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PCUSA's Future Looks Bleak (Why It's Dying)
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- The PCUSA is meeting in Salt Lake City. One agenda item is about requiring those seeking to be ministers to say they will perform gay weddings. The PCUSA has lost 2/3rds of the membership. Are they trying to lose the other 1/3? How did the Presbyterian Church USA arrive at this state? And should you remain a member.
I remember the great schism, I left PCUSA then, and I remember when they said Gay marriage wouldn't be required, just allowed for certain churches. The pastor at the time, also left the church, said the exact same thing. That which is tolerated will become accepted and then, eventually, become required.
Amen. Keep praying for the lost and deceived in this group.
So true sir. You could have taken almost everything that you said and changed it from pausa to any of the other collapsing mainline denominations. Bless you and your words of wisdom.
Thank you. I've done some videos on the UMC as well. The mainline denominations have generally abandoned what the Scriptures teach. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
I feel like the writing was on the wall a log time ago about this, and also - United Methodists that are hanging on while disagreeing with their General Conference decisions shouldn't trust that the "conscience clause" is going to hold there either, despite what bishops and the like are telling local churches.
Presbyterians do have other options as far as denominational affiliation - the PCA for the most conservative (does not ordain women) and EPC and ECO otherwise.
Just to add, the other Presbyterian denominations are as far as I know, strong on Biblical fundamentals.
You're right. The drift started many years ago. I covered the UMC in other videos. I believe that any faithful Christians left in the PCUSA (if there are any) should be heading for the doors! Keep praying for the lost and deceived in this church.
The biggest mistake the chuch made was women's ordination. Are their any chuches with women in authority that haven't slipped into apostasy?
women are more likely to be pro homosexuality, pro abortion, etc.
As far as I know, any church that started ordaining women any sooner than about 1920 are racing into apostasy. Some, like the Assemblies of God, started with women ministers - not changing as the world demanded and they have been decent, as least for now. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
I left years ago. It's so sad....
So true. Hope you found a good church. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
I'm Catholic. But I listened to this and thought, wow! This man really said it well. The onslaught of LGBT#&@etc is not going to slow down anywhere. Because those activists have nothing better to base their lives on.
Thank you. This onslaught is going on in every Christian denomination. But God is greater than the activist. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
So the PCUSA will require all new pastors to NOT be Christians!
I'm sure they will claim Christianity - but - as Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
What he just said sounds like the PCUSA that I am seeing more and more. He explained it wonderful.
Thank you. It's sad that the "church" is abandoning God. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
A little yeast leavens the whole dough; we need to cling only to God through Jesus, the Holy Spirit and Scripture - lest we are destroyed (Hosea ch 3 v6 & 7).
Absolutely, that leaven is destroying the church. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
Thanks for the information. I understand that the PCUSA may be teaching justification but have abandoned the human, the believers role of sanctification.
You're welcome. Please keep praying for the lost and deceived in this church.
Sorry. There may be a few individuals and churches that leave if this overture passes, but most churches and individual members are either wildly liberal or will just go along to get along.
You are right. I just finished attending the PCUSA general assembly (as a observer). This passed easily. What took up the most time in the assembly was the debate about ending fossil fuel usage (as all the delegates met in an air-conditioned building after having flow there. So sad. Keep praying for the lost and deceived in this church and around the world.
I'm currently reading thru the Bible with the Catholic podcast - Bible in a Year with Father Mike. Father Mike always offers comments at the end of the reading that offer insight into cultural and historical considerations. Having a better understanding of scripture as a whole has done wonders for framing my thoughts and improving my spiritual life. I think you are right when you mention many Christians have no idea of what the Holy Book really says.
How about reading the bible for yourself? Before you start, pray ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth? The promise of the Scripture in John 16:13 is the Holy Spirit leading you into all truth. As for the Catholic podcast do you know what Catholic Church believes? You might want to check that out.
@@julegate Because if it is read to me I can get it done while driving the 45 minutes to church or while I am doing paperwork at my job. And I am an auditory learner. Why are you so judgy if someone does better with something like an audiobook? And yes, I know what the Catholic Church teaches. Perhaps you should read the church father's writings and discover some early church history.
@@jnkelley42 I am not being judgy. I am asking you to ask the Holy Spirit to be your teacher. As for the Church Fathers I do know what they teach. They are the ones who brought in the false doctrine along with advocating eliminating those who did not agree with them. Please tell me. Can you recall a place in Scripture where Jesus instructed His followers to kill someone who did not agree with them? If you think a Priest who believes Mary is a co- redemptrixi and the Pope is god on earth is a better teacher of scripture than the Holy Spirit please continue on. I ask you to forgive me and I apologize.
Bible in a Year with Father Mike??? Isn't that the church that forbid the reading of the bible? Isn't that the Satanic cult that burned bibles and all who read it? The church of Antichrist has deceived the whole world once again. No doubt it has deceived the PCUSA. What a horror!
You will definitely receive a blessing as you listen to God's Holy Word. I've used the Bible.org app to do the same. As the Scriptures say, my word shall not return to me void but shall accomplish what I have intended. Keep listening to God's word and pray for the lost and deceived.
Sounds just like the United Methodists.
Absolutely! I did some videos on that last month. As these churches embrace the world and reject the scriptures, they will perish. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
A little leaven leavens the whole lump.
Once you start justifying sin - it's all downhill from there. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
Of course it’s dying, it’s apostate.
So true and so sad. Keep praying for the lost and deceived in this denomination and others.
I guess the PSUA forgot that God is King and He has a kingdom and there are rules and there is no voting on the rules. Don't forget Revelations 17:5 says Mother of Harlots so I guess the PCUSA has become one of the daughters.
They would probably complain about using the "gendered" language of king!!! You are right. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
@@biblewalkwithjohn I wonder how far that complaint would go? Absolutely praying for the lost and deceived. May I also say I pray God keeps me in the true faith and to not be deceived. God bless you. By the way, the Lutheran Church is in the same situation.
After years of serving as an elder and adult Bible class teacher, I left PCUSA four years ago. The rise of LGBTQ-affirming beliefs within the denomination helped me see clearly the many practices of the PCUSA church that are, in fact, inconsistent with the Word of God. Serving on a committee to hire a music director, I was forced to self examine: How could I rightfully stand against hiring a same-sex married music director when I would not object to the many other manmade traditions being practiced and sins going on in the church that are inconsistent with the Word of God? They are there. If you know scripture and have an honest heart, you will see it. I encourage all readers to seek fellowship with a church whose members call themselves Christians (not Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, etc), and who faithfully strive to be the Christian church you read about in the New Testament. Let there be no divisions among us. (I Cor 1:10). Blessings.
Thank you. Yes, there are so many unbiblical practices that need to be removed from the church! Keep praying for the lost and deceived in all the church.
Do not cry over the collapse of apostate denominations. This is a blessing. The faster they collapse, the better. The Lord said, "I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matt 16:18). The Holy Spirit convicts of sin and righteousness and judgment (John 16:18). The Spirit commands, "Come out of her, my people so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues" (Rev 18:4). The sheep hear the shepherd's voice; they know their shepherd, and they follow their shepherd (John 10:27). The sheep will not follow a stranger's voice; they will run from him (John 10:5).
Marriage is between a man and a woman. Anything else is a civil union. A same gender union can be performed by a justice of the peace.
Absolutely. God sets the standards - not people. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.
The PCUSA is consequently correct, in their theological error.
If the novel Christian theological opinion of double predestination is true, then it follows that individuals have no sufficient freewill, outside of God's efficient determinism, to repent or amend how they are fashioned.
Hence, there is no real freedom to act in any contingent image and likeness, of his or her own efficient Creator, for good or for evil. Thus, God predestined some souls to good, and some souls to evil, contrary to their individual will and His "eternal goodness."
So why bother repenting, or having any vital change in spirit (nefesh), if "God made me this way," that is, if you hold fast to double predestination? (Ezekiel 36:26, 2 Peter 3:9)
As ugly as it may appear from the outside, these are the theological implications and consequences for departing from the one, holy, universal, and ecclesiastical church that Jesus Christ established. (Mat 16:18, 2 Thes 2:15)
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You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
Being Christian helps you overcome being LGBT, not to celebrate it.
Nope!
@@timothykeith1367 wrong
If we don't repent of our sin - and that means turning away from it, we cannot enter the kingdom of God. Since the Bible says that this is sin, we have no other option but to repent. Praying for you.
@@biblewalkwithjohn sounds like you've been brought back under the law. Why don't you have a change of mind? Trying not to sin because you love God is what the religious people were doing before Jesus came.