that I must have come running from behind a building.
The maverick thing reminds me of the story of the Aquilifer at Julius Caesars invasion of Britain, the soldiers were reluctant to hop off because the britons were throwing missiles, so the aquilifer (Eagle bearer) yelled for them to follow me and jumped off the ship.
An extended 47 minutes of why squaddies do nothing. It's marvelous.
It's like an extended History Guy. Or perhaps Nicolas plans 10 minutes, but it ends up nearer an hour
@@tedferkin or History Oversimplified, except it's the exact opposite.
Or a shortened version of the audio book of Leo Murrays "Brains & Bullets" aka "War Games: The Psychology of War" which is basically where all the content came from. Freezing and Fussing are Murray's terms for the "inactive" activities soldiers perform in combat (Fleeing and Fighting being the active ones).
Basically all the anecdotes are from Murray's book too.
@@cdgonepotatoes4219 He should rename channel, "Historic story time, with generous digression...Beige".
The multi-loaded muskets blows my mind. That's so interesting, it makes perfect sense, but who would have expected that?
It's also a load of bull. The sources have been discredited by numerous other historians; On Killing is not as enlightened as it makes itself out to be. From Wikipedia:
Robert Engen, in a paper for the Canadian Military Journal critiquing On Killing, both praised and criticized Grossman's works, saying: "On Killing and On Combat form an excellent starting point, there are too many problems with their interpretation for them to be considered the final word on the subject."[1] Grossman's response to Engen, printed in the same journal, addresses the criticisms by showing that S.L.A. Marshall's findings, even after having doubt cast on their methodology, have borne out in further scientific studies and real world experience, and furthermore, have been the cornerstone of military and police training for over a half century.[3]
@@ericklauridsen9353 just a question though, is the theory "a load of bull", or where there not multi-loaded muskets found in battle? Because that's what blew my mind the most.
@@MadHashashin The multiple filled guns are true. Most of On Killings theory about non-shooters and such is bull.
Purely cowardice.
@@ericklauridsen9353 What you just quoted doesn't say anything at all other than "On killing is not perfect"
They're called Simunition. They hurt like a mother. You will only flub about and get hit ONCE max, then you'll know why you need to take the training deadly seriously.
Freezing when faced by a predator is often the smartest thing to do. Most predators have a strong impulse to chase anything that runs from them, It's basically a clear sign of fear in the prey. If you stand your ground you can sow the seed of doubt in the mind of the predator. This also play an important role within species social interactions. However in family group species the tribe comes first so many members will wait to see the majority reaction. You cannot have a group of leaders.
not only that, but staying still makes it harder to see you
just because you see a predator dosnt mean he sees you yet
Prince Edmund: I mean, everything seems to be going very well, doesn’t it? Everyone’s fighting - clearly having the time of their lives.
Wait a moment; some of them over there aren’t fighting! They’re…
they’re just lying down!
Baldrick: They’re dead, My Lord.
Cunning plan....
As cunning as a fox who's just been made professor of cunning at Oxford?
@@badams2025 😂😂😂
Didnt Wellington do the same at Waterloo, ask "what is that unit still laying in cover" only to discover it was just the dead bodies still lying where the artillery had killed a bunch?
@@badams2025 Better yet, a most cunning plan by the product of a pig herder meeting a milk maid.
As a former infantryman I can tell you that many soldiers prefer to do nothing (goldbrick) until made to move. This is why butt-kicking sargents are the backbone of all armies,
Indeed, I was one of those ass kicking sergeants back in the 1970's, got rather good at it as well, but then I was assigned recruiting duty, that was indeed my downfall as I could not lie good enough to entice young men who were set to get the million dollar farm in a few years to give a few years to their country, while the meat grinder in Vietnam was still going strong. I took my discharge rather then to remain in the job, and joined, in stead the police department, at a substantial cut in pay.
Jerry Ericsson You’ve got to do something you believe in. If what you’re doing seems useless, it’s hard to keep going.
Jerry Ericsson thank you For your Service and your honesty while recruiting by doing so you took the best and might have saved those that decided not to go.
AnTiDotE X
"Never been in combat " ?
Sure everyone on CZcams has been in combat !!!
In fact the most experienced veterans are on CZcams.
You can tell they are genuine by how they hint they were in combat but then refuse to talk about it because no one else would understand, and they have PTSD, similar to Jason Bored.
The REAL giveaway that they are genuine veterans is the ENORMOUS amount of helmet cam footage in their playlist , and corresponding XBoX games.
A REAL veteran will say ;
"What do you know about Vietnam? Youve never even BEEEEN to America.
We didnt lose the war, the Hippys did "
Jerry Ericsson Thank you for your service, and although you’re making less money, hopefully you at least like being a police officer more than a recruiter.
I do enjoy your videos, they are so real and accurate. I hope those who have never been in battle pay attention. I recall a time in 1971 in Vietnam. I was a communicator, it was my mission to keep the rear area advised on the progress of a mission into enemy territory in an attempt to slow down the infiltration of arms and men into the area from the North. We came under ground attack of our small firebase located near the border where the attacks were aimed. I ended up in a bunker on the parameter, now I was a farm boy, I grew up with a rifle in my hands. My cousins and I used to practice with our .22's lighting farmers matches at a distance where only the red was visible, and we got quite good at that. The 5.56 ammo that we had in the M-16 was, in fact a very fast .22. The rifle had no recoil and was very accurate if you knew how to use it. In the same bunker was a member of the infantry unit that was supposed to be keeping our little base secure, attacking were some damn good soldiers out of North Vietnam, regulars, not the VC that we were used to seeing. There were three soldiers running full on toward our area of the fence, which had been blown down by rocket fire earlier in the day. The infantry man beside me had his rifle on full auto, and was trying to hit those enemy soldiers. I looked out the slit in our bunker and saw his ammo hitting the ground some 6 feet in front of our bunker. So for some reason I still had my head about me, I took quick aim, much like I had when I was a boy with my .22, and killed the three enemy. When things had settled down, the infantry man who was with me was jumping up and down proclaiming himself the "king of the bunker!" claiming 3 kills. Personally I didn't give a shit about counts, and let him go with his claim to fame. I was just happy to have survived the attack, and to get back to my radio teletype rig and some peace and quiet.
My dad was a company commander in Vietnam and he said the lieutenants and platoon sergeants did most of the fighting while the privates mostly provided cover fire.
I saw the snake, but I’m more hung up on the fact that the “orange” circles looked yellow to me.
Same here, but knew the concept.
@@wobblysauce They're yellow.
Are you sure about that Yanny?
@@wobblysauce Yes.
they look kind of like a dark yellow
"The worst thing you can do about something , is tell an officer about it."
There is a really warped logic in the military.
as an Officer, we’re compelled to do something about it if we know.
If something is happening (Soldiers snuck beer out to a field exercise and you’re about to walk in on them drinking), the correct thing is for the ranking Sergeant to jump up and say “Sir, didn’t you say you had some Officer stuff to take care of in the HQ right now?”
@@JP-wk7cc and why is that?
Cause the guy doesn't want to give the drinking guys trouble and doesn't mind they are doing it, but as an officer has an obligation to stop them if he sees them doing it. This is from interpreting what he said cause he hasn't responded to you :)
Emery KJ yes exactly. It avoids putting the Officer in a position where he has to discipline the Soldiers for something everyone can agree is dumb.It’s paperwork and a headache for the Officer, and could result in the Soldiers losing rank (earn less money) or straight up having to forfeit a paycheck. Both put strain on the Soldier and his/her family, again for something that’s really not that big of a deal.
Plus if a SGT catches them its more then likely a good session of PT and not taking their pay
Lindybeige has me hooked. I love history. Being a Homeboy from L.A., I often think how it would playout if Lindy was a L.A. gang member explaining his experiences and war stories. Planning a driveby and looking for those other "chaps". Shooting projectiles from their conveyance.
*holding uzi's at the window*
"Move Trinity, move!"
... *shaking with anticipation.*
...
Gets up and runs.
Exactly, excellently pointed out. I'd like to add that the reason she was able to make herself do that was because she had been 'freed', overcoming her 'programming'. Whoa.
i had this moment when i was about 13, i saw everyone staring at this bum passed out or something in the middle of the road as cars pass right past him,.i look at him, i look at the people around me, none was moving, stand around for a few more seconds until i decide to try and help, i take a few steps and multiple people rush past me to help him. i see he'l get help so i do a 180 and carry on with my day.
Smooth as butter
I was in a supermarket one day. I was standing at customer service, talking to a clerk, when an old lady suddenly called for help. Everyone pretended not to see or hear her -- until I took a few steps in her direction. Then, suddenly, everyone rushed towards her to help.
(BTW, she didn't have a serious problem: Recently a device had been installed in her chest in order to stimulate her heart whenever it began to beat irregularly. The device had started to adjust her heartbeat, and the novel sensation frightened her.)
These are more examples of social anxiety issues we have to deal with. If you get involved you will have to sacrifice time energy/whatever and also take responsibility for taking action (when things could very well have been just fine and they didn't want your input thank you very much)
By taking action yourself, it compels others around you that FAILING to act is itself an act they will need to take responsibility for, and it drags them in.
Or it's a bit of the eagle flying around, the birds in the trees first stop singing, then when one bird decides it wants to fly away from the eagle, suddenly the entire group takes off at the same time.
I remember reading about Gettysburg muskets with multiple loads in them, I know that the U.S Army did a study on that and they came to the conclusion that it was simply due to the fact that people were trained on circular targets and did not want to kill subconsciously.They vividly remember pulling the trigger and firing, but as it turns out they did not. I know that the soldiers the interviewed spoke of this years later about how they almost blew their shoulder/face off from recoil or explosions.I also know some of them who survived the battle while cleaning and maintaining their muskets, realized what they did. This led to the U.S Army switching to human shaped silhouettes to get soldiers used to shooting at similar shaped silhouettes in real battle. Ill edit this as soon as i can find this article. Its pretty dated.
The same phenomenon was noted during the Napoleonic wars. Ammunition and gunpowder were expensive, so not to be wasted on training. It was common for new recruits in large conscript armies to arrive on a battlefield having never actually fired their muskets.
Actually I've read that it was due to poor training. The men didn't even know if their gun had fired and if it wasn't firing because of some malfunction they'd try reloading occasionally.
Hand cannon grenade musket
Grenade launcher that's meant to break enemy ranks 1200s.
I would like a whole army of grenade launchers in the civil war time that would be explosions everywhere and lines of explosions
You have a similar phenomenon in riots. It depends on each persons threshold for freaking out. There might be one maverick who will be the first one to throw a brick or Molotov, but there might also be ten people who will throw bricks if one other person. Then there are those with a threshold of 10, 20, 30. By the time you get to 100 people rioting, even your grandmother would join in because everyone has a threshold below 100.
I think one form of freezing up that i encounter everyday is when a light turns green at a traffic light. Often times people will hesitate for a few seconds if nobody else moves but as soon as one car starts to go everybody else realizes it’s safe and snaps back into reality. It’s interesting because I’ve been in both mindsets I’ve had times where I just wait for another car to go and then afterwards wonder why I hesitated despite it being safe but then I’ve had many times where I check to see it’s safe and confirm the lights green and start to go and wonder why everyone else didn’t start to drive before me then oftentimes the cars that hesitated will almost speed past me as if they realized their supposed to go now and wanted to catch up.
You ever stop to think how if we were all trained to just slowly lift off the brake the moment we saw the green light, we'd get several more cars through before it turned red?
Lindybeige i love how you focus more on psychology now it’s great. I love history and stories but psychological observations or phenomena are as interesting and that knowledge is applicable in real life, that’s cool
You mean to tell me that the battle formations of the ancient Romans are not applicable in daily life?
@@deus_ex_machina_ No dear Cathy Newman, that is not what alexis Julliard said.
Deus Ex Machina of course i apply roman battle tactics in everyday life!! Who wouldn’t ?? I love to soften my enemies with pillum then send in my first line of infantry while my cavalry is getting the shit beaten out of itself by other cavalry.
Another technique i use with my subordinates in the office os that of decimation. One guy fails to do his work, one out of every ten guys is beaten to death by his fellow soldiers. Works really well to give people z the incentive to do the F***** work!!!
Explains the mass shootings
“So you can autopilot your breathing”. My lungs-fuck off, do it yourself now.
That's a health issue, you would forget to breath in your sleep
I felt real smart when i noticed the snake and im now disappointed that i didnt see the tongue colour :(
Its kind of amazing how captivating your are sir.
A man stands in front of a camera with no tricks (save a ghost snake) and just talks. I don't feel without in the way of graphics, video demonstrations, animations. Its all just you talking, and I've been listening for years.
Thank you Lindybeige
You are in cover, you are safe, go away from that safety soldier!!! Gee i wonder why they do nothing.
Except you're not always in cover or safety
It's funny how that mentality is even present in games when there's no threat to you.
Can't tell you how many times I've played with people who run into a house/cover and just sit there and you literally have to tell them to keep moving or the enemy will surround us or throw in grenades.
@@derrickstorm6976 captain fucking obvious
@@beaconofwierd1883 especially in games like Post Scriptum.
@@TheDunestyler Basically in all fps team based games :P
Oddly specific examples of childhood violence.
I felt like being called out...
Seriously, someone tried to push me out of a window from the second floor and there was an incident with a pen causing a rather abstract tattoo...
Ayy lindy was givin them niggas the work at boarding school
Lucky7777 My boy boxing all dem squishies.
Common, haven't you have to fight in school? I had too, and my son had too. I'm not sure if boys can stop bulling each other, may be next generation.
Arman get the fuck outta here w this soft shit😭😭 bullying is great it builds tremendous character, I can tell you love to drink soy
8:55 interesting. i've actually experienced this. i was going to the subway and at the entrance there was a guy pulling on a woman's purse, people were watching and doing nothing. the moment i confronted the guy, suddenly loads of people started to close around and call security or a subway stations police. but she was a good 5-10 seconds asking for help and no one stepped forward
I really enjoyed how illustrative and captivating these explanations were. You have a great ability to hammer down the point and make sense of all these theories with examples!
So gratifying being called hard as nails by uncle Lindy
товарищ фабси Uncle Lloyd!
Man, that's a strange compliment from an Uncle.
I was going to skip the ad, but the man picked up a ukulele
So you froze?
Me too! My finger was ready to skip but I was stopped dead in my tracks
The art of war
This is pretty much the only channel, or any online place for that matter, where i actually watch the ads
"Hardly any paint in that one so you're gonn- oop"
Rat: ○_○
Speaking of psychology, this whole lecture is stressing me out.
You can see a 'cognitive blink' in Band of Brothers in an encounter with the red-haired US paratrooper and the German 'boy' soldier.
Len van Vliet The name you’re looking for is Lt Winters
ImNotMoose he was a Captain by that stage wasn’t he?
Yeah, solid 10 seconds of freeze (or so it seems but IRL it was a split second), then he shoots the guy and camera pans over to show that there’s an entire squad of Germans right there in easy view that Winters straightup didn’t notice for a second there.
yeah classic shot. Still in my mind.
That entire mini-series was just top notch.
Wait. Hold on... Is that wild looking man rambling?
Better watch it, might go on for 47 minutes.
Sometimes the ramblings are worth a watch.
@@manbunnmcfanypakjustacoolg4965 sometimes, but not this time.
This man needs to be an actor or one of the guys in the history documentaries that get incredibly passionate about the subject. I was actually worried about Denis, no lie.
your presentation style is so entertaining and explanations so simple and easy to grasp! Every video ive watched so far has taught me so so much! luv it!!
That's why commisars and other mad loyal commanders existed. That's why king charging forward was followed by his men because they knew what to do in that moment. They need to charge and this is the only thing hat matters.
professional armies spend an enormous amount of time and money on training infantrymen to have specific reactions to circumstances. eg: gunshot... hit the deck, determine the direction and distance, give a callout, attack.
run, down, crawl, observe, aim, fire.
15 years out of the service and i will never forget it
Your discussion of this is very informative, and useful to me. I now have a better understanding of some things that happened around me when I was in Vietnam. In particular, there was one night when my base had incoming heavy mortar fire starting about midnight. I have absolutely no memory of what happened the rest of the night, until a couple of hours after daylight the next day. I now see how that can be very possible. But I got through it, and apparently performed in a way that was acceptable to my officers.
Ah yes, the “...” option on the action/speech wheel.
This is why in emergency/military medicine you always make sure
"scene is safe" before treatment. Otherwise you've added casualties.
On the other hand that's how Americas are left to die in Afghanistan while German plains can take them to hospital or take pictures... Not that I want them to be anywhere near there, making coffe at Ramstein is sufficient use of my tax money.
@@fionafiona1146 What?
@@RGC-gn2nm good question. I don't have a clue either
@@comradeurod9805 They're just speaking absolute nonsense, I'm going to assume English isn't their first language.
@@fionafiona1146 tell us more
"Hurry up and wait"
The credo of every army throughout time.
Admiral Crunch is Gud
I wonder if there's some sayings, jokes or etc. in other armies, expressing the same idea as the following: we have a saying "In the Army everything should/must/may be hideous, but uniformly" (безобразно, но однообразно) meaning that uniformity should prevail over anything else. For example, if one person in the company has lost his gloves, all the company will stand without them on the platz (or alternatively, our batallion commander suggested the person painting their hands black not to disrupt the uniformity)
Laughs in Mongol
@@alexeysaranchev6118 . That idea is carried to extreme measures,and rightly so.
We packed everything in a uniform manner. Starting with our rucksacks .it would be packed identical to everyone to to point that if Private Smith was leaving the tent for a minute you could ask him to get a pair of socks from your pack( since it's lined up outside in the established order of march),he would know exactly where your socks are since all rucksacks are packed identical to everyone's.
Commonality is next to Godliness!!😁👍
@@barryfirth1187 Actually a great and useful idea!
This is literally Csgo when you hear a scope click
This is probably not very acceptable thing to say, but, when it's over and that perfect clarity remains for a short period of time afterwards, it's really beautiful. It's like seeing a world for the first time, everything is brighter and colours are so vibrant and everything is so crisp and clear. Part of the feeling is, probably, also that it's over and you are not dead and you can feel your hearth pounding in your throat and they are gone and you are safe again, but it's one of the best feelings I ever felt and I tried to replicate it by cliff diving, bungee jumping, bungee catapulting and motorcycling and never could. Do not get me wrong, I wouldn't want to live through another round of entire experience, I had more then enough, but I miss that feeling.
try hallucinogens
@@thenapdoreast4633 Incomparable...
For a second I actually thought there was a rat in Lloyd's apartment.
Mid video- "Is that a rat?"
Same here thought he saw one and was like nah fuck it i’ll just continue shooting the vid
alexis Juillard what a legend
It was you! I remember that pencil! Won't catch me blindsided this time, Lindy!
I suppose he'll catch you blind instead.
He's name is Lloyd lol
Don't hurt my Grandson
@@bnlhu
Most people here know his name is Lloyd, but many still refer to him by Lindy due to his channel's name.
So, just let it slide.
Very much enjoy this unedited format. Being able to just flow through the topics like this is what sets aside this man as a teacher rather than a youtuber. You can tell he knows his stuff and didn't just google it right before making the video.
Great video! being a serving soldier, this explains a lot and I can relate to how you describe conditions of a soldier in the field. Really informative.
"what color was the snakes"
Me: EIGHT IT WAS EIGHT TIMES wait what the hell
It was nine times. And it was a greenish brown. But the heck, I had bet there was no tongue and if there was one it was bright red.
The brain mixes colours all the time, especially the opposit colour. Black goes white, green goes red, etc. etc. This is a strange habit of our brain.
@@Seelenschmiede The next battle you lead. I will join another platoon!
It was also 11 times and there was no snake!
@@Seelenschmiede I got 10 but i think i missed 1
THE COLOR ITS TEN! TEEEENN!!!! oh god there was a snake?
So I had this video in the background and when I looked over at the screen, all I could look at was the snake. Yes, I noticed the circles, but I wasn't paying attention, to I don't know what was up with them, or what you guys are talking about.
I love how a lot of this can be seen in daily life, just in less intense measures.
Yeah, this explains so much about what I experience with my horrible anxiety every day.
Love the personality and presentation style. Subscribed
This is why I love this channel he talks about the real gloom and darkness, reality of war , our weaknesses
A couple days ago, my mom pushed the button to lower the garage door. She had forgotten to close the tailgate on her new car, and the lowering garage door collided with the tailgate of the car and left a big scratch in the paint before it stopped and lifted itself back up.
My mom saw the collision about to take place, new what was going to happen, had her finger still on the button to stop the garage, yet she stood there in absolute horror and watched the entire thing take place without moving.
People often freeze when they see something they didn't expect to see. If you see somebody suddenly stab another person right in front of you, you are far more likely to just stand there motionless for several seconds than you are to try to run or apprehend the attacker. It is literally your consciousness trying to determine that this absolutely crazy thing happening in front of you is actually really happening. You likely would be under the immediate assumption that it was all an act.
If we lead a more violent lifestyle as humans, with dangers around every corner, you would be much less likely to freeze up. If you see a person get stabbed once a week, it is nothing new to you, it isn't shocking, you don't immediately assume it is fake. You would react to it as you would any other common occurrence. For example, you don't freeze up when you walk in on somebody eating a meal.
This is also why your mom stood there in the doorway for several seconds that time you forgot to lock your door while masturbating.
And that's why I had my PC chair against my door so no one could open the door while I was sitting on it. Modern problems require modern solutions.
I hope that was the reason...
Your body can't go where your mind hasn't been. So I am constantly thinking about how to respond to surprise situations.
@@AlienRelics That is very true. A lot of people say things like "You never know how you'll react to a situation until you are in it." but in my experience, I've gone through different scenarios so many times in my head that when that rare event does happen, I don't panic and I get done what needs to get done.
And even when an event happens that I never thought about, I still perform well because I've conditioned myself to step back, observe, and make a decision.
@@KurNorock Agreed. I think I've saved myself from harm many times by not looking like a victim.
Fussing / being stuck in a loop is quite easily observable when you are overstimulated (think amphetamines/adrenaline) and haven't slept for at least a day. The longer you go without sleep the shorter the loop becomes. I can imagine that on the battlefront you'll push both of these aspects to an extreme.
Dwight K. Schrute yup, today I took ritalin to do a uni assignment and ended up fussing over getting as many sources, and as much information as possible. Now I have an absolute surplus of information on the Mongol Empire, I think I know even more than the lecturer, and somehow I have to figure out what’s the most important information and how to put it into 1200 words. I’ve cursed myself with too much knowledge. The problem is that without Ritalin I get nothing done, but with Ritalin I do too much.
It’s also 1:00am and I’m watching lindybeige while commenting and watching blue and orange circles and eating chocolate when I should be sleeping... and fuck there was a snake but I wasn’t wearing my glasses because I’m also taking out my contact lenses so that doesn’t count, i definitely woulda seen it.
Welcome to the mind of an ADHD master procrastinator uni student on amphétamines at 1am in the morning.
@@usainvanrudisha1649 good luck bro. :)
@@usainvanrudisha1649 How were you prescribed these? You should be taking them little and often. I don't know what happens if you take too much, but it sounds like a bad idea. I have double-dosed in the past, and it was fine, possibly because I was underprescribed (Long story but imagine you had superhuman kidneys). How much did you take? The effect should be to calm you down and to help you to reflect on what you are doing.
@@usainvanrudisha1649 : Here's a secret that (not taking into account ADHD _or_ Ritalin) tends to _help_ - Just start with something, and throw it away and start again in 15 or 30 minutes. The second version will be better _because_ the first one sucked- the suckitide will also serve to make the good bits more obvious, so you'll put those in the next version, change up the bad bits, and maybe none of them will actually make it to the final version, but they were only there to get you moving, so it's fine.
Similar sort of thing gets done by artists- they just smear some paint on the canvas at first with no regard to _what_ they're painting, because it's easier to do painting after they already put down paint than while the canvas is still "bare".
I love how your advert breaks aren't soulless plugs, but a genuine review. it's refreshing on youtube.
This was amazing. Brilliant work.
Blessed with a 47 minute video. Kettle's on lads!
but no mail coif...
Fire up the microwave
@@Yimyimyimyim277 Heresy!!!
@Ave, True To Caesar! Hey now!
@Europa Uber Alles I totally read that as "ak 47".
29:42
Ahhh, the good ol' basketball gorilla thing. Got me this time too.
It had the exact same setup so unfortunately I was primed to look out for what he was going to do
@@welshdragon99 I noticed the sock puppet but I didn't think it was supposed to be a snake and certainly didn't remember the color of it's tongue.
I saw the snake, but assumed it was intended as another example. After he asked about it, I realized what he was doing. I do feel like he should have cited Simons after giving the demonstration though.
I just thought it was another distraction and actively ignored it
@@OmneAurumNon what an interesting twist.
Amazing reflection. Thanks.
Wow, this is an awesome video!! So well done!!
Me watching the dots: Oh, hey, I see that snake. I'm on to you. I've been through psych 101.
Lindybeige: What color was the snake's tongue?
Me: ...
Lol same
But like, what was the count meant to be?!?!
yeah, the same to me, noticed the snake... but not the tonge color
@@Mitaka.Kotsuka I though puppet is just distraction and didn't pay attention to it.So i didn't even notice it was snake puppet.
I treat his videos podcasts and had no idea what he was talking about.
when I am playing some strategy games, sometimes I place a unit on guard duty and they don't really do anything the whole game. Reminds me of it 😁
That moment in Civ when you find your scouting spearman in the year 2035.
@@roblaquiere8220 lol basically the swiss guard of the pope.
Whenever you play NTW:
One eye Simon and broken legs Johnathan are my new favourite characters
I have just recently discovered these videos. Great video. I’m am writing this perhaps to early in this video. USMC called their trining to avoid this “a bios for action”. Of course there are times when one must observe the situation before acting, and other times acting is the only thing to do. As. Corpsman my training was an equal amount of both of these ideas. A patient stops breathing or is bleeding out, you must act at once to save a life. The process of “scene safety/size up” can be skipped when you are next to a acute patient already. If you can touch them, treat them.