Wow indeed! Five years on and this person has still not provided a shred of evidence to back up his serious and malicious accusation of racism. All he has done is spout vague, pseudo-inteelectual drivel in a safe space.
So encouraged by your fearlessness and brave spirit, Ashwin Willemse. It is right and just for us to pursue matters succintly so that we can bring to unity, instead of divide.
Inferiority Complex is a term used to describe people who compensate for feelings of inferiority (feeling like they're less than other people, not as good as others, worthless, etc.) by acting ways that make them appear superior. They do this because controlling others may help them feel less personally inadequate. Inferiority complex - Wikipedia
Tried hard not to say anything but years after cannot help but comment on how pathetic and naive these people are. Should not have been in same room as other pundits. Shame
Everytime I get confronted with anything that smells prejudice I ask myself this question; How do I think Madiba would've dealt with this one? and one thing I know he did with exception is not to feel pity for himself, he actually had a way to leverage in that situation and turn it into an educational programme for those in question....How I so wish that Eshwin did the same!
Please I have left the past behind don't let me turn my back on those I love if u are white yes I'm saying it you were never treated the way we were we had to depend on God to get us through this we gained the respect we have by giving respect....
I don't know how old u are or what Era u or country u from but u sound like u never lived in SA I hate looking back or even talking about what happened to me in the 60's I'm just glad I conquered that Era...
Totally scripted. These 2 guys have worked on this for a while. I could see how Ashwin was forgetting his lines. Not a single piece of evidence of prejudice by Nick & Naas. I now believe the initial mention that Ashwin was ill prepared for the show & created this fall out as a cover up.
and who are u to judge? who died and made u right? This man is educated, he has a masters degree. what does naas have? wer u with them behind the scenes? rather keep quiet than make comments via your asss, I mean naaaasss
@@jabumalinga1943He has a Masters degree in what exactly and from which institution?😂 You do know that Julius also has a Degree despite being a corrupt and bigoted imbecile.
Cant listen to this BULL. The man was relying on Naas and Nick to carry him as usual. You got to learn to actually do the work you are paid for my man!!
and who are u to judge? who died and made u right? This man is educated, he has a masters degree. what does naas have? wer u with them behind the scenes? rather keep quiet than make comments via your asss, I mean naaaasss
@@thaboshai6239 and they, and all of you, are beneficiaries of a corrupt, inept kleptocracy. Seems like everything is falling apart nicely now, Corona is coming for you. And your leaders will be to corrupt and stupid to deal with it.
Ashwin uses a lot of big words but actually said nothing. The independent investigation returned the determination that there was NOTHING racist leading up to Ashwin storming off like an idiot. I'll say it again, NOTHING racist so please Ashwin enlighten us as to what it was that caused you to feel so terribly offended and most importantly please tell us what human rights we're violated because I don't think I'm alone in here.
Respect to a man who, not withstanding his mispronunciations, used opportunities granted to him by playing Rugby and evolved into this eloquent refined and well educated young father! And the only reason why he has naysayers is because he has broken the stereotype Colored gangster lytie with watery red eyes and a passion gap! At times like these, pretentious whites get called out for their complacency in their youth prior to 1992! The majority of whites especially in sports are fake as hell especially in their patronizing behaviors toward underprivileged players
Yes in your eyes all players of colour is lucky so was I, gad to beat u to get whai want so did Ashwyn we are from the same area same back ground treated the same by people of your kind yet we stayed respectful and kept on dreaming of getting Springbok colours to gain your respect yet u keep criticizing us.... don't let me go to the James small Chester Williams saga..... they were both respectful kids like Ashwyn so show him respect and u'll be respected by us......
You missed the point. Practically every current Bok player, of any colour, is there on merit. Willemse was not. Amongst our players of colour, Siya is the worlds best captain, Lukhanyo is the worlds best outside centre, Moodie, Damien Willemse and Arendse are future superstars, Cheslin is arguably the worlds best wing and had been for many years and Ox is the world's best impact prop. Importantly all these players are also fantastic individuals. Ashwin was and is a bigoted clown who is deeply involved with gansters of the most odious kind.
Ok, so in a nutshell...Ashwin is a sensitive man that believes the world should stop and watch him tantrum because he is not equal to more experienced and more gifted fellow employees. Sounds to me that his ego needed a stroke and so he chose this interview, that has been laced with restrictions and prearranged questions, to do that. This was not racism, the feelings you felt was your own inadequate skills and your inferior capabilities as an annalist manifesting in your realization of the fact that you suck at your job.
world peace I am very adequate in my field of expertise and year's of experience has put me in a position where I do not have to tolerate fools, the same as Naas and the same as Nick. People who are inadequate in their chosen profession, such as Ashwin, should rather respect the individuals that can provide an example of business ethics and professionalism, instead of behaving like a child, stamp his feet and try and get his friends into trouble by making up stories. By claiming that the whole incident was racially motivated reeks of an after the fact excuse to justify his unprofessional behavior.
@world peace: Let's face facts. Naas says some really obvious and dumb things, as a rugby pundit. I don't listen to his overly simplified analyses, and would prefer if he wasn't on the panel. However, Naas was a ridiculously talented goal kicker, when he was a player, and I understand why many people want to hear his opinion. Willemse was an overrated winger, who was CONSTANTLY injured, and only scored 4 tries for the Boks. This compared to Habana, who scored over 50. Willemse also didn't deserve to go to the 2007 world cup, and wasn't picked on form. One can thus understand why he only played 48 minutes in the entire 2007 World Cup. He is also a poor pundit, and adds little intelligent insight. Mallet is the only guy who makes sense, and he says it like it is. So in summation, I would say that Mallet is the only guy worth listening to. Lastly, being patronizing is not 'illegal', and neither is hurting people's feelings. And how does one even prove whether or not another person is being patronizing ? But still, this issue resulted in lengthy official inquiries and investigations. It was also headline news, for a few weeks. But why? Nobody died. What a waste of time. Willemse is just playing the victim, and doesn't mind potentially ruining Mallet and Botha's lives, just because he claims to have experienced 'micro-aggressions'. We teach children: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me". But snowflakes such as Ashwin Willemse, need protection from people's words, or protection from his misinterpretation of what they actually mean. Its really pathetic.
@world peace: I don't agree with the old "everything is perception" argument. That is an argument which you often hear someone use, when there is a mountain of facts discrediting their point of view. If Willemse has something to say, then I fully support his right to say it. However, it is he who is trying to destroy Botha & Mallet's reputation, because they may or may not have said, things which he didn't like. Why not let them have "their say" ? Also, the pundits don't "gossip". They're analyzing the game, and there is a demand for such a thing. Many viewers want to hear it. Every popular sport has panelists talking about up-and-coming match-ups, or otherwise simply critique the performance in the post-match analysis. Most of the time, I think that majority of these guys are trying to say what the viewers' want to hear. Mallet is the only guy who seems to give "nothing but the truth". And as I'm sure you already know, Mallet used to be the Bok coach....one of the best we've had. But he got sick and tired of the politics. As for Willemse, if "nobody has to live by another's standards", then why should Mallet and Botha be held to Willemse's standards, in terms of what he constitutes as being patronizing ?
You were wrong Ashwin, no matter how you try to use big words to spin the situation, you were wrong. Your pronunciation "Saaks" was a trait that made you unique and famous on SuperSport. It is ridiculous to claim people are racist and abused your human rights because of that. You could have handled the situation much better; you don't see Naas running of stage and accusing everyone of racism every time there is a comment about his English accent.
Aswin is a highly intelligent person and really impressed me. However, he never explained why he did such a cowardly act by using a public platform to voice his grievances? Totally unacceptable and disgusting behaviour. Very dissapointed in the interview.
Eusubuis Kaiser never does proper work before an interview I ve seen this on many occasions He fawns over people he has on his show He never checks their credibility He is another token operator
To be a professional presenter one needs to do a ton of preparation before one goes live on air because you will be exposed. Once exposed Ashwin panicked and released words that surprised even him. Once these words led the way he could not haul them back so he hand to finish dealing that hand to save himself embarrassment. It was all because he was ill prepared and very unprofessional but sadly instead of owning it, as with most black professionals in this country, he plays the race card. Weak move Ashwin.
Miss you Eusebius. Great conversation.
The man who cried wolf.
Eusebius was an incredible interviewer. RIP.
Good god that was underwelming. I'll never get that time back....
WOW his dad would have been so proud of him, we literally came from the same background different sports, bodybuilding saved my life...
Thank u for always being respectful Ashwyn u a tough soldier of God🙏🛐☦️🙏
Wow what an inspirational and respectable man.
This aged really well. On two counts.
hey ashwin, do you have the backbone to tell us where you got that R60 million?
WOW ASHWYN💪👍👌♥️
Wow indeed! Five years on and this person has still not provided a shred of evidence to back up his serious and malicious accusation of racism. All he has done is spout vague, pseudo-inteelectual drivel in a safe space.
how can we change the grey to green?
Eno and Noeku, those names are bring back memories Ashwyn
So encouraged by your fearlessness and brave spirit, Ashwin Willemse. It is right and just for us to pursue matters succintly so that we can bring to unity, instead of divide.
This nigga is truly smart.
Play your game and feeling in your own back yard and you will be happy.
What a man..
Who?
Rest in Peace Eu
Did we learn anything from this interview? Diddly-squat!
Is he part of the khoi san?
He does have those features hey?! He could possibly descend from them partly.
A lot of South Africans have Khoi san blood but nice to see those who still have their features and almost full blooded
TRUE
He is right, it is not a light matter, but a "DARK MATTER"......
Inferiority Complex is a term used to describe people who compensate for feelings of inferiority (feeling like they're less than other people, not as good as others, worthless, etc.) by acting ways that make them appear superior. They do this because controlling others may help them feel less personally inadequate.
Inferiority complex - Wikipedia
Ashwin you have so much going for you, please seek help at the right place. A radio station is not the place their plaster is not going to work.
If you have a gripe between u and a coworker...than sought it out off air....dont damage the company that feeds u..
supersport feeds? they are the scum of sa. monopoly
Tried hard not to say anything but years after cannot help but comment on how pathetic and naive these people are. Should not have been in same room as other pundits. Shame
Everytime I get confronted with anything that smells prejudice I ask myself this question; How do I think Madiba would've dealt with this one? and one thing I know he did with exception is not to feel pity for himself, he actually had a way to leverage in that situation and turn it into an educational programme for those in question....How I so wish that Eshwin did the same!
Madiba had 27years to redeem himself please give this yound man a break....
Glad he left
Please I have left the past behind don't let me turn my back on those I love if u are white yes I'm saying it you were never treated the way we were we had to depend on God to get us through this we gained the respect we have by giving respect....
I don't know how old u are or what Era u or country u from but u sound like u never lived in SA I hate looking back or even talking about what happened to me in the 60's I'm just glad I conquered that Era...
@4:00.. New Venture Creation in English is New Venture Creation.
This is the stage where I new I must leave this fake contrived video clip.
ta ta...
32 minutes into this and i am ready to fall asleep...get to the bloody point!!!
Well done to you brother! 32 minutes is impressive!
The point shat there was no point.
Totally scripted. These 2 guys have worked on this for a while. I could see how Ashwin was forgetting his lines. Not a single piece of evidence of prejudice by Nick & Naas. I now believe the initial mention that Ashwin was ill prepared for the show & created this fall out as a cover up.
and who are u to judge? who died and made u right? This man is educated, he has a masters degree. what does naas have? wer u with them behind the scenes? rather keep quiet than make comments via your asss, I mean naaaasss
@@jabumalinga1943He has a Masters degree in what exactly and from which institution?😂
You do know that Julius also has a Degree despite being a corrupt and bigoted imbecile.
😂
Cant listen to this BULL. The man was relying on Naas and Nick to carry him as usual. You got to learn to actually do the work you are paid for my man!!
and who are u to judge? who died and made u right? This man is educated, he has a masters degree. what does naas have? wer u with them behind the scenes? rather keep quiet than make comments via your asss, I mean naaaasss
Agree with you Tim Mackintosh. Two BEE beneficiaries having a BS conversation.
who are u to judge ?
Johan Weakley says a beneficiary of apartheid
@@thaboshai6239 and they, and all of you, are beneficiaries of a corrupt, inept kleptocracy. Seems like everything is falling apart nicely now, Corona is coming for you. And your leaders will be to corrupt and stupid to deal with it.
Think about when u were a beneficiary......
I remember this interview. I wonder why neither of them are on air anymore. Could it be that they were the most racist people in the room perhaps?
Ashwin uses a lot of big words but actually said nothing. The independent investigation returned the determination that there was NOTHING racist leading up to Ashwin storming off like an idiot. I'll say it again, NOTHING racist so please Ashwin enlighten us as to what it was that caused you to feel so terribly offended and most importantly please tell us what human rights we're violated because I don't think I'm alone in here.
I think Ash handled the like a gentleman, by getting even, there is no room or excuse for racism.
There is indeed no room for racism, and tht includes Willimse's racism.
Respect to a man who, not withstanding his mispronunciations, used opportunities granted to him by playing Rugby and evolved into this eloquent refined and well educated young father! And the only reason why he has naysayers is because he has broken the stereotype Colored gangster lytie with watery red eyes and a passion gap!
At times like these, pretentious whites get called out for their complacency in their youth prior to 1992! The majority of whites especially in sports are fake as hell especially in their patronizing behaviors toward underprivileged players
Your post is the perfect example of a fool crying racism whilst spewing racism himself. Congratulations!
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Shame...poor poor man. This interview reflects his IQ
yes, its very high
Jealous????
@@jabumalinga1943😂
You would have never been springbok today.just lucky.
u r a doos
Yes in your eyes all players of colour is lucky so was I, gad to beat u to get whai want so did Ashwyn we are from the same area same back ground treated the same by people of your kind yet we stayed respectful and kept on dreaming of getting Springbok colours to gain your respect yet u keep criticizing us.... don't let me go to the James small Chester Williams saga..... they were both respectful kids like Ashwyn so show him respect and u'll be respected by us......
Who are u to make that decision stupid?
You missed the point. Practically every current Bok player, of any colour, is there on merit. Willemse was not. Amongst our players of colour, Siya is the worlds best captain, Lukhanyo is the worlds best outside centre, Moodie, Damien Willemse and Arendse are future superstars, Cheslin is arguably the worlds best wing and had been for many years and Ox is the world's best impact prop. Importantly all these players are also fantastic individuals.
Ashwin was and is a bigoted clown who is deeply involved with gansters of the most odious kind.
What in God’s name is a “Star Sip”? 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾
this is south Africa u knob. English is not our 1st or 2nd language.. go back to Britain and ask them ter
@@jabumalinga1943 Christ! Why so rude? I genuinely thought he was drunk when he said " Star Sip"😂😂 maybe he was drinking " Moonshine"😂😂
stop thinking soo much, its not good for you
star ship - he meant.
What a senseless interview that point to nothing usefully!!
Ok, so in a nutshell...Ashwin is a sensitive man that believes the world should stop and watch him tantrum because he is not equal to more experienced and more gifted fellow employees. Sounds to me that his ego needed a stroke and so he chose this interview, that has been laced with restrictions and prearranged questions, to do that. This was not racism, the feelings you felt was your own inadequate skills and your inferior capabilities as an annalist manifesting in your realization of the fact that you suck at your job.
You a clown
world peace, arrogance is not racism, did you not know that!
world peace I am very adequate in my field of expertise and year's of experience has put me in a position where I do not have to tolerate fools, the same as Naas and the same as Nick. People who are inadequate in their chosen profession, such as Ashwin, should rather respect the individuals that can provide an example of business ethics and professionalism, instead of behaving like a child, stamp his feet and try and get his friends into trouble by making up stories. By claiming that the whole incident was racially motivated reeks of an after the fact excuse to justify his unprofessional behavior.
@world peace: Let's face facts. Naas says some really obvious and dumb things, as a rugby pundit. I don't listen to his overly simplified analyses, and would prefer if he wasn't on the panel. However, Naas was a ridiculously talented goal kicker, when he was a player, and I understand why many people want to hear his opinion. Willemse was an overrated winger, who was CONSTANTLY injured, and only scored 4 tries for the Boks. This compared to Habana, who scored over 50. Willemse also didn't deserve to go to the 2007 world cup, and wasn't picked on form. One can thus understand why he only played 48 minutes in the entire 2007 World Cup. He is also a poor pundit, and adds little intelligent insight. Mallet is the only guy who makes sense, and he says it like it is. So in summation, I would say that Mallet is the only guy worth listening to. Lastly, being patronizing is not 'illegal', and neither is hurting people's feelings. And how does one even prove whether or not another person is being patronizing ? But still, this issue resulted in lengthy official inquiries and investigations. It was also headline news, for a few weeks. But why? Nobody died. What a waste of time. Willemse is just playing the victim, and doesn't mind potentially ruining Mallet and Botha's lives, just because he claims to have experienced 'micro-aggressions'. We teach children: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me". But snowflakes such as Ashwin Willemse, need protection from people's words, or protection from his misinterpretation of what they actually mean. Its really pathetic.
@world peace: I don't agree with the old "everything is perception" argument. That is an argument which you often hear someone use, when there is a mountain of facts discrediting their point of view. If Willemse has something to say, then I fully support his right to say it. However, it is he who is trying to destroy Botha & Mallet's reputation, because they may or may not have said, things which he didn't like. Why not let them have "their say" ? Also, the pundits don't "gossip". They're analyzing the game, and there is a demand for such a thing. Many viewers want to hear it. Every popular sport has panelists talking about up-and-coming match-ups, or otherwise simply critique the performance in the post-match analysis. Most of the time, I think that majority of these guys are trying to say what the viewers' want to hear. Mallet is the only guy who seems to give "nothing but the truth". And as I'm sure you already know, Mallet used to be the Bok coach....one of the best we've had. But he got sick and tired of the politics. As for Willemse, if "nobody has to live by another's standards", then why should Mallet and Botha be held to Willemse's standards, in terms of what he constitutes as being patronizing ?
ashwin ur still a poes
You were wrong Ashwin, no matter how you try to use big words to spin the situation, you were wrong. Your pronunciation "Saaks" was a trait that made you unique and famous on SuperSport. It is ridiculous to claim people are racist and abused your human rights because of that. You could have handled the situation much better; you don't see Naas running of stage and accusing everyone of racism every time there is a comment about his English accent.
Aswin is a highly intelligent person and really impressed me.
However, he never explained why he did such a cowardly act by using a public platform to voice his grievances?
Totally unacceptable and disgusting behaviour.
Very dissapointed in the interview.
I support Ashwin,these Whitties took us for momparras for years
A clown crying racism whilst spewing racism. Typical.
Eusubuis Kaiser never does proper work before an interview I ve seen this on many occasions He fawns over people he has on his show He never checks their credibility He is another token operator
To be a professional presenter one needs to do a ton of preparation before one goes live on air because you will be exposed. Once exposed Ashwin panicked and released words that surprised even him. Once these words led the way he could not haul them back so he hand to finish dealing that hand to save himself embarrassment. It was all because he was ill prepared and very unprofessional but sadly instead of owning it, as with most black professionals in this country, he plays the race card. Weak move Ashwin.
Ashwin Who?