Basically what happened was that the guy in the middle of the desk asked a producer off-air to give the guy who walked off an opportunity to talk first. The guy who walked off saw this as a patronizing act and took offence. That's why in the beginning they're giving him a chance to speak but he doesn't. He feels like he's being undermined and (I'm assuming) his inferiority complex and/or built up frustration led to this all coming out. Looking at the footage, you can tell the guy who walked off doesn't have much analysis to give and requests the other two guy's opinions. When the guy on the right (under the impression they're supposed to give the guy who walked off a chance to speak) didn't want to give his analysis and rather requested the guy who walked off to give his opinion, you can see he looks nervous since he has nothing to say and then requests of the guy in the middle of the desk to talk. Then at around 0:33 you can see what I'm assuming to be the producer telling him that he can go ahead and the guy who walked off doesn't have to speak. After giving a great breakdown of the game, the guy who walked off feels inferior and his outbreak happens. Pretty childish if you ask me.
Was because he didn't arrive until half time and didn't watch the game. He felt entitled by skin colour to get thr pay cheque without putting in the work. And when they joked with.him to speak he lost his marbles
@@MetYsJa sounds like alot of people making assumptions without the facts...with your assumption particularly hinting at something troubling within your old world view. Rather acknowledge that you don't know what happened behind the scenes besides commenting on his ability as an analyst. The guy who walked off has a masters degree so I don't think there he ever felt entitled in fact, if you dig a bit into his life you will see that he had to fight for everything.
Well I know the 'behind the scenes' situation. Naas and Nick always sat through the games in studio, discussed it as it happened, and put together clips they wanted to comment on specifically. Ashwin didn't. He walked around, talked to people and ate lunch during games. As a result his analysis was vague and general at best. Naas was always fully involved in the action. Nick was a more quiet person, but they both did their work. Ashwin looked like a fool because he didn't, and that obviously made him feel inferior. He was too arrogant to see that it was him and not his skin colour that was the problem. Listen to the two guys and you will see it clearly.
I tell you what happened here, it is clear that when Ashwin had the floor to do the post game wrap up, he was like a high school student who didn't prepare well enough for a speech or presentation in front of the class, then diverted the attention to his "fellow classmates" to buy up time, waiting for the school bell to ring. And then he threw a tantrum because he got exposed for not doing his homework, he should have gone straight to the headmasters office for 6 of the best.
Rocket Man it's sad how you think someone's ability to speak English is a measure of their intelligence. Odds are I speak and write better English than you but you don't see me trying to belittle you over it
no one mentioned his English or ability of vernacular at all, he is simply stating that he feels Ash was not prepared to give his analysis. Work with what was said in the statement, don't put words in ones mouth , no one is belittling here.
One can clearly see what happened. Ashwin Willmse was angered by the way Naas responded when he asked him to comment about the game.'I have used all the time before the game.All your time' He felt that he was undermining him by refusing to comment'.Unless Botha/ Mallet had been saying other negative things before this incident,this is not a big issue.If Willmse says they have been undermining him before this incident one can understand.At the moment no clear evidence of racism.
@NongomaTV thanks! i appreciate your insightful response; I saw that upthread @CharlesJorgensen noted that it would be great if they could resolve this issue; I strongly support that as we need examples of resolution that do not involve 'making either party ultimately bad'
In my honest opinion, Ashwin did not have to jump in at the beginning to turn the focus towards himself just to redirect it back to Naas. It was clear that Ashwin Willemse was unprepared, thus the redirection to Naas to help himself out of a tight spot. Both Naas and Nick was annoyed by this and tried to get Ashwin Willemse to man up to his own mistakes. I have lost all my respect for Ashwin Willemse as a human being for turning this into a racist issue. I have massive respect for Nick as I always find his comments to be spot on and straight to the point. I love watching Breyton Paulse manning the big screen as he always have this possitive, energetic attitude and the way he addresses the media with accurate responses and Nothing on this recording can ever be labeled as racist. Anyone who sees it in that light is foolish. I'm sure if Jean or Victor or Butch or Bobby or who ever else were in Ashwin's shoes with the same kind of attitude and laid back mentality, they would have received the same response from the hard working individuals in the team. Put yourself in Nick's shoes and think of your working environment and working on an important project with other team members. How will you react if the quality, accuracy and timing of the projects are constantly being hampered by the same individual who seems to be riding on the success of others and not pulling his weight and putting in the effort that is expected of him. At some point, someone is going to voice their frustrations, and I fail to see how that can be seen as being racist.
Guys you miss the plot !! Willemse came in late, and did not watch the game. That's why he asked Naas & Nick for their comment, because he COULD not comment, as he didn't see the game. So then Naas joked with him, & told him that they had had their fair share of commentary during the game, and that he can also now contribute by wrapping up the game, which of course he couldn't do, sort of putting him in a tight spot for not attending & watching the game with them. Eventually Naas & Nick wrapped up the game, and just after this, the whole debacle happened, because he probably got frightened into another blood group, thinking that they have blown his cover, and that's why he pulled out the race card, as this is what some of these people do when they cannot win the argument. Strangely, you won't hear him apologising on TV for what he's done. Also, I doubt whether we'll ever hear the slightest of an apology from the min of sport, as well as Gwede, who were very quick to judge Naas & Nick. Sorry to inform you Ashwin, but you've lost many, many people's respect since this incident. From now on people will always think you're a bullshitter!!
I came to watch this video so I could join the crowd in accusing these guys of racism, as everyone seems to be. There's nothing racist at all that was said by those 2 elderly guys, they were giving analysis on the game, that Ashwin guy just came out of nowhere with that "I wont be patronised...." nonsense. No guys, we are wrong. That Ashwin needs to man up and apologise for what he, wrongfully, tried to accuse those guys of. Okanye atleast explain himself, on how he thought they were patronising and demeaning him.
There's been a bit written about it on Sprts24. It seems more like a tiff between 2 guys who just didn't get along, to be honest. www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/revealed-what-caused-former-bok-to-walk-off-set-20180520
Nothing happened. When any person of colour plays the race card I call it bullshit. Any comments about the past or whatever doesn't effect me, cos I wasn't there and I didn't do anything. I know only mostly one-way racism today. Black on White, maybe in the past it was the other way around. How far back in the past do we go. Don't forget the British killed of a large population of the Afrikaaners in concentration camps in 1900's. I don't here anything about that.. So fck the racist card, whomever uses it is the racist, easiest way to confirm
Ashwin, I understand, they were patronising you. Every workplace has that, it normally from the older "know it all" folks...but to claim it's racism? nah bro.
OMG Ashwin could not handle the fact that Nick and Naas opinions were more valued than his but it was the presenter that negotiated the discussion not Nick and Naas .So obviously AW just being childish and immature .He asked Naas and Nick their opinions and let the presenter move the discussion to them .What no racism here just an immature and unprofessional AW using these tactics to make him seem like a hero when infact it was just a spat and he lost the discussion like a regular male losing tantrum.
Anyone these days can use the word racist to cover their own track of privilege. BEE is there to equalise the past ills, I Implementation has been found wanting but one thing is clear, I doing nothing is not an option, so those who see it as a racist policy, I ask why were you silent on the previous racist policy and what do you suggest we do differently. I insults are not an answer, Just a refuge for the weak
I believe this is the later half of the conversation. I think something else happened that was patronizing to Ashwin and then this incident was too much to take. It wouldn't surprise me if this has been going on for a while now and he had enough.
Guys what is patronising was the fact that Naas told Ashwin that Naas spoke throughout whole game and now he Ashwin can have his chance. That means he Naas knows more about rugby and Ashwin just listened throughout game, had nothing to say and now when camera is on he can have his chance. That is definitely undermining him as a rugby analyst on live tv. It doesnt seem that Nick Mallet was involved here This is a quarrel between two men. Lets not make it more
You are not getting it. He asked a question, first they laughed at him ridiculously and then turned their back to answer the lady who didn't even ask them anything. #notcoolman
I always respect each and every rugby player. I do speak for myself, this was not the time and place to behave that way. He could have confront them afterwards and solve the problem like grown-up's should do. All said and done the presenter was magnificent..what a lady! Well done!!!
The only racism I see here is from Ashwin referring to 'White" players. Nick and Naas did not refer to him as a Coloured player or a quota player. Where did this rant come from as things were going so well as the presenter said?. Ashwin take that huge chip off your shoulder. I call on SARFA to force Minister Toko Xasa to withdraw her racist comments and apologise to the South African public. There is no such thing as "the continued behaviour of White entitlement in rugby". It is a multiracial team picked on merit. Stop picking on rugby and explain why are there not more Whites and Coloureds in the soccer team.
Threw away my TV 12 years ago....2nd Best decision I ever made. So I never had the "pleasure" of seeing Ashwin play. Hope he didn't play as bad as he played that race card...Now if I was a person of colour, I would rather be shot than to play "the card", as it would reflect my inability to be competitive in this dog eat dog world. I'd say shape up! ....or ship out! He could not perform, felt embarrassed (caused by himself), threw a tantrum, end of story! But no.....We can drag this out endlessly. because all the "proffesional" opinions and endless possible edits of the story has not been made yet. There's a good afrikaans word for it: "K075W3KK3ND!"
@@MrWillt100 apartheid means separation so no...there is no apartheid but playing victim and blame games using your skin colour yes. Most of this race problems bs is political rich people talking trash tryna make a big thing about nothing. In reality us south africans of all different races actually live peacefully together. Politicians try start race wars every now and then which fails every single time for a reason....the reason is that blacks whites coloureds indians and chinese south africans get along just fine with another. But one clown acting like AW and the rest of the world sees it and thinks..oh what a big racist country.
Female presenter handled the turn of events extremely well. Only thing the "glad on air" shows is Ashwin's childishness. He insists they talk, and then when they do he is angry? Perhaps the full broadcast is needed to understand the context a bit more, but from this it only shows Ashwin looking like an ass. Shame, I liked his commentary. If he had a grievance, there are better ways to air it than this - and Supersport has a history of getting rid of presenters (no matter how loved or knowledgeable) for anything resembling racism or bringing them into disrepute, so if he had a valid case it would have been handled properly. Who will want to work with him now after this?
My name is Nqaba Mvinjelwa a black South African. Ashwin you have a problem my brother thanks to Naas and Nick you handle Ashwin very well. He should never again be allowed on TV until he apologize on TV.
Baqashelwe uthetha nabo batheni xa ebabuza bengaphenduli bemenza intlekisa kuqala. Kanti bekufanelanga bayancedisana na ekwabelaneni ngezimvo! Yiva lampendulo yoba "lixesha lakho ngoku" igcwele ukusa, kwaye bayamgwexa bemoja kumsebenzi wabo bonke. GOOD Ashwin, dont stay if u ar not appreciated.
Fire Willemse Now! No matter what, we never as people allow personal issues in business! Never mind involving the entire country, if Willemse wants to join the EFF he can do so on hos own time, not using public means to get Malema's attention! What a calculated gutsy move on Willemse part and he knows its going to work! Well done Malet and Botha were stunned! Incredulous.
Looking at this again objectively, it's clear that this was not a spur of the moment outburst, but that Willemse clearly had the intent to create controversy : He attempted that at 00:45 already, but that was very professionally handled and neutralised by the presenter and Mallett. At 02:45, when they were discussing the cards, and there was nothing said involving him, the presenter asked his professional opinion, and instead of doing just that, he instead used (abused) this to make his premeditated play. Unprofessional and childish. He has an ethical and professional responsibility towards Supersport, which contractual responsibility he broke - - he should be fired, and furthermore held accountable and fined / lose his remuneration.
Aaaaagh Chame we feel with you on this terrible horrible race incident in SA Rugby. For a moment there I thought it happended in a TV studio between 3 individuals... it does not look like a rugby stadium but I may be wrong. Imagine the ref giving two other players a yellow card and then red card himself! Racisiiiiiim!!!!!!!!
What a farce, I think Ashwin feels inferior to Nick Mallett & Naas Botha in terms of giving a report on the match. It’s probably something that has been building up over time. I know that Ashwin is often criticised by viewers on his pronounciation of names and words, and I think that Naas & Nick laughing just after Ashwin’s first comment triggered his reaction. I don’t believe there was any racism or patronising in any part of the broadcast. Unfortunately when someone is inferior to others and knows it, that person becomes insecure and reacts accordingly. Ashwin you can still enjoy your R50 million wealth, if & when SuperSport gets rid of you!
That was banter in the studion, not laughing at anyone. Maybe they said something about Jantjes off air? They were criticising his kicking while on attack
The man asks for the their views and they both laugh and mock at him. Even the presenter attests to that by playing it down and say: You guys trying to alert them of their unprofessionalism...
It is not that he does not acknowledge their seniority in the game, but that he feels that his contribution is being undermined and trivialized. Ashwin's outburst is the result of years, and I do mean years, of being viewed as a 'quota' analyst, and thus seen as of unequal standing with his co analysts. He has clearly reached boiling point here.
What's sad is that Ashwin doesn't realize the fact that he is a quota presenter too. Appalling English to say the least!! Why not just put him with an Afrikaans panel? Bet he wouldn't feel as inferior as he does here. Another one is Breyton Paulse. These guys should not be allowed to speak english on these platforms. Who are they gonna put there next? Ricky Januarie? I'm a coloured, and I'm sorry but I see no rasicm here..
I don't know enough about the circumstances for my comment to have relevancy, but I do think the presenter/host handled it extremely well! #Motshidisi Mohono
It will not surprise me if an accord or agreement was made long before the game, in which certain individuals decided to upset the apple cart as a power play. - I am being vague for a reason.
There is obviously more to what meets the eye in this video. Something must have happened before the guys came onto the show. I wouldn't put all (or any) of the blame on Ashwin because Naas was obviously needling him. But that's what you can expect from Mr Botha. Afterall, he wasn't called "nasty Naas" for nothing.
Yeah I couldn't see what was racist here ? Bit of a storm in a teacup over nothing really by the looks of things. From a kiwi supporter of Super Rugby. Cheers.
Not sure what caused the outburs but Nick is never afraid to tell someone when he does not agree. Watch the interview with Brendon Venter. I dont think this was about race, rather just tension that was build up over time.
I couldn't quite hear what naas said but his level of morality would not make him say anything bad or patronising. I personally feel ashwin overreacted when they enthusiastically gave him the floor first, for his own opinion.
The problem clearly lies with Ashwin, not Nick and Naas. The fact that HE feels undervalued, insecure and incompetent, is his problem and it is as clear as daylight, that he does! This is what the quota system does, it makes *average* players of colour doubt themselves. This system is doing more damage than good! We have so many great players of colour that WILL be selected purely on merit, so why do we still have this system? Ash was a good player and had one great season, but let us be honest, he didn't have a great career. His TV career has also been sub-par, as he is a terrible pundit! TERRIBLE! The BS that came out of his mouth were laughable 99% of the time. He annoyed me and literally all of my mates. Must Nic and Naas agree with dimwitted comments, because he's a little fragile snowflake? No! Sorry, Ash, you were weighed and found wanting!
Patronising South Afrikaans git. I can feel your apartheid thinking coming through in everything your saying. Bet your one of the people who say our blacks when they don't belong to you's. They don't refer to you whities as our whites, aye?
Reading these comments.... what is going on in this country? Everyone trying to prop up their side and polarize the other side..... in the end we all lose.
well it came out after that he came late for work a couple of times and he was unprepared again this time and then got angry that they want him to comment (because they know he is unprepared). So the best way out was the race card I guess or he probably really feels that way if it's true or not.
Dood seriously. Capitalizing on transformation rhetoric? Those are veterans of the game. Doesn’t matter what color they are. You are lucky to be in the same room as those guys. You pale in comparison to most New Zealand Maori’s. Yoh bru! Maybe they are egotistical condescending or whatever. But the race card is cheap and getting cheaper. You just need to be better than them. Identity politics is on its way out, it’s the root of power and corruption and is the same as apartheid. As a white safrican my sevens hero’s are not white players. This shit has got to stop because it ends badly for everyone. That is for sure.
Fatima Kasu Not sure, and I don’t know them but maybe off camera they are and that is what has upset Ashwin. But then you address the issue, you don’t launch a PR campaign using a race card. It only serves to divide and we need to work together.
Around 0:25, I initially didn't think much of it, but what Mallet says there is seemingly the final straw. The woman even acknowledges the insult and wades in with raised voice, almost like she was bringing order in a classroom (Heeey, guys....there's a (match?)... blah blah) It is hard to catch, but Mallet sounds like he says, "Obviously you're a quota" or "Obviously your quota". It sounded demeaning but came across as "friendly" banter, but I get think that it would have been picked up in the media, walk-out or not. The jibe reduces Willemse rugby career to the label of "affirmative action product" ie. because of his colour, not merit. Two players(white) reducing the rugby career of a another (black) to just a quota, on live TV, multiple levels of wrong. Are people surprised at why offense was taken or how? Some would say childish, but the whole walk-out speech about self-respect seems to reflect a deep insult, and people have flipped out on TV on less.
Never heard of Ashwin till this story came about. Doesn't seem like he's been playing this sport for a while. He doesn't have a lot of games under him anyways
Who called him a quota player? I watched the video again and again and unless i am missing something no one there called him a quota player. Can someone send me a link of the exact moment they called him a quota player? Where is the racism people are going on about?
The information from Supersport thus far is that their was NO RACISM involved when this incident took place and that there was some good discussions among the three guys involved. They also informed that it almost a done deal that all three will be on set on Saturday again. They will however continue to investigate the situation in an attempt to obtain valid reasons for the outburst, in order to maintain good work relations among all employees. So to the sports minister and all of those who wanted to paint Ashwin as some sort of a hero for what ever freaking crazy whack reason, we have to say this..........................YOU ARE LOOKING STUPID RIGHT NOW AND THE SPORTS MINISTER ONCE AGAIN SHOWED US THE RACISM IN WHITE PREJUDICE FROM NON WHITES. This is a BIG WIN FOR NAAS AND NICK and a up yours to Ashwin & Co who allowed misled emotion to take control of him lololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Group dynamics. Place two sportsmen with the cult-like status as supermen on the same panel as a relative junior and the exact same dynamic will take place. However in South Africa it is simply racism. The victim is black and the two supermen are white with an Apartheid history. Thus we have a black victim and racist white perpetrators therefore everyone shouts RACISM!
I know the type - learned to keep his mouth shut all these years and pretend along like everything is fine. Most of us can't do that, not for any price. I have no sympathy for any of these players who pretend this is anything but a boer team with black players added. What should have happened was these racists who were quite happy to play under apartheid should have been expelled from the sport. All their managers every player sent into disgrace. They should have played for Orania and let the rest of us play for the country. These Ashwyn types want to get radical and strip their moer now? It's too late. All of their farce has added to the suffering of our country and they grew successful (talented sure, but without principles). No - their example of going for career and sacrificing principles has led to the deep-seated corruption and zero integrity that permeates our nation today
All I saw is Ashwin not taking his chance to talk when Naas asked him to comment on the game.....THAT IS A JOKE!!! and Ashwin should get fired he didn't do his job so Naas and Nick had to jump in..... The presenter handled it well, good for her and the other two just just as good shows you their character handling something so pathetic ferry well.
Saarks is a light weight. He was a fair player, then he got the presenter job(probably because they needed colour)then he got a lot of money in a "BEE" deal. But alas, people do not treat him as a legend, and apparently he does not prepare like he should, is unreliable regarding his presence at work, so,...surely they have to be racist.
I think the the first response was the issure here and yet they lough about it because to me it sounded like they think he does not know what to say he only rely on what their going to say. The first one made him look stupid on the international TV
Since when do presenters "wash their washing" on tv.....very unprofessional! Whatever problem he had should have been sorted out afterwards...not on air!
Charné Du toit please explain the racism part , or is that just click bait? Willemse this is the big leagues, take it or leave it! You've just proved you can't cut it as a quota reporter.
You have this video monetized but you're not willing to continue a discussion that you start with click bait. Even though i do no agree with Harley's comment about the big leagues, it seems he might be right about the rest.
Ashwin has obviously been feeling this way for some time. His calm demeanor suggests that he has been thinking about this. If he was suddenly overcome with a sense of outrage at the way he has been treated, undermined, patronized or whatever - I don't believe his tone would have been so measured and calm. There is more to this, apparently, than meets the eye. People are way too sensitive about the race issue right now in South Africa - but it appears that if you are white, you are automatically assumed to be racist - whether legitimately or not. "It's a fine mess we are in, Stanley....."
When i first saw this i thought Ashwin was being a spoilt baby. In retrospect after 3 years with an unbiased view, one can feel for him. They did do all the talking and then throw him a bone. They are still legends and i don't think they did it on purpose. It's just their passion for the game and that's what makes them great.
@@muppet50yago36 exactly its that guy at work that expects to be carried through the day....got caught out on his laziness and threw the race card. It just showed him up to be a racist.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂greatness is measured how ...soo many players of colour arent mentioned nor recognised i suggest u readup on the history of SARU PLAYERS OF COLOUR THEN COMPARE IT TO THESE SO CALLED GREAT SPRINGBOKS ...WESTERN CAPE EASTERN CAPE ARE A FEW KWARU YET S.A RUBY GIVES THE IMPRESSION THE GAME HAS EVOLVED DO NOT FOOL PPLE IF U DO NOT KNOW THE HISTORY NOR THE STRUGGLES PLUS THEN THE TOP SCHOOLS HIJACK THESE KIDS OR PLAYERS OF COLOUR THEN SAY THEY COME THRU THE DEVELOPEMENT STRUCTUTE ITS NATURAL TALENT SPEED SIDE STEP KICKING CURRENTY ITS STILL HAPPENING IN RUGBY WHICH IS SICKENING TO THE CORE ...PAYCHECK DEF MAKES U A SELLOUT ...PLUS THEN ASWELL SELF BENEFIT ...BUT EOT DO I KNOW THE YUSUF DAVIDS WP SARU SPRINGBOK LOCK ...GO READUP ...MAYB U WILL GET SUM MORE INSIGHT AS TO HOW RACIST S.A RUGBY PLUS TOP CLUBS IN WESTERNCAPE STILL ARE FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL PLUS SPONSORSHIP DEALS PLAYERS TRANSFERS MATCHES BEING REFFED ..RESULTS TO BENEFIT THE TOP FLIGHT CLUBS KILLING THE SMALLER CLUBS SCOUTING THEIR TOP PLAYERS TO JUDT NOT PLAY GET GAME TIME JUST TO KILL THEIR CAREERS ....ITS SICKENING THESE SOOO CALLED GREATS WILL GO TO ON LIVE TV TO KILL PLAYERS CARREERS WITH BIASED COMMENTS YET WHITE PLAYERS ARENT COMMENTED ON WHEN MAKING EXACT SAME MISTAKE OR WORSE ...
surely in Africa be serious and please let's have respect for one another . everything you do will one day come back to you and that is a promise. Stop childishness .we are all one whether we like it or not
Really don't know wot bug crawled up Willemse's arse. As a studio guy he had a lot of insightful things to say about a match and i found him interesting to listen to.
Inadvertent rudeness taken as racism. If they were all of identical ethnicity it would be considered as friendly banter. BUT in the current climate anyone with a lighter skin walks on eggshells for fear of being misconstrued.
listen from 00 : 12 to 00:30 they clearly undermined him ,they where talking while he is making his analysis and made silly jokes which is very disrespectful you can hear at 00 : 22 he is trying to stay calm because of what they where discussing was not really related to the match you can hear him say "maybe you guys have no views on the game" maybe they were not being racist but i understand why he acted that way
So did I get that right, there was a yellow card then a red card, another yellow card, and finally a race card?
Ray Maritz
And it ended with willemse showing a b*tch card.
Holy crap that's funny.
Bwahahaha!
LOL.
😂😂😂😂
Well, the presenter really handled that well.
what did u expect her to do? to handle it badly?
Its easy to be drawn into an argument, its mature to steer away like she did. You should try it
She doesn't want to loose the job obviously.
Zee Zee, nobody wants to loose their job, agree. Thats why she has the job. She is good.
True but Ashwin was tired of begging to keep the job.
Basically what happened was that the guy in the middle of the desk asked a producer off-air to give the guy who walked off an opportunity to talk first. The guy who walked off saw this as a patronizing act and took offence. That's why in the beginning they're giving him a chance to speak but he doesn't. He feels like he's being undermined and (I'm assuming) his inferiority complex and/or built up frustration led to this all coming out.
Looking at the footage, you can tell the guy who walked off doesn't have much analysis to give and requests the other two guy's opinions. When the guy on the right (under the impression they're supposed to give the guy who walked off a chance to speak) didn't want to give his analysis and rather requested the guy who walked off to give his opinion, you can see he looks nervous since he has nothing to say and then requests of the guy in the middle of the desk to talk. Then at around 0:33 you can see what I'm assuming to be the producer telling him that he can go ahead and the guy who walked off doesn't have to speak. After giving a great breakdown of the game, the guy who walked off feels inferior and his outbreak happens. Pretty childish if you ask me.
Was because he didn't arrive until half time and didn't watch the game. He felt entitled by skin colour to get thr pay cheque without putting in the work. And when they joked with.him to speak he lost his marbles
@@MetYsJa sounds like alot of people making assumptions without the facts...with your assumption particularly hinting at something troubling within your old world view. Rather acknowledge that you don't know what happened behind the scenes besides commenting on his ability as an analyst. The guy who walked off has a masters degree so I don't think there he ever felt entitled in fact, if you dig a bit into his life you will see that he had to fight for everything.
Well I know the 'behind the scenes' situation. Naas and Nick always sat through the games in studio, discussed it as it happened, and put together clips they wanted to comment on specifically. Ashwin didn't. He walked around, talked to people and ate lunch during games. As a result his analysis was vague and general at best. Naas was always fully involved in the action. Nick was a more quiet person, but they both did their work. Ashwin looked like a fool because he didn't, and that obviously made him feel inferior. He was too arrogant to see that it was him and not his skin colour that was the problem. Listen to the two guys and you will see it clearly.
I tell you what happened here, it is clear that when Ashwin had the floor to do the post game wrap up, he was like a high school student who didn't prepare well enough for a speech or presentation in front of the class, then diverted the attention to his "fellow classmates" to buy up time, waiting for the school bell to ring. And then he threw a tantrum because he got exposed for not doing his homework, he should have gone straight to the headmasters office for 6 of the best.
You are 100% spot on Rocket Man!
I also got that idea.
Rocket Man out of all the theories I think this sticks.
Rocket Man it's sad how you think someone's ability to speak English is a measure of their intelligence. Odds are I speak and write better English than you but you don't see me trying to belittle you over it
no one mentioned his English or ability of vernacular at all, he is simply stating that he feels Ash was not prepared to give his analysis. Work with what was said in the statement, don't put words in ones mouth , no one is belittling here.
One can clearly see what happened. Ashwin Willmse was angered by the way Naas responded when he asked him to comment about the game.'I have used all the time before the game.All your time' He felt that he was undermining him by refusing to comment'.Unless Botha/ Mallet had been saying other negative things before this incident,this is not a big issue.If Willmse says they have been undermining him before this incident one can understand.At the moment no clear evidence of racism.
@NongomaTV thanks! i appreciate your insightful response; I saw that upthread @CharlesJorgensen noted that it would be great if they could resolve this issue; I strongly support that as we need examples of resolution that do not involve 'making either party ultimately bad'
Aswin's insecurity coming out there.
you can't prove patronisation. In that sense Ashwin will have a difficult time explaining his decision to walk off.
The whites haven't really changed have they.
Nothing really happened, he asked Naas to speak and they said it's your turn. Bizarre little fit haha.
Old adage “when there is no enemy within… “ ..
In my honest opinion, Ashwin did not have to jump in at the beginning to turn the focus towards himself just to redirect it back to Naas. It was clear that Ashwin Willemse was unprepared, thus the redirection to Naas to help himself out of a tight spot. Both Naas and Nick was annoyed by this and tried to get Ashwin Willemse to man up to his own mistakes.
I have lost all my respect for Ashwin Willemse as a human being for turning this into a racist issue. I have massive respect for Nick as I always find his comments to be spot on and straight to the point. I love watching Breyton Paulse manning the big screen as he always have this possitive, energetic attitude and the way he addresses the media with accurate responses and
Nothing on this recording can ever be labeled as racist. Anyone who sees it in that light is foolish. I'm sure if Jean or Victor or Butch or Bobby or who ever else were in Ashwin's shoes with the same kind of attitude and laid back mentality, they would have received the same response from the hard working individuals in the team.
Put yourself in Nick's shoes and think of your working environment and working on an important project with other team members. How will you react if the quality, accuracy and timing of the projects are constantly being hampered by the same individual who seems to be riding on the success of others and not pulling his weight and putting in the effort that is expected of him. At some point, someone is going to voice their frustrations, and I fail to see how that can be seen as being racist.
He just had a tantrum. No big deal. There are much bigger problems in Springbok rugby than this Lil hissy fit
Guys you miss the plot !!
Willemse came in late, and did not watch the game. That's why he asked Naas & Nick for their comment, because he COULD not comment, as he didn't see the game. So then Naas joked with him, & told him that they had had their fair share of commentary during the game, and that he can also now contribute by wrapping up the game, which of course he couldn't do, sort of putting him in a tight spot for not attending & watching the game with them. Eventually Naas & Nick wrapped up the game, and just after this, the whole debacle happened, because he probably got frightened into another blood group, thinking that they have blown his cover, and that's why
he pulled out the race card, as this is what some of these people do when they cannot win the argument.
Strangely, you won't hear him apologising on TV for what he's done. Also, I doubt whether we'll ever hear the slightest of an apology from the min of sport, as well as Gwede, who were very quick to judge Naas & Nick.
Sorry to inform you Ashwin, but you've lost many, many people's respect since this incident. From now on people will always think you're a bullshitter!!
I came to watch this video so I could join the crowd in accusing these guys of racism, as everyone seems to be. There's nothing racist at all that was said by those 2 elderly guys, they were giving analysis on the game, that Ashwin guy just came out of nowhere with that "I wont be patronised...." nonsense.
No guys, we are wrong. That Ashwin needs to man up and apologise for what he, wrongfully, tried to accuse those guys of. Okanye atleast explain himself, on how he thought they were patronising and demeaning him.
That's what I'm talking about. Good for you my friend. Nice to see an objective viewpoint.
What was said off air really? Why are you referring to racism? Why must the racist card always come into "PLAY"
Cause the replies here are arrogant and bloody racist. Think about it dude.
No
Lol I still don't understand whats going on here. Maybe I need to watch the whole thing from the start
Same here. I'd love to see what Ash was referring to... I'm pretty much lost.
None of us do. It was off screen
There's been a bit written about it on Sprts24. It seems more like a tiff between 2 guys who just didn't get along, to be honest. www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/revealed-what-caused-former-bok-to-walk-off-set-20180520
Nothing happened. When any person of colour plays the race card I call it bullshit. Any comments about the past or whatever doesn't effect me, cos I wasn't there and I didn't do anything. I know only mostly one-way racism today. Black on White, maybe in the past it was the other way around. How far back in the past do we go. Don't forget the British killed of a large population of the Afrikaaners in concentration camps in 1900's. I don't here anything about that..
So fck the racist card, whomever uses it is the racist, easiest way to confirm
Maybe because we understand that harping on about past injustice does not build a better future.
Ashwin, I understand, they were patronising you. Every workplace has that, it normally from the older "know it all" folks...but to claim it's racism? nah bro.
I'd also be pissed if I was the "standing by the TV" guy my whole life.
Well then you talk to the producers
Actually he should consider himself lucky he got the job because he is terrible at it.
He makes good money standing by the tv
OMG Ashwin could not handle the fact that Nick and Naas opinions were more valued than his but it was the presenter that negotiated the discussion not Nick and Naas .So obviously AW just being childish and immature .He asked Naas and Nick their opinions and let the presenter move the discussion to them .What no racism here just an immature and unprofessional AW using these tactics to make him seem like a hero when infact it was just a spat and he lost the discussion like a regular male losing tantrum.
Maybe Ashwin should talk about his racist BEE tender of R50 million that he was awarded
Raoul Virissimo please stop being ignorant
How is he ignorant
Ntombikayise Dlamini stop being stale with your victim entitled mentality
Shoot the Boer
Anyone these days can use the word racist to cover their own track of privilege. BEE is there to equalise the past ills, I Implementation has been found wanting but one thing is clear, I doing nothing is not an option, so those who see it as a racist policy, I ask why were you silent on the previous racist policy and what do you suggest we do differently. I insults are not an answer, Just a refuge for the weak
I believe this is the later half of the conversation. I think something else happened that was patronizing to Ashwin and then this incident was too much to take. It wouldn't surprise me if this has been going on for a while now and he had enough.
What was racist?, Had to be something off screen
TheUltimate SharpShooter nothing was racist.. willemser is just super sennsative ... he told them to talk then complains about it after ..
Guys what is patronising was the fact that Naas told Ashwin that Naas spoke throughout whole game and now he Ashwin can have his chance. That means he Naas knows more about rugby and Ashwin just listened throughout game, had nothing to say and now when camera is on he can have his chance.
That is definitely undermining him as a rugby analyst on live tv. It doesnt seem that Nick Mallet was involved here
This is a quarrel between two men.
Lets not make it more
You are not getting it. He asked a question, first they laughed at him ridiculously and then turned their back to answer the lady who didn't even ask them anything. #notcoolman
daramola ola you don't understand
Ashwin used the word patronising straight after Naas comment
Let him walk. Much better "black" commentators on air anyway
I always respect each and every rugby player. I do speak for myself, this was not the time and place to behave that way. He could have confront them afterwards and solve the problem like grown-up's should do. All said and done the presenter was magnificent..what a lady! Well done!!!
He was right to do it live
Silence is approval. Imagine Nelson Mandela kept quiet and waited a bit to speak up
The only racism I see here is from Ashwin referring to 'White" players. Nick and Naas did not refer to him as a Coloured player or a quota player. Where did this rant come from as things were going so well as the presenter said?. Ashwin take that huge chip off your shoulder. I call on SARFA to force Minister Toko Xasa to withdraw her racist comments and apologise to the South African public. There is no such thing as "the continued behaviour of White entitlement in rugby". It is a multiracial team picked on merit. Stop picking on rugby and explain why are there not more Whites and Coloureds in the soccer team.
Asseblief...apartheid? You have GOT to be kidding me
Must be van Riebeeck's fault, again. (and I don't care about the spelling)
What has race to do with it????
Maya Brits He asked Naas a question which Naas refused to answer and laughed it off, which was clearly disrespectful...
Angus Moses being disrespectful has nothing to do with race...
Everything we white so by default we all guilty.
Isn't it the part where he said "It's all your type"?
Or did he say "It's all your time"?
Threw away my TV 12 years ago....2nd Best decision I ever made. So I never had the "pleasure" of seeing Ashwin play. Hope he didn't play as bad as he played that race card...Now if I was a person of colour, I would rather be shot than to play "the card", as it would reflect my inability to be competitive in this dog eat dog world. I'd say shape up! ....or ship out! He could not perform, felt embarrassed (caused by himself), threw a tantrum, end of story! But no.....We can drag this out endlessly. because all the "proffesional" opinions and endless possible edits of the story has not been made yet. There's a good afrikaans word for it: "K075W3KK3ND!"
Hee hee hee I can tell by what I'm reading here Apartheid is still alive and well aye guys.
@@MrWillt100 apartheid means separation so no...there is no apartheid but playing victim and blame games using your skin colour yes. Most of this race problems bs is political rich people talking trash tryna make a big thing about nothing. In reality us south africans of all different races actually live peacefully together. Politicians try start race wars every now and then which fails every single time for a reason....the reason is that blacks whites coloureds indians and chinese south africans get along just fine with another. But one clown acting like AW and the rest of the world sees it and thinks..oh what a big racist country.
The real story here: Ashwin didn't do his homework.
He walked off, the show continued not a big deal
Excellently handled by the TV Anchor!
Just because a truth makes you feel bed, doesn't stop it being a fact
Female presenter handled the turn of events extremely well. Only thing the "glad on air" shows is Ashwin's childishness. He insists they talk, and then when they do he is angry? Perhaps the full broadcast is needed to understand the context a bit more, but from this it only shows Ashwin looking like an ass. Shame, I liked his commentary. If he had a grievance, there are better ways to air it than this - and Supersport has a history of getting rid of presenters (no matter how loved or knowledgeable) for anything resembling racism or bringing them into disrepute, so if he had a valid case it would have been handled properly. Who will want to work with him now after this?
Its a matter of bantering not disrespecting. We do that while watching rugby you know
My name is Nqaba Mvinjelwa a black South African. Ashwin you have a problem my brother thanks to Naas and Nick you handle Ashwin very well. He should never again be allowed on TV until he apologize on TV.
Baqashelwe uthetha nabo batheni xa ebabuza bengaphenduli bemenza intlekisa kuqala. Kanti bekufanelanga bayancedisana na ekwabelaneni ngezimvo! Yiva lampendulo yoba "lixesha lakho ngoku" igcwele ukusa, kwaye bayamgwexa bemoja kumsebenzi wabo bonke. GOOD Ashwin, dont stay if u ar not appreciated.
Fire Willemse Now! No matter what, we never as people allow personal issues in business! Never mind involving the entire country, if Willemse wants to join the EFF he can do so on hos own time, not using public means to get Malema's attention! What a calculated gutsy move on Willemse part and he knows its going to work! Well done Malet and Botha were stunned! Incredulous.
Looking at this again objectively, it's clear that this was not a spur of the moment outburst, but that Willemse clearly had the intent to create controversy : He attempted that at 00:45 already, but that was very professionally handled and neutralised by the presenter and Mallett. At 02:45, when they were discussing the cards, and there was nothing said involving him, the presenter asked his professional opinion, and instead of doing just that, he instead used (abused) this to make his premeditated play. Unprofessional and childish. He has an ethical and professional responsibility towards Supersport, which contractual responsibility he broke - - he should be fired, and furthermore held accountable and fined / lose his remuneration.
Man you whites can talk aye.
@@MrWillt100 your comment was technically racist bro but it's all good here
@@mullerwest4353 Agreed, he's entitled to his personal opinion
Aaaaagh Chame we feel with you on this terrible horrible race incident in SA Rugby. For a moment there I thought it happended in a TV studio between 3 individuals... it does not look like a rugby stadium but I may be wrong. Imagine the ref giving two other players a yellow card and then red card himself! Racisiiiiiim!!!!!!!!
What a farce, I think Ashwin feels inferior to Nick Mallett & Naas Botha in terms of giving a report on the match. It’s probably something that has been building up over time. I know that Ashwin is often criticised by viewers on his pronounciation of names and words, and I think that Naas & Nick laughing just after Ashwin’s first comment triggered his reaction.
I don’t believe there was any racism or patronising in any part of the broadcast. Unfortunately when someone is inferior to others and knows it, that person becomes insecure and reacts accordingly.
Ashwin you can still enjoy your R50 million wealth, if & when SuperSport gets rid of you!
That was banter in the studion, not laughing at anyone. Maybe they said something about Jantjes off air? They were criticising his kicking while on attack
exactly what i get and feel from this do you remember last year they also had an minor indecent
R G - Do you also chukkle at the way Ashwin says the Sharks?
Maybe they were laughing about Jantjies hairstyle
R G what about Naas Botha's pronounciation and accent ? How better is it ?
The man asks for the their views and they both laugh and mock at him. Even the presenter attests to that by playing it down and say: You guys trying to alert them of their unprofessionalism...
Ashwen clearly smoking something bad before the show... that's a bad trip if I ever saw one.
It is not that he does not acknowledge their seniority in the game, but that he feels that his contribution is being undermined and trivialized. Ashwin's outburst is the result of years, and I do mean years, of being viewed as a 'quota' analyst, and thus seen as of unequal standing with his co analysts. He has clearly reached boiling point here.
Do you know exactly what happened off-air?
this ruby guyz will never change honestly
What's sad is that Ashwin doesn't realize the fact that he is a quota presenter too. Appalling English to say the least!! Why not just put him with an Afrikaans panel? Bet he wouldn't feel as inferior as he does here. Another one is Breyton Paulse. These guys should not be allowed to speak english on these platforms. Who are they gonna put there next? Ricky Januarie? I'm a coloured, and I'm sorry but I see no rasicm here..
Old pumpkin head arrived late again like he usually does because he is out to lunch and thinks he is the bees knees. Get him boys.
I don't know enough about the circumstances for my comment to have relevancy, but I do think the presenter/host handled it extremely well! #Motshidisi Mohono
It will not surprise me if an accord or agreement was made long before the game, in which certain individuals decided to upset the apple cart as a power play. - I am being vague for a reason.
something could have happened off screen , but not here
Ashwin does explain his views quite well on the Afrikaans commentary channels.
Incompetance hidding behind the race card. Red for you Aswin
There is obviously more to what meets the eye in this video. Something must have happened before the guys came onto the show. I wouldn't put all (or any) of the blame on Ashwin because Naas was obviously needling him. But that's what you can expect from Mr Botha. Afterall, he wasn't called "nasty Naas" for nothing.
Yeah I couldn't see what was racist here ? Bit of a storm in a teacup over nothing really by the looks of things. From a kiwi supporter of Super Rugby. Cheers.
Not sure what caused the outburs but Nick is never afraid to tell someone when he does not agree. Watch the interview with Brendon Venter. I dont think this was about race, rather just tension that was build up over time.
I couldn't quite hear what naas said but his level of morality would not make him say anything bad or patronising. I personally feel ashwin overreacted when they enthusiastically gave him the floor first, for his own opinion.
The problem clearly lies with Ashwin, not Nick and Naas. The fact that HE feels undervalued, insecure and incompetent, is his problem and it is as clear as daylight, that he does! This is what the quota system does, it makes *average* players of colour doubt themselves. This system is doing more damage than good! We have so many great players of colour that WILL be selected purely on merit, so why do we still have this system? Ash was a good player and had one great season, but let us be honest, he didn't have a great career. His TV career has also been sub-par, as he is a terrible pundit! TERRIBLE! The BS that came out of his mouth were laughable 99% of the time. He annoyed me and literally all of my mates. Must Nic and Naas agree with dimwitted comments, because he's a little fragile snowflake? No! Sorry, Ash, you were weighed and found wanting!
E Verm I totally disagree !!
Patronising South Afrikaans git. I can feel your apartheid thinking coming through in everything your saying. Bet your one of the people who say our blacks when they don't belong to you's. They don't refer to you whities as our whites, aye?
Reading these comments.... what is going on in this country? Everyone trying to prop up their side and polarize the other side..... in the end we all lose.
well it came out after that he came late for work a couple of times and he was unprepared again this time and then got angry that they want him to comment (because they know he is unprepared). So the best way out was the race card I guess or he probably really feels that way if it's true or not.
Maybe these guy's said something off air , i don't understand why he got so touched about what the guy said.
Ben Sekwena yes it was off camera
He was not in a good mood
Maybe not
Dood seriously. Capitalizing on transformation rhetoric? Those are veterans of the game. Doesn’t matter what color they are. You are lucky to be in the same room as those guys. You pale in comparison to most New Zealand Maori’s. Yoh bru! Maybe they are egotistical condescending or whatever. But the race card is cheap and getting cheaper. You just need to be better than them. Identity politics is on its way out, it’s the root of power and corruption and is the same as apartheid. As a white safrican my sevens hero’s are not white players. This shit has got to stop because it ends badly for everyone. That is for sure.
are u meaning that Nick an Naas is condescending
Fatima Kasu Not sure, and I don’t know them but maybe off camera they are and that is what has upset Ashwin. But then you address the issue, you don’t launch a PR campaign using a race card. It only serves to divide and we need to work together.
Im glad it happened on Air so people world wide can see the Pity of Apartheid
Around 0:25, I initially didn't think much of it, but what Mallet says there is seemingly the final straw. The woman even acknowledges the insult and wades in with raised voice, almost like she was bringing order in a classroom (Heeey, guys....there's a (match?)... blah blah)
It is hard to catch, but Mallet sounds like he says, "Obviously you're a quota" or "Obviously your quota". It sounded demeaning but came across as "friendly" banter, but I get think that it would have been picked up in the media, walk-out or not. The jibe reduces Willemse rugby career to the label of "affirmative action product" ie. because of his colour, not merit.
Two players(white) reducing the rugby career of a another (black) to just a quota, on live TV, multiple levels of wrong. Are people surprised at why offense was taken or how? Some would say childish, but the whole walk-out speech about self-respect seems to reflect a deep insult, and people have flipped out on TV on less.
Never heard of Ashwin till this story came about. Doesn't seem like he's been playing this sport for a while. He doesn't have a lot of games under him anyways
Just like he was a quota for SA rugby, he was a quota for SuperSport...Willemse abusing his position...feel sorry for Mallet and Botha
Ja Charne. Why not? Who does not know Mr. Nick Mallet.
Is it the point where he said "It's all your type"? Or did he say"..time"?
That was funny....'Ash had so much to say...' haha
holy shit that host was slick .
Who called him a quota player? I watched the video again and again and unless i am missing something no one there called him a quota player. Can someone send me a link of the exact moment they called him a quota player? Where is the racism people are going on about?
Naas probably commented on the kwota system before the game.
He probably didn't
My guess is something like that, but it's just speculation though.
Ya what the hells happening here
The information from Supersport thus far is that their was NO RACISM involved when this incident took place and that there was some good discussions among the three guys involved. They also informed that it almost a done deal that all three will be on set on Saturday again. They will however continue to investigate the situation in an attempt to obtain valid reasons for the outburst, in order to maintain good work relations among all employees. So to the sports minister and all of those who wanted to paint Ashwin as some sort of a hero for what ever freaking crazy whack reason, we have to say this..........................YOU ARE LOOKING STUPID RIGHT NOW AND THE SPORTS MINISTER ONCE AGAIN SHOWED US THE RACISM IN WHITE PREJUDICE FROM NON WHITES. This is a BIG WIN FOR NAAS AND NICK and a up yours to Ashwin & Co who allowed misled emotion to take control of him lololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Group dynamics. Place two sportsmen with the cult-like status as supermen on the same panel as a relative junior and the exact same dynamic will take place. However in South Africa it is simply racism. The victim is black and the two supermen are white with an Apartheid history. Thus we have a black victim and racist white perpetrators therefore everyone shouts RACISM!
I know the type - learned to keep his mouth shut all these years and pretend along like everything is fine. Most of us can't do that, not for any price. I have no sympathy for any of these players who pretend this is anything but a boer team with black players added. What should have happened was these racists who were quite happy to play under apartheid should have been expelled from the sport. All their managers every player sent into disgrace. They should have played for Orania and let the rest of us play for the country. These Ashwyn types want to get radical and strip their moer now? It's too late. All of their farce has added to the suffering of our country and they grew successful (talented sure, but without principles). No - their example of going for career and sacrificing principles has led to the deep-seated corruption and zero integrity that permeates our nation today
What a chop
All I saw is Ashwin not taking his chance to talk when Naas asked him to comment on the game.....THAT IS A JOKE!!! and Ashwin should get fired he didn't do his job so Naas and Nick had to jump in..... The presenter handled it well, good for her and the other two just just as good shows you their character handling something so pathetic ferry well.
WTF??!! Who undermined him? I did not get this at all.
Saarks is a light weight. He was a fair player, then he got the presenter job(probably because they needed colour)then he got a lot of money in a "BEE" deal. But alas, people do not treat him as a legend, and apparently he does not prepare like he should, is unreliable regarding his presence at work, so,...surely they have to be racist.
I think the the first response was the issure here and yet they lough about it because to me it sounded like they think he does not know what to say he only rely on what their going to say. The first one made him look stupid on the international TV
Since when do presenters "wash their washing" on tv.....very unprofessional! Whatever problem he had should have been sorted out afterwards...not on air!
Wonder what happened behind the scenes
Charné Du toit please explain the racism part , or is that just click bait? Willemse this is the big leagues, take it or leave it! You've just proved you can't cut it as a quota reporter.
Harley Mills not even going to comment. Sorry. Not going to start a war
You have this video monetized but you're not willing to continue a discussion that you start with click bait. Even though i do no agree with Harley's comment about the big leagues, it seems he might be right about the rest.
Wonder where the poes is now? Never hear of him these days..
Inferiority complexes though 😂
He's a worse quota presenter than he was a quota player. Threw up a little each time he mentioned the "Sarks".
Ashwin has obviously been feeling this way for some time. His calm demeanor suggests that he has been thinking about this. If he was suddenly overcome with a sense of outrage at the way he has been treated, undermined, patronized or whatever - I don't believe his tone would have been so measured and calm. There is more to this, apparently, than meets the eye. People are way too sensitive about the race issue right now in South Africa - but it appears that if you are white, you are automatically assumed to be racist - whether legitimately or not. "It's a fine mess we are in, Stanley....."
Feelings VS facts
Well I don't know what happened
She is magnificent though... wat a pro!
When i first saw this i thought Ashwin was being a spoilt baby. In retrospect after 3 years with an unbiased view, one can feel for him. They did do all the talking and then throw him a bone. They are still legends and i don't think they did it on purpose. It's just their passion for the game and that's what makes them great.
Ashwin went out for a smoke break and demanded they give him points to speak on. He doesn't do his job and played the race card.
@@muppet50yago36 exactly its that guy at work that expects to be carried through the day....got caught out on his laziness and threw the race card. It just showed him up to be a racist.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂greatness is measured how ...soo many players of colour arent mentioned nor recognised i suggest u readup on the history of SARU PLAYERS OF COLOUR THEN COMPARE IT TO THESE SO CALLED GREAT SPRINGBOKS ...WESTERN CAPE EASTERN CAPE ARE A FEW KWARU YET S.A RUBY GIVES THE IMPRESSION THE GAME HAS EVOLVED DO NOT FOOL PPLE IF U DO NOT KNOW THE HISTORY NOR THE STRUGGLES PLUS THEN THE TOP SCHOOLS HIJACK THESE KIDS OR PLAYERS OF COLOUR THEN SAY THEY COME THRU THE DEVELOPEMENT STRUCTUTE ITS NATURAL TALENT SPEED SIDE STEP KICKING CURRENTY ITS STILL HAPPENING IN RUGBY WHICH IS SICKENING TO THE CORE ...PAYCHECK DEF MAKES U A SELLOUT ...PLUS THEN ASWELL SELF BENEFIT ...BUT EOT DO I KNOW THE YUSUF DAVIDS WP SARU SPRINGBOK LOCK ...GO READUP ...MAYB U WILL GET SUM MORE INSIGHT AS TO HOW RACIST S.A RUGBY PLUS TOP CLUBS IN WESTERNCAPE STILL ARE FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL PLUS SPONSORSHIP DEALS PLAYERS TRANSFERS MATCHES BEING REFFED ..RESULTS TO BENEFIT THE TOP FLIGHT CLUBS KILLING THE SMALLER CLUBS SCOUTING THEIR TOP PLAYERS TO JUDT NOT PLAY GET GAME TIME JUST TO KILL THEIR CAREERS ....ITS SICKENING THESE SOOO CALLED GREATS WILL GO TO ON LIVE TV TO KILL PLAYERS CARREERS WITH BIASED COMMENTS YET WHITE PLAYERS ARENT COMMENTED ON WHEN MAKING EXACT SAME MISTAKE OR WORSE ...
Presenter passes him the ball twice. He fumbles them both. Blames history and woman becomes man of the match. Hoorah.
surely in Africa be serious and please let's have respect for one another . everything you do will one day come back to you and that is a promise. Stop childishness .we are all one whether we like it or not
Come come Ashwin, you are better than this, surely!!!
Not everyone suffers from white guilt. Please consider a tax on those that do. Then at least we can be treated as equal citizens at some point in time
Really don't know wot bug crawled up Willemse's arse.
As a studio guy he had a lot of insightful things to say about a match and i found him interesting to listen to.
What did he say ?
Dok Craven draai in sy graf om, want hy het in die Apartheids-era in Zimbabwe gaan vergader om toetse in SA gespeel te kry. Dit was moeilike the.
@Charné du Toit why do you label this video as racist? Please explain where you see the racism?
Racism? No. Quota? Yes.
OK so it's shirts VS blouses?
Inadvertent rudeness taken as racism. If they were all of identical ethnicity it would be considered as friendly banter. BUT in the current climate anyone with a lighter skin walks on eggshells for fear of being misconstrued.
What was said wrong? before he walked out. He needs to grow up
listen from 00 : 12 to 00:30 they clearly undermined him ,they where talking while he is making his analysis and made silly jokes which is very disrespectful you can hear at 00 : 22 he is trying to stay calm because of what they where discussing was not really related to the match you can hear him say "maybe you guys have no views on the game" maybe they were not being racist but i understand why he acted that way
Naas says you looking at carts yellow carts ,these Whitties must also be taken for arsers