Tikka T1X MTR Quick Review and Ammo Comparison.
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Tikka T1X in the KRG Bravo Chassis, Primary arms slx6 athena bpr reticle glass. All groups shot at 50 yards.
7:54 Remington Thunderbolt - 3.34 MOA
9:46 Aguila Super Extra - 3.2 MOA
11:04 Eley Force - 2.8 MOA
12:13 Federal Target - 2.64 MOA
13:19 SK Standard - 2.14 MOA
14:27 CCI Standard Velocity - 2.05
15:26 Eley Target - 1.91
16:29 CCI Green Tag - 1.48
Thanks for the time you take to share your valuable information, a true service to the youtube community! ....love your dog too;)
thanks for watching! everyone loves roscoe. finally ordered a suppressor for him LOL
Glad the Tikka worked out for you after the CZ457 fiasco, good information.
yea i really enjoy this rifle, had it to 450 so far with a little dope left. i've also got a christensen arms range on order but they aren't supposed to ship until may-june
Thank you so much for writing the result in description!
definitely helpful.
Just getting into precision rifle shooting with a new Ruger precision rimfire and having a lot of fun playing with different ammo. Can you explain the "fouling" shots you do on the left before shooting for groups? Is that like a quick "break in" for the barrel with that particular load? I haven't been doing anything like that I usually shoot 3x 5 shot groups out of a 15rd mag of one flavor and then change flavors.
yea basically coats the lining of your barrel. from what i've learned doing it more and more it gets fowled out by around 15 shots or so is all you'll need.
Yeah Cory that Tikka was worth giving up the cz 457 for haha. I believe the T1x is my next purchase.. Good video and info man.
Right?! If you have a 452 or 455 keep it. Don't buy a 457 LOL the Tikka really is a joy to shoot
Very nice video really like that build. Don’t take any shlt for a nice optic on a 22. Nothing wrong with good quality glass.
it came together very nice if i do say so myself. You're absolutely right about the glass. normally i spend quite a bit more money on the glass than i do the rifle.
You should always spend a lot more on the optic. I have two t1x rifles, one with steiner m5xi 5-25 and the other m7xi both with spuhr mounts and grs rifle stocks. The 22lr version shoots sub moa at 150 meters, 17hmr sub moa at 200 meters. 22lr 10shot groups, hmr 5 shots.
ok so ive been looking at a used cz455 varmint with 20" fluted barrel, savage b22 precision, ruger rpr, and this rifle all in 22lr. im leaning towards this one as ive never had an accurate ruger rifle, savage shoots amazingly well but stocks suck, options are limited and the action feels to much like a rimfire, the cz is used and i dont like the look of the newer receiver, the Tikka has the best over aesthetics, love the short bolt rise, love the fact it can use the centerfire stocks. down side is i would rather a heavy barrel. of what ive listed what to you think would be the best compromise of form and accuracy. i want accuracy but want a rifle ill enjoy looking at and shooting as well.
as far as performance goes the tikka is great. i have a b22 coming so i should have a video up on that in a few weeks. the only "gripe" aesthetically wise is the pencil barrel looks funny in the krg IMO but you get past that when you start shooting it.
ayy just realized you were running the PA.
Grabbed a 6-24 GLx with Athena to run on my B14r, absolutely love that reticle. First interaction with the GLx series, but i run the PLx 1-8 Griffin Mil on my AR, and PLx 6-30 Athena on my TACA1. Havent even mounted it yet, but quite impressed already. The new turrets are absurdly good for the price, wish they would add them to the PLx line, but im sure thats coming.
PA provides some phenomenal optical value.
i agree. they're priced well below their value.
I have two t1x rifles and if you loosen the trigger as much as you can it will start going off if you run the bolt hard because the spring will not have enough tension to keep the weapon cocked. I spoke with sakos gunsmith and he told me that the trigger is not designed to work under 900g (2lbs). Its possible to get it under but you will start having issues
yea i have the same issue with the accutrigger. so far its been ok for me through roughly 1500 rounds.
Looking at putting my T1X in that same Bravo chassis or an MDT. How do you like the Bravo Chassis?
its great. comfortable and has all the adjustments you'll need to fit MOST people. kinda pricey but its basically a must for that rifle.
Nice setup! The new chassis gives that action what it deserves more than the stock it's shipped with. I looked it up on their website, looks solid especially for the price. Aluminum bedding. If the barrel is free floated I don't see how a bipod would effect accuracy.
the stock its shipped with is absolute trash. they sell them with the idea in mind that everyone is just going to replace them anyway.
@@coreyd1474 I agree, the stock stock (ha) isn't competitive with the rest of the market for its price. I have the Keystone 722 PT and it comes with an AB Arms chassis. The new ones come with a different chassis, I'm assuming made in house.
@@LatestHour those look kinda like an mdt chassis if i recall don't they?
@@coreyd1474 Yes they sure look like it, they changed the butt stock to a Luth-AR and the grip to a TacFire, so I wouldn't be surprised if the chassis is outsourced as well.
I also shoot thousand of rounds a year; I have a range in my backyard. It is my belief "based on my experience" that fouling shots are a waste of ammo. Just look at your own results for proof. Only difference "if any" you might see, after switching ammo are the first 2 shots. BTW, I recognize myself as a nobody but I will identify myself as KISSSOFDEATH on RFC and Snipers Hide. I have watched a few of your videos and enjoy them, keep them coming. It's nice to get a different perspective on guns and ammo.
First of all thanks for watching and the feed back. I think that if you're out plinking and having fun sure a few fouling rounds will do the trick but in my opinion, if i was switching ammo on the day of a match for whatever reason i would give it a solid 20-30 just to be safe before getting my dope data. either way you're still shooting at that's a good day.
I really like my T1x. Awesome lil shooters
Yea I watched your videos on it. Doesn't get any better for the money imo
But you re-barreled your's. What barrel does it have ? How much better are the groups ?
@@JT-py9lv the Tikka? No that's the factory barrel
@@coreyd1474 Sorry, no... West Desert Shooter has a new barrel on his.
@@JT-py9lv ah gotcha. I didn't think there was many aftermarket offerings for these barrels yet. Mostly because it's so damn good. I read somewhere that proof wasn't going to make one at all
Looks like the Tikka likes the Green Tag. What has been your best LONG RANGE 22LR ammo?
Try sk long range match, eley sport or match, lapua polar biathlon.
eley force has been the best for me out of the rugers, the tikka does well with cci std vel. i didn't want to waste any center x when we had it out to 455 but i'm sure it would have been spot on.
Have to agree the Tikka triggers are absolutely the best(even close to the price range) out of the box ive come across. Saw absolutely zero reason to change my CTR or TACA1 triggers out for anything, other than adding a yodave spring.
yep i put a spring kit in it and even then it wasn't a ton better. they're very good. i have a t3x tac a1 and its as good if not better than most aftermarket triggers.
Great video. I’d still like to see what you can do with it when shooting off of a good front rest and rear bag. Not that bipods aren’t good, but I’ve always gotten smaller groups that way. Anyway, I’m pleased that you’re happy with it. Other than some people reporting FTE issues, reviews on this rifle are very good.
Yea next time I'm able to get out and shoot I'll put it on a front bag. So good so far except like you said a few FTE.
Corey D , many really good bolt action rimfire rifle take a very deliberate movement to eject reliably. Not an issue, once you get used to it. I almost got that rifle before I got my 457 Varmint. I’m happy it’s shooting well for you after your last experience.
@@lucabrasi5070 yea I'll get it down after some more trigger time. How's your 457 shoot
Corey D just under (.9) MOA at 50 yards. A really good gunsmith at my rifle club has it now for glass bedding and to clean up the crown. He’s doing it for $125. Couldn’t pass up the opportunity. Hoping to be at around 1/2 inch at 50 yards after that. We shall see.
@@lucabrasi5070 consistently half in would be about as good as it gets that would be awesome
I have almost the same setup with the chassis and bipod. I had the area 419 rail and replaced it with a dip rail. I had tons of malfunctions with ejections because the 419 rail lacks a cutout over the chamber. Changed the rail and it’s perfect. I think the Cz rail that area 419 has a notch over the chamber. Not sure why they didn’t do that with the tikka.
yea thats odd. never heard that one before. only time i ever had issues with extraction is when the extraction "spring" started to fail. very poor system.
Can you buy the Tikka T1x parts only without the stock? I'd hate to waste the one it comes with if I want to use the aftermarket product.
i do not believe so.
My Tikka T1x shoots the best with SK Rifle Match at 50 meters. 10mm cc groups. 54.7 yards and 0.4 inches.
thats good. i know a lot of the cz guys shoot that ammo well. the bergara b14r i just got done testing shot it well also.
Fun to watch a second time. Lol. Love 22 rifles.
me too. love em all.
Have you check the savage b22 precision? It's in a mdt chassis!!
yea i've seen it. always watched 22 plinksters review on it. personally i think its butt ugly but if it shoots well i could get past that. i've got a christensen arms ranger 22 on order though.
I've been shooting a Tikka T1x completely stock with a Sightron 36x42 scope on it and at 50 yards I've found everything that I've tried is .50 or less groups and several give me consistent 1" groups at 100 yards . Been thinking about a KRG stock but I don't think for me its worth it.
they do shoot well for sure i just wish they had a better extracting system. the krg not only looks better it feels much better but i get it they're expensive.
@@coreyd1474 after much desire to get my hands on Tikka T1X (20” barrel) two weeks later, I head to the shooting range also T1X cost me $649. I inspected the magazines, and they're very good. It is not like some reviewers say about the T1X magazines being cheap and the rifle stock too. Turn to the stock: it is the same as my Tikka T3 in 300 WSM (15-year-old rifle), not a cheap stock! I did a transformation: recoil pad, cheek riser, grip angle, and forend grip, and I set the trigger to 1.5 pounds; excellent trigger. Now the only thing that I found was bolt lift some difficulty. Another reviewer felt that because of the short throw bolt handle, is the why, for the difficult lift. I will not go into the shooting session group size, this is about the quality of Tikka T1X overall. Excellent 22LR rifle at its price point. I am 71, a Vietnam vet with a whole list of physical problems, there is nothing to complain about, the Tikka T1X.
@@rudolphferdinand3634 whats the vet part got to do with the rifle?
How would this chassis work for off hand paper target shooting at 30 yards?
probably fine. its comfy and light
I like the stock 👍
its comfy. its light and feels a bit cheap but it isn't cheap.
So your cz was in a wood stock from factory. Tikka stock sucked. Didn’t even shoot in it. Laid it in a $500 stock and it’s not really a $500 gun anymore right? I love the videos but I’m just trying to figure out which one to get. They both would look great in a KRG bravo. Cz chassis just came out as well.
yea the tikka factory stock sucks. the cz one is OK. when i had the cz bravo hadn't came out with a chassis to fit it yet but would definitely recommend. the tikka is overall better. action/trigger/accuracy.
What scope it that? Looking at getting one
Primary arms slx6 3-18x50 Athena bpr mil reticle
Should do a review of just the stock since it's new
you should
At the end of the day, CZ 457 vs T1X, which do you prefer?
tikka hands down, its not even a fair comparison.
@@coreyd1474 thanks for you feedback
@@TheBrewer3535 any time man, love chattin about guns n shit
That’s great , I’m glad you like TikkA T1x over the cz 457!!! I like cz older rim rifle, their cz 452 is awesome, of course discontinued, sad!
CZ all day long
Look around and see if you can find Fed ultra match ammo. Very pricey but I have a couple of rifles that will shoot 1/4" at 50 yds with it. Does give some serious bragging groups.
is that the stuff thats like 25/box?
@@coreyd1474 last I bought was 13 a box but it is some of the most accurate US made ammo available. Downfall is its hard to find.
@@jamestboehm6450 alright i'll have to keep an eye out for it. 13/box is more than center x
@@coreyd1474 be glad you don't shoot competition. I have one box of fed Olympic ammo from the 90s. Priceless to me and not for shootin.
@@jamestboehm6450 Federal Ultra Match is, I believe, made in Germany
Should get a V22 and review that beast!
you donate it and i'll be more than happy to put it through its paces LOL
Ya. Real accurate
ya. accurate
👍👍👍
(THUMBS UP)
Awesome 👌video
thanks for watching.
Try Eley Action ammo, 1/2 " or less in my Tikka and it's not expensive.
yea i should give that a shot.
Are you using l2 compsite rail for the bipod ?
not sure who makes it i think its just a generic rail piece i had not on anything.
@@coreyd1474 I've asked did you fit the L2 composite rail which comes in the KRG BRAVO standard kit?😁
@@MariuszNmntechcom Its been quite some time since i've had it but i don't think mine came with any rail sections.
I’d ditch a gun that doesn’t shoot MOA. My factory stock CZ 457 shoots .8 MOA all day long. Definitely looking forward to that KRG Bravo showing up at my front door tho...
they''re nice for sure
My factory t1x was shooting .5” groups at 100yds with eley tenex. Was very surprised how well it shot. Really thinking about getting the bravo but not sure if it’s worth it.
What barrel length is your Tikka?
18 inches.
Saiko is a watch, sako (sock-o) is the parent company of tikka with both sako/tikka being owned by beretta.
No SEIKO is a watch company. SAIKO is a Chilean rock band.
gold jacket green jacket who gives a shit
If you could only buy one would it be a t1x, rpr, or 457?
Tikka hands down
How do you like this compared to the RPR?
Well after roughly 1500 rounds through it I had the rprf to shoot a few weeks ago and it felt like the biggest piece of trash I ever ahot if I'm honest. BUT the rprf shoots well out of the box I put this in a chassis. So depends on how much you want to spend I guess. Tikka>rprf all things considered
@@coreyd1474 thanks!
The RPRR rifle is a piece of trash. I picked one up about 2 months ago, as it was supposed to be some sort of great little rifle. It was probably the worst machined firearm I've ever seen. (...and I've almost everything) The bolt and receiver are cut so poorly that there a striations in the metal. They amount of work I had to do on the rifle, just to get it to be shootable was a total surprise. The trigger also leaves alot to be desired. To that point that you'll find yourself buying a Timney replacement, pretty much because you have to. On the flip side, the Tikka T1X is so well machined it's almost hard to believe.
@@garybirtcher4967 yea and its hard to get yourself to spend 250 dollars on a trigger on a 350 dollar rifle but yea. glad i got the tikka.
Have you tried elly benchmark
i have. eley has not performed well, im not sure if its the new lots or what but all types of eley i have got a TON of FTF. even with 10x.
Tikka vs Bergara ....?????. 22lr
bergara no contest.
When i shoot i usually wait 5 mins between rounds.. i see generally 30% better groups. Those look like 10-22 groups. The trigger should break without you knowing it...
5 minutes between rounds? So it takes you all day for a range session? Seems a little extreme to me
@@coreyd1474 i dont go to my range just to get it over with, when im working up best loads for center fire, or trying to get the best posible groups on anything thats what i do. Nice and slow. My best shooting gun is a Ruger ss m77 .223 with a sporter barrel its very best or my pb
.370 @ 350 yds (my max range) it out shoots both my 22-250's by a right smart,
But you cant do that firing them as fast as you can. I have 3 10-22's i can get 1 5/8" group 5 @ 50 out of 1 of them most under 1", with just bedding and trigger work When im working up hunting loads i do the same slow and easy, i take all day for a range session whether i shoot 50 rounds or 250.. if I'm shooting for the best possible i take my time, if you are impatient do what ever you want. Some times i just sit down and fire 10 rounds down range, just for the heck of it but rarely. Hey I'm just giving you some info. Those groups look good for a gun like a good stock 10-22 but thats jmo but if you like 'em its ok. A couple of them were ok In my book. Try slowing down one time see if its better, but if you don't have the time i understand. Most of the time i take 5 or more guns to shoot, hand guns too. i also like shooting black powder, that will slow you down. Just trying to help you get better groups.
Rpr vs T1x please
Don't boss me around Boomer
at 11:15 Eley Force average is 1.8, not 2.8.
thanks for the correction
Weight as as it sits?
not sure exactly but its light
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thanks for watching!
Lol my 10/22 brought it home put Hunter X stock, Kidd barrel on it. I Don't even know what the factory stuff shoots like.
factory? what's factory?
@@coreyd1474 factory barrel and stock
KRG Bravo or MTR XRS for t1x?
IMO that mtr is pretty ugly but i've never held one so its hard for me to say. the krg is nice but feels cheap to me.
Average on the Eley Force is 1.78 not 2.80.
math is a struggle for me LOL thanks for correcting me
I watched your review and accuracy testing of the CZ 457 Varmint and then this review and I'm confused. When you were going over the CZ targets and ammo, you kept saying how disappointed your were at having dished out $500, and expected better results. Yet, when you tested the Tikka, you shot consistently larger groups and said how you expected the group sizes you were getting for a $500 gun? You shot Federal white box and had an average 1.44", Eley Force for 1.37" with a 0.96" group, and SK Standard for a 1.2" average with a nice 0.86" group...all with the CZ. Your Tikka was shooting a good 1" larger but you liked it? From your own testing the CZ shot rings around the Tikka, and yet you trashed the CZ and praised the Tikka? Wassup whidat???
no. if you heard me say i did not double the moa rating that ballistic x app was putting out. since .5 inch at 50 with 22 is considered MOA ballistic x doesn't take this in to account so i wrote down the info it was telling me and forgot to double it.
@@coreyd1474 yeah, my bad. I watched your video again and heard you mentioning having to double...I had thought it was built in to the app...consider me not confused any more. Thanks! And I did enjoy your video; have them bookmarked now...
@@lelandhigaki2460 yea man i just started measuring them center to center with calipers just gets annoying and way too time consuming to use the app. much easier that way and gives a better representation of the groups IMO.
@@coreyd1474 Not trying to be flip here, but 1 MOA at 50 yds is 1/2" (0.5235" to be precise) regardless of caliber... Right? Maybe I'm confused too..... I dunno. The groups in this test (vs the 457) were tighter. The very consistent "single flyer" would seem to be a concern. As others have said, maybe a better rest would be the ticket. Overall, I know you said you were happy, but is it unreasonable to expect this gun to consistently shoot one hole groups at 50 yds, at least with better ammo?
@@stevewheeler8640 i dunno man. in my humble opinion half inch is pretty tough to achieve consistently at 50 yards. i mean the slightest wind its off. i know everyone in the comment section their gun shoots 1/8th inch group at 100 yards blah blah blah. if i have a 22 that consistently shoots 3/4 and under i'm happy. also side note. people are VERY passionate about 22 LR lol
Man that is crap, my t1x shoots sub moa 10 shot groups at 50 meters (1.5cm) with pretty much anything. But when you stretch out to 100 meters, only for me eley, sk long range match and lapua polar biathlon can hold consistent 1moa 10 shot groups.
no it doesn't
I do not understand why this "reviewers" insist in shooting crap cheap ammo to test a match caliber rifle. Rifles that claim to be of first quality should be tested with match ammo only, which is the only way to have a meaningful test. Other cheap plinking rifles you can shoot whatever and go hunt squirrels with it so who cares. Trying to shoot a match rifle with other than match ammo is stupid. I put ten rounds in 1/4" with Eley, SK, RWS and Lapua match ammo brands with my Anchutz M1913 Super Match at 50 meters and less than an one inch at 100 yards; using lesser ammo gets lesser results. If you shoot a plinker, again, who cares what cheap brand you use.
@@coreyd1474sorry but it does.
I see that this comment was made 2 years ago but I think there's an important clarification that should be made based on your comment. The Tikka t1x is not a match chambered rifle. When CZ puts MTR on their rifle it means Match target rifle, but with Tikka, MTR means Multi Task Rifle. It has a sporter chamber, not a match, which will lower its top end potential a little bit, but should also make it less sensitive to budget ammunition.
Again, sorry for necrobumping your post, but im shopping for a .22 bolt rifle and I figured someone else may be in the same boat.
Since it’s been necrobumped anyway, I just got a t1x and it’ll shoot Sun moa at 50m with decent ammo. I think it’s about .8 Moa with eley contact, which seems to be its favourite. Out at 100m plus, I can’t say it holds a 1moa average. Moa at 100m is 1.143 and I mostly get sub 2 inch groups with occasional groups down to one inch. At 200m I can usually ding a 6 inch metal target in zero wind.I have mine in Cadex chassis with a vortex diamondback 24x scope.
Glass bed that rifle. Please😮
you'd have to tell that to whoever the current owner is.
ACDC THUNDER
thanks for watching!
" It shoots as you would expect a $500 .22 to shoot." Well shit, considering you put it in a $370 chassis, I would sure as hell hope so! Throw it back in the shitty factory stock and see how much it changes.
ew no. i'm putting that thing away and never looking at it again lol
factory stock shoots just as well. it's just not fancy. good for a hunting gun but definitely lacks features for match/precision shooting
My man, the expression is “one ragged hole” not one jagged hole.
potatoe potatoe
Everyone shoots groups at 50 yards and claims sub MOA truth is rifles shoot much different at 100 if you really want to the potential of your rifle shoot it at 100 yards
agree. i start at 50 to narrow down what it likes best then go to 100
Thats odd, my t1x shot better then that at 100m.
At 50m it was five shots in one hole.
mhm. everyone always says that
@@coreyd1474 Getting my new t1x next weekend, ill report back after shooting some different ammo through it.
@@snajjpern good luck. really is a good gun.
Why don't you just measure the actual center to center distance on your groups ? Most people do. Many of your groups would be 1/2 inch which is quite good.
Yea I'm gonna do that from now on. Takes waaaaayy go long to use ballistic x anyway
It is not too hard to measure outside to outside
Then
Subtract 1/2 of the caliber
I do it automatically
@@sofjanmustopoh7232 did that in part 2
@@sofjanmustopoh7232 Surely measure outside to outside and subtract a whole calibre for centre to centre
Rik O'shea yep
Sako= sounds like Tako. Or at least that's how the Finns pronounce it!
if i had a dollar for every grammar nazi that commented on how i say a name i'd have enough money to not make videos for grammar nazi's to not comment on.
@@coreyd1474 use that money to learn some grammar then!
@@wmharris9084 every time I get a mindless comments i always look at the channel before I reply and I'm glad I do. have a good day sir or whatever your pronouns are
One excuse for a flyer ie no more😂😂😂
gotta have excuses right!
@@coreyd1474 I'm much older, sun was in my eyes, and there was a lot of wind. :-)
@@latisimusd mirage was heavy LOL
CZ 457 IS A WAY BETTER RIFLE.
fact checkers on youtube determined this information to be false.
You buy a good gun and feed it a diet of Rubbish Ammo, your gun does not compliment the good stuff though! Eley Should have been much better, I feel you need help, ask some of the old guys at the range for help, you are doing something wrong!
thanks for watching!
Bobby has a gay porno stuck in his VCR !!!!!
Don't waste our time with that junk ammo
i'll do better for you.