How did the United Methodists betray the African Church?
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- The latest United Methodist General Conference has stirred controversy with how they betrayed the African Church. Learn more about this important event and its impact on the United Methodist Church and the African church community. #UMC #unitedmethodistchurch #africanchurch #generalconference2024
They’ve done worse than betray the African church, they’ve betray the GOD of the universe and unless they repent will suffer terribly soon!!!!!!!! GOD will NOT forget!!!!!!!!
Absolutely!
I am not a Methodist. Just a born again Christian from Canada. But...AMEN BROTHER ! You speak the truth boldly. We need much more of that in the modern day church. We are undoubtedly living in the time of the Laodicean church of Revelation. You are 100% correct. The churches and denominations overwhelmingly serve to please and bend to "the culture". Instead of obeying and surrendering to the will of Christ. Its like the vast majority of modern day churches are cancerous and what you are describing is just one of the "tumours" that is evidence of this sickness. I have heard before that the Christians in Africa are far more faithful to the word of God than we are in the west. We need to pray for them that God will strengthen them and use the African brothers and sisters for His glory. Thank you Pastor John. God bless you brother. Stay strong in the Lord. We will pray for you. (1 Peter 5:8-11) "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: {9} Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. {10} But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. {11} To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."
Thanks for your prayers! We serve the King of kings and Christ is going to win over these satanic churches.
Oh, of course they didn't want the African church there. And yet they talk about the evils of colonialism. They are hypocrites.
Amen. Keep praying that God will change their hearts and bring them to the faith.
Yes they are. They told us, during our disaffiliation "struggle sessions" they would follow the book of discipline as written, would not allow gay marriage and clergy, and that they were disciplining those churches that ignored the restrictions on gay marriage and clergy.
All of it lies, lies and more lies.
Let them wrap themselves in the rainbow flag. They will fail in the long run.
The Africans were spared.
Keep praying for the real Christians in Africa.
Totally agree; the U.S. UMC has put the final nail in their coffin. They have had more than ample time to see the error of their ways and to turn away from the world and back to God.
Always remember - we serve a savior who can open the grave and bring the dead back to life. Keep praying!
The UMC is all but finished. Makes me sad as that was the church I was raised in at an early age.
God will win in the end. I look forward to the Lord raising something up more true Christians as a result of this. Keep praying.
I think not having the African delegation present was by design. They know better! If they were present I'm sure there would be conflict like in your face. How shameful!
Who is truely lying here? You or The Africans participants?
Keep praying for those who are still being deceived.
Christ is king!
My late father-in-law was a devout UM minister. God took him home yests ago. I am so glad that he did not live long enough to have to see this mess. God bless.
Thanks! It's great to hear about the faithful ministers of the past. Keep praying!
Amen! As a former UM pastor I find myself in full agreement with you. It's sad to see how far and how fast the UMC has fallen.
It is absolutely disgusting that my former denomination did this. They will be forced to stand before God one day and explain why they needed their progressive agenda and turn from a denomination to an abomination.
Thanks. It's discouraging but God is a god of miracles and can even raise the dead. Keep praying and keep the faith.
Here’s how I would describe what happened…
The speaker said “Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations. I will be exalted in the earth.”
An Ethiopian asked: “Is he talking about himself, or somebody else?”
Keep praying that God would open their eyes. God is able.
It appears that they are inventing a new religion.
Yes. They are worshipping Satan! These American pastors are leading their congregations to hell!
It's the same Satanic one started in the garden. Keep praying for the lost.
They should have just shown up at the southern border. No questions asked. Plus free airfare or bus tickets.
thank you Pastor John, from United to Queer. Like COE England, it is finished. Stay strong
Thanks. Keep praying!
Amen
To the African church be glad you are not like the Methodist stay the course and stay in God’s word
Keep praying! Maybe one day they will turn Methodism back to the Bible.
Africa is fertile ground for the GMC
Amen. I'm praying for them.
@animosity4u85 "Africa is fertile ground for the GMC"
I sure hope they do better than that!
The UMC was founded by an unsaved man, and has NEVER submitted to the authority of Scripture.
Keep praying for the lost. God can do great things.
Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy, Lord have mercy, Amen
"“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. " (Matt 6:5-6)
So glad we do have a Lord who is merciful. Keep praying for the lost.
Thank you Pastor John for your clear and concise updates on the current situation regarding the UMC and the GMC. We left the "fray" along time ago, but are now wanting to see the currrent situaition after the much delayed General Conference of the UMC 2024. Could you please explain why Rob Renfroe and Tom Lambrecht are still part of the UMC? Didn't they see the writing on the wall? Now, after the UMC General Conference 2024 they are wondering what to do next? We don't understand this.
You're welcome. I did some checking on Rob and Tom and at least from the comments from Tom Lambrecht, they remained, temporarily, to able to help more churches that are still struggling to leave. I expect, (I don't know for sure), that they will stay for a time until it becomes clear they can't help any more churches leave. Keep praying for the lost and deceived in these churches and pray that the leadership would repent from their wicked ways.
@@biblewalkwithjohn My understanding is that it is too late for any churches to leave the UMC after 2023. The people can leave the church, but the building is the UMC's. I don't see the leadership of the UMC repenting. They have gone too far. Scripture says to flee from evil. Proverbs 4:27.
The UMC in America May as well write “Ichabod” across this decision.
Absolutely!
Those that embrace their sin instead of repent from it will not value God, grace or those that do value God & grace.
Amen. They must repent. Keep praying.
Way past time to just #walkaway.
Agree and amen. Pray for those still deceived.
The UMC has been ignoring scripture since their founding in 1968, when they started ordaining women clergy, so I'm not sure I see a huge difference between the new heresies and the old heresies. I do wish the pastor who posted this the best, though. It's hard to see what you believed in devolve further into depravity and insanity, and I know his suffering is real and his indignation is justified. Try to remember that human nature is totally depraved. We don't need help, we need salvation.
Amen. Please keep these lost souls in your prayers. Pray that God grant them repentance and salvation before they stand before the judgment seat of God. God bless you.
I did not leave the UMC. The UMC left me.
I still will follow the bible and God. The UMC has chosen not to.
Amen. Keep following the Bible and you won't go wrong.
The United Methodist Church has betrayed the God of Creation and no one else.
Amen. The UMC is now an apostate denomination, and their sin will do them in. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
The arrogance of the Americans!
And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”
After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. John 6:65-66.
"Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.” Revelation 22:11.
If these former Methodists now apostates aka goats persist in their unscriptural ways, then let them simply go their way. That is better than they stick around and metastasize the falling away that is already infecting Christ's church.
As for this old Methodist minister in the Wesleyan tradition, he is my kind of preacher. May the love of Jesus surround him and fill him with the peace of God during these trying times.
Thanks so much. I know some in the flock are deceived or asleep but the leadership is definitely wolves, glorifying in death. Please keep praying that God would grant repentance to them and keep praying for me. Again, thank you.
The church decided to do evil.
You have to get a visa unless you are ILLEGAL!
They didn't send the letters of invitation soon enough for them to get a visa. Keep praying that God will open peoples eyes.
Didn't the church in Germany (Catholic) made a similar comment. It is not for the brothers in Africa to tell us too much what to do?
I'm not aware of what happened in Germany. I just know that the United Methodist in Africa wanted nothing to do with relaxing standards on sexuality and were largely responsible for upholding the doctrine in 2019. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
Leave
General conference what they Mormon now LOL
My pronouns are "Your Majesty" and "Your Holiness" The pronoun people don't like it. I like seeing them get censured when the refuse to use them under their own rules.
The UM is completely woke. Rainbow flags and unicorns. I’m glad I’m in a normal church.
I was raised in the Methodist Episcopal Church which became the United Methodist Church. In 1977 I joined the Roman Catholic Church. I am still Catholic and very blessed to be there. When Pope Benedict XVI created the Personal Ordinariates, in which Anglicans(Episcopal) and Methodists (who branched off the Anglican Church) could become Catholics and maintain their English traditions of worship, I joined the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter. Our English church patrimony has been preserved in our Liturgy and we are united with the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Let’s fulfill Christ’s prayer, “That they all may be one…” There is a place for Protestants who are offended by mainline denominations’ apostasy to turn.
You think it's an improvement to put yourself under the authority of someone who does not believe the gospel? In a system which blasphemes the Lord Jesus Christ every day, in every church?
I may not agree with you, but I appreciate your prayers. Christ is king!
@@biblewalkwithjohn You don't need to worry about agreeing with me. You need to worry about agreeing with God. You can't do that by ignoring His Word.
Go read the book of Hebrews, and compare it with the doctrine of the Mass. Both cannot be true.
Is the pope Catholic? No. Next question……
I'm thinking about doing a video on that very subject. Ha-ha. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
If they pissed God off . Why doesent he mateireaize ,
and do something? Oh ya he does not exist.
Oh well don't feel to bad the rest of the God's
on the rest of the world do not either.
If he were to judge at this moment, you, along with many others would be in hell. Praying for you that you repent and believe the gospel before you stand before God in judgment. The offer of salvation is open for all.
@@biblewalkwithjohn It is all made up. Horus, Kryshna
Budda, Zeus, Mithra and Jesus
I just cannot follow a God of blackmail. And it is the very definiton of blackmail. Do what I say or I will hurt you. But it is only beacause I love you. That is a scociopath.
@@darrenwiggins9957 All the atheistic arguments really come down to wanting to be their own God.
@@BobbyIronsights No it come down to science and logic.
Back up references. The God Delusion . Or any You tube post by
Richard Dakins, Stephen Hawking , Anthony Hitchens. None of this
you will look into. You just make a long brush stroke answer.
That makes no sence ALL athistic? What have yohu talked to all of us?
United Methodist Church pronouns. Was - were. Come back to the 2000 year old one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
The RCC was founded by Constantine, not Christ.
@@kevinmorgan8534 You have the right to think that. From Wikipedia:The Methodist revival began in England with a group of men, including John Wesley (1703-1791) and his younger brother Charles (1707-1788), as a movement within the Church of England in the 18th century. I'm sorry you are so poorly informed about history. Constantine fostered the growth of the church, it predated Constantine by over 300 years. I'm sure we will not agree so I wish you peace.
Was and were - I like it. Keep praying for the lost.
@@kevinmorgan8534The catholic church was there before Constantine!! We have the testimony of figures like Clement of Rome who is mentioned in philippians 4:3, epistle of Barnabas who's mentioned in Acts. We also have the writings of st Ignatius and Iranaeus and Polycarp all who lived 200 hundred years before Constantine!! Go back and study.
@@biblewalkwithjohn I wish I could take credit for that but I can't. I saw it somewhere but I couldn't remember where so I couldn't reference it. I thought it was quite clever. I'm going to try to search it out.
Disagree with your evaluations completely.
That's fair. I sometimes disagree with myself. Whatever you think of me, please pray that God would do a great work and bring repentance and salvation to the lost.
They 're totally, eternally, spiritually DEAD. Blind leading blind