22LR vs 17 HMR vs 22 MAG: Never Would’ve Guessed
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Always had a soft spot for thw 22 Mag. Can't shake it
This has been a good demonstration for why we need to use the barrel length, the bullet weight and the bullet speed to calculate the foot lbs. of force from a cartridge.
For the price, why not just go 5.56 military surplus ammo?
Same. Especially with a hornady vmax
Idk why I have the same feeling man, can relate 100%
Yep, same here. Got a rifle and a Smith model 48. Great stuff.
Awesome video! I myself am a 17HMR guy and have a good buddy who shoots 22mag and we find them very comparable in most real world applications.
No they are not comparable, the 22 mag will never shoot with a 17 HMR
@@MrCobb-rq8ivSure it will, just add a 5 mph cross wind. Both have their uses, when times got tight during the ammo shortage, could always find 17 HMR, have put a bunch through my Savage.
Uytff
Would be interested in what the 5mm mag rimfire would do
Truly a really fun video. 22 mag for shorter distances. 17 for longer. Bit flatter trajectory.
I know when I was a kid I seen my dad shoot a red fox at about 100 yards with a 22 magnum and it took its lower jaw off and I know this because I seen it first hand, i have never shot a 17 hmr so i will not knock that round at all.
I'd agree. However if I was in the field and I'd only be carrying one it'd be the .17 HMR due to that flatter trejectory and ability to reach further out and touch the varmits. The only downside IMHO is if you've got a bit of wind the mass of the 22 mag would have less drift. The compromise would be to have one with swapable barrels, however that would not be ideal to do in the field.
Exactly spot on.
@@PaulAtreidesMuadDib Agree 100%. The .17 will be affected more by crosswind.
Growing up in the hills of the Appalachian mountains, a 12 gauge and .22lr were the only two long guns needed. Oh, and did I mention that everywhere had those two for sale?
To hillbillies everything else is just a "niche" round. 😆
Yep, Country boys learn young that you can take a heck of a lot more food home with a little bullet placed properly than with a big bullet placed poorly.
Hell yeah!! Appalachian and Allegheny Mountain raised!! Hunted with both ,a Marlin 22WMR bolt action,and a 12 gauge Remington 870. (Had a Marlin 36 30-30 in the gun rack) For what we hunted that's all the gun we ever needed
I agree but now you get a combo gun. 30-60/12 gauge for deer/quail or the ultimate squirrel gun 22 mag/410 over unders. Yrs ago you could get a "drilling" but their not made anymore and stupid expensive. Side by side shotgun with a rifle between/top of the shotgun. Now. If you can find one? 10-15 thou $$ is on the cheap side.
@kennethlocke4213 I had one of those 30 plus years ago. Didn't know what I had then 😞 .22lr on top .410 on bottom. Can't remember who it was made by as I got it in a trade for a 70s Buick Centurion. $45, a.22lr, and the over under. That was just before I left for the Army in 85. Not sure where it is now.
Nostalgia took over and bought me a Pardner .410 3inch last year. I bought a 9mm sleeve for it due to hard to find slugs and my grandson (14) loves shooting it 🙂. Not to much longer it'll be his 😊. Hope he hangs on to it better than me.
@@kennethlocke4213 do you remember who mfg the 22/410?
Most excellent comparison demonstration. All three rounds have definitive uses. .22lr = targets 25# or less @ 100m. 22mag = targets 100# or less @ 100m. .17mag = targets 75# or less @ 200m.
Just a basic rule of thumb...
Just for bullet weight and speed combo, ill take 22 mag all day long. Nice vid.
It started with the Automag II for me and now I'm using the PMR 30 for my EDC.
Got em both, hate the mag, 17 HMR all day long, or night.
@@MrCobb-rq8iv your choice, mag doesnt break up as much, speed and bullet weight combo always wins for my needs. enjoy
@@MrCobb-rq8iv Haven't had a chance to play with 17 HMR yet so can't say - what's wrong with WMR that you HATE it versus simply preferring HMR?
but if you hit a rabbit or pigeon they'll be smashed.
Excellent Comparison of the 3 Calibers Adam 👍. Thanks for the Video 👌. Cheers 🍻🙏🍁.
Great fun, I also have a 17, an LR and my new Savage 22 mag. They are all so much fun at the range, loved to to see the underestimated power of these three rounds going through Stainless.Enjoying the videos from British Columbia Canada
.22LR subsonic is my all time favourite. Not as deadly as the others, but still deadly on small game and almost silent when suppressed. For everything else, there is centrefire.
Seems you can put a Lamb's Nipple on the barrel
22 60 grain aguila is my favorite pistol and rifle round for 22
I have always been a 22 WMR fan. Thank you for the comparison!
Great video! I'm loving this test rig and comparisons.
I guessed the 17 hmr which is one of my favorites. Would like to see a 17 mach2 which is awesome. Great video, thanks for showing us!!
I often wondered which was more powerful so now we have a pretty good idea, Thanks to you! And stainless is very tough! Ruining a few drill bits in my day drilling the stuff. Of course I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of any of those rounds! Kind Thanks and Many Blessings! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Penetration was very close. But the way the .17 broke up would cause much more damage to tissue.
More little bits to pick out of your meat.
It was also a hollow point that was designed to break up. It is my assumption that if they all three had jacketed solid lead bullets the .17HMR would have gone through more plates.
I sold off my Ruger 77/17 years ago but was impressed with the damage that 17HMR did at the level of noise that it produced.
They are surprisingly loud for sure.
Interesting test. I like the .22 Mag myself. New sub here from Australia
everybody loves a "how many does it go through" video of any calibre!
I think that the 22 mag was compromised by hitting center of plate . Center of plate has more flex give . I think that if you shot the 22mag again near the side of plate it would go thru one more plate
I was thinking the same. But I just like the 22 mag alot more. Great rimfire cartridge
Looks like a lot of people have their own opinion 's,no one has made another video to prove or disprove what was illustrated...... show me
@@paulpetty3331 maybe who tee who will show us
@@neilmoreland5476 probably a neat idea , but as of now 32h&r mag is very hard to find and favor seems to be falling from 327 as I type . In my opinion 327 is a very practical round as interchangeable with 32 long and 32h&r mag.Also 32 calibre bullets are renowned for accuracy. I don’t know what’s going on with ammo manufacturing but many calibers seem to be non existent.I always wanted to see an N Frame 8 shot in 22 hornet
@@randyblackburn9765 Randy ,,Thanks for your response and imput on the 32 cals..I'm aware of the current 32 cal centerfire cartridges which are pretty available here in SW OHIO where I reside. I'm bout 20 miles SW of Dayton Ohio.
What I was really talking about is the 32 cal Rimfire ammo which has been obsolete since the early 1900s. There use to be many different Rimfire calibers available until the centerline rounds started dominating and the 22 cal long rifle rimfire hit the market and it too dominated the market. If my memory serves me right,, 32 and 44 calibers Rimfires date back to use in the Civil War even.
I've shot some 32 cal long, Rimfire in my old Stevens rifle that my Dad had bought and was very impressed with it,,so I'm hoping some manufacturer of both guns and ammo might jump on the bandwagon and bring it back,,,and maybe make a rimfire, Long Rifle and Magnum round also both in rimfire.. I have 3 boxes of 32 caliber rimfire I bought early 2000 that's made in Brazil,,,Last run of 32 cal rimfire that I'm aware of. It was $41.00 a box of 50 then, round 2005.. Guess what it's going for now? Might as well be a box of GOLD now.. Wish I'd bought more,,guy said he had a pallet of it,,buy all I want..Duh,,I bought 3 boxes then.. But I wasn't aware the Brazilian company was shutting down production of their 32 cal rimfire long ammo then either...
Great video. The next time I would like to see the 17 HMR switched out to the 17 WSM. Thanks again.
Love my 17 WSM. Nasty little round
@@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkhisn't that a centerfire cartridge? I'm not familiar with it.
@@patrickgriffitt6551 its a rimfire cartridge adapted from a .27 cal nail gun cartridge using 15, 20 or 25 gr .17 projectiles. It is currently the fastest rimfire in the world and the trajectory is absolutely amazing on it!
Yes me too…. ! ✨🇫🇷✨🫡
@@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh
Love to see a video featuring the ballistics of that round.
Great comparison video. Thanks for taking the time to do it.!
Thanks for watching
Rim fire fan here WhoTee so i enjoyed this one a lot ! I love the MacGyver metal sheet stand !!! All three rounds pack a lot more punch than most folks realize !
So true
I love this! If you get the opportunity, could you do 17 hmr vs 17 wsm tests?
Thanks for the content. You covered about everything except for the grade of stainless steel and the gauge.
Dude, you are mine and my boys favorite bull lots feller😂 Got 2 boys and we always put your videos in our top 5 and enjoy. Congrats on having a crap ton of subscribers and staying real brother.
Thanks for watching!
Love your tutorials. this demonstration was well executed and helpful thank you . Keep up the good work.!
Appreciate you watching!
22mag here. I missed the 50grain game shock These were great on sml hog, coyotes, and NA River Otters. Hard to find. these but they do travel slower but the penetration is great.
Cool video, I was leaning toward the 17HMR.
Fun to watch the battle of the rimfire!!
Maxi-Mag hp+V 22 WMR 30 Grain are awesome performers in 22 mag , that’s all I use
I’m with you my friend 👍 that’s my #1 coyote round out to 150 yards.🤠
Don't forget hornady 45 gr critical defense, goes into 8" ballistic gel!!
As always, a really fun video! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
That was a good video! Thanks!
So entertaining!! Your the best!!
Thanks for watching!
I’m a rimfire man 👍🏻👍🏻 This test was GREAT !!! Thank you so very much!! All the best from Alabama ✌️
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Who for another great video! Love your down to earth tests! Just a suggestion if possible, why not try small caliber center fire rounds (e.g 17 Remington, 204 Ruger, 220 Swift all those rounds are pushing the 4000fps relm) and shoot from a 100 yards or less at that same target set up. That would cool to see the results and after do the clay tests to make some modern art. Thanks again brother looking forward to the next videos. Keep up the great work!! God bless ya!
Glad to see you're back like your videos
I never left. New video every day for the past 4 years....
Great video, WTW! I luv, luv, luv the 22 Mag!
Nice rig you set up. I like it.
Loved my Remington 22mag semi auto. Dropped some fallow with it
Still like your "How many water jugs" the best but the plates are really cool.
I wasn’t gonna guess cause I had no clue! Lol. I have and hmr and a 17wsm. I like them both. Don’t have a 22 mag yet. Great video! 👍🏻👍🏻
I’ve shot several groundhogs at 165 and 135 yards with my Savage 17 HMR with bull barrel. On the other hand I like my Savage 22 mag for fox and coyote at closer rages or when breezy conditions. Both are good tools for the right job. Thanks, I enjoyed your comparison!
Hey WTW ! This was a fun video for show ! Love the home made steal holder yep yep !
Almost twice as fast, not over twice as fast. Love the vids, hooty hoo
Thanks for watching!
Still thinking you need to try 22TCM! I will continue to remind you about this under appreciated ammo!
I picked up a Ruger 10/22M years ago at a pawn shop. Best used firearm purchase I've ever made.
I've never felt outgunned with a 22Mag.
.22 mag is my go to but all of my small game shots are under 100 yards. Anything past that I would definitely go with the .17. Great video!
You just got a new subscriber hailing out of North Carolina brother 🎯
Thanks for subscribing!
I bought the 22 magnum and never looked back
Would love to see more .22lr comparisons like Punch vs Stinger vs GB or something like that. Cool setup, I love me some 22!
Nice video! I would like to see the 22Mag with a 50 grain bullet and a 17HMR with the 20 grain for comparison.
Hi Larry here I have them both, my personal belief is that little 17 HMR is a wicked round, have used it a lot, KEEP UP THE GOOD VIDEOS I LOVE WATCHING THEM
My experience, 17 is the pool for small critters, long range! It just doesn't seem to have enough penetration for raccoons or larger animals.
That .17 has some “boogie”.
I’d love to see PCC’s or Henry’s shooting pistol rounds and the same test. 9mm, 45ACP, 38 spl, .357 mag, .44 spl, .44 mag, …….whatever you can “round” up. Some of us would love to get a rifle with the same ammo as a pistol. Maybe one rifle round at the end for comparison. Thanks WTW.
Great video thanks👍
I would say 22LR because you can get them anywhere. Great video.
"Picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue" Airplane movie
Surely you can't be serious...
@@billrowan1957Johnny how about some more coffee? No thanks!
@@billrowan1957 He is. And stop calling him Shirley!
Glad to see I'm not the only old guy watching 😂😂
@@jimchambers7548 🤣👍
Not surprised by the outcome. Next time maybe try a 30 or 32gr bullet in 22 mag and and a 25 gr in 17. Closer weights. Good video Mr., thank you.
Love your video sir! Really interesting. Just curious about CCI Stinger ammo and your thoughts on its speed and accuracy as well as others opinions. I used to shoot that lots. Now I switched to Ely subsonic for fox squiirrels
The 22 mag was at a slight disadvantage because it was just above the plate support which would cause a little more flex and absorb some of the shock. I believe if the shot were as low as the first two the mag would have made it through the fifth plate.
I agree if the shot placement of the 22mag was lower it would have gone through 5
Should have simply inverted the plates before shooting the 22 Mag.
@@glennrishton5679 Or new plates, nothing about this test was correct, pure BS.
I think that the 17 did the best. It basically matched the result of the 22 mag at half the weight. I do see the point of the place even with that. Half the weight.
I agree. The flex in the center of the plates ate up more of the punch.
Neat video with results as expected. Wondering if different loads would be the same?
I have been wanting to get a rimfire for a while. I think you talked me into it!
Before you get into rimfire, take a look at the latest modern pellet guns or known as air rifles out nowadays, close to as powerful as a rimfire 22 LR, cheaper to shoot and quiet, it is all that a person needs, with a scope.
Fun test............well organized. Thanks. Wonder how the 5.7 pistol would have done?
Even the lowly 22 short will kill. I set up a similar test to yours with white pine 2x4's (nominal) with .22 short, .22Long Rifle, and .22 mag out of a North American Arms revolver (short barrel) and the short protruded just out of the first board and the 22 LR and .22 Mag were about the same through 4 boards. A brain or heart shot with any of these and "game over". Thanks for the test !
Another good video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
great job! thank you.
Great video buddy
The 17 did much better than I expected, I love mine! Great video! I’m assuming the 17 bullet was fmj as the others explode
Love that stuff! 😊
I was falling a sleep the first and second times watching this ( not video's fault ).
I had the same thoughts as some of the other commenters.
After I woke up I went back and rewatched a third time ( hope in some way it help with the analytics ).
Saw that both the 17 HMR and the 22 mag were JHP's I've always wondered about 22 mag.
Awesome idea on this comparison was going to suggest FMJ's compared but if memory serves me correctly no one makes a 17 FMJ in fact the 1 shot here is the closest to that....
Great video Hootey. How far was the muzzle from the first plate? It would be interesting to see how the three performed at rimfire ranges at say 50 - 70 yards. Thanks for sharing.
Like 5 yards
Nice video. Id wish more pistol manufacturers would make a 17hmr auto pistol
The only real bummer with a 17 is a windy day. I have a buddy that gave me some shells to sight in the new 17 he bought. I shot and hit to the right, adjusted and hit right again. I shot the magazine full and kept adjusting. Then I grabbed my 17 and shot, it hit right as well. Then the wind blew made my paper target fold over and my inside voice said "DUH"... I then went from the open gravel pit to a little draw with some brush and no wind. Zeroed in with no problem. I don't know how fast the wind was but it changed impact 3" at 25 yards.
out of these 3 the 17 HMR has the least wind drift though
3" at 25 yards, LOL, come on, be real! Were you shooting during the peak of a hurricane? A 40 grain .22LR will shift around 6" at 100 yards with a 10MPH cross wind. 3" at 25 yards for a 17HMR, please, LOL...stop lying...
@@irishkelly654yeah I thought the same thing, I have all three 17hmr, 22lr, as well as 22mag if he was getting a 3 in drift at 25 yards I would think the wind had to be blowing pretty hard and anybody with any experience with those three rounds would know thats not the time to sight in a rifle lol.
I’m a big fan of the li’l ole .17HMR. Only have 1 gun chambered in/for it though and it’s a Taurus revolver and it’s a 6” barrel and the model 617 I believe it is?
But then I also like the .22 Win Mag. And who doesn’t like the .22LR?!
Great video and demonstration Hoot.
By the way, joined ur channel because of this video, 👍 great video
New videos every day! Appreciate you watching!
I'm a 17hmr guy and also love 22lr. But seeing your test shots I do like that 22 magnum. Seems to hit hard! A friend of mine loves his 22 mag and has it dialed in to take turtles at 40 or so yards and it does do very well. Thanks for showing your test shots and the stainless panels depth guage!😊
Very interesting video who tee who thank you sir
Good Demo. Just bought a .17 this year and I’m not surprised at your results. That .17 is a zinger. .22 mag has the umph though.
Lets go. Love me sum rimfire showdown
Wow WTW you have a lot more subscribers than you did last time I saw. Congrats on the success
Thanks for watching. I am working hard at it. New videos every day
I shoot a fair amount of .22LR out of either a Ruger 1022, or an M&P 1522. Love both. Great on small game and pests. But for range, accuracy and flat trajectory, you would be hard pressed to beat the .17HMR. I love my CZ and it has been an incredibly accurate and long reaching little rifle. I have never shot a .22WMR, so have no personal experience, but looking at your results, it seems clear it has excellent stopping power, but possibly at the cost of quite a drop off in trajectory at anything much over 75 to 100 yards. My .17 has been amazing out to 200 yards on occasion and my longest measured rabbit, was out at a ridiculous 275 yards one very still summer evening. A small hold over did the trick and the devastation from that wonderful little round was 'convincing'!
Fun video here; thanks for the effort in making it.😊
Nice work !
Thanks for the scientific explanation of bullet performance...
Excellent video. Really perfect.
Thanks for watching!
Good video. Maybe next time you could test them out with the ballistic gel? STS is ok but the gel will give you real time performance per say.
Thanks for the share!!
Thanks for watching
Nice comparisons
Good video brother 👍
17wsm for myself myself. But it's good to see the difference of the ballistics I considered. I nearly went for the 22 magnum
Great job. Thank you 😊
Thanks for watching
Ez szuper videó. 💯👍🏻 Köszönöm.🤝🏻
I'll stick with the 17HMR with a 20g fmj. Great video!
Yeah, and not Hollow point 17 hmr like 2 other 22 cal
Great test rig Mike .. they all 3 are handy as - but the .22 LR is most affordable eh.
Nice. Continue with these tests with pistol calibers. Metal sheets are more reliable than paper plates
great video!
Thanks!
basically the 17 and 22 mag have double the powder charge of the 22lr… and a .223 has double the powder again. i wonder if a 223/556 would of gone through them all…i’m thinking no problem, but…. haha. great video! cheers
That 17 fmj fragmenting is so cool. Someday ill get a .22 that isnt single shot, almost bought a .22 long Bernadelli pistol, but ill find something similar in italian origin
The 17 was a hollow point. I think if it was an FMJ it would have won. Same principle as the 243 and 25-06 piercing through steel easier than a 7mm or 30 cal.
I have been comparing 22mag and 17HMR for along time on multiple distances and targets.
Kill power is about the same. I think it is speed vs power in making the bullet expand that equals out the kill power. Accuracy out to 100-110 yards is pretty much the same... after that the 17 continues on a flatter trajectory with speed.and the 22 mag keeps more energy.
I have found that the 20gr 17HMR is a better round out of my Savage bolt action, heavy barrel.
Thanks for the cool video. Always enjoy them.
I wish you had also tested 17WSM, faster than the 17HMR. Thanks for the vid!
Why .. it's almost impossible to find.
@@Logan-py8we not true. Ammoseek website always has it. I have a healthy supply I can locate from suppliers around the country. You have to willing to look further/try harder than the local gun shop.
@@Logan-py8we easy to find and would have outperformed the others.
Nice work on the video. Very informative. I've never used a 17 HMR. That looks to be a nasty round. Like a 5.56 junior.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, I think the chrono stopped working when the cloud cover went away. Mine doesn’t like full sun either.
The live chat disappeared. Thank you for this video. I want a 17 or A 22 mag, so this will help me. I appreciate it.
Thanks for watching