A Disturbing Online Music Mystery

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  • čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
  • In 2017, a series of conversations between an unknown music producer and a record label owner would lead to the upload of 6 disturbing albums, each including their own unique set of tragic poems, blocks of confusing Chinese texts, mysterious music videos and paragraphs that recite the label owners experience with this unknown music producer, a producer with a worrisome story that seemed to get all the more real as time went by.
    This is the mystery of b e g o t t e n.
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    This video was originally uploaded into 3 parts and sliced together here to make one complete video. To watch each part as they were individually uploaded, check out the following links:
    WATCH PART 1 HERE:
    • BEGOTTEN - A Disturbin...
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    • BEGOTTEN - A Disturbin...
    WATCH PART 3 HERE:
    • BEGOTTEN - A Disturbin...
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    ALL OF THE B E G O T T E N ALBUMS, AS WELL AS THE HALLOWEEN MIXTAPE, FOR YOU TO CHECK OUT:
    (life cycle) - 生命週期
    • b e g o t t e n 自杀 : (...
    (hushwave) - 治愈它
    • b e g o t t e n 自杀 : (...
    (phantom psalms) - 幻影诗篇
    • Video
    (happy anniversary) - 周年快乐
    • Video
    (forgive and forget) - 原谅和忘记
    • b e g o t t e n 自杀 : (...
    (new aura) - 新时代
    • b e g o t t e n 自杀 : (...
    b e g o t t e n : (Halloween Mixtape)
    • b e g o t t e n 自杀 : (...
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    GEOMETRIC LULLABY:
    geometriclullaby.bandcamp.com/
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  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington  Před 9 měsíci +11

    A Disturbing Music Mystery Returns: czcams.com/video/A6vB0rv0IN8/video.html

  • @dx9235
    @dx9235 Před 3 lety +3648

    as a native speaker I can confirm that the Chinese text is generated from Google translate

    • @sweetyft
      @sweetyft Před 3 lety +204

      I don’t speak a word of Chinese and I could feel it too. Thank you for confirming!

    • @ethangreen5416
      @ethangreen5416 Před 3 lety +31

      @Pope Francis Who asked?

    • @blzrL
      @blzrL Před 3 lety +14

      @Pope Francis ???

    • @roach7404
      @roach7404 Před 3 lety +51

      あっっっっhÑくださいかな下さい下さいかな下さい。かな→下さいくださいう。haha right
      I don't know what I put just tipped random shjt

    • @oko3717
      @oko3717 Před 3 lety +10

      @@roach7404 k

  • @kidkefka
    @kidkefka Před 3 lety +3064

    This feels more like a marketing strategy then a real thing that happened tbh

    • @gummy1188
      @gummy1188 Před 3 lety +481

      That's because it is, Begotten is Dennis using morbid imagery and shock factor to market his little vanity project. it makes sense seeing as Dennis has a background in black metal--he even used the suicide note of Dead, former vocalist of Mayhem. Talk about not covering his fucking tracks

    • @jeffersonmcgee9560
      @jeffersonmcgee9560 Před 3 lety +93

      Not gonna lie, that was also on my mind. Maybe it's just advertising on Dennis' part. But maybe that doubt is what makes this special

    • @vincysoft
      @vincysoft Před 3 lety +76

      Even if, regardless of music they created a very interesting story

    • @francescochissale
      @francescochissale Před 3 lety +21

      @@gummy1188 You mean Dennis from Ghost Bath?

    • @gummy1188
      @gummy1188 Před 3 lety +14

      @@francescochissale The very same

  • @arturplonka8027
    @arturplonka8027 Před 3 lety +1158

    Fun fact you cant mistake blood with red ink coz when it dries it becomes brown

  • @zbubby1202
    @zbubby1202 Před 3 lety +1491

    It took me only about 30 seconds to find that Geometric Lullaby is owned by Dennis Mikula who has a degree in psych from Minot State University who played with the moderately successful band Ghost Bath and posts pictures of graveyards and stuff. It really is a mystery who Begotten was...

    • @francescochissale
      @francescochissale Před 3 lety +157

      That's my thought too. The guy used the same strategy with Ghost Bath as well, by saying the band was chinese.

    • @vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450
      @vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 Před 3 lety +67

      Well, anonymous artists are a thing: it wouldn't be odd if it's just a person who wants to make music but also to keep their normal life, if they are suffering from mental problems is really less of a mystery and more of a thing-we're-not-certain-off-and-should-really-just-respect-their-boundaries kind-of deal.

    • @francescochissale
      @francescochissale Před 3 lety +53

      @@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 Nah, I highly suppose Dennis is just a hoax at this point. When he started Ghost Bath at the time he did it as a joke, basically, rather than just a "I have mental issues which have to be released somehow. But then if he has issues under that spectrum it is not my business, of course. The thing is: you have Ghost Bath, you have Geometric Lullaby, huge record deals behind you (GB is under Nuclear Blast), and then you want to use the same trick you've used with your main project and expect people to fall for it?
      This video sets this clear when you look at it in its entirety. So many things are off in this whole situation.
      He might have issues, but this looks more like a play rather than just a "I have to release some band thoughts somehow". I don't get the whole "Talking to myself" kind of vibe with the whole concept built to be someone else. You want to put material out?
      Cool! Do it, nameless, but do it. Don't build shit up like that if you're trying to get sales and that's it.
      Hope this whole comment makes sense lol

    • @swimsvg1855
      @swimsvg1855 Před 3 lety +35

      @@francescochissale idk, i feel like story telling is story telling. Many people do crazy album rollouts where they try to create a different universe to get people more invested in the music, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But I wouldn't scrutinize anyone for trying.

    • @noahdiemler5047
      @noahdiemler5047 Před 3 lety +48

      Begotten is just denis creating a fake facade to seem interesting. Just look at his Blackgaze band, Ghost Bath, he originally claimed to be from China and went under and chinse moniker, and then the entire black metal community figured it out. He's known for using poor google translate to Chinese text to create some illusion and mysticism. I'm so glad this video was in my recommendations lol. Y'all should know begotten isn't some super cryptic and mysterious artist. It's just another one of Denis's personas he's using to exploit your guy's interest. I guess he couldn't do it in black metal so he's doing it to the vaporwave scene lol.

  • @chunkblaster
    @chunkblaster Před 3 lety +1955

    This is fascinating but the part about the black car and the graveyard was a bit too much. It's absolutely bullshit and unfortunately that makes the entire story much less believable

    • @xyphoxdemon
      @xyphoxdemon Před 3 lety +274

      yeah this is absolutely fake i can't believe pad would actually dedicate 50 minutes to this and not display any level of scrutiny to these events and take it all at face value, i feel like this deserves to have the sponsored video card at the bottom

    • @underwaterlady
      @underwaterlady Před 3 lety +67

      i would have believed it more if he just said a UFO landed at that point and even that would have been a stretch :P

    • @sweetyft
      @sweetyft Před 3 lety +85

      And the final reply from Denis was telegraphed from a mile away. It’s like he took all of his ARG queues from any shitposter on Reddit...
      Not a bad artist to cover, I guess, but I wish more of the video was dedicated to the music and less to the urban legend.

    • @thesun564
      @thesun564 Před 3 lety +39

      @@xyphoxdemon I think he’s just passing around the myth like a creepy pasta. I think it’s neat

    • @feIon
      @feIon Před 3 lety +15

      agreed lmao i lost interest in the story at that part

  • @warboats
    @warboats Před 3 lety +459

    The “‘weird, masked figure” in the insomnia vid is Kazuo Ono, a practitioner of a type of Japanese experimental dance theatre called ‘butoh’, for anyone interested.

    • @superg33k12
      @superg33k12 Před 3 lety +19

      i just watched a documentary about Butoh! very dope

    • @ConvincingPeople
      @ConvincingPeople Před 3 lety +13

      Merzbow was actually involved with butoh troupes early on in his career. Fascinating art form.

    • @racheltheehermit7314
      @racheltheehermit7314 Před 3 lety +9

      That’s really cool. Thanks for sharing the information. I’ve heard of that dance style. It’s . . . intense. . . to put it mildly.

    • @sweetyft
      @sweetyft Před 3 lety +4

      Thank you

    • @chrisfonte4987
      @chrisfonte4987 Před 3 lety +2

      I actually saw Kazuo Ono preform at my school a few years ago. I brought a girl with me... best date ever

  • @dakotathacker3821
    @dakotathacker3821 Před 3 lety +249

    looks like the real Begotten are the Dennis's we made along the way

  • @basiI
    @basiI Před 3 lety +139

    15:53 “the one considered to be the darkest of them all”
    *mr. clean ad starts playing*

  • @mothmanghost983
    @mothmanghost983 Před 3 lety +116

    Ngl, if Dennis just left it at the mysterious email and didn't include any of the graveyard stuff, the story would have been fine. The music seems good on its own. It doesn't need the narrative at all.

  • @Mokujo
    @Mokujo Před 3 lety +439

    tldw: Some guy made up a spooky creepypasta story with stupid tropes like mental hospitals and blacks cars and shit to market his vaporwave album. No mystery, not even a fulfilling story.

    • @thezerowulf507
      @thezerowulf507 Před 3 lety +31

      I honestly feel like I wasted time, no offense to pad, but this story was hollow

    • @raveng8217
      @raveng8217 Před 3 lety +22

      I thought something was fishy with this story about 15 minutes in. Glad I scrolled down to the comments before watching any further. It doesn't make any sense that an artist would send their work to a label, and then the label just releases the artist's work without ANY further communication, no contracts or anything! I'm no expert, but I'm pretty certain that that is not how record labels work lol

    • @steviebea
      @steviebea Před 2 lety +8

      hokey poems too, just trying to cram as much faux darkness in as possible. good music but tryhard marketing tbh

    • @magdalenagreta274
      @magdalenagreta274 Před 2 lety +1

      maybe the story needs more importance

    • @sabrinatscha2554
      @sabrinatscha2554 Před 2 lety +1

      Dangit. I knew it. I should have learned by now to watch the video before reading comments at least I would have been able to enjoy the first half or so

  • @windmill7708
    @windmill7708 Před 3 lety +1089

    this is gonna get in everybody's recommended in 10 years

    • @gummy1188
      @gummy1188 Před 3 lety +16

      Not even that long probably

    • @yofriz
      @yofriz Před 3 lety +9

      2 days later and here I am from my recommended lol

    • @pissqueendanniella4688
      @pissqueendanniella4688 Před 3 lety +5

      I fuckin hope youtube is still around in 10 years

    • @icuddlesi112
      @icuddlesi112 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s already in ma recommended :)
      oops I’m subscribed duh

    • @potatokitty
      @potatokitty Před 3 lety

      Omen here 👆👆

  • @Nebzz
    @Nebzz Před 3 lety +357

    This story is so based on reality. Record labels always work like this, Secret hand written letters are way better than contracts and payment. Start pressing albums, we got another anonymous letter!

    • @Feversome
      @Feversome Před 3 lety +45

      And lets give them our address too, because nothing bad can come out of that.

    • @jenjes5802
      @jenjes5802 Před 3 lety +12

      @@Feversome Smaller labels do that. You send the address, they send the physical copies, you store the physical copies in your house, and you ship the albums to buyers.

    • @jsc315
      @jsc315 Před 3 lety

      No this is what a bored edgy teen does. I wrote and did dumb nonsense like this week the time

    • @hsk2909
      @hsk2909 Před rokem

      I came to the same conclusion.

    • @Cugelclever
      @Cugelclever Před 8 měsíci

      @@jenjes5802 Sure, all that without even verifying the music was written by the person who claims to have written it. Seems a bit too easy. Let's print up the expensive special editions!!!!

  • @xman5025
    @xman5025 Před 3 lety +464

    An interesting point I just thought about: Dennis is a member of the black metal band Ghost Bath, which originally claimed to be a band based in China. Which turned out to be untrue as they were in fact an american band. This and the fact that one of the emails from begotten contained excerpts from Dead's (vocalist of black metal band, Mayhem) suicide note, make me believe that this whole persona may be Dennis himself. I could be completely wrong, I'm just speculating, but nonetheless, this is quite an interesting and mysterious story with some fantastic music! Great work Pad!

    • @Shiva-mh6td
      @Shiva-mh6td Před 3 lety +27

      Yea I think it's obvious by now. Nonetheless an interesting story and really good Music. I applaud u Dennis if u ever read this.

    • @ConvincingPeople
      @ConvincingPeople Před 3 lety +8

      I made the exact same connection when I realised who Dennis was and what band he was touring with. The guy loves the theatre and mystery that black metal and vaporwave share, and even if the music is, say, made by a friend of his or an artistic collaborator, the whole story feels like something he'd be in on for precisely that reason, especially the really outlandish elements.

    • @ieatmemeswithoutmilk1337
      @ieatmemeswithoutmilk1337 Před 3 lety +1

      Does anybody know what the disturbing email actually said? I found it but it was in Chinese and I'm curious to see what it is

    • @noahdiemler5047
      @noahdiemler5047 Před 3 lety +7

      It's 100% him lmao

    • @Prosperno
      @Prosperno Před 3 lety +7

      @@ieatmemeswithoutmilk1337 The words were almost the same as Dead's suicide letter (Per Yngve Ohlin from Mayhem). When I ran it through Google translate I recognised the wording almost immediately.

  • @birchwwolf
    @birchwwolf Před 3 lety +463

    Dennis dropped a ball here. The invitation to the cemetery really looks like the start of an ARG, and the game was cut short because Dennis' friend couldn't find the clue in the cemetery or on the black car. The mental institution portion of the ARG was never followed up on before or after the hurricane, either. So the ARG ended prematurely, fine, but to not ask begotten "what was the deal with the invitation" at all is perplexing. Surely begotten could have revealed what that was about once all six albums were released ?
    EDIT: SPOILER ALERT HERE.
    Apparently Discogs lists Dennis himself as begotten. Welp! so much for all of that.

    • @foxyfoxington2651
      @foxyfoxington2651 Před 3 lety +30

      It gives off a mid/late 2000s fan-made ARG vibes. Very Wyoming Incident. Where you'd have an interesting set up/premise that would never go anywhere because the creators either didn't know themselves or simply lost interest.

    • @blue-slushy
      @blue-slushy Před 3 lety +10

      Discogs can be edited by anyone, that proves nothing

    • @JASSIEL617
      @JASSIEL617 Před 3 lety +6

      It says it’s him because Dennis is the one who released the albums 😭

    • @birchwwolf
      @birchwwolf Před 3 lety +2

      @@JASSIEL617 That doesn't make sense. It's like you're arguing that Richard Branson made every Daft Punk album just cause they were signed to his record label Virgin. Branson had zilch to do with DP. Dennis actually is begotten in this case.

    • @noahdiemler5047
      @noahdiemler5047 Před 3 lety +16

      @@JASSIEL617 Begotten is just denis creating a fake facade to seem interesting. Just look at his Blackgaze band, Ghost Bath, he originally claimed to be from China and went under and chinse moniker, and then the entire black metal community figured it out. He's known for using poor google translate to Chinese text to create some illusion and mysticism. I'm so glad this video was in my recommendations lol. Y'all should know begotten isn't some super cryptic and mysterious artist. It's just another one of Denis's personas he's using to exploit your guy's interest. I guess he couldn't do it in black metal so he's doing it to the vaporwave scene lol.

  • @feIon
    @feIon Před 3 lety +53

    that graveyard bit was probably the lamest thing ever tbh

  • @bluethelucario6194
    @bluethelucario6194 Před 3 lety +91

    You know, the story may be a marketing thing, but it’s still a pretty interesting story, and I love the music anyways. A good creepypasta to go with a good album if nothing else.

    • @JK-gm6kk
      @JK-gm6kk Před 3 lety +12

      I think it would work much better if it was some unknown person behind a reddit handle or something, and not someone representing their own label, and is previously established within another obscure genre of music.

  • @chezmix64
    @chezmix64 Před 3 lety +49

    I feel like Dennis has to be begotten entirely because whenever he talks about the possibilities of what’s going on he never mentions the idea of it just being performance art to add to the records and there’s no way he wouldn’t have considered that

    • @jackpijjin4088
      @jackpijjin4088 Před 2 lety +2

      Oh, no, no! It can *never* be that simple! It always MUST be "ooky kooky spooky dooky"! Pfft, making art with dark imagery? Impossible.

  • @vantablack8468
    @vantablack8468 Před 3 lety +390

    This has to be one of the more disappointing music stories I’ve learnt about.
    Vaporware pretty much has never been about the artist to begin with. So why make a whole story so centralized on who this mystery artist is, only to drill in a message almost everyone knows already? I mean maybe that message will be needed in the future.
    Idk, I think the whole narrative could’ve been done better. I don’t know how tho. The whole graveyard scene was unnecessary and just dumbly thought out, the bloody fingerprint could’ve been used better as a plot device (P.s Dennis, blood on most paper actually turns brown after drying out. I learnt this the hard way) With the way it is right now, it feels like Dennis was giving himself a secretive ego stroke all this time. Which I KNOW that was NOT intended at ALL. That’s not the point of the story.
    It’s kinda ironic, I enjoy begotten way more when I ignore the whole narrative that’s connected with it.
    For anyone who wants to do a narrative/ARG like this, GET INTO CREATIVE WRITING. It doesn’t have to be anything bombastic, it’s just to give you the gists of creating something like this. Also get an outside party(like a writer/forum/friend) to proofread your idea. That way you can get a general feel of how it might be perceived by the audience and if there are any details that need polishing.

    • @Rumham666
      @Rumham666 Před 3 lety +30

      Ya the whole story is ruined when i imagine that douchey hipster Dennis thinking he's sooo cooool and aesthetic for this arg

    • @neolulubeats
      @neolulubeats Před 3 lety +6

      i share this exact viewpoint ! the begotten project is amazing music but the story is eh

    • @isweartofuckinggod
      @isweartofuckinggod Před 3 lety +16

      I think if he had been more conscious of unfiction tropes, and had taken a few more creative liberties with the story instead of keeping it as "realistic" as possible, it would have been a lot more successful. At the moment it feels half-assed and generic from an unfiction perspective and too much for a regular mysterious backstory. At that point the only impression left to give is that of an awkward ad campaign.
      Anyway, the guy should have at the very least binge watched Night Mind before getting started.

    • @vantablack8468
      @vantablack8468 Před 3 lety +12

      @@isweartofuckinggod I agree with you! NightMind has some really good vids on how to do unfiction too!
      Also another comment here mentioned how unprofessional his conversations with begotten were, which really leaves a bad taste in your mouth when you realize he’s using someone potentially mentally unwell for monetary gain. Which is baffling, he should already have knowledge for that as a record label owner. Also it’s such a wasted opportunity, you don’t get a lot of stories from that perspective.
      I would have loved if this was actually like a metaphorical narrative(like about his own struggles with mental health and how it affects being a creator, expecially when you have a higher ranking position in the industry) framed like the interactions between a label owner and an artist

    • @sweetyft
      @sweetyft Před 3 lety +6

      @@vantablack8468 That could have been really interesting

  • @jesuchristo523
    @jesuchristo523 Před 3 lety +313

    As someone who's struggled with depression for many years now, this just annoys me. This romanticised depiction of depression just ain't it bub.

    • @bagman2260
      @bagman2260 Před 2 lety +8

      agreed

    • @kevinericsnell4092
      @kevinericsnell4092 Před 2 lety +25

      The poetry is really shallow

    • @bagman2260
      @bagman2260 Před 2 lety +37

      @@kevinericsnell4092 very shallow. very simplistic romanticized view of depression youd see in like a pop song or something.

    • @sabrinatscha2554
      @sabrinatscha2554 Před 2 lety +15

      I don’t feel sad. I would love to feel sad... I feel ✨NOTHING✨ 😃

    • @oliviaforgan247
      @oliviaforgan247 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sabrinatscha2554 shhhhhh man

  • @vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450
    @vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 Před 3 lety +164

    I'm gonna be honest:Tthe story is not good, but I like the energy the music has, it's very melancholic, like a busy mind in a lonely tiny apartment in the middle of a damp urban city where the sun never rises or sets, if I wasn't sick of that feeling I'd be into it. but kudos to whoever wrote this, they did their best and deserve some grapes.

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington  Před 3 lety +253

    Any other music mysteries, stories, or urban legends you'd want to see me explore for a future video? Comment and let me know! 🌠

  • @cakecrumb095
    @cakecrumb095 Před 3 lety +22

    At first this sounded like a real internet mystery. By the end it sounds so unrealistic.

  • @soyboydivision
    @soyboydivision Před 3 lety +175

    37:26
    I took the chinese text and ran it through Google translate, and I recognised the translation immediately. It's the first few sentences of Dead's suicide note, the lead vocalist and lyric writer of the black metal band Mayhem.
    I also havent finished the video yet, or did any digging to see if anyone else figured this out, so forgive me if this was already known, but I just wanted to point it out.
    Still, creepy as fuck.

    • @innadesertDOTjpg
      @innadesertDOTjpg Před 3 lety +21

      it's word for word dead's note. i don't think pad mentioned it at all

    • @zanityden4692
      @zanityden4692 Před 3 lety +4

      True Norwegian black metal 😩😩😩✋✋

    • @soyboydivision
      @soyboydivision Před 3 lety +4

      @@innadesertDOTjpg I'm kinda surprised honestly, but maybe they just don't know black metal that much

    • @shmeeble318
      @shmeeble318 Před 3 lety +1

      yeah they did but hey u got spirit

    • @SpectreSoftware
      @SpectreSoftware Před 2 lety

      Rest in peace Dead

  • @elilg6489
    @elilg6489 Před 3 lety +81

    from what I could gather, this seems like one of three options. This could all be real as Dennis has presented, an elaborate arg by b e g o t t e n (meaning that the artist is real but doesn't ensure that this is one person with one alias), or this was a masterful advertising campaign by Dennis to boost his label's popularity. I think that option three is the most probable because of the timing of when the first release came out around when the label first popped up.

    • @wiltedangel
      @wiltedangel Před 3 lety +10

      dennis accidentally showed some of the begotten project files on stream, thus confirming that begotten was a publicity stunt

  • @aiuh9592
    @aiuh9592 Před 3 lety +316

    here is a tip: when paraphrasing, make it obvious that you are not reciting your own original words. you paraphrase too frequently with too many small details that confuse the listener on who the original creator is. to avoid plagiarism, simply use direct quotes when the small details are important (you already do this several times in this video) or just paraphrase much more loosely from the original words of the artist.

    • @DMTInfinity
      @DMTInfinity Před 3 lety +13

      Your tip is garbage.
      This video was perfect just the way it is.
      Stop acting like your subjectivity is objective throughout all minds and learn when to shut the Hell up.

    • @smashmouthegg570
      @smashmouthegg570 Před 3 lety +2

      @@DMTInfinity yo facts

    • @SlimeGod74
      @SlimeGod74 Před 3 lety +30

      @@DMTInfinity my man, chill lol. It was just constructive criticism. Take your meds or something and relax lol

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 Před 3 lety +30

      @@DMTInfinity That comment had nothing to do with anything subjective, he *is* paraphrasing too much. It's a perfectly valid criticism. Your attitude allows for no actual improvement.

    • @shookle9977
      @shookle9977 Před 3 lety +1

      @@DMTInfinity Capital H

  • @astrobstrd
    @astrobstrd Před 2 lety +14

    I can't decide which is worse: this being an ad for a series of years-too-late-to-the-punch vapor trap tracks bundled with Google Translate text and high school sophomore tier sad boy poetry, or someone really buying into all of this being 100% genuine. The moment you look at even one of the separate pieces of this story from an angle it falls apart *immediately.* If the vaporwave scene wanted to convince everyone they're not leveraging depression and mental illness to create this weird, borderline harmful personality of Guys Who Are Just Too Fucked Up To Be Understood, they're gonna have to try harder than this

  • @Calpsotoma
    @Calpsotoma Před 3 lety +16

    If this person had the music, music videos, album inserts, and everything finished already, why would they seek a label? It seems like the label would have little to nothing to offer aside from perhaps publicity, but that can be generated without a label.
    I don't doubt the distinct possibility this is just Dennis doing a setup to make his own music seem more interesting.

  • @weaselfart5505
    @weaselfart5505 Před 3 lety +64

    0:35 the second album (skeleton with gun) is a screenshot from JonTron's clocktower video lmao

    • @dr.machinegun5782
      @dr.machinegun5782 Před 3 lety +11

      IVE GOT A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU

    • @richfiles
      @richfiles Před 3 lety +2

      Yup, literally 5 seconds in. It's literally a JonTron screenshot that's been tinted blue! XD
      czcams.com/video/SjVKZ0ltJEI/video.html

    • @elcocorapido
      @elcocorapido Před 3 lety +4

      BAHAHAHHHA

    • @StarBronze21
      @StarBronze21 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol I was actually vibing with this creepypasta story, saw this, and now this is all one big joke

    • @Utonian21
      @Utonian21 Před 2 lety

      No fucking way, how did I not notice that? LMAO

  • @thecosmic8248
    @thecosmic8248 Před 3 lety +22

    I’m only halfway through but the shift between horror novel and music review is jarring in a way that really fits the subject material. Really love this so far.

  • @luman1109
    @luman1109 Před 3 lety +79

    Plot twitst: It was Dennis all along

  • @zeroblue720
    @zeroblue720 Před 2 lety +55

    Yeah, this is definitely baby's first dark mystery. Even if I didn't gleam the comments prior to watching, I could tell this was fake. The graveyard scene is not only dumb and immersion-breaking, but a plothole, too. Dennis' "friend" was put into potential harm and memory wiped, and Dennis' response is to never bring up his friend again, nor seek begotten's true identity to put the law on him... he just says it's about the music and thanks him for it. Right. There's other plotholes, but that's the big one.
    Aside from that, there's just a lot of tropes Dennis does & in general that aren't based in any sensible logic, and mental illness/suicide is a common go-to for a dark topic. The fact that the subject of mental illness/suicide is used for an egotistical publicity stunt is a level of offensive that deserves its own conversation, but I won't get into that. All I'm gonna say is that it's really poor taste and self-serving, made the worse by how begotten is Dennis in a fake persona. Someone with a psych major should know better, and I say that as someone mid-Bachelor's for psych right now.
    The music is neat, but if you ask me, knowing the narrative Dennis made for it just sours the pleasure of the experience heavily. These pieces would've avoided that altogether if there was a far more vague story instead to keep it mysterious, or removing it altogether. As it stands, it's overexplained and buckles under its own weight.

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan Před rokem

      It’s like you think this story was ever supposed to be anything but marketing or something. It’s not supposed to be a pulitzer prize-winning journalistic exposé, it’s a creepypasta. Don’t take it too seriously.

    • @zeroblue720
      @zeroblue720 Před rokem +1

      @@SnailHatan It's the poor use of the topic of suicide that made me write all that up, since it really rubs me the wrong way. I would've given it the slack you're advising if it weren't for that.

  • @evilpumpkinii7916
    @evilpumpkinii7916 Před 3 lety +61

    I watched this a couple days ago then was listening to a begotten album and reading the comments. One of the comments was talking about how after doing research he found out it was just Dennis the whole time and he made up the story. Now that I think about it it makes sense. I watched this entire video thinking it was really true, and even went a couple days thinking it too. It kinda make me angry that you spend all this time making and editing an hour long video for a made up story.

    • @micahwright5901
      @micahwright5901 Před 3 lety +17

      It’s got 26K views and we all enjoyed it, so it’s not really a loss.

    • @brookeschell4634
      @brookeschell4634 Před rokem +2

      Think of it as extended lore inside one of your favorite universes

  • @BoringRanger
    @BoringRanger Před 3 lety +26

    Well I was trying to come out of depression but now I have to listen through six albums.

  • @noahdiemler5047
    @noahdiemler5047 Před 3 lety +67

    Begotten is just denis creating a fake facade to seem interesting. Just look at his Blackgaze band, Ghost Bath, he originally claimed to be from China and went under and chinse moniker, and then the entire black metal community figured it out. He's known for using poor google translate to Chinese text to create some illusion and mysticism. I'm so glad this video was in my recommendations lol. Y'all should know begotten isn't some super cryptic and mysterious artist. It's just another one of Denis's personas he's using to exploit your guy's interest. I guess he couldn't do it in black metal so he's doing it to the vaporwave scene lol.

    • @TAMPLAYS
      @TAMPLAYS Před 2 lety +3

      Off-topic and nothing to do with the video or your accurate comment but that's not how you use the word "Mysticism" lol.

    • @noahdiemler5047
      @noahdiemler5047 Před 2 lety

      @@TAMPLAYS I’m dumb, I’m sorry lol

    • @TAMPLAYS
      @TAMPLAYS Před 2 lety +3

      @@noahdiemler5047 lol meant nothing by it, it must be so random getting a reply about a half year old comment from such a random corner of the internet. Have a good day wherever you are!

    • @noahdiemler5047
      @noahdiemler5047 Před 2 lety

      @@TAMPLAYS thank you, you too!

    • @ChadKing69
      @ChadKing69 Před 2 lety +2

      Still better than that godawful hipster shoegaze wannabe band called "deafheaven"

  • @RusstleDeeJimmie
    @RusstleDeeJimmie Před 3 lety +72

    So Dennis used the same marketing ploy he used with his old band Ghost Bath (claimed they were a black metal band from China)?

    • @21Cayque12
      @21Cayque12 Před 3 lety +1

      Oh he's from Ghost Bath? That makes way more sense now

    • @ChadKing69
      @ChadKing69 Před 2 lety

      what's your next theory? the guy from Deafheaven is telepath? quit using peabrain reddit logic lmao

  • @isophexmusicmasks2824
    @isophexmusicmasks2824 Před 3 lety +16

    6 albums of slowed down samples with reverb, neat

    • @mic_drop6256
      @mic_drop6256 Před 2 lety +3

      That’s basically what most Lo-FI, vapor wave, and relaxing/sad/creepy aesthetic music is. If anybody has any actually unique lo-FI/vaporwave aesthetic music then let me know.

    • @jackpijjin4088
      @jackpijjin4088 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mic_drop6256 Esprit is pretty good, so is Wind96.

  • @unnamedindividual8835
    @unnamedindividual8835 Před 3 lety +18

    I'm surprised nobody mentioned this: (from begotten's discogs profile)
    b e g o t t e n 自杀
    Real Name:
    Dennis Mikula
    Sites:
    Bandcamp
    Aliases:
    Dissociate: 解離, Electric Specter 電妖怪, Nameless (49), runescape斯凱利, 疑心暗鬼
    It literally says that he's Dennis in his profile

    • @oo_rf_oo8824
      @oo_rf_oo8824 Před 2 lety +1

      Man you saved me. The lore terrified me, at the pinnacle of my anxiety where sleep paralysis was about to kick in, I saw this comment and it plucked up my courage to finish the whole video. Thanks

    • @unnamedindividual8835
      @unnamedindividual8835 Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@oo_rf_oo8824 No problem man lol! Glad I could help you out! I guess Dennis needs to get better at hiding his identity online lmao

    • @timefragment5387
      @timefragment5387 Před rokem

      @@unnamedindividual8835 I know many are saying that Dennis is a terrible man to make up this story as a publicity stunt, I believe it has some problems ( especially with the translated Chinese ) but I think overall it is a cool project nevertheless

    • @unnamedindividual8835
      @unnamedindividual8835 Před rokem

      @@timefragment5387 Yeah exactly I don't even care that this is lied about because it's really just all about creating entertainment in the end. The whole begotten project may have been hoaxed but the music was great

  • @fengy5629
    @fengy5629 Před 3 lety +6

    so what i'm hearing is that this is an overdone, overly dramatic story meant to market some albums that, from tons of comments here, seem to have multiple songs that are just other songs slowed and reverbed. all created by the owner of the record label. and this video functions as an attempt to advertise it further. it's so utterly lame i dont even know what to say lol

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk Před 3 lety

      That sums up my feelings. Thanks.

  • @JASSIEL617
    @JASSIEL617 Před 3 lety +18

    For anyone wondering the email was in Chinese so I translated it. I’m not sure if it is entirely correct but the translated email reads: “Excuse my blood, but I have cut my wrist and neck. Anyway, no one will understand why. To give some explanations, I'm not human. It's just a dream, and I'll wake up soon. It's too cold, the blood has been coagulating, and my new knife is too blunt. If I don't succeed in killing the knife, I'll blow all the dung off my skull." This was very disturbing to read.

    • @Xenphobe777
      @Xenphobe777 Před 3 lety +14

      It’s rather similar to the suicide note by Pelle Ohlin of the band Mayhem. “Excuse the blood, but I have slit my wrists and neck. It was the intention that I would die in the woods so that it would take a few days before I was possibly found. I belong in the woods and have always done so. No one will understand the reason for this anyway. To give some semblance of an explanation I'm not a human, this is just a dream and soon I will wake. It was too cold and the blood kept clotting, plus my new knife is too dull. If I don't succeed dying to the knife I will blow all the shit out of my skull. Yet I do not know. I left all my lyrics by "Let the good times roll"-plus the rest of the money. Whoever finds it gets the fucking thing. As a last salutation may I present "Life Eternal". Do whatever you want with the fucking thing. / Pelle. I didn't come up with this now, but seventeen years ago.”

    • @liltito1519
      @liltito1519 Před 3 lety +9

      lmao this is definitely a copy of Dead's suicide letter it's not even trying to be original

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington  Před 2 lety +107

    A Deep Dive into The Caretaker's Everywhere at the End of Time:
    czcams.com/video/cB3LQtqahvg/video.html

    • @AmberAmber
      @AmberAmber Před 2 lety +1

      @Pad Chennington
      Another awesome thing!! TY for covering the music I'm either most obsessed with • or apparently WILL become obsessed with! ❤💗❤❤

    • @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
      @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Před 2 lety +4

      Far too many words and fluff, not enough of the music.
      {:-:-:}

    • @aerisdragon8952
      @aerisdragon8952 Před 2 lety +1

      where is the link to the morbid letter? I cant seem to find it in the description

  • @lytroop3664
    @lytroop3664 Před 3 lety +7

    IMPORTANT: The song (unknown) on Phantom Psalms album is LITERALLY Genesis by Grimes, just slowed down and processed through filters. Completely stolen song. I wager others have picked up on this (and other songs being just stolen and reshaped through filters)...

  • @gummy1188
    @gummy1188 Před 3 lety +34

    I liked all the begotten albums, but the story is literal bullshit and pretty disappointing. Dennis is begotten, let's all just move on to something more interesting

  • @Albeit_Jordan
    @Albeit_Jordan Před 2 lety +9

    Honestly it all just kind of seems like something the mind of a typical 19 year old male redditor who loves horror and anime would conjure.
    Probably does have depression but like in the way almost everyone his age does.

  • @flyFYI555
    @flyFYI555 Před 3 lety +12

    Your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels on youtube, keep the amazing work my friend looking forward to the next upload

  • @DaviMrS
    @DaviMrS Před 3 lety +17

    tbh, those Chinese text that's not a reference in the album just feel like google translate to me, the gramma in there are really odd.

  • @ShakingHandsMedia
    @ShakingHandsMedia Před 3 lety +49

    It was definitely dennis. Which doesn't make it any less interesting and wonderful

  • @mikeoxsor6183
    @mikeoxsor6183 Před 3 lety +28

    this is a very edgy melodramatic artist

    • @Rumham666
      @Rumham666 Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah fuck this edgelord and fuck this channel for giving us a 50 minute commercial for his cringe arg

    • @mikeoxsor6183
      @mikeoxsor6183 Před 3 lety +15

      @@Rumham666 settle down

    • @c_Lutch
      @c_Lutch Před 2 lety +1

      @@Rumham666 Who hurt you lmao

    • @aatelophobia146
      @aatelophobia146 Před 2 lety

      @@Rumham666 okay give your mom her phone back

  • @Wind-nj5xz
    @Wind-nj5xz Před 2 lety +5

    28:34 Grindcore fans: "Wow, this is such a long song!"

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington  Před 3 lety +97

    *Japan's Most Dangerous Band:*
    czcams.com/video/2YPkRW6ggs8/video.html

  • @ArcticLightsFlamingPhoenix
    @ArcticLightsFlamingPhoenix Před 11 měsíci +2

    This is an incredible music documentary. Somehow Pad Chennington is able to match the quality of the top video essayists even though he doesen't usually make this type of content. Great Job!

  • @D_Vice88
    @D_Vice88 Před 2 lety +4

    ..is this an elaborate creepypasta to sell/hype niche music?

  • @new_blue0964
    @new_blue0964 Před 3 lety +5

    the morbid email that you left out of the video is the suicide note of Dead from Mayhem, the lines are directly taken except leaving a few lines about dying in a forest in between and the latter half of the suicide note where Dead discusses his songs and whatnot

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf512 Před 3 lety +32

    begotten is an edgelord. if i wasn't lazy (and had talent) i'd totally do something similar, edgy an intentionally mysterious

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 Před 3 lety +3

      Interesting because to me that seems like something someone lazy and talentless would do. You're probably doing good as you are, being like this dennis guy is not really an achievement.

    • @512TheWolf512
      @512TheWolf512 Před 3 lety

      @@RenegadeShepard69 well if not talent, then what do you need to have to produce all the music, videos and poetry to go along with the edge?

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 Před 3 lety +2

      @@512TheWolf512 knowledge and proficiency. If you learn something you will have what you need to do something. Regardless, I wasn't trying to argue on the nature of "talent", rather just say even a lot of people "without talent" and who are lazy can do something artistic. Will just have different outcomes depending on the commitment.

  • @Fireblazer-ly3od
    @Fireblazer-ly3od Před 3 lety

    Thank you. I was looking for a rabbit hole to go into. You deserve more recognition. This is great

  • @witherfang1368
    @witherfang1368 Před 3 lety +5

    I should hire this guy to write essays for me with very strange comparisons

  • @donovanmuse5715
    @donovanmuse5715 Před 3 lety +10

    begotten definitely has to be his friend that was walking thru the graveyard.
    Clues:
    1) Dennis of all people get chosen to drop the discography
    2) His friend lives in the same area of the address from georgia
    3) His friend disappearing right after insisting that somebody was just messing with and the car shows up
    4) “Do you really want to know who I am?” maybe it’s just me, but that sounds like something a friend who was hiding something would ask

  • @1stIParkMyCar
    @1stIParkMyCar Před 3 lety +8

    Hey guys, Begotten here, just wanted to say thanks for enjoying my music. I really enjoy chopping up samples and putting reverb on them so that was my inspiration

    • @micahwright5901
      @micahwright5901 Před 3 lety

      Is the music really that basic? I might try listening, but the story isn’t enough of a catalyst to make me want to.

    • @timefragment5387
      @timefragment5387 Před rokem +1

      This isn’t him it’s Dennis Mikula

    • @Gbar3387
      @Gbar3387 Před rokem

      TYFYS

  • @revraitah
    @revraitah Před 3 lety

    Nice one pad! Already saw the original one but I think I will spend another 50 minutes of my day to rewatch this~❤️

  • @mixkid93
    @mixkid93 Před 3 lety

    This was the first video I watched of yours. Amazing video and thank you for introducing me to one of the best rabbit holes I've found in awhile.

  • @daniellel230
    @daniellel230 Před 3 lety +17

    well I know what I'm going to be doing for the next 50 minutes

  • @donovanmuse5715
    @donovanmuse5715 Před 3 lety +12

    The quote: “Tell me why...”
    Me: AIN’T NOTHING BUT A HEARTACHE

  • @joetri10
    @joetri10 Před 3 lety +47

    One of the songs in Psalms (Sagittarius) is literally just the song Water me by FKA Twigs
    Another one, Calming, is a song called Chapel by Nicole Dollanganger
    The others are pretty much all samples too.
    This music is only creepy if you don't know what wave and lofi music is.
    As an actual creation of music, it's pretty lazy. It's so echoed and overlayered that little to no effort has been put into it. Another reason why this music sounds the way it does is because all the sampled tracks are singers with an extreme pitch in their sounds.. So lowering the pitch and tempo creates that creepy ethereal sound, but also still an audible sound because of the levels in which the pitch started at.
    This whole video is probably why this music is hitting the way it does and why it might reach people. Because the story is more interesting then the music.
    AS for the music itself... It's not even a notch the likes of God Body Disconnect, Ugasanie, Northumbria and other such artists create. Although these aren't Wave artists, they have a much better way of creating the desired creepy and lonely sound.
    Dark Vapourwave simply just creates this uncertainty in your head because low pitch music sounds wrong and your brain just feels uncomfortable.

    • @JK-gm6kk
      @JK-gm6kk Před 3 lety +3

      420 is pretty much a Diana Ross song slowed down, overall. That doesn't mean I don't like it, I just take it for what it is. So, maybe it's not morally right to deliberately take someone else's work. People have been doing it since music was a thing. It's just way easier to spot now

    • @Lee-rs3kk
      @Lee-rs3kk Před 3 lety +3

      Thank you thank you for the music recs!

  • @jsc315
    @jsc315 Před 3 lety +16

    This reminds me of my edgy teen years. I wrote shit like this all the time. Within 15 min the story started to fall apart and makes less sense the longer the story goes.

  • @septixskeptix1107
    @septixskeptix1107 Před 2 lety +4

    The pretentious word salad Dennis spews like he's trying to sell low effort art to other pretentious hipsters seems pretty inline with the shitty depression poetry he "received."

  • @robertshaw6468
    @robertshaw6468 Před 3 lety +7

    This series really puttin me in the B̴̡̢̨̝̪̳̳͓̗̠͎̞̩̩̮͇̦̞͇̝͇̯͖̣̹̥̋̀͐̇̃̍͗̄̏̈́̈́͋͋͜͜͜͝ͅȩ̵̨̙͇̼̣̗͚̺̰͖̼̩̜͔̞̟̠̦̻͚̥̖̬͉̜̹̻̐̔̄͂g̴̻̼̭̓́͆̿̅̿̋͗͒͊͒̈́́̅̓̈́̂͐̽͘͜ͅo̷̺̦͎̹̞͇̭̭̟̻̞̪̦͔͔͚̫̗̫̭͒̆͋̽̍̑͊̓̉͐̂̍̄̔̔͋̏͘̚͘͝t̶̝͇̊͐́́͛͐̕ẗ̸̙͚̺͙͕̣̹̙̲̭̩͎̙̦̹́̇̓̈́̈́͋̒̔͊̉̆̿̊̒̑͐̿̊͗̕͠͝͠ͅé̴̜̝͚͕͍͚̪͎͍̩̫̜͐̽̍̿̉̓̋̍̄̔̅̅͂͊̑́̐̕̚̚͠͠͝ͅn̶̢̡̳̞̬̜̬̬̱̮̬̠̗͈͇̘̬̱̹̘̥̦̹͕̠̲̖̦͍̈́̋̓̈́̆͂̈̈́́̐̀̄̌̑̽͗̿̆̓͗͊̈́͗́̽̋̉͝ mood

  • @allahzilla_
    @allahzilla_ Před 3 lety +1

    dang i really just watched this whole vid thinking id watch a piece of it. your channel is criminally underrated, ive been watching for about a year now i came back after taking a break from the internet. i assumed you hade millions of subs by now😭 nevertheless the quality of your videos are S tier my man, thank you for showing me the wonderful world of vaporwave.

  • @kaikai4881
    @kaikai4881 Před 2 lety

    one of the best things i’ve seen lately, thanks for making an awesome thing to watch while eating

  • @CrypticArchives
    @CrypticArchives Před 3 lety +9

    TLDR: its a member from a shitty black metal band called ghost bath

  • @awizard72
    @awizard72 Před 3 lety +24

    This is one of your best projects yet, i’m so excited for the one you’ve been working on. I feel like longer projects in the future would be definitely worth it, even if they’re not split up and take a bit longer to produce. Keep it up man, we love ya

  • @williambock1821
    @williambock1821 Před 3 lety

    Just found this channel. Looks VERY interesting. Can’t wait to explore!

  • @RBLOXPRO-cv1fd
    @RBLOXPRO-cv1fd Před 2 lety +2

    No conclusion was surprisingly a very satisfying conclusion

  • @Mokujo
    @Mokujo Před 3 lety +4

    So he put out all 6 albums without a contract, formal agreement, or any kind of financial compensation? This is one big viral marketing campaign lmfao get out of here dude

    • @jenjes5802
      @jenjes5802 Před 3 lety

      We all know this is fake. But I would send my albums to a small record label I would not care if I got any money. IMO art is about art. But we all know this story is true. No one is thinking it is real. Dennis even stated that he is begotten once.

  • @jooree7696
    @jooree7696 Před 3 lety +57

    Really an incredible artist. It inspired me to create my own vaporwave songs (even if i didn't released them yet) and the whole project just sounds awesome. Thank you Begotten and thank you Pad who made me discover this artist

    • @Shiva-mh6td
      @Shiva-mh6td Před 3 lety +9

      Awesome that you found joy in making Music! It's really one of the best things I've discovered in my life, braking the language barrier and showing a part of urself, that you can't really put into words.

  • @drewsims3823
    @drewsims3823 Před 2 lety

    Great job on the video and ty for pointing me to such an amazing musical masterpiece.

  • @uneveneven1887
    @uneveneven1887 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the full documentary!

  • @funeralwindow64o_o45
    @funeralwindow64o_o45 Před 3 lety +8

    Plot twist Dennis was begotten, makes for good marketing honestly

  • @TABBYMUSIC
    @TABBYMUSIC Před 3 lety +84

    This is the only documentary I care about.

    • @leotavares7351
      @leotavares7351 Před 3 lety

      The most underrated content makers: tabby abd pad chennington😔♥️

  • @hardcyd3r
    @hardcyd3r Před 2 lety +2

    I watch a lot of CZcams, this video is a masterpiece. I love the way you describe music.

  • @JASSIEL617
    @JASSIEL617 Před 3 lety

    This is now my fav yt channel, keep up the good work man!

  • @natures_neighbor
    @natures_neighbor Před 3 lety +4

    One of your best documentaries thus far! An extremely interesting and mysterious story about one of the best artists to come out on Geometric Lullaby. Absolute vaporwave gold! Well done Pad.

  • @collinmclaren6608
    @collinmclaren6608 Před 2 lety +4

    Yeah, it started to lose me after _"He opened the letter to find....ANOTHER LETTER!! His hands were shaking from the discovery!!"_ Everything after that just fell into the cliche edgy creepypasta tropes, and took me out of it

    • @PeterCamberwick
      @PeterCamberwick Před 8 měsíci

      Oh come on dude. Who hasn't been scared to the point of shaking when they're ......... opening an ENVELOOOOOOOOOPE! LOL

  • @momo1696
    @momo1696 Před 3 lety +1

    The way you narrated this made me feel like I was in a listening to a goosebumps audiobook (in a good way!). Have you done a video on P-Model or Susumu Hirasawa? I don’t think there’s any videos made of him or his bands in English yet so that could be a cool undertaking! I cannot even begin to explain what this man’s music sounds like. He’s made songs for Berserk and almost every Satoshi Kon movie/show. He’s in his 60’s now and still absolutely killing it. I’d love to get your take on him.

  • @steezygraytripplesgamer7641

    Keep up the great work. You find the most interesting subject matter to make videos on.

  • @dschwamm
    @dschwamm Před 3 lety +17

    I hate to be an asshole about a fun campfire story with a surprisingly optimistic conclusion, but I don't believe any of Dennis's side of this (and, by matter of course, the entire story). This reads like a cliched creepypasta, and I don't mean the so-called "Begotten" side of this as much as Dennis's behavior throughout. There's just some issues with his story that make it feel this way:
    1. He's representing a label which produces music and remix tracks with collaborating artists yet doesn't know anything about the identity of the person he's representing. The label is making money from it yet he has no way of establishing a payment or distribution deal. I can believe this part of the story if we presume that the common anonymity in these genres prevents this label from recognizing the potential legal quagmire they're constantly wading through. Any contract they sign could be nullified if a legitimate name isn't used on the signature and all of the correspondence which establishes Geometric Lullaby's right to sell begotten's work can be invalidated as there is no evidence that the anonymous sender represents the intellectual property owners of said work. Maybe "underground" labels like Geometric Lullaby shoots from the hip like this all the time, but it's already putting them on shaky ground for the next points I'm bringing up.
    2. Dennis's entire correspondence with begotten is weirdly unprofessional and impersonal, yet emotional and invested and trusting as though this was dialogue written for a creepypasta and not the way any actual adult person would establish a business relationship with a potentially unstable artist. This could just be that Dennis was interacting with what he believed to be an ARG strategy by the artist, but the way the story is presented places a lot of seriousness and over-reactionary emotions onto Dennis as a character than if he were just treating this as a game. Dennis is being painted like the character in story whose reactions to everything Begotten gives over is meant to manipulate his (Dennis's) audience into taking Begotten's poetry and mystique as seriously as Dennis does.
    3. The entire graveyard scene was a sequence of events that I find really hard to believe happened. Tons of coincidence, a cell phone feed seems to glitch out right as something interesting might be happening, the fact that Dennis seems to be the only person in his friend's life who is talking online about this guy's sudden uprooting and disappearance all while one of the missing person's friends is talking about it parallel to marketing hit "begotten" albums. This part of the story is silly, doesn't go anywhere, and strikes me as part of the story author writing themselves into a corner before realizing that they don't want to write just a ghost story but maybe something that's more of a statement on accepting art without a prodding need to analyze the artist alongside it. This part would make me groan and think it made too little sense in a story clearly aiming to be fiction. The best possible defense for Dennis here is if his friend deleted his Facebook and went on radio silence for an extended period of time just to play a prank on the cartoonishly gullible Dennis character.
    4. I think this is most damning of all, but it's even more greatly enhanced by the three points above: Dennis keeps the marketing campaign and album releases going in the face of what he is describing as mounting disturbing occurrences and mysteries around this artist whom he supposedly knows nothing about and is immediately 100% invested in. These are situations wherein he worries for the mental health and well being of the artist, supposedly was sent blood in the mail, that their friend could seemingly go missing after investigating the artist and seemingly being ambushed by somebody in a black vehicle, and yet he's still droppin' albums online (for sale) with the full texts of what's going on including what are written as direct quotes and correspondence with the artist and his own seemingly missing friend, complete with all of the trappings of any standard release by a label looking to get people clicking through their catalog. I don't buy it. I don't buy at all that in the face of the intense things that supposedly happened Dennis or anyone else at the label would feel comfortable releasing the albums, and if they were then they're calling themselves out as horrific irresponsibility with how they handled all of this. Continuing to humor an artist you truly believe could be mentally unstable and slipping deeper into clearly dangerous ways of thinking is bad form, and I almost hate this story because it so encourages this reckless behavior. I've been working in mental health for, well, too long frankly. I'd like to say that I don't believe Dennis would go through with this because of the understanding of how harmful this behavior could be, but given that apparently whoever wrote this tale doesn't realize that issue then I would hope instead that Dennis would recognize the possible legal issues he could get in by not only passing off notes of suicidal ideation from someone he believes to be mentally unwell, but PROFITING off of it as well.
    I wouldn't be quite as critical of it, but given how many people have discussed this story with me like it's 100% truth I can't help but treat it like it needs to be verified against being a hoax. Nowhere do I see that it's untrue in any way, which means if it isn't true then it really is a hoax designed to push selling albums and that's... a lot less fun to me than a campy backstory for an art project. And, like I mentioned, I don't believe any of it to be true. It especially rubs me the wrong way that, with the context and phrasing, the happy ending seems to imply it's a good thing to engage with (and profit off of) the delusions and suicidal ideations of the mentally unwell. I figure it's just a collaborative ARG-ish backstory that Dennis and the true artist (or himself, if he secretly actually is Begotten) developed together as a marketing ploy, and I don't think they had any ill intentions in its creation, but I still can't help but to be rubbed the wrong way by how it was executed and delivered.

    • @fengy5629
      @fengy5629 Před 3 lety

      your second point is the one that really struck me throughout this whole thing. i don't like the message or how it was portrayed, but that constant lack of believable human communication just made me want to roll my eyes. it felt like at any moment he was going to see hyperrealistic blood and vomit.

  • @AlbornozVEVO
    @AlbornozVEVO Před 3 lety +9

    6 albums. Depressing theme. Eerie explanations.
    This is truly the "Everywhere At The End Of Time" of Vaporwave.

  • @nikolatesla7924
    @nikolatesla7924 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing, I've been looking for the second album for years since I stumbled upon it and forgot what it was called. Thanks

  • @kbarts316
    @kbarts316 Před 3 lety +1

    It's cool to see the SkullTronix clips. I used to watch those videos when I was a kid lol

  • @raisinrobber9731
    @raisinrobber9731 Před 3 lety +10

    I think this "begotten" character is pulling a Jandek.

    • @DrCongo-hs5bg
      @DrCongo-hs5bg Před 3 lety

      True

    • @thelo-fidelityarchive597
      @thelo-fidelityarchive597 Před 3 lety +4

      A little bit, but Jandek is a lot more protective with their identity and it doesn't feel like a marketing stunt.
      Pad should definitely check out Jandek though.

  • @joelcrafter43
    @joelcrafter43 Před 3 lety +4

    Honestly the part about all the crap happening with his friend not contacting him is what made me really think the story was very unlikely to be true.

  • @leviblock7574
    @leviblock7574 Před 3 lety

    Very great video. I watched your separate videos and bought begotten's music afterwards. The music is pretty creepy yet amazing.

  • @edens933
    @edens933 Před 3 lety

    This is extremely interesting actually, and part of me wishes I was involved for some reason. Good video!

  • @pyrovio9480
    @pyrovio9480 Před 2 lety +3

    This just seems like an edgy way to get people interested in a typical vaperwave album

  • @keyonalyles2267
    @keyonalyles2267 Před rokem +3

    I have watched this 3 times already and I am deeply intrigued~

  • @frenchhorn3434
    @frenchhorn3434 Před 2 lety +1

    amazing video begotten is definitely going in the bandcamp hall of fame

  • @Utonian21
    @Utonian21 Před 2 lety +1

    Honestly, I think the biggest giveaway to this all being a marketing scheme is the fact that the homie already had the super special edition limited cassettes on deck for the first album's release

  • @UniversalHomeboy
    @UniversalHomeboy Před 3 lety +4

    Just a thought...
    Was the the letter from Georgia USA or the country Georgia
    The country Azerbaijan and Georgia share a border

  • @honeybeeami2654
    @honeybeeami2654 Před 3 lety +10

    No matter how this came to be, you cannot deny this music is damn near genius. I can’t believe someone could make one let alone six just like that and keep that same energy

  • @davids7556
    @davids7556 Před rokem +1

    Amazing story. Just amazing. I'm hooked.

  • @kingkeefage
    @kingkeefage Před 3 lety +1

    "Scared to death of death itself and nowhere to turn, I hope I find solace before it's too late to learn."