Savage B22 Precision Quick Review and Ammo Comparison
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- **** The trigger is not 11 pounds, its 1 pound 11 ounces****Quick rundown with the b22 with various ammo. All groups at 50 yards.
4:03 Federal Target - 1.32
4:25 Aguila Competiton - 1.06
5:24 Eley Force - .732
6:09 Eley Target - .681
7:02 Aguila Super Extra - .593
7:57 Lapua Center-X - .582
8:42 CCI Standard Velocity - .542
10:11 Wolf Match Target - .515
11:01 Eley Contact - .470
12:10 Remington Match EPS - .444
Excellent. Thanks for your commitment to the sport we all love. Much appreciated.
thanks so much for watching!
Great review. Thanks! I shoot 50yd competition with a CZ 452 American and a Savage BTVS. Both great shooters. I use SK Standard Plus for practice and Center X for matches. I always go back to these if I stray away.
yea i still need to try sk with it just didn't have any.
I love your videos they are very informative. Keep up the great work you do
thanks for watching!
Finally i found a guy that shows what this gun can do ty
shoots well for sure.
Love seeing your targets with multiple 5-shot groups. That really helps illustrate the overall variability for each ammo. After watching your videos I've been shooting the NRL22 1.5" targets as a benchmark to compare different ammo for each rifle and I agree that you don't need 25 rounds to prep/foul/season the barrel for that ammo. I know you had a less-than-great experience with the CZ457 and that is unfortunate - mine will shoot 4 different readily-available ammo with consistent sub-MOA accuracy at 50 yards. My RPRR not so much... Would love to see your targets downrange sometime. Keep up the great work and looking forward to your next video!
glad yours shoots well. i will have and have never knocked cz at all mine just didn't shoot well. as far as future videos i'm going to take the bergara, the tikka, the b22, and my christensen arms ranger when it comes in and do a 100 yard test with the ammo they all shoot best.
@@coreyd1474 I've seen in a couple of rifles that the most accurate ammo at 50 yds is not necessarily the most accurate at 100. Any chance of getting a Vudoo in the future? Would love to see 50 shots at 50 yards and another 50 at 100 from that platform.
Great review!!
Thanks! for watching!
Useful reviews with the multiple ammos. Thanks! I'm in the market for a fun "affordable" .22 precision rifle. Of course, like everyone else, I'm finding it's a choice between this, the Ruger, a CZ with added stock/chassis or TX1 with added stock/chassis. Your videos are very helpful. I think I've narrowed it down to the B22 and TX1 with MDT or KRG stock/chassis. Gained a subscriber!
glad i could help! having shot all of them i'd say its a real toss up between the t1x and the b22 but like you said you gotta put another 350-400 in a chassis to make the tikka nice.
@@coreyd1474 thanks, yeah the B22 seems to definitely be the best out of the box bang for your buck, that's for sure.
@@SEAKPhotog yep I would agree. Nothing needed. The trigger is nice enough also
i have a B22 fv and it took about 400 rd s to really smooth out and start getting .750 groups at 50 yds . the best ammo i have tried is CCI standard .
yea i think these rifles really perform well.
I have a 12yr old Marlin 925 that shoots the Aguila high velocity ammo surprisingly well.
those old marlins all seem to do well
Im with ya on the savage stuff. My FV-SR is a true shooter. Set zero on ammo to scope and punch holes in those dots all day. It does really like the 1200 fps stuff. Action looks the same as the FV-SR. Just a stock thing. I also have the Rugar RPRR. No fast ammo in that guy will do well. Has to be 1070 to 1100 for some reason. Anyway.....thanks Corey. Targets tell it all. Thats the magic.
exactly! can talk about a gun all day but you have to show results. good or bad.
I have one in 22 Magnum and it shoots lights out. Butter Creek also makes 25 round magazines for them as well
i'm hesitant to buy anything 22 wmr because i don't hunt and there is a very small selection of ammo so if your's shoots like shit with the limited ammo you're stuck, but i'm glad your's shoots well!
Thanks for the great review, looking to get the 22 wmr version. What bipod are you using?
thanks for watching! i see some folks getting good results with the wmr version. its an atlas bipod. expensive but top notch quality.
Another great video. Love it. You can never go wrong with cci standard velocity. I haven't seen you shoot a 22 that hated it I don't think. At least not too bad. The remington ammo surprised me. Didn't see that one coming. I see it at my local stores but never picked it up. I'll have to give that a try now.
You have so many 22lr rifles. Also I think I'm going to finally try that Aguila super extra. Thank you for your trials so I can make my decisions.
Have you been stocking up on ammo too because of all the crazy stuff happening?
I've got something really neat coming if it ever ships been on order since early march
Yea standard velocity and center x
Such a nice rifle. I’ll own one once they change up that magazine and go back to their single stack design.
it really does shoot so well. a tad ugly IMO and the mags are absolute trash. they take the same ones as the a22 and i got two new ones. neither of them would feed worth a damn.
if you put a single stack on it then its no good for NRL22---you cant easily set the gun atop some of the props, like the ladder, tank trap and so on...the magazine was picked because it can sit flush and on top of any prop easily. Thats why it was designed as such...I've had no "woosy" moments loading 5 mags in 2 minutes
I've had nothing BUT trouble with Savage "single stack" or Mkll/93 mags. Constantly have to bend the feed lips to get them to retain and feed ammo correctly. Complete crap!
Good video. How is the round feeding system on it? Are the bullets scraped by the bolt like some others have reported with this rifle?
good question and i have seen where more than a few have said theirs scars the round. WITH CCI STANDARD VELOCITY this one does not. a few types of other it has a very light scrape. nothing that would impede accuracy. i have seen pics of some pretty big chunks though.
@@coreyd1474 Did you witness any scraping or other marks on your Ruger Precision Rimfire or similar Ruger American Rimfire?
Those scope rings are cool
They're too high and I should be ashamed 🤣🤣🤣
Never be ashamed
Give CCI 45gr suppressor a try. It’s slow. But has been very accurate for me.
where they sell it.
Corey: I am still dancing around buying either the Tikka or that Bergara.. I agree that the action is smoother in the Tikka, and I like the bolt angle of throw better on the Tikka.... BUT.... which rifle did you find had the better accuracy? The tightest groups? Sure do not mean to be a nuisance... I just really appreciate and respect the homework you do for all of us...
I think he said that the bergara shot more types of ammo well
yea like tony said i think the bergara shoots more different types of ammo better on the average but i also need to try a few more types out of this. i don't think the berg is worth 1k. 800 MAYBE
If you don’t mind shelling out more for the B14R, go for it. At 50 yds, mine was shooting a jagged hole first time out at the range. The group tightened up at 100 on my second time out and that day was windy. The B14R sells for twice the price of this Savage where I live, but you get what you pay for.
I wish I saw your videos before I bought my first rifle
What did you buy?
Its So nice to see your reply :) I got ruger precision rimfire because that's the first gun dealer showed to me and that is my first gun. It shoots well. The only thing I wish I would have known is the handguard. If I use bigger scope, the scope is nearly touching the upper section of handguard. Savage B22 does not have upper section for handguard which is nice.
I have a question for you. Did you upload a video on ammo comparison of ruger precision before you swapped barrel?
I appreciate all of your videos! they are so well organized and straight to the point!
@@yoonkim2725 with a bigger scope you'll just need to get taller rings, easy fix. and yes the original ammo comparison videos were done with the factory barrel. but keep in mind, yours may or may not produce similar results with said ammo.
Awesome i want one
this one is for sale :)
Do you do Rimfire Competition shoots? you should tryout ABRA or ARA. they are fun. Also what is a Rimfire rifle you own that would be your competition rifle?
I "train" for them but where I live in Ohio there is nothing withing driving distance im willing to go. I tnink it will grow thoughr
Hey dude great video! Just got this gun and bought a sling for it. Do u know where the sling would attach to the back of the gun? Can't seem to figure it out, thanks!
how doesn't your shoot? yea i'm not really sure, just get one with a strap and tie it to the end i guess??? pretty silly of them for not putting flush cups on there.
drill holes in the buttstock
I need a cheek rest for my Grandson's 64 precision, I have tried several cheek rests and rings but they are too low of too high for him, he is only 5 but shoots straight just like Gramps! the ones that comes with the B22 precision can be adapted easily, I contacted MDT and Savage but I know is a slim chance even if they have them by the thousands in stock. 😅🤣😂👍
5 is pretty early to start! nice.
I have this rifle with a Riton mod7 5-25x56 and UTG pro mid 34mm mounts. The height looks and feels good with the mid mounts. I believe you have the high mounts.
youre right, i wanted to try them and the high ones were the only ones in stock.
Corey D are you getting scratched bullets when you chamber a round? My bullets have a faint scratch from riding the bolt back and forth. Could possibly cause accuracy issues.
@@raulfernandez9111 when a cci standard velocity is chambered there is no noticeable marks at all. but i have heard a few others saying theirs did scar the round which in 22 would for sure cause accuracy issues.
Corey, nice video I appreciate these honest and thorough reviews. How has this held up / performed in comparison to the Ruger and Tikka since this video? If you grab one to shoot which one do you automatically go for? EDIT: I realize you kind of answer this at the end, but over time I figure your preferences may or may not change. Thanks! Subbed.
thanks for watching. i try to make videos i'd like to watch, no ridiculous intros, watching holes on paper. i would go for the tikka BUT if you're in the market for something send a little more and get a b14r. its the best 22 for the money and i've shot a lot of them.
@@coreyd1474 Thanks for the reply. I will certainly take that into consideration. And yes, your format is something I would lean towards if I did videos since I'm a data hound.
@@andrewb1064 i think its the only way to do it honestly. real results in real world conditions.
@@coreyd1474 Please bear with the long post, but I did a rudimentary Student t-test statistical analysis on your 50 yard data across a few videos. You may find this interesting, but please note some limitations here such as the number of groups making up the averages and not having the exact same ammo between guns make it a bit shaky, but still I've seen worse published in academic journals, lol.
I used data from 4x videos: Modified carbon barrel Bergara (high wind!), the stock carbon barrel Bergara, steel barrel Bergara, and the Savage. I ran these 4 combinations of these variables for calculating the t.tests: 1-tailed distribution, 2-tailed distribution, two-sample equal variance, two-sample unequal variance. Who cares...blahblah...the ONLY significant tests (we will use p
You know what....same story with the Tikka...at 50 yards they all statistically perform pretty much the same. I think they may start differentiating from each other at longer distances (100, 200, 300) and would be a better indication of how they truly stack up against one another and where the $$$ for performance comes into play.
Nice looking 22 but that clip looks like it's from a ww2 concept gun. What's your favorite 22 you own now your collection is growing iv been rilly looking at magnum research or volquartsen but dam that price.
The Tikka the b22 is second
thoughts on Eley Benchrest Precision ammo? or Eley Tenex
Haven't tried tenex yet
Verygood
Thanks for watching!
Awright....., if you're willing to pop $200 - $300 more to improve your endeavors ATS has a barrel tuner that lets you put a brake on after it (retains sight picture).
Eric Cortina JUST released his new barrel tuner (EC tuner V.2), but you'll have to spring for the 1/2 X 28 adapter. Total cost, ~$250 + S/H as of this date 31Aug2022.
thanks for watching!
NRL22 is very popular & PRS has apparently died out where I just moved. Any thoughts about the Savage B22, A22, CZ 45#, Tikka t1x & Bergara? That's what everyone here is running for the $1050 MSRP rifle+scope base class.
In a way I think the concept of NRL22 is self defeating. It's not cheap... These guys are shooting very expensive Lapua, Eley & SK ammo that's as expensive as my 6mm Dasher hand loads at the end of the day LoL! They're just saving on some barrel life.
yea i mean it all really just depends on your budget. you don't have ~1k to spend i'd say go with the savage. because the tikka you're gonna need a chassis. but if you have a little extra but not vudoo money i say buy the tikka.
but yes i agree all these dudes out here in 22NRL shooting 4k vudoos with 12c/round ammo lol but 22 is just pure fun either way
You don’t need the level of precision for NRL22 base class. The targets aren’t that far or small on most matches. CZ, Tikka, or Savage with $7 a box ammo shoots better than most marksman can. The equipment sure helps but not as much as skill. The difference between a Voodoo and a factory Tikka isn’t as much as a 8 mph wind a 100 yards for 22lr.
Have you ever tried a Tennessee ridge runner? $500.22, it’s a shooting machine!
no i have never even heard of those.
Does the b22 have the same extractor set up as the mkii’s?
i'm not 100% sure but probably.
Hey Corey D, I have been looking all over online trying to determine if the trigger color is red or orange. Could you tell me what color yours is? Thanks!
this one appears to be red
@@coreyd1474 Thank you! That is the color I hoped it would be! 👍
The red only comes on the b22 precision. The a22 precision has the silver version (heavier).
The colored trigger blade identifies it as their precision trigger. Mine came factory set @ 1.5 #.
Hey great vids.
This or a Tikka T1x with a bravo stock?
thats a tough one but id say the tikka edges it out slightly. better action.
@@coreyd1474 thanks for the reply. That's a good thing, as I have the T1x - was going to sell and grab the Savage, but think I'll stick with the Bravo and T1 since you have both and do honest reviews!
@@Sisu2280 yea the factory stock on the tikka is trash. once you get rid of that its a very solid shooter.
Could you bless us with a t1x vs B22p video?
yea gonna try to at 100 yards.
Do you have the ammo problem everyone else does ? Where the bolt stratches the ammo
yea but it isn't quite as bad as others i've seen.
Which rifle is your best shooting rifle?
the rifle i just bought got all the ammo testing done probably just to get a video together today. bergara b14r with a carbon fiber barrel. shoots in the .3s at 50 and .4s at 100 yards. its vudoo quality for half the price but if youre on a budget get the b22 or tikka t1x
did you say factory trigger was 11 lbs 9 oz and lighter than you usually like?
lol i did. i meant 1lb 9oz
11 pound trigger pull?..., NOT!
The orange trigger blade designates the trigger as TARGET grade.., and bud it IS!
Put a digital trigger gauge on mine and FROM THE FACTORY it pulled 1.25#. First 5 times I fired it the detonation surprised the s**t out of me! I've been shooting for 53 years and this factory package impressed me more than ANYTHING I've squeezed prior.
Another thing I observed in your setup is the ring height is excessive for the optic's objective bell. This comment came at 1:39 of 14:03. Let's see if I've got anything else to say.......
thanks for watching!
Made in USA or Canada? Beat CZ 457?
you know i'm not real sure where its made to be honest but i had the 457 varmint and this is WAY better. can't speak to the other 457 models though but i'd take it over all of them except the MTR with a threaded barrel and even then i'd need to shoot it first.
@@coreyd1474 Any marking on the gun on the country of origin?
Have you noticed most of your fouling groups are better than your actual groups?
some yes. others no.
Have you had extractor problems?
no but the magazines in these suck
@@coreyd1474 That was another thing I was seeing on reviews about this rifle.
Aquila "supersonic"..., wth does that mean? ALL standard velocity rated .22lr ammo (1050 - 1100 fps) is sonic..., hyper velocity is rated at 1200 -1250 fps. So what is supersonic?
thanks for watching!
I see a resemblance to old Cooey's 22lr. Respect Savage!
its a fantastic gun for the price
Two years later comments on your video, here is why I gave a thumbs down, I didn't you firing the rifle, so showing only a paper target results ok for some guys, I like to see how the shooter shoots are what I need to see; it's all about learning the fundamentals of shooting.
After many viewings of the different videos of different shooters, the intrigue the excitement. I purchased a RAR 18” barrel. The factory trigger is just barely good; the transformation: trigger gone, the bolt handle gone, and the factory-installed base gone. From fifty yards five shots groups: .40”, .60”, .42” average.47 with CCI/SV. At 100 yds, with Norma Tac-22 group size: four rounds @250” fifth-round @.660”. Installed Timney Trigger set @ 1.5 pounds.
thanks for watching!
What is the failure to feed issues the reviewers are showing with the imitation ruger mags? If your going to buy a Ruger clone? Why buy Savage from Canukes?
im not sure what others are seeing about fte but this one wasn't really an issue. only problem i see with the mag is when you chamber a round it marks up the round. in this one it was just slightly but i've seen in others it marks it up a good bit, enough to mess with accuracy.
11 pounds is lighter than you like? What the hell poundage do you prefer?
1 pound 11 ounces lol
Wolf..., .324" should be the minimum as acceptable at 50 yards. Check your action torque, and possibly do a "torque tuning" session.
thanks for watching!
Yo what about cci green tag!!!
greentag tag is way over rated
@@coreyd1474 it groups better than cci standard in my custom 10/22
I do not see how one can justify the price for that rifle. Not much precision if you have to pick and chose whatever your rifle likes best. I have a cheap Savage 64. Groups are about the same at 50 yards with different types of ammo. Best is CCI standard velocity.
i think it's a good rifle for the price. don't like the mags though.
Ever shoot with those guys who claim incredible groups...
Yea they ALWAYS have a bad day that day!
LOLOLOLOL you are EXACTLY right
Unless they got they're good days on video hahaha
You're gonna shoot targets 500yds with a 22?
yep. 500 is as far as i have been able to get with my 22s. MAY be able to get 550 on a good day.
Wow! What kinda groups?
@@jeffreynye3019 was able to get some really good groups out to 300. anything past that was just hitting a regular size silhouette so nothing spectacular but still fun to shoo that far with a 22.
Can you get taller rings? 🙃
i hear your mom sells them so i can probably get them for free.
@@coreyd1474 wow, I never expected that kind of a comment out of a fascist dictator wannabe supporter🙄
Did he say the trigger was 11lbs
1 pound 11 ounces
11lb9oz trigger? Are you high?
i wish....... 1 pound 19oz
I'm not a big fan of any mags on my Savage rifle.
agreed.
I prefer the old single stack mkii mags compared to the b22 mags. It's the only thing that kinda sucks on the B22. But I guess it is a pretty cheap 22
11 pound 9 oz trigger is a bit light for you ? lol
i have strong fingers what can i say lol i'm sure you know what i meant tho, 1 lb 9 oz very nice actually.
Trigger wasn't 11+ #s Maybe 1.1#
how do you know its not 11 pounds?
11lbs trigger?????
1 pound, 11 ounces
11 pound trigger????
1 lb 11 oz
Duh.., there's a reason why competitors shoot with standard velocity ammo. Hint... "transonic effect".
thanks for watching!
FYI ... "flyers" count.
did you not see me "counting" them?
11lb trigger is lighter than you like? You brute you :) 11 ounces
LOL i'm surprised not more people have called me out on that.
We knew what you meant