Get Rid of Players
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2022
- If you play Football Manager for long enough, you run into a player you desperately need to get rid of, but you can’t. No matter how hard you try to sell this player there is never a team that seems to want to buy them, or if you try to loan a player there is never a team that wants the generous donation you are trying to provide. DO THEY NOT KNOW A WONDERKID WHEN THEY SEE ONE? HOW DARE THEY!
Player interest in transfers has become more important than ever in FM this year, so any quick tip to help you unload players will be welcome. The good news is we have found this tip and are able to pass it along to the Football Manager community as well as some other helpful tips to get these pesky players off your payroll.
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Sending them to b team and never looking at them in the eye ever generally does the trick for me.
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🤣🤣🤣
Not when they bags a big amount of wages from your budget💀
I should start to do it with Aubameyang in FM19. Thanks.
Reminds me of a certain Ferrari owner that drove it like a fiat
I had 35 yr old Julian Alvarez and his value was about 5 million pounds. For a whole season he would keep rejecting offers from clubs who were around his ability. Then one day I get a 400k offer from Bayern and he was begging to leave. He ended up only playing a few games for Bayern before getting released. L + ratio
U should've done a chad move and rejected that move, angering him further
@@sebastianpatriksson7814 yep. Letting him go at that point was beta AF. :)
poor Julian, he deserves better 💀💀💀💀
Had a wonderkid that wasn't gonna make the grade on my Wonderkid Farm, and tried offering him out for months without success. Put his Asking Price to £5m, got a ton of attention. Kept rejecting an re-offering at a slightly higher price. Ended up selling him for £70m haha.
Just here to say, shout out to the editor and animators for their excellent work
I always struggle in WHEN to let players go. I’m talking about younger players in particular! The ones that are on the fringe of the team, but not quite there, but could be good enough with more games!
My trick there is when they are 18 if they are on the fringes I offer to clubs to loan you can even target countries etc to send them too. Always make sure the loan includes minimum regular starter and regions that you have leagues loaded or least view only.
You will usually get lots of offers and pick and choose the best offer. Loaning them like this for a season or two usually leads to good development , on the nxtgen list or just lots of interest. If they still aren't good enough for you by 19-21 that's usually a good time to sell for highest values
Ok so?
@@jameswg13 that’s kind of what I already do, I suppose it’s when there are 2 or 3 players for 1 spot and they all start needing bigger contracts to keep them. It’s tough wether to give them a contract and loan them out, or to just cut my losses and sell them! But I suppose that’s what makes the game interesting! 👍
@@andreibaciu1347 thanks for the input! 🤦🏻♂️
@@GIBBO4182 true or offer them a contract but add in caveats. If they want say fringe player or squad player. Do the next one down then in the contract for next season or even season after put the one they want.
Up appearance fees or sub fees slightly to get lower wages. Add increased wages after so many games.
That way you can still loan them out a bit longer. Won't cost you and you will get a higher transfer value due to better contract
This is why Luis Campos is the first staff member I target on a top-team save. Having a good Director of Football can be incredibly useful
From Bilbao ?
@@austinlarrimore6542 psg i guess
He is DOF in Manu and it helped me to suggest that to sign new players and getting premier league
I always have the issue that players "over perform" on my team. Like I can have the top scorer in the league and top assists while both of them are what I feel like mid table players (this is for PEC Zwolle in the Dutch First Division).
This leads to them wanting higher wages than their stats warrant.
So then I try to sell them but because their value is so inflated because of their performances no one is willing to make an offer and if they do it's millions below their value, usually from a 2nd Division league in like Italy.
And if I accept I make my board angry...
Strangely enough not even one of them getting top scorer gets me good bids in, I thought surely other teams would scout on that and at least be tempted to make an offer? Or minimally show "interest" in the squad screen.
I have gotten promoted to the premier league quite a few times with over performing top league two/league one/bottom championship level players. Then when you get to the premier league its a pain to upgrade your squad, because premier league level players dont want to join, because “quality of playing squad is to low” the quality players you then do get, typically wants 3 times their normal wage, causing other issues. The worst part though, it that striker you had as topscorer in league north, national and league two, who is now 22 have played 90 games and scored 85 goals, but you release him cause he is not league one quality, then one year later he retires cause he cant get a new job…. Seen it soooo many times.
@@timpeterjensen2364 you exactly and perfectly described my Woking save, I can name you countless of players who were always amazing for me but the moment they left (sold for like little money or out of contract) they just never played anywhere ever until retiring.
The worst part of this whole thing is that I dont know what to do about it. I'm not using any special tactics, signing any special players or anything. It just happens and then when it gets to the Prem it's just not fun anymore
@@ShinySwalot agreed. Theres tons of small issues like this in FM you only really notice if you play alot. The players never playing again, is likely because of them asking fir waay to big contracts for their actual quality. A way to solve tjis would be to make players drop their contract and club level requirements faster, if they dont get offered a new contract within 6 months, most young players would be desperate at that point.
@@timpeterjensen2364 exactly! Especially when they have such good number to show for them, surely irl a club from your size or smaller would at least give them a chance right?
For now though, I dont really know what to do with my save. I have a player asking for a new contract so I decided to try and make an alternate duplicate trial save to see if I could let my Director sell him for money like Zealand suggested but it didnt work :(
And the morale is too good so when I ask him to find another club he says "no, I like it here"... even after I failed giving him the contract lol
@@ShinySwalot yeah it can be a pain.
1:06
Some other good ones I can quickly think of:
He has committed several war crimes against the bird population above the stadium.
He is looking somewhere and passes the ball elsewhere...
He is the heart of the dressing room. So you don't want to get him out in the pitch.
He would be every team's best player. Apart from the one he plays at.
This year, at least in the main leagues, (but even in the MLS and Serie B that I've played in this year as all) I've not really struggled to sell many players, I'm almost always able to either sell or at least loan them out, and for an example, I got Greg Taylor, the left back for Celtic for free at the end of last season, but by the beginning of the next season, I had already signed a new, young left back with better stats than him as he was only a good championship backup, so I listed him up for transfer and... €15.5 million by some Greek team. And I did the same thing in the same season for Sibley for €8 million, two players that should've realistically been impossible to sell that I've been able to sell with just one offer to clubs, but overall it just hasn't been at all painful for me in letting go players for some reason, I don't believe I have any realism mods installed as I started my save without even a facepack 5 months ago
Now that I'm thinking about it, those two times that I sold them, they were unhappy because I signed players in their position, and when the "you need to talk to this player or your morale will die" message pops up, I tell them that they're leaving and I'm transfer listing them, and then I offer them out and 9 times out of ten, I get a transfer offer
@@sinful9347 Yeah, same.
but only when they complain.
but if they don't, then it's though to try getting rid of em'.
Yeah it's a lot easier to get rid of deadwood now. I sold Jones to some team in Israel lol
I discovered a workaround on the asking price problem. Establish an asking price the player accepts and set it.
THEN: lower the value by one click.
If there is no response, your asking price is good.
If the agent/player starts complaining again, lower the asking price again until they accept it. This new lower asking price will work without upsetting the player.
Very interesting, I’ve played with derby this year and struggle to offload my stepping stone players / under developed wonder kids. I always knew this was here but didn’t actually think it worked!
I’ve a few rotation players I don’t want to be actively selling but they have a price I’d be willing to let them go for. would this also work for those players if I set them to unwanted but a fee over their value? Or does it bring their moral down?
You might want to add that there are options in the unwanted list that prevent the players from being sold into your own league. That is one of the options that is very valuable if you want to 'cash in' on players that dont suck but you dont want them to play for rivals or in your own league for the competition.
I really had no idea that this was in the game, I always saw it when clicking through the options and now I’m going to use it more often when I’m struggling to loan out players I need to develop and or sell
One of the things I love about Football Manager is that even in June/July we are still discovering things that change the way we play. New tactics are one thing, but this is a part of the game SI have chosen to include and make more effective, that most were not really using that much, and then they don't tell us about it, so we can work together as a community to discover these things. Zealand and his stream discovered this one, and I'm so grateful, because this has helped so much on my save!
My board lowered my wage budget mid-season for no reason, and it took me well under my current spend, so I had to reduce my wages by £1.1m per week. (I'm Portsmouth who I have taken to the Premier League.) I was struggling so hard to sell players as I didn't know this trick, and the board ended up getting very angry. This should now solve my problem and allow me to move on players, without 'Selling team wage contributions' and other issues! - Cheers Zealand, and his community!
Also - awesome video, Zealand and his team always put out superb content, and this is another great video, well explained, easy to follow, with a bit of humour as well!
Thanks so much for doing this. Most useful video you have done for a while, Zealand.
I love loaning out for a mandatory fee for players I really want out. You almost always get the bid you want/are okay with, you just need to wait a bit until you get the money.
Hey Zealand, thanks for the video. Will you follow this up with a specific guide to the homegrown rule?
Again one of my ultimate weapon when i want to loan out my players, transfer listed them, and offer them fro 20-30% of their transfer value, then when there are teams that wanted them, reject the transfer and offer him for loan to the same country of the club that wanted him.
damn that's good. The only issue I see is the players often getting upset when you offer them out? Although I guess if they're being loaned out immediately they have a season to recover morale - especially if their loan goes well
@@TheDominicProject you can tricked that by ticking the transfer listed and surplus requirement option when you offer him, however, don't forget to untransfer listed them before they leave to the loaned club.
Hey Zealand I have a great idea for a series for you. You should buy a mystery football kit and based on what team you get you should do a save with them so you could have an easy team like Man City or a hard team from a Thailand called Police Tero (that was definitely not a kit I got from them) and think it would be very interesting to see how thinks would go and even if you wanted to you could do it within a season deadline where you have maybe 5 seasons to try get as much success with a team and then after those 5 seasons buy another shirt and then try get that job or something like that I don’t know it’s just an idea but whatever team you’re playing with you have to wear their kit or else there will be consequences
Had a player that wanted to leave and I was happy to offload. He has a value of between 75million to 93million. Offered him out to clubs for 75million. The reply said no offers came in, but Bayern and Milan were interested. But Bayern were only willing to pay 375k and Milan would only pay 175k. He's still with me after the transfer window. I really hate the way this game screws the player all the time. Might have to try these tips.
Oh cool going to Greenland, I am currently playing in Greenland in my FM save. I would love to see that!!
Genuinely one of your most useful videos
Persuade to join is sometimes useful and can make a difference.wish there was an option when selling to pay % of wages but only for the 1st year.will try going directly to interested club's to see if i can get better value
I find myself going the opposite in my current Barcelona save - I put them out on the unwanted list and get no traction, but then I get success when I offer them out myself. But I find the GM/DoF role good for generally getting rid of the bulk of players when I get into a club and can't just get rid of everyone myself without losing track of it all.
Coming from being a fan of the NFL, it is so weird to have members of your team who know they are not wanted, and who know they won't play at all, be able to just refuse to sit around on your roster instead of going somewhere they can play and keep their career alive.
Is it like that in real life. Where they are willing to let all their skills erode and just sit around collecting a check and refusing offers to play for other teams?
I guess the NBA is kind of like that at times, where players have to be bought out to get them off your roster. But that is mostly because of salary cap rules etc.
Liking that Mingos shirt, top notch.
Another way ive got rid of players and it may be something you do when your at a lower down team or theirs a player who is no longer up to standard and dosent want to leave is letting them run down their contract and i mainly do this if they only have a year left on their deal and i generally have no interest in keeping the player and theirs no clubs interested in buying them. I used this in my malaga save ive started and after the first season it helped us to free up alot of funds on our wage budget to then bring in more players who one would improve the teams quality and two making the core of players more younger. This helped us to afford to get lorenzo lucca, along with a mixture of free transfer player to fit the system i wanted to use from the second season onwards
Pro Tip. Add the player on development list for 100% of the wage, offer the play out for loan and lock they salary at 100%. You will receive tons of offers at 100%.
Reasons to sell players: increase unspent transfer budget to $100+ million
Another trick is to go Offer player, On loan, and individually select every country you would loan your player out.
You'll get plenty of offers from the countries you select, but no offers from non selected countries. Also most of times you can ask for loan fees, it may be an exploit, but you can get up to 170k per month with a loan
I don't use it enough to say I've noticed my DoF getting more interest than I have but one reason I tend not to use it is I'd like the option to add additional fees rather than just a straight asking price, things like 10% of profit clauses or something. Still for players I just want gone and to never have to think about again I might give it a shot.
This is good advice i was Slough Town before in 2020 and they start with a pair of brothers one who is a 30+ CD with like 8 pace who rapidly falls to like 5 pace hes still a star player and most of the team will flip out if you change his playing time or try to offload him! so annoying!
I play in the A-League in Australia as Wellington Phoenix, and honestly offering players for loan to all Japanese clubs is like a cheat code.
I literally could not get transfer offers for anyone on my team, but as soon as I offered to Japanese clubs (with a fat monthly payment on top of all wages covered), I often had 3 or more offers per player.
I've also had luck sending players to Bahrain, especially if they're not the same calibre of players going to Japan. I've had occasional luck with China, Canada, Iran, South Korea, UAE, and Saudi Arabia.
Incredibly helpfull, I had this dude in my Chester team who had big wages but no work permit and no loan offers would come in. I offered him to Japan and boom two offers for him to be a star player arrived!
Hello Zealand. You seem to care about pronouncing foreign names correctly so I would like you offer some help. For Portuguese names, as a pretty general rule, and as opposed to Spanish ones, 'o's at the and of words (and names) are usually pronounced a 'u's. For instance, unlike in spanish where you pronounce it FernandOH, in Portuguese you should pronounce it as FernandU. The same about applies to Bruno (so Brunu), Bernardo, Tiago, Cristiano, Moutinho, etc. It also sometimes applies to 'o's in the middle of names, such as Novais, which should be pronounced as Nuvaish
It will always be Bruno Fenansch for me
Man I love unloading on wanted individuals with this new strategy!
Going to try this... im at newcastle united, and in season 1 bought lemar to help club develop.. now in season 3, ive changed tactic so hes surplus to requirements, and he doesnt want to go. Ive lowered asking price told him hes unwanted and changed squad status but still no action.... im hoping to add him to unwanted list and see if i get offers
Always felt like the feature was bugged in my FM21 save. When choosing positions I want my loanee to play at another club, the game would randomly select und un-select certain positions. Same with playing time and training facilities. Always had better success simply offering guys out on my own.
Weird. Maybe they fixed it on FM22.
I can get 1 or 2 oldies or shite players maybe seeing out their contract but for the most part its all about contract management, give them only a year if they're just a stop gap backup while your main team is pushing up the table and your youth prospects are growing
What I always like to do is sell my best player within the first 3 or so years so I can progress forward in my save. In my deportivo la coruna save I bought a Nigerian striker for 4m from fc midtjylland and I had him until my 2nd season in La liga after back to back promotions. I sold him for 75m and I’ve reinvested that into stronger players in my weakest positions and lots of young players I can turn a profit on in future.
What if I want to sell my star player in good form with interest but no offers? I can offer him out, but he's a team leader so if he gets pissed I might lose my dressing room? Do players react if you add them onto the unwanted list?
In previous FM versions these lists never worked for me, DoF just got no offers. There wasn't a single moment that I thought to myself good thing I put this player on the list, didn't matter if it was for a loan or sale. Maybe they fixed it for this years version?
I dont know if this has ever been a problem for me in 22 but it has in the past.
The one thing im struggling with rn is realism. Its not realistic that i have a striker on my team who ive just signed up to a new contract( 3 years ) hes young and banging in the goals left right and center he also has high potential Im with Dorking and have just been promoted to the VNL have the same 1 and a half star rated team that my competitors have yet their strikers in the same mould have a transfer value in the 100s of thousands while mine is literally 10k.
Like it literally doesnt make sense. Bolton and Fleetwood( teams in the championship )wont stop sending in offers for his value which makes me decline them and sees him getting arsey and wanting to leave.
On top of that since the club got promoted the " boss " decided to build a new stadium( because of league regulations stating clubs need 4000 capacity stadiums or above ) despite the fact the game moved us to a stadium with a higher capacity in the meantime, when our budget just couldnt take it.
Now im keeping a tighter reign on costs and havent used the transfer budget, im also using just over half of the alotted wage budget and still find myself in the fuckin mire.
Its annoying because im developing these players over two seasons or more and for whatever reason im not getting good value and being able to offset the cost of the season with player sales.
The game has got so many fuckin issues its ridiculous. Like through no fault of my own my shit is failing. Got a gaffer who thinks its a bright idea to build a 3.2 million stadium that if we move upto to league two would have to be torn down and start again while sticking us in a stadium that has a 80k a year rent when the club itself isnt generating 80k surplus to placate that, nevermind the cost of the new fuckin stadium.
Yeah pretty much until you hit like the Championship you should just live off loan ins, and like 1 year deals as much as you can. Then when the 1 year deals expire don't resign or release them and they may just stay on at the same rate in a month to month capacity which in effect gets you to keep them at the league below's salary that you signed them for while you're in one level up.
Sadly reputation will always keep the player values low, and due to poor facilities/level of play/level of coaching while those players may be developing to you and your teams you weren't ever really going to develop them by holding onto them anyways.
In good news this mechanic of losing money while rising up the levels to some degree can help by either having the board just cover the cost or conversely decide to sell their asset and now the new owners they sold too may cover the costs or inject cash that way.
The reputation just changes extremely slowly though so maybe if you kept that young striker in the VNL for like 4 years his value would raise that way but... it just doesn't matter compared to just 1 year guys and having a loan army team and getting promoted instead for your franchise.
Getting shut of Takumi Minamino on his stupidly high contract in FM21 was an absolute nightmare, he was determined to go on a free so instead of loaning him I gave him hell week every week in training.
"Will rate your wonderkinds for food" got me goood 😂
interesting video as I always found my DOF couldn't find deals compared to me especially with youth development loans, DOF would find no teams but if I did the offer it would come in with 10+ offers immediately
you need switch your DOF? you have 2 guys that do transfers and loans. if in the club you are the bad numbers of scouting and negociating, you need buy new 2 guys to do the job that have high (minimum) 16 to 19 and negociating high (minimum) 16
Is it possible to get rid of a highly influential player or team leader, without destroying morale? I have 3 very old players that earn way too much, and I’m worried about dynamics crumbling if I sell one or two of them. Also, they are at a team I just took over.
Any chance of doing some videos to help on Xbox as the game is different
I have issues selling people who refuse to leave. Even though they’re not bad players, I’ll be looking to cash in, but they’re all like “what? I love it here. I stay.” And reject the contracts from every team that comes in. I’m in the Austrian Bundesliga as Fc Wacker Innsbruck, and I’ll have players that refuse moves to actual bundesliga teams.
3rd Right Back (Joker) who played like 10-15 matches a day because my other Right Backs are pretty injury prone came to me and wanted to leave. His Value was between 6 and 9 million, I put him on the transfer list with an asking price of 10 million. Offering out myself I got an 6 million offer from Feyenoord. Then I asked my DoF to sell him for 10 million and within a day I got a 10m offer from Bremen.
The AI this year makes really stupid transfers, I sold Bryan Mbuemo from Brentford to Dortmund for ~60m, he played one game for them before they let him go for free 3 years later. This has happened to me with multiple sold players, I think it is to do with putting a high per league appearance fee in the sale. Iirc his was 400k per game for 20 games.
So if you want to waste your rivals money sell them a player they want and add a massive per league app fee, they will likely leave him to rot in the reserves.
This is evil and I love it
I have a team of 4 "star players" and 11 "important players" and just realized that this is not sustainable, since my season ended at a huge financial loss (im Valencia fighting for the league and winning CL most of the time).
Trying to offload a 31 yo Hannibal, who is still a beast but its my 2nd "star player" at his position
They are Scott Mctominays of their teams.
Loan + mandatory fee is the way I’ve found helps
Even just the thought of you selling Owen van der Horst is triggering to me. Ohhhh van der horst is magic
This is really interesting, i didnt know this was possible. Now my question is, what kind of offers does he get, is it possible that he accepts and low transfer fee with a high selling team contribution, i really hate those and always before offering someone out, I must exclude that option from the deal
I dunno Z, I've used the development list and the unwanted list before and never had any luck with either..and my DoF has amazing attributes. I guess it depends on the players you are trying to get rid of or loan, but no one would touch my players with a ten foot pole 😅
Same, does nothing for me.
I put a player on as for 20% wage, decent training facilities and the a champions league side comes in for them and my loan manager is like "I've rejected it on your behalf"
Zealand I have been trying to get the game FM 22. I have watched ur videos I want to try and play game bcos I haven't b4
Hapiness
Agreed playing time
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*Surplus To Requirements*
Works like magic for me usually
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For some reason my HoYD is responsible for my unwanted list. How do I change this? I've gone through everything on the game but I can't change it. Does anyone know how to fix this? I need my Director of football to do it! TIA
Time to get to the end opf the season, if I stay up Thierno Ballo will leave. If not I cry and go again in the championship
Native Madisonian here. Loving the FMFC Kit!!! #fullmingo
Do you never get the chat message that a player feels like he's being forced out of the club? I feel like that has happened to me a couple of times without doing this and if it were to happen it feels like it would be a nightmare for dynamics
The zealand begging animation and voiceover 😂
Don't know about the dev list but whenever I use the unwanted list I would received a perfectly acceptable loan offer but because it's not a transfer offer the DoF immediately rejected it. After a few occasions I don't bother with it anymore
No one on my development list gets hits either. I have all these killer wonderkids that aren't getting playing time. :(
From 0:49 to the end of the subcategories of not being good enough, fat head Maguire instantly came to my head
I've had mixed success with loan lists even in FM22. I have NEVER. EVER. EVVVVVERRRR!!!! had a player sold by my GM from the unwanted list. Though then again, I haven't tried to use it in a few versions of FM because it has NEVER worked. Maybe I'll try it again. LOL
I hate when I put a player in my reserves to get match fitness and they kick off
"No James I don't hate you, you're just back from a 5 month injury and this is so you can take it easy and get fit again before I throw you back into the first team and you throw out your back coming off the bench"
Just leave in first team squad and make available for all reserve matches, they don't kick off that way
I hated these types of players who won't leave the team, and worse than that, is those that have a contract expiring, so i need to drop his prices to actually sell him,and EVEN THEN he won't accept to leave
Development list only works for young player tho right?
After so many years of playing FM I've finally found a way to offload players which works everytime. And I mean EVERYTIME! It is by using FM editor!😂
Shhh… that’s the secret they don’t want you to know about 🤣
do a road to glory with Caldas Sport Clube from Portugal
Got a regen keeper I am trying to loan out. He is described as a leading premiership player already at 19.
Nobody will loan him for free with no wages to play.
Wow, so there's actually a reason to have a DoF on staff, taking up all those wages!🤣
Hey Zealand,
Trick for english speakers, "Novais" as a portuguese name, the "ai" reads just "i" the letter, as if it was standing alone. So imagine Nov I S. 👌
Zealand you are a very funny man at least!! Love from India..............
Why can only some players be put on the Development list? It seems arbitrary on my save. Half my first team can be put on the Development list, literally none of my reserves or u-19s can. I changed the responsibilities to delegate the outgoing development loans to my General Manager but it's still the same.
Even if I do that I never receive a offer close to their transfer fees and above that, I had to add 50% selling contribution clause..maybe it's a drawback of Playing in England
Isn't the GM/DOF difference from who is given the staff responsibility of offloading players?
No, the MLS is about the only league who calls it a General Manager, while in England and most other English-speaking countries it's a Director of Football. Same position, different name for the job. You can see for yourself by switching between the US and UK language versions.
Will you go to Austria and watch your team play live?
The thing I hate the most is when you start a new save and ALL your players have their contract due next summer. If you are playing lower league football chances are you dont have salary room to renew the contracts and whats worse, you have a very narrow window between the artificial "i just signed for this club" and them being able to negotiate end of contracts, meaning you have a few days to get terrible offers for them or they leave on a free.
I'm on a new save with UD Logroñés and they dont have the finantial room to move, and they have a very old team whose CA is top tier for their division. Having the team they have is already tanking the economy and I'm three months appart of earning a promotion with a negative likely 3-4 million in the balance. Nightmare, and spanish second division doesnt even give much money
I feel ya, did a save in 4th Tier Japan and you just cant renew everybody contract theres too little money to work with
@@n1troni I guess you have to perform with what you have and try to sing the loans song off the top of your lungs. Just got certified the promotion from 3rd division to second and finally the board approved to look for a senior affiliate.
The club balance will be negative for the time being, even if I sold the contracted ones I'd hit zero at best with no players left. Sucks because generally you want money to start getting better coaches and facilites, but its a case of loss management instead of "winning"
You mentioned B team and I think you should do a video talking about how to make your B team in a higher league.
he already made a video on b teams... fm21, but nothings changed
@@mathkrGames Well... if I remember well is a mess, is basically put good players there and prayed.
How do you solve the problem of players only signing a contract if you improve a certain position and you do get better in that position, but it’s not good enough despite the team being 1st and that position is one of the best in the team. And so they want to leave. I signed Szoboszlai for Dortmund and he wanted me to improve my defence. I didn’t and now he’s on leave ‘figuring out his next move’. It’s so annoying when my Dortmund defence is solid and doesn’t really need improving. It’s not amazing but performance-wise, it’s best in the league. But I’m not going to spend £60 mil on some random popular CB to appease them whilst dropping my other solid CBs.
NEVER agree to this. Ever.
I've been trying to get Leno off my fucking squad the entire window, and this video pops up right on 1st of September.. Great
Ever get the situation where your young prospect has multiple loan offers but your DoF/GM rejects them all because they "don't meet his valuation"? Very annoying!
I'm lucky in a way, my Charlton side I've barely ever made losses on my deals even if its taken a while, I've found if you have to wait a while 8/10 you will make more later, I tried to sell Pablo Fornals, Julian Brandt, Malcom and Anthony Martial in summer 2028 (so all 31-32) thanks to the 50% profit clause I might make back the £100k I lost on Fornals (£16.9 million paid £17 million), £4 million on Malcom (sold for £13 million paid £17 million unlikely) and Martial (£8 million paid £10.5 million so unlikely) but Brandt had interest for 6 months, offered him out and got no offers or if I did they were under £8 million (profit as I paid £6.5 million) but summer 2028 came and I got £15 million from Benfica to cover the other guys.
My God this just sounds like another way FM has decided to make the game a pain in the ass for really no good reason.
Fantastic Jersey Zealand up the Mingos
Yea, I have a shitty save and after I've sent them to reserve team they just decided to retire when they end their contract with me. I'm almost bankrupt and have 4 shitty old dudes with HUGE wages in this situation. I have just started with the team, I didn't do the contracts. I think I'll just try to get a job somewhere else :(
what list i need so liverpool and manu dont buy all my best players
A simple story,
I offered a 29 year old newgen by the name of Oleksander Birbatov out because he was terrible. Nobody wanted him so I moved him to the U18's.
He got very upset with me and ended up mutually terminating the contract.
4 years later.... He still has no club
I found it very easy to get rid of players in this version.
Let's make something clear real quick. You can't sell players. You only sell the value left on their contracts. Don't try to buy people off the street boys. Straight to jail.
i struggle to keep players rather than getting rid of them
I used to blame FM. Now I realize (embarrasingly late) that the same I want to save money on a fee is the same way the CPU wants the same. No, they're not gonna give you top dollar if they can avoid it lol.
One thing that annoys me in FM22 which I've only just discovered, is that when you get yourself a Feeder Club or Couple of Feeder Clubs, with the prospect of sending players to them to get game time and match experience, very useful for your reserves and U23s that aren't ready for the first team yet, that when you click on ont he player and select move to affiliate, 99% of the time the player doesn't move because the player rejects the transfer. In what world does this happen? If Manchester City turn round to some 20 year old in the reserves and tell him he's going to a Championship Club or Scottish Premiership Team or Belgian Premier Team for a year to get match experience and develop, he would not have any say in the matter, he would just pack his bags and move. So frustrating that I'm paying yearly fees to clubs I was hoping to loan my young players to and they are a complete waste because 20 year old punks who've never played a competive match have power to veto you as the Manager of the club and say they are not going on loan.
What makes this more broken is in the opposite situation, if you are the Championship Club or Similar with a Premiership or other Top Team as a Senior Affiliate or Parent Club, you can go to them and loan whoever you want from them. I'm sure a League 2 Team in real life could go to Manchester City and just take De Bruyne on Loan because they are an affiliate and City would have no issue with that.
The last paragraph only detracts from your good pint initially. Man City almost never allow ANY players to go to L2, if they do it will be players NOWHERE NEAR the first team. They would never loan de Bruyne etc to anyone, unless they wanted to leave and fees were involved. What you described in the last paragraph doesn’t happen. At all.
@@daviebananas1735 except it does in football manager. The smaller clubs can raid their Senior Affiliates for players. This is why the content creators like Zealand always press and bang on about making sure you get Senior Affiliates if you are a small club, because you can loan in all their good talent. I agree with you 100% that it should not be possible for smaller teams to take Senior Clubs Senior Players and more so that Senior Players would not move to such teams.
It just seems to me like Sports Interactive have got the whole Affiliate Club thing back to front. I'd expect Senior Clubs to be able to send whoever they wall to the smaller club and the move happens as simple as moving a player between your own squads. I would not expect the Little Club to be able to loan 1st Team Players, unless they were listed for loan by the Senior Club, so no chance De Bruyne or Haaland would get loaned by someone managing a team in the Vanarama.
@@Cwattyeso I use senior affiliates in EVERY save, until I get to the top level. I’ve never been able to get a first team player from a senior affiliate, unless I’m one league below and he’s a fringe player. I’ve never seen any small junior AI affiliate do what you are saying. It doesn’t happen. Even if the clubs accepted the offer (which they don’t) the players often reject the move, even when they are youth players etc. This is not a thing in the game, or else I would have exploited it every time. I often struggle to get an 18yo youth team player to come to L2 from a senior affiliate in the championship. I’ve also never seen or heard anyone do this, or even mention it as a bug. Teams in the top league almost always respond “would prefer him to play with better players” to ANY player you try and loan. The idea you can get Haaland on loan in L2 is completely false.
@@daviebananas1735 the point I was trying to make is that it seems in Football Manager if you are playing as the smaller club with a senior affiliate it's easier to loan players, then if you are the Senior Club and are trying to offload your players to your smaller affiliates. I honestly don't pay much attention to the A.I. in game so don't know how those teams go about exchanging and switching players. I only comment on what I see as the player. I also can only comment on what I have experienced in the past and definitely found the Feeder Club System to be much more player friendly in earlier versions of FM, where you as the player could send anyone under contract to an affiliate and they would move. It feels so bad for me in FM22 that I playing as Manchester United can't send any of my players to Derby County, Dundee United or Club Brugge who are my Affiliates to get match experience, because the player always refuses the move. Yet at the same time if a smaller club from a lower competition make a loan offer for the player, my DoF or HoYD will often accept the bid and the weirdly the player will go and play for these teams and then usually complain all season they aren't starting enough matches or are being played in the wrong position etc.
I feel like abandoning the whole Afffiliate Club system entirely and cancelling my links with teams to save on the yearly fees and just using the in-game editor to move the players I want to develop on loan to other clubs at the start of the season and lock in their playing time and positions.
@@Cwattyeso I’m both directions, the players reputation and the loaning clubs reputation will dictate if they accept the loan. If you are trying to loan a good player to Hearts, they will not go, nor should they. Good Man Utd players have ZERO interest in going to hearts IRL. The players who go to smaller teams will be lesser players and the clubs rep will be closer to where they want to go. I’ve never had an issue either way that didn’t seem at least slightly rational. I’ve never seen any top player going on loan to a small team in a lower division. As I said, this does not happen. Ever.
Did.....did he just say he wanted to hear my success stories of unloading on wanting individuals?..................
This made little to no diffrence for me. Even the players "wanted" by more major clubs won't get an offer, and I've offerd them on unspecified, targeted the clubs in question, added them to unwanted, everything. Probably offering them for free (or 20 M undervalue) might work, but I don't wanna do that.
I managed tns in wales and was in champions league group stages a few years running and needed a change and to improve players go go to the next step. A striker Dave Stewart was good at the time. However I payed him silly money. He wouldn’t leave he had 3 years left. Half a season in the reserves and he was on his way. Good bye Dave. You over pay muppet
this is not a 100 percent successful way, sometimes especially in lower league like third division , you have a bad general manager that is not able to do a goddamn thing right for you and there is not a worse division or worse team that will want your player anyway, this happened with a 35 year old player in the liga 3(sacha molders) to me and I had no choice but sit and wait till he decided to retire which was two years later