Tikka T1X 17 HMR Review | Accuracy
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- This is my overview and review of the Tikka T1X MTR in 17 HMR. I do some accuracy testing, discuss the good and the bad, as well as some changes that I've made.
The groupings were 5 shot groups with:
Federal Premium V-Shok - 17gr
Hornady XTP - 20 gr
Hornady VMAX - 17 gr
CCI VMAX - 17 gr
Chassis - KRG Bravo
Optic - SWFA SS 16x42
Rings - Warne
Bolt Knob - Dragon Scale Short from Anarchy Outdoors
Bipod - BT46-LW17 PSR Atlas Bipod
Wrapped with Multicam "Camo Form"
Love the review bud! That setup looks killer!
I honestly don’t understand how your channel hasn’t blown up. Great content, good editing, audio, lighting. Your doing everything right. The only thing I can think is your quantity. We need more videos from you sir.
Agreed. My guess is that the CZcams overlords have decided the evil gun channels shall not be shared.
Agreed as well.
Needs more boobs in the thumbs to grow.
Accuracy at 50 yards? Give me a break, spare me the good editing, audio, lighting and other details, just show me the 5-shot groupings at 100 yards. 17hmr goes flat up to 125 yards, so a full test should cover 100/125/150/200 yard accuracy.
Maybe it’s his D+ version of Jim Carrey with facial exaggerations and horrific accents. We’ll just ignore traveling out to a 9,000 square mile desert to send the HMR out to 50 yards. Might as well take the Red Rider to Knob Creek.
Outstanding reporting and video quality! Even drone shots! I love Tikka but thanks for the warning about the magazines. They need to fix that serious flaw.
Thanks for the great video. Ordered one up. Going with the green chassis.
You're on your way to 100k subs. I subscribed after 2 minutes of the first video I watched of yours. Keep it up!
Put in a lot of work. I enjoy the Grind
Thank you. Trying to put out quality for you guys. 🤙
I LOVE the video's style!
Nice, I enjoyed your review you have a new subscriber
How convenient this was posting as I look at buying one.
Yes mine loves Eley Club ammo and it is fantastic.
Great vid, cheers mate 👍🏻
That is such a baller set up for a rim fire also best scope for the money hands down
Thanks mang. I agree, I've been super happy with SWFA.
Why didn’t you go with the cz457 with the barrel swap option?
You’re fun to watch man! Great review! Please keep the videos coming! Looks like familiar territory where you shoot;)
This guy is bad ass! Love the review!
Nice rifle on range and hunting pidgeon and fox rabbid!!.. greetings from Finland!!😉
Still tweaking my T1X 17. I have a Nikon 4x12 on it with Warne rings but looking at a rail or Talley rings. Overall, its a winner.
Agreed. I've been loving it.
good review, thanks .. I own both T1Xs (22LR and 17HMR).. both in factory std MTR stocks ... the hummer will shoot head to head as-is vs my Anshutz 1517AV at 100 yards, (not shabby), but the 22LR falls a tad behind my CZ 457 MTR @ 50 yards.. so..I now have a KRG Bravo enroute, due next week, and will see if that T1X can catch up to my CZ457 and/or my Annie 1416AV.. nice that the Bravo will fit both the 22LR and 17HMR Tikkas if the temptation should ever arise.. I run Bushnell Nitro 6-24X 50mm scopes on all these.. have had no issues with mags whatsoever on either rifle..but I shoot off-bench not off-dirt.. you might could consider do-as-i-do.. I carry a T1X single shot adapter... same ONE adapter works just fine in both calibers, so no need for more than just one.. and unless you feel the need for speed, not really much merit in wasted motion loading mags nohow.. certainly doesn't hurt to have one in pocket, just in case you do run into mag issues
I have to get 1 and set it up similar !!!
I have T1X 17hmr in std form using a sak moderator. Sights are vortex crossfire 4-12x40AO on sportsmatch mounts. I use hornady v-,max 17g and CCI A 17 17g varmint tip (2650 fps) Never had any magazine problems. I use this set up here in Scotland for fox crows rabbits and the occasional hare out to 150yds with outstanding results. Love this calibre.
I do too. It’s a great caliber. Cheers! Never been to Scotland but it’s on my list.
More vids, good (real life ) presentation style. BTW, just brought home a T1X this afternoon
Damn, sweet
Hey, you mentioned in the video that you happened to shoot suppressed. What suppressor were you using by chance? And do you happen to know the decibel difference with it?
I shoot an Omega 300. I don't have a decibel meter but it's significantly quieter. I get a ringing from the sharp crack of the 17 HMR unsuppressed. Suppressed it sounds similar to CCI standard velocity out of a 22lr.
I agree the only problem with the tikka 17 is the magazine. Struggled with the one that came in the box for a year. I found a replacement one at cal ranch and after aprox 100 rounds today I had my first misfire due to the magazine.
Have not had the magazine feeding issues that you talked about. Wonder if a little silicone lube/spray might help.It is the easiest magazine to feed that I've had, compared to Browning T-bolt and Savage A-17. The Tikka is by far my favorite over those other two
Good tip, I'll try it.
I believe it is the result of a weak spring. The bullets don't get hung up persay they just aren't lifted.....
It’s like if ace venture John cena and Lucas Botkin morphed into you
What is like that? And who is Ace Venture?
@@guslulou8428 I think I was trying to say Ace Ventura. I forgot
I like the way it was filmed and maybe a thumbs up if less goofy which made it hard to watch.
Would you be so nice and tell me the Barrel diameter at the muzzle and the Length of the Threads of the T1x?
Thanks!!
So try sand paperin the inside of the mag or the feeder. Or stiffer spring. Mod the spring? We had issues in the army with worn springs or when shooting lot of blanks with the breaker in the front you had shit inside the mag and they needet to be opened and cleaned.
And I just applied for a license for the same gun and was thinking of gettin the the krg stock in Sako green. We had the Sako TRG42 in .338 Lapua magnum in the army.
Great video , my mtr 22 does something similar. I have found if I assertively put the mag in with the bolt open that eliminates it .
I’ll try it man. Thanks.
Getting te same results with my savage a17 shooting Hornady vmax. Never buying Hornady vmax from now on. Sticking to CCI for my A17.
Do you have a complete weight on the rifle/optic/bravo? I’m considering similar set up but I’ll be carrying it around a decent amount. I’m used to lugging around a fairly hefty 10/22 build already but I don’t want to push the weight above the 10/22.
It’s fairly heavy. Optic and all its 8lbs 13oz.
Could it be the wax on the bullets that makes the mags fail? If it builds up and jams the feeding..
That can happen. It happens all the time with Eley out of my 10/22. The .17 HMR's are not wax coated however, they are jacketed.
@@PrincipleCaliber I have never yet (in 50 years) seen any rimfire box and/or rotary mag that did not sometimes have such issues IF/WHEN loaded to max capacity, though Browning typically does better than most.. and I own multiple rimfire rifles (Savage, Anshutz, Tikka, CZ, Steyr, Marlin, Browning, Ruger, TCR22) .. my habit is to load em only half full, eliminates 95% of problems.. if I wanted to shoot for noise, speed, and quantity, I would just shoot semi-auto jammomatics.. if you ever buy/try a TC/R22, buy a couple of Ruger rotary mags and use the TCR22 factory mag for a target, it is worthless for anything else... but 10/22s R 4 kids (including that TC/R22)... me, I prefer to actually hit what I aim at, LOL
Where did you purchase the stock to upgrade? I can’t find one online and the T1X UPR only appears available in Canada.
Hey; go to Anarchy Outdoors and search the KRG Bravo Chassis. It's in stock there; no affiliation. I'm finding a lot of platforms out of stock and have been for a long time. I usually enter the UPC from the manufacturer on "gundeals" and they can give you in stock notifications from multiple sellers.
Love your channel! Your videos are super cool. Would be great to see more content. What happened to your IG?
Magazine problems are due to no lube. They do need some lubrication. Silicon spray works great.
What was the exact bolt handle you bought from anarchy . Thanks
It's the "Tikka T1X Threaded Adjustable Bolt Handle Upgrade" with the "Aluminum Dragonscale Black Short" handle.
Video quality shows & I like most of your presentation. Show a bit more of you WITH the equipment & your content will be as rock solid as anyone on the tube. You've earned my sub BUT don't mess around too much with that "Alrighty then" bs...a few quick jokes or jabs per video, lock it down! Good job.
Thanks for the feedback, this one is a bit "talking headish" without the rifle.
@@PrincipleCaliber You're welcome, looking forward to more.
Can I copy this build? Love this setup!
I subscribed immediately after hearing the choice in music
Who is it ?
Thanks
Nice.
Can you imagine that gun in a 17 hornet center-fire ? Oh well, I guess the 223 is just too dominate and 17wsm or the other small bore centerfires will just fade away , save for the 204 Ruger, which is another class with the 223 , just very expensive to shoot.
What is the overall Length you have on this?
What torque settings did you use for action to chassis? 25in/lbs or…
What a great question. Would like to know for my self.
I got the same setup here in 🇨🇦. I went with what krg specs say you shud @ 60 inch lbs. Works really good!
They say there will be a left handed version. But I haven’t seen one yet
Yeah, I was surprised they didn't launch a lefty as well.
they are just hitting the market now, I just seen one yesterday at our local gun store.
I just got mine a couple of days ago! only the 17hmr 20" barrel was available. EuroOptic has them still.
What scope is on the gun?
SWFA SS 10x42
Are you left eye dominant? Whats with the patch? Tell Thug Rose I say High.
I'm right eye dominant. I throw it on when I'm testing groups. It helps with eye fatigue if I'm out there for awhile.
Good stuff !!!! LOL
Aren't pigs way too big for the 17 hmr or was that a joke cuz by no means would I ever thought about shooting a pig with anything weaker than 5.56 or 300 Blk other than that love ur video great review and editing is on point
Thanks! We call em pigs out here in the NW; but they are actually ground squirrels. I wouldn't shoot a boar with this guy.
Depending where your shoot the pig and how far you far you can even use a 22. Under the ear 17 hmr will knock it down for sure
People shoot pigs in Texas with .22 break action pellet guns.A well placed shot can drop anything..Been shooting .17hmr since it came out and have replaced my .22s for life.You should be able to head shoot anything within 100-150 yards depending on wind conditions.These little bullets really pack a punch with pinpoint accuracy.Shooting a red squirrel in the head at a 125 is well within the abilities of this little round.
it all depends on how big your pig, LOL.. whistle pigs, yes.. 350# south Georgia pit bull killer hawgs, no
What suppressor are you using ?
Omega 300
What sneaky tricks did you use to get the bolt handle off. With my enormous muscles, I'm afraid I'm going to break something.
I just gripped with the force of 1000 suns and twisted.
CZ .17 for me 20” Heavy Barrel
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What stock is that??
22lr will reach further than 17hmr it just drops more sooner. 17hmr falls off once it goes transonic around 250yds though and you can lob 22lr a bit further if you've the gear/skills.
17hmr is a great Lazer gun 50-200yds for those that don't want to worry about reading wind or range though. Same folk will transition to a bigger cartridge much past 200 anyway. Just saying it can be done and if you get good at squirrels with rims at the 300yd line you'll be a damn good shooter behind a centerfire at proper long ranges.
Thanks for the review. Tikka better fix that mag issue. Like the cheap T3 mags, they need to put a little more thought into their products. Hey Ruger came up with the ultimate magazine design in their 10-22 dang near 56 years ago. Tikka should be able to rival that with todays technological advancements. Not seeing it happen though.. Its a shame too. You'd think those engineers would be smarter than that...
My 10/22 is bulletproof. I also have a TCR22 and that thing is amazing. By far my favorite .22lr. Thanks for watching!
@@PrincipleCaliber when it comes to rimfire ROTARY mags Browning and Ruger got it right...best-in-class... but my TC/R22 factory mag (NOT made by Ruger) never made it thru my 1st range session, plastic trash.. mebbe just my lousy luck, but that TC/R22 lite carbon fiber barrel was a real disappointment to me.. I have a Savage Rascal (kids rifle) that will easily outscore that TCR22.. if that is S&W "Performance Center" quality, I sure would hate to see non-Performance Center quality.. (and I am a huge fan of S&W *revolvers*).. bad luck I guess ...
Mags are swelling in / with the heat imo
I’ve always been curious about the 17 HMR - it’s always seemed like a solution looking for a problem. I get the energy and speed advantages over 22 LR inside 100 yards but, from everything I’ve seen and heard from others, the 17 HMR seems to underperform the 22 LR beyond its supersonic range. Factor in the much higher cost, much lower availability and much less diversity of ammunition and the math on the 17 HMR just doesn’t add up for me. I love the Tikka T1X and the KRG Bravo looks great but I think I’ll pass on the 17 HMR version.
I have never heard of a 17 HMR under performing, I have three of them in matching guns with 22 lr.
In all 3 case's the 17's out shoot the 22's at every distance out to 100. Where you notice the big difference is when you shoot gophers or groundhogs, the prairie dogs never run down the whole after being shot with a 17 HMR.
@@Wheelchair-bear it sounds like you’re agreeing with me. Inside 100 yards the 17 HMR is fast, reasonably accurate, flat shooting and has good terminal performance. But what happens to the 17 HMR when it transitions back to subsonic? If all your shooting is inside 100 yards and you can find (and afford) the ammo, you’re good to go! However, past its supersonic range, the 17 HMR seems to fall apart. The 22LR may give up a little to the 17 HMR inside 100 yards (although not much) but seems to more than make up for it out at distance.
@@nbonner75 Yeah I can't really argue with you because I don't shoot my rim fires past 200 yards. In my experience the grouping at 200 yards is also much better with the 17 HMR, I'm not a good enough shot to venture out past 200 yards with a rimfires. I believe the 17 HMR 17grn is still super sonic at 200 yards. It will still kill a gopher at 200 yards, whereas if you're lucky enough to hit one with the 22LR at 200 yards you probably wouldn't know if you did hit it or not.
@@Wheelchair-bear the army’s standard test for lethality on humans is the ability of a projectile to penetrate a 1/2” sheet of plywood. The 22 LR does this consistently out to 500 yards. The trajectory of the 22 LR at those ranges is about that of a mortar round so knowing the exact range and wind conditions is essential to achieving consistent first round hits. But it can be done by a skilled marksman whose taken the time to train and document his firing solutions. Using decent ammo (Eley, Norma, SK, Lapua, etc.) I can easily hold sub-MOA groups with my CZ 457 out past 300 yards (certainly tight enough for all but the smallest of chipmunks).
For the average joe just exterminating varmints in the garden or chicken yard the 17 HMR is probably a little more forgiving of a poor range estimation or a bad wind call. And, as you pointed out, the terminal ballistics of the 17 HMR are impressive (for its size) within its supersonic range.
As someone who shoots a lot of rounds per month, the 17 HMR’s cost per round doesn’t make sense and availability right now is pretty poor, too. The niche it fills for the cost just doesn’t justify me adding one to my collection. Especially when the 22 LR can cover all the same territory plus remain stable/accurate well beyond the reach of the 17 HRM.
@@nbonner75 I definitely can't argue with you and there's obviously several reasons why there are no long range 17HMR competition.
Shooting Gophers at 150 yards versus long range rimfire shooting are two very different species. I'm quite interested in the Optics and rail you would use for shooting 22LR at 500 yards. Do you have any video links?
What stock is this?
It’s a KRG Bravo. They make awesome stuff.
We shoot pigs in the same area, gotta love piggin in Idaho, 17 hmr and whistle pigs = hella fun!
Definitely one of my favorite times of the year. And definitely no shortage of pigs here in the NW.
To skip all the B- Roll & bull shit, go to 2:45.
My guy!! Just just checking in on you. Looks like your account isn’t on IG anymore. Give me a shout
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What's up! I didn't know you had a CZcams. Great content man, I enjoyed your VLog. I didn't see an e-mail link on your page. I have one in my "About"; hit me up man!
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Why would you shoot at 50? Anything shoots good at 50.
Edit. Ive never had issues with my t1x mags in 22lr or even less with the hmr. Betting your issues are user caused.
I prefer to test rimfires for accuracy at 50. Glad you haven't had issues with yours.
@@PrincipleCaliber Personally I test everything at 100 meters. Ive found out that with rimmies as well you only start getting a feel for the rifles true performance at 100 meters and especially performance differences between ammo brands. Since the hmr trajectory so closely resembles 308 up to 150 meters for me it feels like a waste to shoot it at 50 for accuracy testing. But stick to what ever works for you
17 gets pushed around by the wind a lot more than a 308 at 100 yds. But there is no comparing 17 to 308. We've got a lot of wind out here in the northwest, so 50 yards is a decent range to showcase the rifles performance with a variety of ammunitions.
@@PrincipleCaliber Ive taken a hooded crow and jack daw at 175 meters with my hmr so I understand the caliber pretty well.
But now I see your reason for shooting 50. When I test any of my rifles accuracy I wait for a calm morning or afternoon to do the testing. Also like to zero my rifles in the calmest possible weather of course.
I’d have to agree with grouping a .17hmr at 100y in calm conditions...my own cz455 would cloverleaf at worst 17gr hornady vmax at 50y depending on hornady batch number as in a google batch will single hole and a bad one would cloverleaf.Usually only around 90-100 will you truly see how a particular hmr likes the Ammo
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Informative, precise and beneficial. Your shooting form is excellent. Presentation shows your intelligent, well prepared and did your research. But your display of arrogance is over the top! Cute is what you get from insecure individuals. As an outdoorsman, conservationist, hunter and a Disabled Combat Veteran and alive for 75 years I see you hav e allot of good years ahead of you. Respect yourself don’t act like a ”Smart Ass”!
Guy lost his eye 3 mins into video wow
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This would have been a good video if it wasn't for all the obnoxious comments every 5 seconds.
Yeah...it's a bit cringy.
Nice looking gay man!
Jesus fuck. This was frustrating to watch.
Cringy af bro.
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