Thanks for another great video, the 308 and the 300 win mag are bough great hunting rifles. But if you want something hunting and target try the Savage 110 Varmint in 223 rem. It has a 26" heavy barrel, and is a blast to shoot. Very heavy but carry over the shoulder not to bad. But a fantastic bench or prone rifle, Free hand for you younger guys but at 74 a little heavy for me shooting off the shoulder. Thinking of getting a try pod for mine so I can shoot standing up with it. Again love your videos but where is you buddy, like the ones with the two of you.
Both cold bore 308 shots were hard left… you may want to make sure your stock isn’t pushing. You could have it zero’d with a warm barrel but when cool the stock can’t push the barrel to the right. A friend had that happen, cold bore dead on but follow up shots crept left. Gunsmith had him try sliding a dollar bill between barrel and stock. It bound up. He had to sand the right side out of the stock and it grouped sub-MOA after that. Cool vid, thanks for posting, and nice shooters!
A couple of observations: your .308 was sighted in about 1.5” lower than the 6mm Creed at 100yds. Makes a difference at 200. Obviously the 6 creed drops less at 200 but less significantly than this comparison leads one to believe…due to sight in. You mentioned there was “less swinging” w the .308. But you had something behind the chain on the .308 200yd test…..but it wasn’t there on the 6creed. Whatever it was it stopped the chain from swinging. These rifles are different animals. For hiking and climbing and going after hoofed creatures give me the short, light 308. For ringing steel at distance in a prs competition I want the 6 Creed. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I like your style. Very grateful for this content.
Thanks for watching! Looking back, it does look like the 308 was low at 100. I thought it seemed to be a pretty drastic difference. There wasn't anything else behind the 200 yard target though. It was the same both times.
Take a look. When you shot the .308 there was a purple square behind the chain. It absorbed some “plate swing energy”. Wasn’t there w 6 Creed. Look at 10:50 vs 13:09.
@@milo555100 I stand corrected, it does look like the second plate blocks some of the swing. I thought I mounted it far enough away to not have an effect.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Those 200 yd groups are excellent out of both. Im really surprised that the lesser expensive, lighter, expensive .308 turned in such stellar groups. Great shooting. Thanks again Sir. Subscribed
Very good video The Ruger American in .308 will kill a deer at 100 and 200 yards...no problems. The precision rifle can win you a shooting match on a range and it is could be used for hunting...although it is a pretty heavy carry. Nice presentation of what each rifle can do.
Not much of a comparison, but I still enjoyed the video! 6.5 Creed is inherently more accurate by design, plus you shot it out of a rig that was at least 2 classes higher than the .308 rifle lol. Excellent shòoting at 200 with both 👍
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Ooooohhhh, I missed that part. I was wondering why you were saying it shot so much flatter lol! Need to get you a .22 Creedmoor next then 😉
Great video ! Epoxy bedding the . 308 action will tighten the groups considerably & hand loads (if that’s your thing ) , sub minute of angle easily . It already looks promising 👍!
They are both purpose built, one is long distance shooting & the other hunting, they both do what their intended purpose was designed to do. They will really show their design differences at a 1000 yards.
"The older cartridge" as you say, I find to be irrelevant. Under 600 yards, a .270 outperforms both of those. Just because it's now viewed as an "outdated" or "old timers" cartridge doesn't remove the fact that the .270 shoots flatter and hits harder than the .308. It's a damn shame that money and research is put into the 6.5 ammo versatility while the .270 is completely ignored. But the new fancy shit gobbles up the money from those who don't know as much as they think they do (that wasn't aimed at you, but it's a general truth among shooters).
Thanks for watching! The 270 is a great caliber, definitely one that I'm hoping to try in the Future. One of the touted benefits of the 6mm is similar performance with much less recoil.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Absolutely, recoil has a bit more "oomph" in .270....but for a grown man, it shouldn't be an issue. Would I want to shoot 500 rounds in a day with it? Probably not. But I wouldn't want to spend $500+ in ammo in a day either, which is the case with any of these cartridges lol. But as a hunting rifle, it's top notch. You just don't really get anything stylish or semi-auto options for it.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober I considered the recoil and have been contemplating adding a Creedmoor solely for recoil + semi-auto (4+1 gets old). Then I realize in the SE U.S., I'll never have a 1,000 yard line of sight in the woods or mountains, so what's the point? So I went with a 9mm carbine for cheap ammo and just plain old fun. The 5.56 with green tips for "Oh F" scenarios, keep the .270 strictly for hunting. And now this nagging voice wants an AR-10 .308 that will give me the semi-auto, hunting power, and still a little less recoil with the AR-10 platform. Not a Creed reduction in recoil, but sacrifices must be made when you're not rich LOL.
@@Swearengen1980 I would pass on the AR-10. I've had a few and they are always underwhelming. A good AR15 platform is going to scratch that center fire itch for cheaper, lighter, and probably more accurate. But that's just my opinion.
308 is such a common ammunition that it's got to be in the top 3. The 338 Lapua is $10 bucks a round while it's out to 1200 yards. I'm absolutely dithering here. Opinions??
TOFD G. Another good video. Great shooting with both guns. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks for watching!
They're both beautiful. Grea video OFD. Absolutely lovely.
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Thanks for another great video, the 308 and the 300 win mag are bough great hunting rifles. But if you want something hunting and target try the Savage 110 Varmint in 223 rem. It has a 26" heavy barrel, and is a blast to shoot. Very heavy but carry over the shoulder not to bad. But a fantastic bench or prone rifle, Free hand for you younger guys but at 74 a little heavy for me shooting off the shoulder. Thinking of getting a try pod for mine so I can shoot standing up with it. Again love your videos but where is you buddy, like the ones with the two of you.
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out.
Both cold bore 308 shots were hard left… you may want to make sure your stock isn’t pushing. You could have it zero’d with a warm barrel but when cool the stock can’t push the barrel to the right. A friend had that happen, cold bore dead on but follow up shots crept left. Gunsmith had him try sliding a dollar bill between barrel and stock. It bound up. He had to sand the right side out of the stock and it grouped sub-MOA after that. Cool vid, thanks for posting, and nice shooters!
Thanks for watching! I'll check the stock out.
Yep def something drastic happening there for sure.
Thanks for the info. Great video.
Thanks for watching!
A couple of observations: your .308 was sighted in about 1.5” lower than the 6mm Creed at 100yds. Makes a difference at 200. Obviously the 6 creed drops less at 200 but less significantly than this comparison leads one to believe…due to sight in.
You mentioned there was “less swinging” w the .308. But you had something behind the chain on the .308 200yd test…..but it wasn’t there on the 6creed. Whatever it was it stopped the chain from swinging. These rifles are different animals. For hiking and climbing and going after hoofed creatures give me the short, light 308. For ringing steel at distance in a prs competition I want the 6 Creed. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I like your style. Very grateful for this content.
Thanks for watching! Looking back, it does look like the 308 was low at 100. I thought it seemed to be a pretty drastic difference. There wasn't anything else behind the 200 yard target though. It was the same both times.
Take a look. When you shot the .308 there was a purple square behind the chain. It absorbed some “plate swing energy”. Wasn’t there w 6 Creed. Look at 10:50 vs 13:09.
@@milo555100 I stand corrected, it does look like the second plate blocks some of the swing. I thought I mounted it far enough away to not have an effect.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Those 200 yd groups are excellent out of both. Im really surprised that the lesser expensive, lighter, expensive .308 turned in such stellar groups. Great shooting. Thanks again Sir. Subscribed
another excellent video
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Very good video The Ruger American in .308 will kill a deer at 100 and 200 yards...no problems. The precision rifle can win you a shooting match on a range and it is could be used for hunting...although it is a pretty heavy carry. Nice presentation of what each rifle can do.
Thanks for watching!
Not much of a comparison, but I still enjoyed the video! 6.5 Creed is inherently more accurate by design, plus you shot it out of a rig that was at least 2 classes higher than the .308 rifle lol. Excellent shòoting at 200 with both 👍
Thanks for watching! It is actually a 6mm Creedmoor, one notch further down the hipster scale.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Ooooohhhh, I missed that part. I was wondering why you were saying it shot so much flatter lol! Need to get you a .22 Creedmoor next then 😉
Maybeso sight through the bore & the scope before shooting .
Thanks for watching! I try to do a quick sight in, sometimes it works great...other times...
I have a bagara b 14 in 6.5c shots clover leafs, with factory ammo, the only rifle I have that's not glass beded,thanks great video.
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@TheOldFatDadGoober keep it up you have another subscription 👍
ONE U R USING A MUZZLE BRAKE AND OTHER IS A CAN. WHICH ONE WOULD U SAY HELPS WITH MUZZLE PUSH?
Thanks for watching! I'm not sure, which one how with muzzle push?
308 was printing low at a 100. Add 3" or so for drop and you miss the circle.
Thanks for watching! That could be it. Still didn't see much drop from the 6mm.
Great video ! Epoxy bedding the . 308 action will tighten the groups considerably & hand loads (if that’s your thing ) , sub minute of angle easily . It already looks promising 👍!
Thanks for watching! Good ideas.
Please do the same test with 20 grain ammo with the 17
Thanks for watching! You would like to see 100 and 200 yard groups with the 17 HMR?
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Yes, yes I would. Thanks.
@@jackdickenson5313 Sounds like a good idea, I'll get it on the schedule.
They are both purpose built, one is long distance shooting & the other hunting, they both do what their intended purpose was designed to do. They will really show their design differences at a 1000 yards.
Thanks for watching! Good point.
For a stand rifle I'd do the creedmore but I still like my 308
Thanks for watching! I like both rounds, 308 is great for a do everything cartridge. That 6 sure is easy to shoot though.
Bullet weight is the key dnt forget the drop is far diff.💨💥
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Kind of a hard way to compare calibers . That shoulda just been a scope review
Thanks for watching! I think it was a little bit about the calibers and mostly about the experience of shooting the two different rifle platforms.
Nice 👍🏼
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Fun to watch but the creed doesn't even stretch its legs at 200.
Thanks for watching! You're absolutely correct. I wish I had some more space to shoot, but unfortunately this is all I have at the moment.
Lol, nothing should change at 200 yards for either rifle. 200 yards is cold pay. But a 2k rifle and won't shoot farther than 200
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Go past 500 yards and then you'll see the difference.
Thanks for watching! I believe it.
For the love of everything Holy, get lower scope rings
Thanks for watching! I do love everything holy! That was just a temporary setup for the video.
"The older cartridge" as you say, I find to be irrelevant. Under 600 yards, a .270 outperforms both of those. Just because it's now viewed as an "outdated" or "old timers" cartridge doesn't remove the fact that the .270 shoots flatter and hits harder than the .308. It's a damn shame that money and research is put into the 6.5 ammo versatility while the .270 is completely ignored. But the new fancy shit gobbles up the money from those who don't know as much as they think they do (that wasn't aimed at you, but it's a general truth among shooters).
Thanks for watching! The 270 is a great caliber, definitely one that I'm hoping to try in the Future. One of the touted benefits of the 6mm is similar performance with much less recoil.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Absolutely, recoil has a bit more "oomph" in .270....but for a grown man, it shouldn't be an issue. Would I want to shoot 500 rounds in a day with it? Probably not. But I wouldn't want to spend $500+ in ammo in a day either, which is the case with any of these cartridges lol. But as a hunting rifle, it's top notch. You just don't really get anything stylish or semi-auto options for it.
@@Swearengen1980 It is a shame their aren't more rifle choices in 270. After shooting that 6mm I am a believer in the lighter recoil.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober I considered the recoil and have been contemplating adding a Creedmoor solely for recoil + semi-auto (4+1 gets old). Then I realize in the SE U.S., I'll never have a 1,000 yard line of sight in the woods or mountains, so what's the point? So I went with a 9mm carbine for cheap ammo and just plain old fun. The 5.56 with green tips for "Oh F" scenarios, keep the .270 strictly for hunting. And now this nagging voice wants an AR-10 .308 that will give me the semi-auto, hunting power, and still a little less recoil with the AR-10 platform. Not a Creed reduction in recoil, but sacrifices must be made when you're not rich LOL.
@@Swearengen1980 I would pass on the AR-10. I've had a few and they are always underwhelming. A good AR15 platform is going to scratch that center fire itch for cheaper, lighter, and probably more accurate. But that's just my opinion.
11:11 you can be my president
Thanks for watching! I've always thought I would make a halfway decent president.
Should have done both in .308....
Thanks for watching! Next time I'll do that.
Nice glasses. It would be a shame to waste them on PROTECTING YOUR EYES.
Thanks for watching! I knew I was forgetting something. 🤦
It's to protect the hat, hard to find a good hat. Eyes are a dime a dozen lol
right bc we all hunt in safety glasses
With those purple fingers, I thought you had voted in an Iraqi election.
Thanks for watching! It's been sticking around like that ink too. Can't get rid of it. 😤
308 is such a common ammunition that it's got to be in the top 3. The 338 Lapua is $10 bucks a round while it's out to 1200 yards. I'm absolutely dithering here. Opinions??
Thanks for watching! I have tried out many rifle rounds, 308 is what I've stuck with. Always available and very effective, can't beat it.
I'm definitely fatter and older but I'm looking at a new gun. I like the Ruger Precision, just not sure I want to only shoot targets.
Thanks for watching! It's great for shooting targets. Kind of a beast to lug around though for anything else.