Installing Hayward skimmer, the best upgrade possible, Coleman Intex Best Way pool,
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2020
- The pump/filter your pool came with is just barely up to the job of keeping the water clean. Adding a Hayward skimmer improved the pump operation and pool water clarity.
I tried the intex clamp on skimmer first, it actually made the pool pump work harder and reduced the flow of water. The Hayward skimmer increased the flow of water and reduced the load on the pump.
the second unit on my plumbing is a salt cell, my pool has a low concentration of salt in it. the salt cell generates chlorine to treat the water.
those of you needing to find the adapter from the threads on the PVC to the Intex hoses, search the web for "40mm to 1 1/2 Inch Conversion Kit (For Intex and Bestway Pools)"
I found mine on Amazon, and it's also sold on Ebay, pool supply sites are a good source as well. however, due to covid, everyone is buying pools and they're getting hard to find.
Thank you so much for sharing this video. It made the installation easy and quick. The flow is greatly improved and the vacuum works so much better. I was looking at getting a better pump but now I don't have too.
I have to say you have done an excellent job explaining and showing your upgrades thank you so much. Your video will be helping alot of people with their pools.
just sending out a big thank you for your video.Followed your advice to keep my coleman input by drilling out for the eye from the hayward kit. huge difference in water flow.also hard plumbed my skimmer getting rid of the hoses to the intake ports and putting in a shutoff valve for the skimmer as you recommended. Have been bummed by everyone being out of lower priced sand filters but with the new skimmer setup i know i can keep my pool in great shape for quite a while. for people who want to hard plumb their skimmer to their original coleman type pump,you don't need any expensive adapers.The skimmer side takes regular 1 1/2 pvc pipe and the pump side can be made to work fine with a cantex electrical 1 1/2 inch box connector. I got mine at ace hardware for $1.99.It's a little scary when you cut the hose to get the hose screw on end part, but the cantex part fits perfectly into the part and works great.I sanded the lettering off as recommended by another you tuber and also left a little gap when i glued on my white pvc 1 1/2 coupling so you can still turn the screw on intex part without it turning your pvc as recommended by another you tuber.Anyway brilliant hack of the eyeball fitting and intensely grateful for your help. One tip for folks getting ready to install the skimmer. I took one of the extra pan head screws they give you and the night before i installed the skimmer I threaded the screw into all the holes i needed to use to attach the skimmer to the side of the pool. That way when I actually attached the skimmer it was easy to screw in the screws since the extra screw had already put threads in the plastc screw holes of the skimmer which do not come threaded. I only threaded the screw in about 2/3 of the way in so the screw would get a good bite into the skimmer holes when iactually put it together.
I want to say you did a fantastic job explaining how to it , I purchase one a few weeks ago and have been afraid to do it, But now I get it done by my self without asking for help
Thanks for the video. I was worried about installing one of these on my pool but after the video I was confident and it was an easy install. Also thanks for showing that I needed the hose adapter before I started it. It made things real easy. Thank you so much.
Just used this method worked like a charm! Thanks from a dad that now looks like a champ!
You don't split the gasket!!!! It's made like so when you cut the liner the gasket, onside is on the outside and the other side goes on the inside of the pool. Then you screw the frame and the skinner box together. The gasket makes a water tight seal.
Didn't he read the instructions? Oof...
LMFAO
@@fxwithterry Hey, how did you end up over here? Are you looking to setup a pool Terry? Lol.
Goood observation!
The skimmer butterfly gasket is made for a metal wall pool. The butterfly gasket goes over the metal wall and liner to prevent water from rusting the metal wall.
Splitting the gasket in this instance is acceptable, otherwise you need to cut the skimmer hole bigger to fit t butterfly gasket. It would be difficult to cut accurately.
I usually buy the old style s piece gasket to do this. This is done so you have a guide to cut the hole in the liner, as it’s not made for a soft side pool.
The problem with installing in an Intex (or Bestway) pool is you have is you have to lower the water significantly, therefore I covered my skimmer hole and went back to the Intex style skimmer. 😊
I did this modification this weekend. Man, every time I poked a hole through the liner for the screws I was nervous, but I finished up without a hitch and the water is flowing and filtering much better. My wife and I are going to go through the vacuum process tonight. The only thing I bought extra was a valve to put at the stock pump and a hose to go from that valve to the skimmer.
Best video because it was the easiest to follow! We put ours in today, and I literally jumped for joy when I watched the grass get sucked into the skimmer! It’s the little things in life!😂
Just did this to my colman 24 52 big difference immediately. Running the intex sand filter. Thank you for your tips
You have the skill of a surgeon. It is so satisfying watching you cut that hole for the skimmer. Well done, sir. Well done!
Surgeon? Not so much. He was actually quite careless with that razor
@@MrBmxbrawler It's in the eye of the beholder.
I install vinyl liners for a living, I would have no idea
@@MrBmxbrawlerIt is what it is.
Awesome...Thank you for sharing...just put the Intex skimmer on as I didn't understand others video on the Hayward and was nervous about cutting the pool...might have to reconsider.
Awesome. Thanks for taking the time to share your success!!
Best Video I've found yet Thank You.
Hey bud thanks for putting this out. You kept it simple and made my job easier.👊🏾
Did this to my pool, best upgrade ever! I cut the outlet for the skimmer and the inlets for my exhaust.
your video was more helpful than the directions that came with my skimmer had it not been for you i may not have gotten this done thank you on a side note holy crap i cant believe your able to put this thing together on your own i needed another person to help me and still had a hard time
I'm an aircraft mechanic for a living, unclear directions are way too common
I watched your video and followed your directions. Lowes had an adaptor that worked for me though, (for slip on hoses). Everything worked great. Thank you!
Which adapter is that?
thanks for showing the whole process! Still scared shi*less, but I think I'm going to do it!
Thanks a million. Your instructions were spot on. Keep up the good content.
Nice, I got same filter and saltwater chlorinator but an oval 16x10. My neighbors have 3 trees that have white flowers and they go straight into my pool, hope this skimmer helps keep it clean.
WOW! I didn't know you could add this type of skimmer to this type of pool. Thank you!!!!!!
You can, the only drawback is that you can't fill the pool up with as much water as you normally would.
Great job from a pool professional.
I did this to our pool, works great!!! Fantastic upgrade!!
How did it hold up a year later
Thank you - I added one just the way you laid it out.
Thanks for the information, I'm going to put one on my pool, I've been thinking about a way to make my pool water to flow in a circle also, Thanks Again.
This was very helpful. The instructions I received with this product didn't eve have diagrams to clarify! I really appreciate you making this
Did this to my pool last year along with a 3,000 gph sand filter pump. Best money ever spent on a pool.
i installed 2 skimmers one of these for skimming / circulation, another wide mouth jacuzzi style skimmer up near the top of the pool above the waterline for Rain overflow Drainage, this eliminated the very costly need to build a French drain around the pool. if we get a heavy extended rain it drains out into a 1" pipe off into a storm drain creek. I also installed a shower drain into the bottom of the pool and created a sump area in the middle, this is also connected to the drain line with a 1" directional flow control valve.
Why did you put a shower drain in the middle of the pool?
I ended up reversing the setup when I installed my skimmer. I talked to the local pool supply owner & she recommended putting the skimmer at the out flow opening. I did that & connected it to my sand filter. The old intakes now circulate my pool water 1000% better than the old system that was horrible! I upgraded my pump several months ago because of it really not working at all!
Sorry, but what do you mean? How do you reverse that?
The two holes in the side of the pool that used to be for the suction side are now like jets for the pump outlet and the old large hole that was the eerie. Into the pool is gone and the skimmer is cut in there. This is how I did mine. Works much better that before.
I actually tried to set mine up when I got it that way but it wouldn’t work so I got the box skimmer then it did.
Thank you thank you thank you for including the part description for the adapter!!!!!!
Best detailed video i have ever seen! Thank you!!
Great video! thanks much. I just installed this on my Costco Bestway 12'x22' pool and I wanted to let worried viewers know that I installed mine up higher on the double seam so that I could get maximum water depth and it worked perfect, zero leaks, zero issues, do not be afraid, just take your time.
Thanks again 👍🏻
Did you block off both intakes or just one? And how'd you block it off?
@@brianchrisman4331 I took the hose where the intake lines tee together off and put an extra cap I had on it and zip tied those hoses out of the way. I had planned to completely remove the hoses and put caps over both of the openings, but never got around to it. What I did worked good. After doing this skimmer upgrade I ended up finding a deal on a bigger hayward sand pump and switched to that as well, my pool is now crystal clear. Hope this helps.
@@randyhoward9651 So it sealed up on the seam? Did you cut the gasket in half or leave it together? I want higher water level on my costco pool, I just dont feel great cutting the seam.
Do you have any pictures? I have the same pool from Costco and want to install a skimmer. Thanks
@@MrJorgereal04 No pics, sorry. I mounted it as high as I could, I have since moved and just yesterday put up our new intex 12 x 24 and I purchased this exact same skimmer again and plan to mount it up as high as possible again.
Circulation is key, you are right there, but you also need to shock the pool to get rid of the haze.
I run my pump constantly all season..1 shock pack a week an a 3"pool tablet in skimmer.. stays clear even with the trees I have
@@davidprosper9057 So do you just put the tablet in the skimmer basket???
Not the top one the lower basket at the pump......you can put it in the upper skimmer basket....I use to..
thank you, great job. helped me out alot
what I did on mine was the original 2 intakes I went and bought some pvc that fit into those holes and just capped each end so I don't have a hose running from one intake to the other. This is the second intex pool i've added a hayward skimmer to. I actually mounted mine half way on the single ply part of liner and half on the double part to get a higher water level. been working good for 3 years now with no leaks.
I'm really glad you said that. I was going to try it on my pool to get the water level higher.
@@davidmoseley4659 when I take it down for winter I never remove the skimmer so that the holes don’t ever rip
@@neal5186 just bought this kind of pool. are you supposed to take it down every winter?
@@mikemymail7044 I drain mine all the way and leave it out all winter. I live on the Illinois Wisconsin border so we get pretty bad winters here and never had a problem. Must take the pump indoors
I debated on whether or not I should mount the skimmer higher, I ended up just putting the top row of screws right on the seam. I should have gone with my gut!
Thank you! the instructions do not tell you to cut the butterfly gasket in half, I couldn’t understand why they didn’t give you 2 gaskets. I appreciate your video!
You're not supposed to cut it
Great video tutorial!
same setup here works great
THANK YOU. Everyone else pumps the top foot of water out the pool first and I was thinking that probably wasn't necessary. I searched until I could find an example of someone doing it this way just to ease my insecurities that something awful may happen the second I puncture the liner.
Yeah, well, he didn't do it right. He split the gasket, you're not supposed to do that.
There's a reason why people drain the first foot of water when installing these, because that's the proper to do it.
@@Superman-xr1oh Cutting the gasket is fine. I did it this way and my last two pool seasons went perfectly fine. It depends on your skill level and what you're comfortable doing.
Highly recommend adding one of these to your pool. I won't have a pool without one. And yes it's nerve-wracking putting holes in your pool. Especially cutting the center hole out of the skimmer.
Man, I walked around this project a few times, going over the steps but I was still just nervous as hell. One goof and it might be hard to come back from!
no surprise with the increased flow. Pumps are good at pushing water but not sucking. So keep the feed to the pump as big as possible, skimmer, larger hose etc will all make it better
Thank You, I want to install this
I the Hayward skimmer is a definite improvement, get the Intex sand filter and pump you will love that even better!!!
I got a Hayward sand filter with cilca sand works great...I run my pump constantly for whole season just shock it once a week an throw a 3 inch tablet in skimmer...always clear even with the trees around
I did the same thing today. Thank you for the info my friend
Great video somewhat informative. My only issues is that you don’t give part numbers or sizes of the modifications you performed. That would help us a lot
The skimmer has standard 2" pipe threads, found in any US hardware store, the PVC ball valve is also a standard plumbing part, the 2" to 1.25" adapter part can be found on Ebay or Amazon, usually under Intex to 2" adapter or similar verbiage
Can you supply the links for the parts. Thank you
Why do you cut the gasket in half? It hast to be installed between the foil, inside and outside in ONE piece.
I've seen a few people do this and some other kits are sold with 2 gaskets , however a single gasket seems like a better design I don't get why one would cut it.🤯
This is awesome thanks
Love all your videos !! I put this on my pool last year loved it!! Now have a bigger pool but it is so hard to get this skimmer on this time- cannot get these flat screws to poke through the liner any ideas - and what size is the ball valve ? Thank you oh I saw your answer to the valve in another comment - also of the birds in the background I’m originally from New Bedford 😀
I poked the holes through with a pick first I believe
Nice job you can change the jet to a smaller one you just unscrew the white ring around the front we’re you adjust it they make a smaller one that has a smaller hole so that it can move your water around even faster
Thanks for sharing this video! It was incredibly helpful installing our own Hayward skimmer. I have a specific question for you: what kind of valve did you put below the Hayward skimmer at around the 16:00 mark? I’d like to order it for ours.
A regular old PVC ball valve from the plumbing section of home depot. I can't remember if it's 1.5 or 2" but if you take your skimmer to just about any hardware store, they should be able to help you figure out how to plumb a ball valve in
I had the small mouth and my chlorine float thing always got stuck or sucked into it so I went with the wide mouth to stop it from happening or at least stop it from clogging it up.
Just wondered why you use the outake valves instead of the intake for the vacuum?
Where did you get the salt chlorinator and how does it work? I have the exact same pool and I am curious now since you kept the original pump that came with the pool. I might mimic your setup if you don't mind.
Does your pump aerate a bit while the vacuum adapter is on? I'm having that issue with mine so I stopped using it till I figure out the issue.
Does the 1.5 ball vavle screw directly to the bottom of the skimmer or is there some adapter or gasket or plumbing tape? Also how did you connect under the ball vavle to the pool hose, any adapter, gasket or tape?
I have another video explaining how. It's a 1 1/2" to 40 mm adapter, the grey part, and teflon plumbing tape
Do u have a video for setting up the inlet eyeball that comes with it
Hi, thanks for the video. Do you mind sharing the size of the ball valve? Thank you!
Perfect !!
thank you and can you please give us a list of parts you used for this awesome project. in particular the part numbers for that cap off of the old two tiny inlets and the part number for the ball valve. Thank you
Reading is fundamental...but a rarity
What do I need to hook up the ball shut off vavle? Do you have a video on that?
Looks like u got 2 pumps or ones converter ? So whats the link to that direction im surprised they dont come with that
After two years, any leaks from splitting the butterfly gasket?
Does this take care of all the little annoying black spec bugs that can’t seem to stay out of my pool? I just bought a wide mouth (was the only one available and was cheaper on offer up) it should be delivered tomorrow. I cannot wait to see how this improves my mental health
Do you have the part number for the adapter? I have the Bestway 9x18x48.
My hose are 1-1/4.
What connections do I need?
At 3:50 that grey threaded adapter/reducers.....I need some of these...what is the thread size of each side?
What did you do with the other 2 intakes though? Could them 2 intakes and the skimmer hose somehow connect before running to the pump so that all 3 intakes are being used now? I like the idea of using the original intakes still to help suck up particles floating beneath the water.
Could use them, but it would diminish the flow into the skimmer, which captures the most litter
1 year later, how is the skimmer and the pool seal holding? I would like to do this too for my intex pool. Just before I cut checking if the pool vinyl tears over time? or the seal around the hayward gasket start to seep? Thank you for posting
Mine never leaked once I got the screws tightened down enough. The vinyl is fiberglass reinforced, tearing is very unlikely
Great video, are you using two pumps ?
The second One is a salt cell chlorine generator.
Very nice and informative vid. Good views. Can you tell me if this skimmer dropped your max water level? Can us the water level set by the max hight of the skimmer box?
I lost maybe an inch or two, if I was to do it again, I would mount the skimmer so the top screws would be through the doubled section at the top, to lose less depth.
It really doesn't matter though since my kids favorite thing is to get a whirlpool going in the pool by running in circles. This slops out enough water that I'm never overflowing the skimmer unless it rains a lot
I need to do this I’m so tried of getting leaves out of pool with leaf net or vacuuming all the time!!!
It does an amazing job of sucking up the floating debris
Whats the name of that grey adapter like a coupling under the skimmer at first of the video?
I found it is a comment below ,👍
Where did you purchase the grey adapter and what is the name of it? Thank you for this video
Amazon is one source GAME 4560 40mm to 1 1/2 Inch Conversion Kit (For Intex & Bestway Pools)
Hi
Thank you for a great video.
Many professionals advise against doing this, so I am inquisitive about the durability.
Can you give an update on how it is holding up after sitting there for two years?
Can the liner withstand heavy activity and many waves?
Haven't put it back up yet this year due to spring being cold and rainy, still.
I see no reason to believe the pool will have any issues with the skimmer going back on it this year (if we ever get summer weather). If anything, I expect one of the windows to fail as they're crazed and yellowed from sun exposure.
My kids are rough on the pool, jumping off the deck, and getting it going around so fast you can't swim against it.
Get a sand filter. After backwash, add about half a pound od DE ,, diatomaceous earth.. For filtering performance
For best results you need to re-circulate all the water of the pool 4 times/day in active season. So pool 10000L , you need 2500l/h pump if you want it to work 4 hours, and so. So these pump are bare minimum or really not adequate for these pools and larger pumps do much better job.
Do you take your pool down in the wintertime? If so, do you remove the skimmer from the pool wall for storage?
Yes and yes. I remove it all, and then thread the screws back into the skimmer to keep the trim ring and gaskets together and not lose any hardware
Do you have the link at all for turn off switch that sits just under the skimmer? Thanks
It's common PVC plumbing, take your skimmer housing to the hardware store and find the PVC pipe parts that will add this. The skimmer is also made of PVC.
I made another video explaining this
What adapters did you buy for the bottom of the skimmer?
I’d like to know too. Nothing about size was mentioned. Just intex adapters?
Can I please ask you, did your skimmer box have the clear plastic cup that goes in the bottom of the outside part before the basket goes in? My best ways one does but when it is in there is no suction, it’s like the cup is stopping the water from being sucked in. Do you know if it is needed?
Mine does not, it definitely seems like that would block the flow
Great video. Easy to follow... may install one.. i just hate skimmer set up.. how you lose 5.. maybe 6 inches of water depth.. any ideas
I find I lost about 2 inches at the most. One commenter said they set the top of the skimmer gasket into the double section where the top fold is attached.
My kids love to get the water going in a whirlpool, and that splashes out enough water that I'm not too worried about mounting the skimmer higher.
Why are the two lines still hooked up after you installed the skimmer? They appear to be worthless at this point. Do they have a purpose?
My guess is he just needs to plug the holes. Currently having them hooked up he is keeping the water in the pool lol.
What did you do with the 2 original ports did you just blank them off and now only using the skimmer. ?
Yes, I plan on using a small pump and a solar heater with them, but haven't built it yet
@@rowerwet Definitely let us know when you get around to doing this because I would also be interested in something similar. Live in AZ so can definitely extend the pool time for many months. Also curious if you got info on what you are planning (what kind of pump or solar heater). Great videos by the way!
Whats the part number on that skimmer??
I'm having the hardest time finding the grey adapter that you found off of Amazon . Can you help please
Amazon is one source GAME 4560 40mm to 1 1/2 Inch Conversion Kit (For Intex & Bestway Pools)
@@rowerwet GAME 4550 Filter Hose Conversion Kit (for Intex & Bestway Pools)
great video! super helpful! thanks :)
Great video 👍🏼👍🏼
I got the same exact pool & I’m planing to do the the same set up you just did
Do you have a part number for the skimmer ???
I want to make sure I got the same one since we got the same pool
Thanks
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Thank you
what did you do with your b holes?
I hope someone can give me an answer here. If you have a 48" deep above ground pool like this, and you install the skimmer, DO YOU LOSE some depth of water with having a skimmer? You already don't have much depth with a 48" pool as it is so i am trying to figure out if adding a skimmer is worth it with these pools. Thank you
2-4 inches, I have kids who splash a lot out anyway.
how did you install the eyeball? We just got a hayward and the inlet eyeball assembly is humongous. If we use it, we'd have to cut a larger hole. so, how did you add that eyeball?
The return port cover unscrews, I used a hole saw to remove the middle, and installed the eyeball in the hole.
If you have smaller ports in the pool, they give you gaskets in the assembly to cut a larger hole in the pool and seal it. You could also run PVC pipe through the smaller port and put the eyeball on the PVC, it won't flow as much water then though.
@@rowerwet I have the same pool and have everything installed except the eyeball. I came back here to see how it was installed as I figured the whole return assembly would need to be removed and the new Haywood one installed. I would like to use your method, but I am wondering what holds the eyeball in place? There is nothing for it to screw on to, so how does it stay in? Am I missing something?
I just bought a bestway above ground pool. Where I need to place my filter pump is about 12 feet from the pool. Do you know where I can get those plastic tubes but where they're longer than normal? or how I can extend them to the length I need them to be?
Hardware store that sells pool and spa hose, or do rigid PVC pipe
13:15 that truck take off in the background whistling diesel haha 🤣🤣
How on earth did you attach the eyeball thingy to the existing outlet?? did you hole saw it & then glue that in place?? I been trying to figure this out for awhile, I have the same. set up as you?? Thanks for any help
What did you end up doing?
So are the 2 B hoses just there and no longer serving any purpose? If so, could you just glue the black plugs in them so you don’t have to worry about the hoses?
Yes, just capped off. I have plans to add a solar pool heater using these ports at some point
What did you use to close the old two lines , I saw they're together
For a while I just used a cap I had to block off the old union they originally flowed into before going to the pump. I found some plastic plugs to block the old nipples off later on.
Hi! Can I ask about the filters? We have the stock one you have, but not the other. Do you have to have 2 filters to do this? Thanks!
It's a salt water chlorinator
Rowerwet, DO you drain your pool and winterize ? DO you have any recomendations or links to follow ?
I drain it and put it away for the winter
Quick ? Did you use your other intake or did you close it off.
Closed off
a good way to do it is to get some pvc that will fit in those holes. insert it and cap both ends using the pvc glue on outside of the pvc pipe too to seal those holes for good. You'll never need them again anyways
You have 2 pumps?
My ? Is, how is it holding up this swimming season. Do you have any leaks or rips. I love the idea just scared of it not working and ruining my pool.
Haven't set up the pool for this year yet. It's still not pool season up here