The RTX 4080: Is It A 4K GPU?
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đ 0:00ââââ - Is the RTX 4080 a 4K Card
đ 0:59ââââ - Flexispot Premium Standing Desk E7
đ 2:24ââââ - RTX 4080 Gigabyte Aero OC White
đ 3:09ââââ - The RTX 4090 is the only 4K GPU
đ 4:20ââââ - PC Hardware Used for benchmark
đ 4:58ââââ - AC Valhalla 4K Max Settings RTX 4080
đ 5:46ââââ - God of War 2018 4K Max Settings RTX 4080
đ 6:34ââââ - Halo Infinite 4K Max Settings RTX 4080
đ 7:52ââââ - Ratchet and Clank 4K Ray Tracing RTX 4080
đ 9:06ââââ - Ratchet and Clank 4K Ray Tracing DLSS 3 RTX 4080
đ 9:53ââââ - Spider-Man Remastered 4K Ray Tracing RTX 4080
đ 10:32ââââ - Spider-Man Remastered 4K Max Settings DLSS 3 RTX 4080
đ 11:12ââââ - The RTX 4080 is a 4K GPU
đ 12:00ââââ - RTX 4080 vs RTX 4090 1440p
đ 12:29ââââ - How to save money on Nvidia GPUs RTX 4080
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I play all my games at 4k with a 4k display obviously and rarely do I run into major performance issues. A few games have been challenging and I had to drop some shadows or something but more or less I can run it with high or better settings. Now Iâm not smashing 100+ fps but honestly it looks incredibly smooth and the picture quality is great with 70 - 90 fps. Great video Erock!
Thank you!
The 4080 is a solid 4K GPU. It can run the majority of demanding AAA games at native 4K max settings at 60+ FPS. However, if you want to do native 4K max settings with RT at 60+ FPS, the 4090 is the only GPU that can currently do that in quite a few games. The 4090 is the only GPU that handles RT without any compromises. Any other GPU using RT means having to compromise, such as using upscaling/Frame Gen or lowering the settings.
Thatâs a fair assessment. Thank you for sharing.
ââ@@ErockOnTechRequest to test UnrealEngine 5.2 Tropical Rainforest TechDemo...the application size around 5gb.
The graphics is mind blowing with next-gen nanite & lumens implements turn on....even RTX4090 only got 40+fps maxed out setting.
4090 can't handle RT Overdrive in Cyberpunk 2077 @ 4K.
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@karlwalker1771 The 4080 is anywhere from ÂŁ1050 to ÂŁ1300, and the 4090 ranges from ÂŁ1449 to ÂŁ1800. ÂŁ1800+ for some models, depending on the retailer.
But wait. Nvidia told us the 2080 Ti was a 4K card, and that the 3080 was an 8k card. Were they ... exaggerating by chance?
Lol. Well, yes and no. Nvidia absolutely exaggerates their products and marketing. However, products shift over time. So a 4K card today may not be a 4K card in 5-7 years from now.
4K card, 8K card, that don't means nothing. You can always run GTA San Andreas at 8K
hey i enjoyed the video and was just wondering what software you are running in the top left of the screen to show the temp fps etc it seems to be something similar to msi afterburner but on game screen. side not its also crazy that you can even buy graphics cards now at retail 1080ti 2080ti 3080ti were all double retail at a point
Is it out of the box experience without any exe(game) targeted optimizations in nvidia cp ? [ looking at the ac:vh frame graph it seems so ], My personal experience I was almost always able to get 5-15fps and much more stable frame times on 1660 super with just 5min web search for optimal game settings.
Currently still swaying between 80/90 upgrade and thanks for the video.
4080 is absolutely a 4K card, however for me personally, I am sticking with 1440 to get the most out of it. I do not want to rebuild my pc for at least 3 more years.
I think unless you have a massive screen 1440p is the way to go plus everything on max even ray tracing with no compromises
1440p is the true sweetspot these days.
I disagree 4K gives you so much more clarity and detail, on high texture settings it becomes obvious. And usually people can run 4K on today's graphics cards just turn the shadows down a notch etc. But more importantly outside of gaming you'll have a higher resolution for videos, movies, documents, all the other things you use your PC for.
Nice video and info. Cingrats in your channel growth. Keep it up
Thank you! I appreciate it!
I went team red, 7900XTX but I didn't do it to win a pissing contest. The 4080 is the chosen challenger for the 7900XTX according to AMD. I can confirm, there aren't many titles I can't run at 4K. Most of the ones I couldn't run at 4K at launch got patched in a month or two so I could. Games can't be confused with movies. You don't go play a game once on opening weekend, then never look back. That's the reason most of us game.
I can't recommend a 4080 because I didn't buy one. I'm not about to bad mouth it either. if 4080 was the caliber of card you were going for, it's the one you should have bought.
Ever since the 4080 launched I thought the performance was awesome. The 4080 is a great card in terms of specs and performance. The only thing that was holding the it back was and still is the price. If it launched at $999 I think it would of been a banger especially against the RX 7900 XTX for the same price. Great video as always my guy. I'm looking forward more reviews.
At $1100 the 4080 is a great deal, but now that AMD has Starfield Premium ($100) with the 7900xtx, they should lower it to $999
Undecided bc my TV is freesync, but the 4080 has better RT and DLSS 3.5
Why would Nvidia lower their price to match that of the 7900 XTX if the 4080 is objectively a better overall product, and still outsells the 7900 XTX 10 to 1? I'd gladly pay ~200 more for an Nvidia card over the glitchy and always "but it will get better with time" AMD. I also think the whole price issue is silly. Look at us. The people, in general. We have no problem dropping $1000+ every year on the exact same phone we already have, but a $1200 GPU that should last us several years is outrageous? IDK guys, we need to re-evaluate our priorities.
@carrickdubya4765 The 4080 is a terrible deal at $1100. It would be a good deal at $800 and maybe $900 for premium AIB versions such as the ROG STRIX and SUPRIM X, but that is pushing it. The 4080 has good performance, but it doesn't offer the halo performance you get from the 4090. It should not be over $900, no matter what. Nvidia has tricked people into thinking $1100 is a good price for the 4080, and the 3080 had an MSRP of $700. The 4080 has an MSRP of $1200. A $500 price increase in one generation is fucking pathetic.
â@@carrickdubya4765I do not know what yoh have been smoking but i do not want any of it , another one that belives in all the marketing bollox this gpu should be ÂŁ750 thats still ÂŁ100 more than the 3080 launched at
â@@BETEP-gw7qpI won't go AMD GPUs either due to drivers being worse, slower to be fixed, and to some extent lagging behind technology development. It's fine they are worse at ray tracing or AI graphics (DLSS equivalent features) if cheap enough but that's the thing. Must be a big discount.
They are fine on the driver front for the right gamers. If someone plays just recent AAA stuff they generally do the trick promptly. Its the older and AA stuff that they don't bother with.
Look at RuneScape, a 2 decade old game and still near the most played MMO, had a good year stretch of crashes on AMD drivers without rolling way back far enough to not play current AAA. WTF. Seriously. For me it's stuff like that which makes AMD not worth it outside of batting half price vs an Nvidia equivalent.
I believe the only reason they bother with PC GPUs at all is to stay capable enough to sell budget small form factor GPUs for consoles. It enables them to stay just a few years behind which is about the best consoles ever shoot for so they remain able to entirely control that massive segment of the gaming market.
AMD actually has an immense market share in graphics for gaming. It's just not in PCs and only some generations in laptops.
I'm curious if Intel manages to take hold in the budget segment for more than a discreet GPU generation if they might actually underbid AMD in consoles and steal their whole lifeblood. Probably not a good outcome long term for consumers but I'd sure get a laugh.
Even taking the inflation in mind, the RTX 4080 should have cost max. 850 USD. Setting that aside, it is definitely a 4K GPU, even without using DLSS.
I agree all around.
I own a 4080 & game on a m32u 4k 144hz monitor. I LOVE gaming at 4k & mostly, the 4080 allows me to game between 90hz-144hz. Sometime I use "High" instead of Ultra & honestly can't tell the difference. Thanks for the video man
I have the m28u with a 3090. Mostly play slightly older games. I'll get the 5090 next and 8k 144hz or whatever comes out.
Thank you! Ultra is diminishing returns. High is more than fine.
@@xpodx m28u has a crappy firmware, I have one and I was obliged to flash it with a modified F10 firmware to get it working right
@@yves1926 oh weird. Never had an issue with mine.
@@xpodx It's not really an issue, but the overdrive is much too strong with this monitor, which cause eye strain
Hey Erock, what casing are you using? looks cool.
Interesting to see a few years ago the 1080Ti was considered a 4K card, graphics are evolving and we aren't going to leave 4K soon, looks like 1440p will be the new 1080p and 4K still be hard to run unless you get the most expensive cards. But honestly the real important thing is to have fun.. I remember finishing CP 2077 playing 1080p fsr with only 25-35fps and genuinely had fun..
Hell yeah dude my pc if old too i play on low to medium settings but i still enjoy the games lol
Also important to take into account regional price differences between the two GPUs. Most people from NA say "just get the 4090" as if they're talking about a 50-100 dollar difference. In my country, the difference between a 4080 and a 4090 in retail markets is (still) a whole 500-600 euros.
Making the choice to upgrade from my 2060 to the 4080 was super easy. The performance jump is pretty insane.
Incredibly valid point. However, even here in NA, the difference between a 4080 and 4090 MSRP is $400.
@@ErockOnTech Yeah, I think whether or not that's a huge jump in price depends entirely on your budget as well.
Some folks can totally afford to have the "if I'm paying 1200 for a GPU, what's another 400 bucks?" mindset.
I do miss the days of sub-1000 80-series cards, though. I was able to build a whole top of the line system for the price of a 4080 back in 2014. GTX 980, 4790k and all.
Suppose that's inflation, post-COVID shortages & scalpers all having compounding effects. Sucks, lol.
Agreed. My MSI Suprim X 4080 was $1999AUD when I bought it months ago, and the Suprim X 4090 was $3299AUD. For someone that games on a 3440x1440 monitor and has a 5800x3d, the 4090 just didnât make sense.
Im buying the 4080 for 1440p 170hz single player max settings with raytracing
Awesome! Thatâll be a good fit!
@@ErockOnTech thank u man .
I feel like people underestimate the 4080 because of the performance gap between it and the 4090, compared to the 3080 and 3090 which are pretty close in performance. But that's just due to the limitations of Ampere; cramming in more wattage for a few extra frames.
If you think about it, the numbers make sense. The 4090 is equivalent to two 3080s, and the 4080 is equivalent to two 3070s. This way there's room for a hypothetical 4080 Ti to be put in the middle, which would mean 15% more performance per-tier, and that sounds fair to me. I don't get why people were bashing on it saying it's not a true 80-Class card, and that the 4090 is the only true next-gen GPU.
The only thing wrong here is that the price ain't right, but that's obvious already.
Regardless, my experience with the 4080 FE using DLSS 3 has been fantastic, and is definitely worthy of being called a 4K GPU.
The 4090 is almost twice as fast as a 3090 in some demanding applications.
Well said. I agree. The 4080 was underestimated.
its being underestimated because the price. its a 50% increase over the 3080 which is rescpectable, but its also 71% more expensive..... you the problem there ? lol the performance increase doesnt match the price increase. the difference in performace between the 2080 and 3080 was around the same but had the exact same price !! its honestly ridiculous. the card should of been $800 at the most lol then it would of been seen as a decent card. so untill its under atleast $900 its not a great card unless you like being taken advantage of
This why I subbed to you a few months ago, you helped me a lot with considering what to get, doubt you'd remember me as it's been a while and I don't really remember what video it was on but you did respond to me about me getting that 3080, I got it used and then returned it shortly after understanding what kind of standards I'd want for PC gaming(120fps+ on avg 1440p maxed out), and now I'm saving up the money to possibly get a 4080 used or new as I'm still building my PC, Just curious, do you think it was worth getting that 7800x3D? because I was thinking about just getting idk maybe a 7600x as I heard it was still way faster than the 5800x3d and I'm building into the AM5 platform, like is the extra money even worth the frames as a gamer? rn as I see it on PC part picker it's a $120 more than the 7600x(this being $230) (yours being $350) Like I'm not too sure if the upgrade is necessary but Ig I'd have to look at hardware unboxed for an answer then but, your input would still be appreciated! and also any tips of any kind related to building this PC would be greatly appreciated!
I see so many comments, yes it is hard to remember every user name. But I understand the 3080. Itâs a good card for sure. But if your standards are for more, then I understand and respect that entirely.
As for the 7800X3D, itâs great. Itâs the fastest gaming CPU on the market. It even beats the 13900k on average. So I think it makes sense to pair it with the 4080. But the 7600x is more cost efficient and itâll perform just fine at 1440p with the 4080. Youâre ok either way you want to go. If you go with the 7600x, Iâll recommend looking for a bundle deal of some kind.
I am like you for my targeted FPS overall, at least for 1440p. I too usually aim for 120fps. For me, my goal is just to stay above 100fps overall. 90ish FPS i can sorta handle. But, anything below 90fps i can start telling the difference in FPS performance. Especially once i start getting to 60fps range, thats when everything starts looking stuttery for me.
I usually have to be a mix of ULTRA to High graphic settings, in order to stay 120fps range with my 3080 @ 1440p 165hz. I truly see the benefits with my 165hz monitor, once i start staying around the 100 to 120fps mark.
Thatâs awesome! I agree! Thanks for sharing with me.
4080 is perfectly fine. DLSS quality isnât even a noticeable difference unless you are really looking for it. 4K/60 in all games. Iâm even fine with using FG in certain games if I have to, which so far is only Cyberpunk and Starfield with the DLSS FG mod. I donât see many games giving the 4080 issues until next generation unless they are poorly optimized, which unfortunately happens all too often these days. But in that case a game isnât worth my time or money until it gets fixed and by that time it will likely be on sale lol.
I was thinking about the rtx 4080 or rtx 4090 for only this game msfs 2020 on 4k what you think is best ?
hello
can anyone help with this one
just got myself a new oled samsung tv , i am just going to watch movies and series
what is the minimum gpu for my new pc ?? i want as good pic quality as possible
thanks :)
4080 is a very strong card, hopefully, it will cost less than $1000 during the upcoming holidays
Did you watch the end of the video? I show you eBay listings. 4080s are selling for $900 and below.
@@ErockOnTech yeah but i prefer new parts, have never been a fan of open box and used products
@@shasha023 EBay now has extremely good buyer protection. Money talks. Sometimes itâs worth considering a lightly used item. Just saying.
@ErockOnDeck thanks, the thing is Iâm in South Africa so I donât have much trust but I saw my local PC parts place has made the 4080 cheaper, itâs about R27000 about $1400
I just bought a lightly used 4080 FE on hardwareswap for 950. I recommend others who want one do the same
Just bought it in SUPER version to replace 3080 10GB for 1440p ultrawide 21:9 monitor. I was criticized due to "slow" i5 11400f processor, but to be honest I think people are fixed on high fps, but what I WANT is stable 60+ RT ultra or high/ultra experience. Man, people are playing console games 30fps and I can play them 60-90fps ultrawide and add DLSS or/and Frame Gen on top of that, THAT IS AWESOME
As long as youâre happy with your gaming experience, thatâs what matters most!
My hangup with the 4080 (really want to upgrade my 3060 ti) is the fire hazard with the power connectors. Has that been resolved? If so, how would you even know if the unit you buy has the corrections?
The 4080 didn't really have this problem. That was happening to 4090s because they can pull 450w watts and more.
What do u use to get these stats
The quality of comments in your section is high. You have really good followers it seems. I subbed, hope I don't bring down the average đ
Lol
@@Wobbothe3rd not you naturally đ
Thank you! I appreciate that!
I don't care about 4k. I game at 1440p and I love it. But i bought the 4080. Why? Because I don't want to ever have to worry about compromising a damn thing at 1440p for the next 4 or 5 years. Basically until I need a new PC which I just replaced earlier this year. And I didn't need a 4090 to do that. The 4080 was sitting there so I grabbed it. Couldn't be happier with it.
Thatâs awesome and I understand completely. And as I said in the video, the 4080 dominates at 1440p.
thank you for a good 4 K review, however, I lack the performance in VR such as Primax Crystal
I have pretty much exactly the same spec as you, just waiting on my cpu which will be an upgrade from the 7600, I also have an lg 42 inch c2 so I only need 120fps max but anything over 60 Iâm more than happy with
sir I have some issue in games like texture loading slowly I can see in my eyes step by step loading my new RTX 4080 card also doing random black screen issue so please help me to fix solution ?
I bought my 4k monitor months ahead of the rest of my build, in anticipation of upgrading, to avoid the financial hit all at once. So, for many months, I ran a 4k monitor driven only by a RTX 2070. I expected I would just have to run everything at a lower res, but it actually performed much better than I anticipated. Most every game from 2018 and earlier, ran at native 4k without issue, and most graphically intensive games from 2018 & onward had DLSS, which at least made 4k 60 fps possible on the 2070. I have a RTX 4090 now, and it's literally 4x the performance. But I reject the notion that a less capable card can't do 4k, as I got by for months on only a 2070, even if it wasn't ideal.
Oh wow thatâs incredibly fascinating. I really appreciate you sharing your story and experience with this. Thank you.
I have the same experience but I use a 2070 super. I'm thinking of upgrading to 3090 or 4080... which one?! @ErockOnTech
very solid video. informative, broad in scope but focused on topic, truly answering the questions people like me wanna know.
I bought an alienware aurora r14 from dell while it was on clearance a week ago, and when it came in the HDMI port was dead on arrive (trust me, i tried), so after calling dell support i asked to do an exchange for "equal or better machine". I recently found out they are replacing it with a R15 that ups my 3080 to a 4080, and i am ecstatic. I plan on playing on my 4k hdr roku tv and i can deal with 60fps for the very top demanding games (Ark, looking at you), but ideally I agree with the diminishing returns lower than 90fps, and it seems like this card will get the job done if its not bottlenecked by ram and cpu. Woo!
Thank you for the kind words! Much appreciated! Oh wow that is a nice upgrade for you. Iâm sorry you had that headache but it seems to have worked out in your favor! Enjoy!
1440p ultrawide. I Love my 4080.
My boy with the sponsorship! đ
I genuinely love this desk.
Upgraded from 6900xt at launch. Happy to fully utilize my older 5800x3d and 750w psu at 4k. I agree that there is no single true way of pc building. There are just too many possible scenarios. Great informative video btw đ
Oh there is most certainly a true way of building. It's called price to performance.
@@x8jason8x use case, budget constraints and parts in hand can make it complicated imo. Yet some bad/problematic models can be ruled out in advance.
Iâm currently using the Red Devil 6950 XT and considering the 4080. But I keep going back to the 7900 XTX Sapphire bc it has (2) HDMI 2.1 Ports which would work perfectly with my monitors
I run my 4080 in 4K-60 no problem. It was an upgrade from my 4k 970 ( Yes they called that a 4k card when it came out ) and am very happy with that performance uplift.
What about the 7900xtx with your setup would it be comparable, it's alot cheaper right now.
I have both the 4080 and 3080 systems side by side and love both. I play a lot of sims and single player @ 4k 60+fps on 2 Alienware ultra wides and love it. Not thrilled with the 3080's 10gig vram, but with minor tweaks has not been as big a deal as I first thought, for now? I have a gigabyte 4080 also and my experience is spot on with yours. The 4090 was $400 plus more at the time of purchase, but was way more than I wanted to spend. I may get a 5090 to replace the 3080 or skip next gen altogether, not sure? How my grandsons age into the online gaming eco systems will let me know what and when to pull the trigger. Because of their age they are only allowed to play on weekends right now. They must learn the value of work ethic and education first. Take care.
I agree. These are values I plan to teach my son as well. Work first. Play later. But all work and no play makes Johnny a dull boy as they say.
@@ErockOnTech so true.
Hi, i own the Tuf Gaming 3090 RTX OC, do you recommand me this 4080? Or should i keep my Tuf Gaming 3090?
Keep the 3090. I have the 3080 and just upgraded to the 4080s. But it was a close call to just keeping it until next gen. Your card is that bit more powerful that I would hold onto it for two generations and get a 5080. Make sure you try out the FSR3 mod on games like cyberpunk and Alan Wake. It breathes new life into the 30 series.
What is the program used for FPS count?
MSI Afterburner.
Hey Dude and comment Team!
In the process of building my 4080, and I have the following going for me: Ive purchased the ASRock Z790 TAICHI, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 A-RGB, MSI Gaming X Trio 4080 16GB & Corsair 7000D Airflow Black. To round it off I'm getting the Intel Core i9-13900k, G-Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64GB (2x 32GB) DDR5 5600 CL 28 and the Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1200w.
I wish I could get the last three Items sooner. haha.
Another 6 months and I'm there đ
I forgot to ask my question.
@ErockOnTech I see you tested on a Television - Would you suggest I do the same?
Well you have to be careful with TVs. A lot of TVs say they are 120 hz but really they are not. Make sure itâs a legit HDMI 2.1 connection. But honestly, monitors have gotten so much better recently. Iâd suggest a good gaming monitor.
@@ErockOnTech Thank you! Also - have you noticed that some 4080's don't come with a HDMI 2.1a output?
Went in on the research for my rig - so the MSI Range of 4080's always have HDMI 2.1a. Many 4080's don't.
What's the impact of that?
Are there still melting issues with 4090, planning new PC soon, and if i get new ATX3.0 psu, with 1 cable to use and connect with my 4090, do i need anything else, endless reddit post about cable mod adapters etc...
The short version is the melting issue is mostly subsided right now. I have not yet heard of any ATX 3.0 cables melting. Itâs mostly been the Nvidia adapter that comes in the box or the cable mod adapter. I think youâre fine.
@@ErockOnTech Tnx, i plan maybe for MSI ventus 4090 as it is cheapest where i live, and one of smallest 4090-s, 450W capped but tbh i like it even better that way. Here in Europe prices is crazy atm for GPU-s, 4080 cost way too much for what i get , gaming mostly at 4k oled.
Solid breakdown. Professionally done. Surprised you don't have more subs.
Well, seems that nobody wants to acknowledge that there are phases in gaming that it is determined by the consoles and engines.
We just started the 2nd phase of this era with UE5.
Consoles set the standards. Itâs sad but true. The Xbox One X and PS4 Pro pushed the narrative of 4K. Because of that, now everyone talks about 4K and expects all products to do 4K. Itâs ridiculous. Consoles gamers got the worst of it. The Xbox One couldnât even do 1080p 60 FPS on most games. They had no business launching a refresh of the Xbox One and targeting 4K. The refresh should have targeted a locked and guaranteed 1080p 60 FPS experience on all games.
@@ErockOnTech I agree with what you said. My perspective is from this:
DX 12 has at the moment 3 eras: the last phase of PS4 with demanding games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider and others. For example, you require a 2080 Ti or better to play this game at 4K Highest settings to achieve 60 FPS.
Then the first PS5 era of the last DX12 games running with UE4 or other engines. This was more demanding, you need at least a RTX 4080 for 4K or faster.
The second phase we are right now with DX12 and UE5. Where the first "modernish" looking game and to quote others or 50 series owners, "unoptimized", like Remnant 2 you need a 7900 XTX or 4090 for that 4K Ultra and maybe not even reaching 60 FPS.
This is all my memory of watching benchmarks since the resurgence of PC gaming since 2016, just some examples.
â@@takehirolol5962Very True. I've already comes to terms that my 4090 will be a 1440p gpu very soon. It will need upgraded to a 5090 in the very near future.
@@jjlw2378 Me as well, I saving for a new Windows 11 build in 2025 for a RTX 5000 or RX 9000 series GPU.
â@@jjlw2378 that's pretty pessimistic. The AI features work really well on the 4090 and should allow for many years use. HUB has also commented that 16GB will be the standard for many years to come especially considering the lag in software development. If you must have the best then that's a different story and the 5090 etc. won't be released till 2025, probably because of the AI boom and the lack of competition from AMD.
RTX 4080 is a 4K Gaming GPU
RTX 4090 is a High-Refresh 4K Gaming GPU
I love the 4080 for my 3440x1440 monitor. I would have gone with a 4090 if I was using a 4K monitor, as I like high refresh rates.
I just ordered the parts for a complete PC build minus the GPU as I am waiting for the 4080 super to launch as I am un willing to pay 2k plus for a 4090 lol. This video has shown me that I will be very happy with the 4080 super. Thank you for the great work
I use my 3080 which I got recently used to play single player games at 4k going high instead of ultra and using dlss quality gets me by in everything I've played so far (hogwarts legacy, cyberpunk 2077)
Hogwarts I played at ultra with rt reflections on
Good enough for me since I don't play single player games as they release and wait for them to get optimised
Sounds good. As long as you're happy with it.
i got one 3 weeks ago. plays 4k no problem on my rig. love this card
i like 1440p just because i can move all the graphics sliders to max and get crazy high fps, especially with fg
i have a 4080 on a 3840x1600 75Hz monitor and it can easily do 60-70fps without upscaling or framegen in most games, and dlss quality when needed basically locks anything short of cyberpunk to 150+ (and 60 for rt)
fantastic card, people who hate on it for the die size really underestimate the gains of switching to tsmc from samsung especially on efficiency
i splurged on the noctua edition after saving up for months and i donât regret it, i can easily see myself using it for the next 4-5 years, especially given the likely slowdown in performance gains at the top top end. the âultraâ tier of graphics cards right now (4090, 7900 xtx, 4080) are all capable of driving way more performance than 4K60 which is the sweet spot for the cinematic high-fidelity aaa games people get these cards for
How does Infinite with those settings hold up in Campaign and BTB?
I had prebuilt 1390k with a 4090 from Corsair and had it for about 2 weeks. Before starting overheating shutting down. Most likely it was a faulty build but, I realized I paid 4k for that system. I also game on a TV 65-inch oled Samsung S95b that can only do 120hz. So most likely I'm capping myself so decided to return the system and get a replacement from NZXT with a 4080 instead.
I wanna be realistic the 4090 is the true king in 4k ultra it will brute force itself to over 120fps in 90% of games that are well optimized. So I don't crank up all my settings with my 4080 I usually just go with high settings to medium like on shadows if I use raytracing well I use DLSS on quality. I'm content with it least I'm getting way more than I would with my PS5 or Xbox Series X so I'm happy with the results. Also saved about $1,400 bucks that's always a major win.
Is a 7900 xtx worth it for $1,049? (Sapphire Nitro+) or should I just go a bit further and get the msi 4080 white for $1,269? 24GB seems like a decent step up from 16GB and for less money. Also playing at 1440P 165hz. Having such a hard time decidingđ thanks in advance and have a good day.
I'm with you. Trying to decide whether to get that Sapphire Nitro or just keep my MSI 4080. The Nitro is about $340 less.
@@MadMaxx.1977 yeah the price tag on the 7900 xtx is pretty tempting especially with that specific model. $300+ is a good chunk to save too.
The 4080 is superior to the xtx if you factor in 1% lows and power draw, and you can overclock a 4080, unlike an XTX...
Same here, at the moment I'm feeling like that 16 GB of VRAM is going to be the sweetspot for a while, and I much prefer the features Nvidia has to offer, but I haven't ruled out AMD either.
Is the 4080 a 4k GPU? Sure. Would I personally buy it for 4k? No. I feel like if you're serious about running at 4K, you may as well just get the 4090. Not because you necessarily need it to run the vast majority of existing games at 4k (you don't), but it gives you quite a bit more overhead for upcoming titles, and you may wish you had that extra overhead when those new titles come out. The 4080 just feels like a compromise, and if I'm paying $1200 for a GPU anyway, I don't want to compromise.
I actually agree with you. I recently purchased a 4090. While the 4080 and 4090 are very close at 1440p; the 4090 is a lot faster at 4K. Itâs beyond impressive actually.
@@ErockOnTech - True that. I've had mine since December and it still surprises me at times how nuts this thing is at higher resolutions. I currently use it with a dual 4k TV config at 7680X2160@60hz and it runs even that with performance to spare in most games. The 4090 is just too good at 4k and above for me to consider the 4080 viable at its current price point.
@@ErockOnTech You sell the 4080 yet? I'd be interested to know how fast it resells, how much, etc.
@@x8jason8x I did sell it. It sold in about 4 days. $900.
@@x8jason8x I wouldnât go below $900 because at that specific time, the eBay sold listings were all $900. In my video today, I show you that listings are close to $900 but technically a little below that now.
I love my 4080, it did come as a prebuild from lenovo(i9 13900kf liquid cooled) that i just couldnt let pass, for under $2,350 with 3 year warranty onsite repair, taxes and shipping included. Ive had it for 4 months now, the perforance to price ratio i believe its more then worth it.
i bought the 4080 and the fps is so much more i upgraded from a gtx1650 and my cpu is a ryzen 7 7800x3d i upgraded from a i5 4590 that i had downgraded from a ryzen 3 3100 and i have 32gb ddr5 ram that i upgraded from 8 gb ddr3 that i had downgraded from 16gb ddr4. i use it for microsoft flight simulator 2020 at 1440p with frame generation at high quality addon airports and alot of traffic i get round about 50ish-70fps at a bit more than ultra settings i think at 1440p with frame generation (im cpu limited at heavy traffic and at high quality airports)
I have a 3080 ti from gigabyte, it bricked once and I RMAd, now its dying again. have to rma again, they will not refund the money unless it BREAKS THREE FREAKING TIMES. Im getting fed up and I need a card. I game at 4k on an OLED 120 gsync. Do you think spending the 1k+ on a 4080 is the best price? or do u think tweaking settings and going for a 4070 ti is the better bet? its saving like 400$
I love my 4080 so much
Because im running it at 4K (On my 48" LG C1, its such a beauty), I was able to get an Amd 7600x while not hurting my performance.
Even with my 3080 12GB I've been able to game 4k just fine, however, I am considering getting the 4080 Super just to get myself more in the 'sweet' spot for 4k. I'm fine with 60fps but I do get some performance hit with my 3080 and rely a lot on DLSS on some titles. I would like to push to 80 to 90fps as well if able.
Can you do the same thing with 7900xtx ? is 7900xtx 4k gpu ?
I no longer have that GPU. If I did, I would happily do that.
Just got a 4080. Literally a 3x improvement over my Titan X Pascal. Is it frustrating that Cyberpunk 2077 only pushes 13 fps on the benchmark with all the raytracing/path tracing on at native 4k ultra/psycho? Sure. It'll take 200 Tflops to do that at 60. However turning off path tracing, turning on DLSS quality and frame generation gets around 100 easily. 100 fps with RT on is great. Is DLSS in general perfect? Hell no, but it's good enough. Also The Witcher 3 can only hit around 35 fps maxed out native, but once again DLSS quality setting and frame gen kicks that up to 80+. I really wish there was less difference in the core count of the 4080 and 4090, it's pretty extreme how cut down the 4080 is. Should have been closer to 12000 cores instead of the 9728. I doubt we'll see a Ti variant.
definitley RTX 4080 is the best because of VRAM 16 GB for 1440p
I think then it comes to native 4K60 or maybe a little higher the 4080 is a good card for today's games. The 16GB buffer in 3-4 years is going to be a good question that we all can argue until our fingers bleed from typing. I can't see myself ever buying a 4090-cost card, but I would certainly debate spending the money on a 4080 or 7900 XTX for a 4-year 4K60 investment.
Not really much of a question. 16GB will be fine until consoles upgrade past 16GB which isn't going to happen in 3-4 years. As always the industry is held back by what the consoles can do.
That's why there was absolutely 0 issues with 8GB cards until the new consoles released. Before then 3-4GB was 100% fine until the previous consoles released that had 8GB ram.
For those of us who have been doing this game a long time the cycle is clear. Rule of thumb: Don't buy a GPU towards the end of a console generation unless it massively exceeds the current console generations memory/performance because game requirements are going to take a massive spike as soon as the next console generation hits.
I have a question and need some hand of helpđ . I recently bought an Alienware r15 with 4080.The performance is awesome I really like, but Iâm still using all this on my old FHD monitor(the new one is coming).
The question that I have : is it in general worth it?? Cuz Iâm like an ex-gamer sitting at the PC and playing Dota2 or CSđ đ
The only games I might play in future will be Stalker 2 and GTA6đ
I think I can get the same or close to 4080 performance from 4070ti and the combo is cheaper and saves me around $1k.
Should I change it or keep it??
Thanks for any thoughts
If it saves you $1,000 AND if you truly only play games like Dota2 and CS, then yes. Return it. Save the money.
@@ErockOnTech I think it will be max for what Iâm playing right now.
The new aurora r16 came up and actually I wanted to switch to it.
i-9 13900f and 4070ti doesnât look bad in combo and promise to to show a good performance.
Is it worth it??
Thank you for help
Lol i play at 4k on a 6800xt. I just tune my graphics settings. You can usually get 30% or more perf at a similar image quality by just optimizing the settings
I think you are right in your logic with the caveat that the end result is highly dependant on the specific game.
Just ordered my new gaming pc with the Rtx 4080. Will be paired with a 165hz 1440p monitor. Should be a great pair for aaa titles
Did you run on Windows 11 or 10? You mention 11 but then your first benchmark says 10.
Awesome content, I have a similar build with the 4080RTX and i9,13000
Thank you!
4080 owner here and LOVE IT! I also got a lot of pushback for purchasing the 4080, with some actually being quite nasty. What can I say⊠the PC community can be very toxic. Regardless, it was my money and I couldn't be happier with my gaming experience.
Pc community is mostly broke salty toxic fan boys sad these days
I agree 100%! I was criticized so much for buying a 4080. I hate to admit it but yes the PC community is very toxic actually. As a whole, the community comes up with certain narratives and if you step outside of that narrative, then youâre a bad guy. Itâs ridiculous. Consumers should buy the product that best fits their needs within their budget. Itâs that simple. But instead, the community expects us to buy a competitors potentially inferior product simply because itâs ânot Nvidia.â Smh
@@ErockOnTech 100%
@@ErockOnTech I know it's hard but I try to just ignore people who obviously have nothing productive to say. Nothing wrong with disagreements and differences of opinion, that can be interesting to discuss but sometimes some people dont even act like human beings the way they talk to one another and over what exactly, graphics cards? lol
@@TerraWare That is so true! Thank you. Itâs almost as if people are finding their identity in a graphics card that plays video games. Itâs a bit absurd.
hope you ain't sleeping on your oled motion pro high option!....I have the exact same setup as you 4080 + lg c1...if you can maintain a constant 99-100fps with frame gen on(technically 50), cap your fps at 50 in game or nvcp(make sure it's working, if uncapped you'll get some mild stutter when your frames go beyond 100)...gsync OFF (yes off! bfi doesn't work with it enabled), vsync OFF in game/ON in nvcp ...monitor set to native at 100hz (keep in mind the lag goes up the lower your resolution and the lower your refresh rate, so ultimately you want 120fps(60fps without frame gen enabled) ....enjoy...for lots of games we should be able to dldsr the shit out of them! now it's an 8k card bro! lol
Why didnt you test unreal engine 5 gamew like remant 2 ?
Lets hope for a pricedrop when the 500-series launches
4080 is a beast but ill wait for a 5080 my 3080 still has its legsđ
I understand completely!
I upgraded from the 3080 oc strix cus I could and though why not. But the 3080 is going well. The library of games you can play maxed with rt and the fact it's running new games like tlou at 4k 60 with dlss it's good. I get its funny I say this as I upgrade, but I do agree it has life in it for sure. Too much doom and gloom about that card for sure. But 50 series will be insane. I think I'll wait for the 60 series now.
I bought a 4080 for 4K gaming. My happy place is being able to play games at 4K@60fps max settings with ray tracing, but I can definitely settle for 30-60 fps as long as everything else is still the same. Also, the Founder's Edition of the 4080 only needs a 750W PSU which I already had. Many of us dream of getting the 4090, but so much comes along with that (unless you have these things already):
- Larger PSU to meet power requirements
- High-end CPU to get the best performance and avoid bottlenecks
- A motherboard that supports DDR5 (again performance related)
- A new case to fit the GPU
Once you've purchased all these things, you're going out of at least $2,500 before tax. Both GPUs are overpriced, but I couldn't spend the extra $400 for the 4090.
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I had to upgrade my PC case for the 4080 gigabyte gaming oc. The 4090 needs a 1000w power supply and chances are you will need to upgrade the CPU cus your bottlenecking if it's not good enough.
Same thing will apply for the 4080ti if it draws 450ish watts like the rumours say that's a PSU upgrade for most people and if it's 10 to 15% range of a 4090..cpu upgrade as well
Hidden costs of pc that is overlooked by content creators alot
@@c523jw7 appreciate the love đđż PC gaming is so expensive that I see why people go the console route or keep their current PC. Nowadays you even gotta have a high end GPU to sell that's no more than one generation behind just to even offset some of the cost to upgrade.
I think the issue is that you are running older games, so yeah 60 + fps. But playing jedi survivor etc it doesn't run 60 fps
Some games look better with DLSS on Quality than native, but no game looks better at native than either DLAA, which you can turn on in all games that support DLSS using DLSSTweaks, or, DLDSR + DLSS, so altho DLSS sometimes does look better than native, you do want a GPU that can support 4K 60 fps using a native resolution anyways, if possible. I think the 4080 is a solid option for that, but I wouldn't go lower than that. It is there, but... it doesn't have as much room as the 4090 for the future.
I'm glad you are enjoying your 4080 mainly for 4K. I'm still happy with my RTX 4070 FE as i prefer to game in 1440p/165hz using G-Sync and I like the frame generation DLSS feature on the 4000 series. No doubt 4080 is a 4K GPU for sure but as you said, its the price that's the problem.
Edit: Just to be clear, I'm very happy with my RTX 4070 and I don't need any fanboys telling me about my decision purchase because I did and I'm happy with my choice of the 4070. So take that fanboy nonsense soemwhere else!
Hey I've grown to like the 4070. I want to test it. Initially, it looked like a bad GPU. However, since we now have all the cards on the table, we can now see the 4070 is actually not so bad. I am happy you love it!
@@ErockOnTech Thanks Erock, you da manđ
@@davillain9974 Thank you đ
The 4080 for sure does do 4k quite well. I can't max out AC unity and get solid 60fps, so some games are challenging, but overall I'm impressed with the card
AC unity has shit optimization that's why. On the 4090, it hovers around 60-80 FPS in 4K
I am currently using a 3060ti bought it for around $800USD during the price hikes, waiting for 5 series because I want to experience all the new games at least in 60fps with RT ON.
No point buying a 4 series GPU which still breaks down with RTX on at 4K, and frame generation feature that introduces latency does not interest me just like DLSS.
As someone who plays at 4k with a 6950xt I can appreciate this sentiment. People generally overthink and/or overestimate what it takes to drive 4k even at 120hz. I can also understand as content creator to wanting CUDA acceleration, so honestly no issues there.đ
I am also one of the people who bought the $1200 RTX 2080 ti on release to "experience" 4k ray-tracing, whatever that's worth.
Like many others, I used to be dependent on CUDA for work purposes. Hopefully AMD ROCm can prove to be a turning point in that aspect.
DLSS 2 is better than FSR 2, that is a fact. With that said the 4080 is still a TERRIBLE purchase for the majority of users. Even if you have the mind boggling $1200 to throw at a GPU for gaming, the 7900 xtx would be faster in the majority of titles. On top of that, the 6950 xt (New/Used) or 3090 (Used) would be far superior than both current gen cards in terms of price to performance. Frame generation isn't worth the price, and the rasterization performance gap isn't as big as people try to make it seem (especially with an OC).
Hilariously none of this matters anyways since UE5 is apparently so difficult to run everyone needs to upgrade next release! đ±
Having this debate with myself right now. I just built a rig with a 4080. Iâm happy with their upscaling tech. 500 bucks more now when all I really care about is 4k60 or a 1000 bucks in two years to move to the next **80 which will keep me at ultra settings. That next 5080 card will likely be better than the current 4090 and my 4080 might have some resale value.
that's because of that "mentality" that they fucked up the naming this generation. Never bet on the 70, 80 name, etc. We're going to get f*****.
when the 4080 came out and I seen the price. I bought 2 4090s and kept the one I wanted the most.
I don't want to spend so much, but decided I need to stretch to a 4080 because I want 16GB+ on a card to for 4k on a 48" oled, (and a 4090 is a little too expensive).
My question is how do the consoles manage certain games at 4k 120fps whereas we struggle with cards 4080 worth twice as much as a the console for the card alone and with the technology on the card.
I was only able to afford 3080 and still a great card , someday Iâll wait for whatever card in the future comes to upgrade again. ( upgraded from gtx 1060 to 3080 )
why you did not add 7900xtx into the picture?
4080 was tested / released prior to 7900xtx. The graph is from that time frame.
Also, all sources are in the description.
sorry I just got you in my recomendations
Great review! New released games like starfield and immorrtals of aveum will bring the 4080 to its knees in 4k with native res.
One thing no one can question about the 40 series is their incredible efficiency
4k/60 in everything i play and usually that equals the gpu loafing along with plenty of overhead. the card is dumb expensive but the 4080 is a beastly beast.
Yeah, I went with amd because of price and overall performance, as most of the games I play do not have DLSS or RT. But holy the nvidia 40 series cards are so power efficient.
I run a 4080 with a 13700kf. My monitor is an LG C1 and most games I play can hit 4k 120fps or higher on ultra. But there are some drops in certain games especially if RT is enabled. It runs cool and quiet but I'll be honest I've been considering a 4090. Good video, subscribed.
Sitting here with a rtx 3080 12 gb and a 4k 144hz monitor and every single pc game I own gets well over 60 fps. Most sit around 70 to 120 fps at 4k, only a handfull see 144hz at 4k maxed out, but those games arent graphical heavy.
4k 60hz is easy with a RTX 3080 12gb. Waiting for the rtx 5080 to upgrade.
I have a PNY 4080 that plays everything I need fine at 4k. No need for anything until 5 series. Totally fine with mine.
Yes, the 4080 is a good performing card. PNY is a good brand as well.
Meanwhile I game at 3440x1440 on a 4090. And I love it!
I don't regret my 4080 one bit. And while I do use it in 4K, sometimes? I mostly opt 1800p+RT where possible.
Can't you run your RAM at 6000 with the new agesa update?
My motherboard hasnât yet received that bios update. Iâm waiting for it! Iâm excited to try it.
@@ErockOnTech You're on the 7800X 3D huh? I'm running the same CPU on a Strix X670E-A mobo with 6000 mhz memory but manually set it to 6200mhz and seems to be working just fine. Congrats on your new card though. I added a Nitro+ 7900XTX to my 4 card collection and yeah got some criticism by the internet oh well lol.
@@TerraWare That sounds about right on the criticism from the internet. Yes, I have the 7800X3D now. My memory controller wasnât able to hit 6000 Mhz. So I am at 5200 MHz. Iâm waiting for the bios update to fix this for me.
@@ErockOnTech It may be a good idea for a video to maybe to do a side by side of what the differences could be. With the v-cache cpu's they say ram speed isnt as important for gaming but who knows.
@@ErockOnTech I would love to see you try it! Would be a great update on AM5 content!
Seriously considering the 4080 now that itâs down to 1000 dollars as of August 11, 2023. But I keep going back and forth to the 7900 XTX Sapphire Nitro because I love that it has (2) HDMI 2.1 Ports !!! Ugh
I bought and tried them both. I returned the XTX as SOME titles really work well with DLSS3 and RT.
@@Dlo_BestLife Thanks for this info, mate! I've been trying to decide between the MSI 4080 Suprim X and that Sapphire Nitro 7900XTX. The MSI is about $300 more expensive, but RT and DLSS3 are pretty cool features to have in the bullpen as more games incorporate them.
The 4080 is superior to the xtx if you factor in 1% lows and power draw, amd you can overclock a 4080 pretty far...
@@Wobbothe3rd Iâm definitely leaning towards the 4080 bc Iâm using an AMD card currently and wanna try Nvidia
I returned my XTX and bought a 4080.
My options are 4070 for 700, 4070ti for 900 and 4080 for 1200 and I was gonna go for the 4070ti but I am leaning more towards the 4080 now, really looking at the increased longevity from the VRAM size, with current games already reaching 12 GB. What do you think?
Personally I might not shoot for it unless itâs a bit cheaper. Iâm tryna see if I can get a steal come Amazon prime day. The xlr8 is a good choice
@@nolyfe4814 I got the gigabyte gaming oc 4080 for 1225. Thought about it a lot and decided that there's no point in making a "budget" decision right now as I have the money and it is gonna be my gpu for many years to come. Even considered the 4090 for a bit but that was a little out of budget.
some 4080s are getting really close to 1000 even these days, if you can hold out a little more you might see the msi ventus/zotac airo models drop down to it
the 16gb is definitely worth ponying up for imo, i think both 4070s wonât age as well for that reason
Nobody want to show what the graphic card is OK for 4K 60fps - do we need nVidia 4080 or 7900XT is enough.
Not sure I follow.