Ruger American Rimfire Long-Range Target Timney Trigger Quick Review and Ammo Comparison Part 1
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- Weather cleared up for a day to shoot the new ruger. All groups at 50 yards
5:24 Aguila Super Extra - bad
6:15 Federal Target - 1.05
7:05 Eley Target - .705
8:12 SK Standard - .699
9:05 CCI Standard Velocity - .659
10:23 CCI Green Tag .609
11:17 Wolf Match Extra - .609
12:37 Lapua X-Act - .544
14:15 Wolf Match Target - .543
15:13 Lapua Center-X - .528
Thank you for the video, this is the only video about this rifle I have been able to find, looking forward part 2
Regards
yea i wasn't able to find any other video either. a few people on some threads had one but thats about it. should have part 2 done this weekend.
Great information. Thanks for sharing. I've been searching for reviews on this rifle. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the input. Yes as far as i could find this is the only video on youtube talking about it. I ordered 12 more types of ammo to test which should be here by the weekend then i'll get part two posted.
Came up with a lot of same observations when using my Ruger American Rimfire Target. Nice to see someone else verifying it here.
I think its safe to say that this gun would take quite a bit of work to get down to minute consistently. trigger, bedding, so on you could probably get there.
Have you found a good stock upgrade for yours?
@@Athletesperformance1 I have not, but I have used a dremel tool to sand off all contact points so the barrel is free floating now.
@@Athletesperformance1 I haven't really looked I kinda like this one. Probably buy a krg bravo if they make em for these tho
Great video. Much appreciated. I'm pretty sure i'm going to add this rifle to my safe soonest. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! To be honest the more I shoot it the more I like it. I put the new 5-25x56 strike eagle on it and had it out last weekend using CCI standard velocity and it was clearing my kyl target almost every time at 50 yards
I found your channel today and been looking at some of your reviews, I like your style and I’m surprised you don’t have more views and subscribers, I subbed.
thanks! i would assume 1. because i haven't had much new content lately and 2. because i get pretty heavily shadow banned.
@@coreyd1474
Yeah, that figures .
I have one!, only had it for 3 weeks and it's a sweet shooter...mine loves Eley Club ammo..
How far have you shot it? I was going to do these tests at 100 but it was snowing too hard to see any further than about 75
I did something similar I to what you did as far as testing ammo, I was able to setup a little 9x15" AR500 silhouette I have at 100 yards. 5 shot group .94" using Eley Club, measured the group with ballistic-x.
@@chadwood4296 damn that's good! I'll have to pick up a few boxes to try
@Rex Trammell yes, mine has the 22" barrel. So far I've been really impressed with it.
Thanks for the good review, especially the emphasis on the ammunition. Unless a rifle is a total custom job, chambers can be a bit different, which in turn affects ammunition performance. These Rugers are all factory jobs, so it will be a chore finding an ammo that works well in one. I know, I am going through this right now. I've run quite a few high priced ammo through it so far with less than satisfactory results. Now for the funny part. I shot CCI Green Tag through it, and it was abysmal. I shot the same Green Tag out of my old Remington 512 Sportmaster (My Dad gave it to me 65 years ago) and it outshot the new Ruger. And there is a vintage Weaver scope on the Remington. Go figure.
i haven't owned anything that green tag has show well through. its actually a pretty popular topic of disussion on a lot of the comments i get and the majority of them say the same thing. i think we all wanted it to be good since 22 plinkster was pushing it but we forgot that they pay him lol
I didn't know Ruger even made this rifle until about a month ago. After about a month of searching, I finally found one last weekend on GunBroker. I picked it up today. 😁
not even close to worth the money
Glad you got out to shoot even in the cold. It's always entertaining for me to see the results. Love it. My favorite ammo to focus on when you present your results are the eley target, cci standard, and sk standard. I was reading an article written by a shooter and he said that wolf ammo and the sk standard was made by the same company. If you compare the bottom of the casing of both of those you'll see the design is the same. Again thanks for another video.
I was wanting to know what gun cleaning solvent you use. I was cleaning the other day using hoppes 9 and it stunk up the whole house. My wife was not happy and now I have to look for an alternative.
Yea lapua sk wolf all seems to be the same with slight variations. I use hopps #9 also but it's down in the basement so I don't get any complaints lol
Does she have any sisters? ;)
Nice job on the video
Thanks for watching!
Nice review Corey. Thanks for putting in the effort on a cold winter day. Kudos for upgrading the trigger but what about g bedding the stock? Would that help tighten up the groups?
It probably would help a little I'm sure
I shoot Wolf Match Extra in my Anschutz 1710 HB I have shot a 247 and consistently stay in the 240ies with Match extra the bulls eye is a 1/4 inch on competition targets and not easy to hit at 50 yards! For those that don't know these targets have 25 shot you have to make!
thanks for watching
I just bought the RAR model 8372 (wildcat version) for my boys, but I must have got the cream of the crop rifle, it's shooting 0.9" at 100 yards, out of the box with Aguila HP. It may be even better than that in steadier hands.
thanks for watching
Well done
thanks for watching
A good extensive review there, i appreciate conditions were awful but my conclusion is that the Ruger is either mega ammo fussy or the barrel is rough..
this rifle should cost about 300 bucks
It's a weird world that .22 LR rifles live in! My CZ 452 American will put 2 of 3 Aguila Super Extra high velocity 40 grain bullets into the same hole at 55 yards, but throw #3 out. My 100 yard groups would all be .400 or less without that flier. I finally had enough and glass bedded the action and 2 inches of the barrel ahead of the receiver today! Hopefully, this brings it all together and solves that "flier" problem. It's just a rifle for small game hunting and recreational shooting fun, but my old faithful Marlin 39-A shoots .300 at 50 yards all day long and has been since 1976, so this new comer should be getting it done as well. We shall see.
My son shoots the Long Range Hawkeye in 300 Win. Mag. and it does very well out there!
yea 22 really is a strange animal. when you get up in to the high dollar guns thast you start eliminating those flyers. I would have to see the .3 groups out of a lever gun, that's a little far fetched IMO.
Quick question....did you do the velocity checking with V3 seperate of the group shooting?
So in the second part of this review what I did was took a few different ammo types I knew would be fairly consistent and shot the fowling rounds with the chrono to get velocity then took it off for the actual groups. What I noticed was zero change in poi or accuracy so I just kept it on the whole time.
If you can get some, try Federal Ultra Match. In my RPR, consistently shoots all holes touching or same hole at 50. Nothin by Eley come close.
yea several people have said that. ultra match and gold medal match but i think they stopped making that.
Thanks for the informative videos; have you shot any Geco .22 LR rounds? i bought a case of the Geco Bolt Action and they do about as well as the CCI SV , at least in my CZ's.
no i have not. i've never heard of it before?
@@coreyd1474 You can see the info on the Target Sports Ammo web page. Regards, Mike.
Another great review Corey, you do good work. What's your favorite rimfire bolt gun these day's? I haven't asked in a while.
thanks for watching! definitely the bergara b14r. great gun.
@@coreyd1474 thanks, I wondered if was still your favorite
@@TimBiagi absolutely is, i can't get my rimx to feed right and its pissing me off.
Can't imagine the magnetospeed being mounted on a .22 changing group size but may want to try it. My .308 group size don't change dimension but it will change location..
Yea I would be severally surprised if it did but I have seen people talking about it. But like you said this is a rimfire. Another person commented the same thing. Definitely be interesting to see though
I live in Columbus, I have the 17 HMR version!!!
getting some good accuracy from it?
Really kool vid, Thanks!
I'm in ammo testing now for my Factory Savage MKII out to 100m.
CCI Std Vel. kicked butt at 50m!
Thinking of using Subs at 100+
SO MANY TO TRY!!!!
Enjoying your .22 playlist.
People say a good 22 is based off how well it shoots cci STD vel lol I actually just ordered a Christensen arms ranger 22 and I'm super pumped to see how that thing shoots
What did they do to fix the extraction issue? I know you said you get a lot more on your Precision Rimfire... how do you know they did something to fix that issue?
no clue. been a while since i mde this
Interesting review - enough to put me off buying one. I would expect any 22 rimfire with the word "target" in the description to routinely shoot 5 round groups into no more than 9mm at 50 yards. (3/8inch)
yea i keep saying it and its true this gun should cost about 300 bucks.
@@coreyd1474 I work for the UK NRA and we are about to get 5 of these for training. These cost the equivalent of $900 here. I will be interested to see how they perform.
evening bro. ive spent countless hours researching and watching videos (including all yours) and im trying to decide between this and the rpr. i want to do alot of 50 - 200yd shooting and also want to do some considerably long range stuff and take it as far as my ammo and dope will allow. now that you own them both and have had time on them which would you keep if you could only keep one? and just as a side question if you dont mind, which do you prefer between this one and the tikka?
so from my experience so far the american is better than the rprf. my rprf had tons of FTE and the american has had ONE out of a few thousand rounds. However, the tikka is by far better than both. i would spend the extra money on the tikka and a chassis IMO.
@@coreyd1474 preciate the info bro. i had my eye on the LRT then kept seeing the rprf and how easily adjustable it would be between various size shooters and decided to give it another look. ive also been looking at some CZs but i do want a decent scope too and the CZ takes that off the table lol
@@rimfiresniper5259 i put the new vortex strike ealge 5-25x56 on this and have been spending a little time behind it and i like it more and more. it was clearing my KYL target almost every time with cci standard velocity at 50 yards. still wouldn't put it ahead of the tikka though. i DO wish it had an adjustment for length of pull though.
@@coreyd1474 dude, noone within a couple hours drive of me has one of these and theyre out of stock online everywhere ive looked but as it so happens my favorite local ace hardware, where i buy 60% of my outdoor gear, had the rpr in for $369. it was just too tempting. so as youve already put together i now own it. tried to order my scope, because it too is not in stock anywhere, and i cant get it until like May 6th. geez! went with the diamond back tactical 6-24. so im mounting a bullshit barska ive had so long i cant even figure out where i got it or what i had it on while i wait. really dig the tikka and may end up with one yet. ruger holds quite a few slots in my safe and i just felt like i was bringing a cousin home haha. my daughter (13) wants to start competing so were really looking hard at nicer stuff now and trying to figure it out. my model 60 in the dragunov stock with a bipod and simmons scope and my mark II "sniper" rifle have reached their limits for us! look forward to seeing how my results compare. im really interested in testing it against what i have here including my 4th generation hand me down 1930s single shot springfield model 83 haha. dont laugh, okay you can laugh, but it holds its own!
Great video. Nice rifle. Did you take the chronograph off the barrel after your faling shots. It will change the harmonics of the barrel. Could help or hurt groups. But it will change it.
No but from what I've read it doesn't affect 22s as much. But good point I'm going to shoot it without next time I get the gun out to see if it made any difference
You have some very nice 22lr rifles. My favorites. Happy shooting!
With this great equipment are you considering NRL22.
@@johngalt4769 thank you. I shoot 22 85% of the time so I don't mind spending a little extra on them.
@@johngalt4769 I would love to but they don't come close at all to where I live
Good video. Noticed most groups had little consistency in their dispersion. Got a hunch but I don't feel ammo is your issue.
So what's the issue?
Corey D the gun. I had one & played hell getting it to shoot. 1" (2moa) at 50 yards may be ok for the plinker but won't make it NRL22 or bench rest
@@sgtjkm yea agree it should shoot better than it does for the money. I had mine out the other day at 100 and it was windy and cold but it shot force well. Be curious to see how it does on a calm day but that ammo is expensive
Do you like this more than the
Ruger
precision? Accuracy difference?
i like the rprf more i think it was consistently more accurate.
I've set up a RAR in 22 WMR decently, and wondering if I'd like to pop a Timney into it. Haven't run the gun much at all yet. Have no idea what brands it's going to like.
I'm not afraid of spending some money on it. What's your opinion on Timney? Worth it, over the stock "precision" trigger?
Also, do you know of a decent stock maker that offers a nice stock upgrade for the RAR chassis? The stock polymer stock is pretty flimsy/flexy. I'm running the 18" stainless.
the timney trigger is very nice, if money is no issue i think its a must. No on the stock i haven't really looked. its a fairly popular rifle so i'm sure there is at least a few options out there.
@@coreyd1474 There's options for the Ruger American centerfire, but not the rimfire version. I've checked Boyds, Magpul, Hogue, and a few others.
Say Corey....why doesn't Ruger get the word out on this new stuff. I just bought the RPRR for myself before Xmas. Wuda dun better for just 60 bux more on the Tikka but Im stupid goofy cheap. Now this ? Anyway... whats the woods like carry weight without the bipod ?
Thnx for the vids.
yea having had both the tikka is on another world when it comes to quality and accuracy for the price. they list this as 8 pounds bare rifle so and the rprf is listed at 6.8 so its slightly heavier.
I've contacted CCI twice about the diff between Green Tag and SV as the advertised specs are the same. All I get is crickets. I'm done with Green Tag.
bro, they're only pushing it because plinkster. it'll never be as good as standard velocity. you pay for the 100 round plastic boxes they come in.
Cory, thanks for the video, I enjoy your work. A couple thoughts...
I like ruger, but find their barrels can be rough. Try using JB bore paste to polish it a bit.
Also cold snowy weather typically is hell on 22 ammo unless it is Biathalon spec.
Try Eley club, much better than target for little extra $$
A "new" ammo to try, Gemtec. At the local November NRL22 I was at 3 guys were shooting it with good results. I'm going to try it shortly.
No you're definitely right like I said I wasn't making excuses by any means but it was cold snowy and shitty! Thank you so much for your input and watching it's much appreciated
Hello! What ring height are you using on this setup?
i BELIEVE those are the 1.26 pro series from vortex. i've since swapped the scope/rings.
is this a polymer stock or wood? .
thinking about getting one ..
i THINK its wood. has a slightly rough texture feels like a manners a little.
Another great video Corey. I’ve been shooting a Ruger target for years and recently bought the Ruger Performance Center 10/22 in stainless, love the rifle and plan on doing a similar ammo test. I mostly shoot CCI standard but have started shooting GECO semi auto and am very happy with my groups. I shoot it exclusively through my Ruger MKII and Volquartsen Pistol with great results. Again, thank you for all your time and energy for the educational videos.
thanks for watching!
BUY A CZ UNTIL THE AMERICAN RIFLES RAISE THEIR STANDARDS
Love watching your videos Corey. I noticed you said you live around Columbus. I live about 15 miles north of Dayton and was wondering where you compete with the 22lr (NRL, Precision, etc?)
Hey Joe! Yea I live in Springfield and the last few times I chcked the nrl schedule there was nothing close. You know of anything?
@@coreyd1474 no I don't. On Facebook there is a group titled Rimfire Tactical and I thought someone mentioned that there are some NRL matched around Cincinnati. Dawg Valley in Covington, Oh was going to start up and had 1 match with quite a few shooters attending but they never went past that point. That was a couple years ago and still nothing. They have a lot of 3 gun matches so I imagine they are concentrating on that.
@@joesubler1169 never really understood the whole three gun thing but I enjoy shooting 22 more. You'd figure there would be a bigger market for 22 because it's cheap to shoot and you only need one gun but I guess not everyone feels that way.
@@coreyd1474 my thoughts are the same. I would imagine Thunder Valley has NRL matches but that's a 3 1/2 drive for me.
@@joesubler1169 I doubt they do. Really have tossed around the idea of hosting my own I have the space
I went to the Timney site and couldn’t identify which model to get. What one did you get?
i believe its for the ruger american.
It would be hugely helpful is Ruger told us what the actual chamber was in this gun. Truly match grade ammo is a waste of time and money in a standard chamber. Surprised the Standard Plus didn't shoot better for you, It's always the first thing I try.
yea its for sure not a match chamber. 100%
Good video! I almost like what ruger is trying to do. I just don’t fully understand what they are doing. A precision rimfire, 2 target rimfire models, and no match chambers. I can’t argue against the precision rimfire bc it’s a good platform to build and they can be bought for $350. This rifles msrp is $600. I feel like there are better options and more accurate rifles for less out of the box. That is if this accuracy representation is the norm for these rifles. I could understand if they had 3 tiers of rifles as far as pricing and offered more features for each (match chamber). This imo is a “target” rifle in name only. Ruger is just getting a little too gimmicky for my taste these days. Just my opinion.
Yea I'm not quite sure what makes this "long range" and you are pretty much saying what everyone else is. They would have got it right with a Match chamber. Probably worth more around 400 bucks or so imo
Better options like what?
Tony H I think the savage mkii fvsr is a better option. It has a terrible stock but its cheap enough to get a Boyd’s stock to drop it in. The tikka t1x is around the same money for what u can probably buy this rifle. Cz 455s are still available for less Even the ruger precision rimfire is a better option. The aftermarket support is plentiful. I’d probably buy any of those over this rifle personally. Again just my opinion.
@@blakebeene8188 I know Tony and he's got an fvsr that shoots well and it's in a chassis. I actually have a Tikka t1x mtr and it's by far the best 22 I've ever shot. Also had a cz457 and it was so awful I sold it. Nothing can beat the Tikka IMO
Corey D yea I’ve seen your 457 videos. It’s a tough break. I have a 457 varmint precision trainer that I had to work on a little to get to perform. Unfortunately since the 452 cz has kinda lost a lot in the qc department. The 457s are suffering the same early fate as the 455s were when they were first launched. Rushing to release and qc goes out the window. I’d trust a 455 at this point over a 457. I own a tikka t1x and agree nothing is better in the price point. The biggest problem with 22lr right now is everyone is chasing accuracy that just isn’t really there. With marketing being as it is ppl are bouncing around from rifle to rifle looking for something they’ll probably never find. Everybody is looking for Vudoo level accuracy in mass produced rifles. I’m guilty as well. I wish I would have bought a Vudoo and bought once and cried once. Lol I’m still considering it.
Is the stock wooden? Or synthetic?
I THINK its wood but I couldn't find where they listed it in the specs. Feels more like fiber glass but I know it isn't. It's pretty nice though
Everyone in the world shoots Center x? I've never even heard of lapua 22 ammo. However good video very informative
you'll get familiar with it the more you shoot. they make basically the best of everything. center x has shot the best out of basically all my 22s and i have been using scenar bullets out of my 308 for years.
I have the same problems with green tag. Very disappointing with the price tag
Yea I'm not going to buy any more once I'm out of it, stick with CCI standard velocity
@@library_dork1321 all these were the "new" box style CCI standard velocity
Are You going to try out those new 22 plinkster cci
i'll definitely try them! can you buy them yet?
@@coreyd1474 dont thank so seen them on 22 plinkster channel a few days ago
Where are you printing those targets at?
you can get all sorts of targets off the 22nrl website. under the downloads section
my ruger is driving tacs with cci suppressor ammo
whats the fps on that? isn't it like 780 or something super slow.
If Lapua xcat Didn't group well have you consider that's may be the rifle it's not up to par my CZ 457 Ultimate trainer with the Manners Stocks shoots one hole groups at 50 yards with SK standard plus .9" at 100 yards my Anschutz holds 1/2 MOA at 100 yards that is more than double the price of the CZ point is I've never tried Gucci ammo because SK standard plus and SK target shoots better than I can I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not you or the ammunition is the rifle Ruger makes call value price firearms but I don't think they're built for Precision
no i agree with you, at least this one definitely isn't but like you said the guns you have are 3 times the price of this. either well still doesn't shoot as well as i figured it would.
I had mine for less than a week, PROFOUNDLY disappointed in trigger, no front sling swivel stud for my harris bi-pod, am average size 5' 10" male and found stock ergonomics not quite right, tried the usual Eley, SK, Norma Target and Match ammo and found the accuracy/performance to be mediocre, traded it in at my local Gunshop for a CZ 547 MDT.
this rifle should be 350 bucks. said it a million times. squirrel gun, should not be labeled "long range"
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thanks for watching.
What kind of stock is that?
ruger makes them.
Wish they would sell the stock separately.
or at least have some other options, a chassis maybe.
Hey bud try rws or sk long range match.
the only rws round that ever worked well for me is r50 and its super expensive. sk long range shoots ok out of my rimx at 200
Get rid of the chrono. for group shooting.
from my experience using a chrono on several different 22s it did not effect the harmonics. the groups were consistently the same with or without the chrono.
Every barrel shoots different no matter the make or model of the rifle. When you get a new 22 rifle or barrel you need to test tons of ammo to get one that shoots well... even down to the lot number of the ammo.
i feel like i give each rifle an adequate amount of ammo.
@@coreyd1474 Yeah, I think you do considering that none of us are trying to be world class shooters. There comes a point when chasing "same hole" in 22LR can add up to thousands in finding the right ammo/barrel combo. For 99.9% of us shooters a CONSISTENT 1 MOA or less is good nuff.
@@justinfranks8222 yea i agree you find something that consistently shoots minute stick with it. i also enjoy the testing and seeing how good/bad something can be.
@@coreyd1474
I’m new to shooting .22lr “seriously”. Got the Ruger American Rimfire with the threaded 18” barrel. Took it out for the first time the other day and shot 100 rounds of CCI SV and at 50 yards I’m getting consistent .5” groups using a Vortex Crossfire II 2x7 with a bipod. I did torque the action screws to 35lbs before I went out. I’ve had the rifle for about 5 months and before firing it I had plans on upgrading the stock and the trigger and planned on shooting several brands of ammo. Honestly, I think I’m just going to stick with CCI SV and not change a thing. I haven’t had a chance to push it further than 50yards (my range has 300yard capabilities) but I’m excited to see how it fairs at 100yards.
Thanks for the video!
@@ryanwilson5936 i think you'd be generally surprised with how beeter it wills hoot with an aftermarket trigger though.
You hardly talked about the gun. But good ammo review
its definitely nice, great feel. should be closer to the 400-450 price range though IMO.
Most 22 rimfire are finicky,my 513rem doesn't like any high dollar target ammo,instead it's a 1hole gun with american eagle 2.50 a box.
22 is definitely a strange animal. hard to pin down. i'm working on a new video now :)
Now because the gun is $700 dollars, do you think it’s still worth the money?
absolutely not
If it's anything like my American .223 I'll pass at any price thanks.
i enjoy it but not sure it's worth quite so much
Cold and damp... Air density is high, not best for target shooting.
gotta get out when i can
$70 a brick really isnt that bad for target grade or “match grade” ammo.
not now, but at the time it was definitely on the high end. i WISH i could find stuff for 70 a brick
"You can't get that in a 70 dollar a brick ammo"
cries in australian, where it's 150 a brick
Sorry it's so expensive over there lol I'd run guns to you aussies if I could lol
Yeah, I was just going to comment about when he said a box that cost $6 was expensive, thats as cheap as chips here in Aus.
Good looking rifle. Disappointing results. I really want Ruger to do better than this.
definitely room for improvement
IT LOOKS LIKE RUGER NEEDS BETTER BARRELS ON THIER RIFLE.
or cut the MSRP in half would be just fine lol
You gun will shoot better with age
some yes some no.
You said it was cold and snowing, no wonder you couldn't get any good groups no matter the brand, quality or cost of ammo. Personally I think you wasted your time and what 500 rounds of ammo! Try repeating everything on a better day and bet you get better results....
a good 22 with consistent ammo will perform nearly the same in cold weather as hot weather.
Man you think that’s expensive the lapua stuff is $34 a box and there’s still more expensive stuff
wouldn't that classify as expensive still though?
@@coreyd1474 sorry it was supposed to also say here in Canada 🤦♂️ like in comparison on the same ammo .we get bent over the coals on guns and ammo there’s the conversion and then the mark up after import and then sales tax in my province atleast are 13%, RWS match is like 40 something for 50 rounds it’s really gone crazy since Covid and our communist admiring liberals tried to ban guns essentially and then put a carbon tax so everything that’s been shipped trucks, trains, boats, planes, so in the end it trickles down to the consumer
i thought you weren't even allowed to say the word gun up there any more without going to jail?@@Brentor14
meh .....
meh...
@@coreyd1474 Pretty ordinary. but keep it up please.
Its an assembly line mass produced rifle, i have yet to see a ruger 22 rifle ever shoot worthy of its price.
You`re just wasting ammo with this gun. You`re chasing something you`ll never catch with this ruger american 22.
I`ve bought a few of them, they all sucked. Put yourself behind a CZ 22 rifle, you`ll never look at another ruger rimfire again.
i agree this one was trash for the price but i liked my RPRF. already had a cz and it wasn't any better than this. b14r for the win.