Why Soldier Boy Is A Better Villain Than Homelander!

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  • čas přidán 12. 12. 2023
  • The Boys' Season 3, Why Soldier Boy emerges as a superior villain to Homelander. I Know The Boys wouldn’t be anything without Homelander but for me Soldier Boy stole the show in season 3!
    Let’s explore his unexpected transformation, quirky traits, and unique blend of humor.
    Witness the epic showdown and join the Redditor debate on Soldier Boy vs. Homelander. Discover Soldier Boy's resilience, code of justice, and his pivotal role in 'The Boys' universe. Is he a villain, a hero, or a confused dad?
    Share your thoughts on this intriguing character who adds a new dynamic to the upcoming season.
    #theboys #amazonprime #soldierboy

Komentáře • 231

  • @MovieF8
    @MovieF8  Před 5 měsíci +93

    Where do you stand on Soldier Boy?
    Is he a Hero, Anti-Hero, Anti-Villain or Villain?

    • @esfratch
      @esfratch Před 5 měsíci +19

      He is a Villain, he does not have any empathy to the persons he killed, or a real importance on he's reputation. The only reason that could make sense to some people to be an anti-hero or something similar is because he got the change to defeat homelander. Is not about siding with soldier boy, it was about killing home lander and later deal with soldier boy. One thing is true, soldier boy is less chaotic than homelander, (but that might just be because he's powers aren't destructive as homelander), and like you said, he's better to reason with. But… yeah, he is a villain, he didn't do anything "good" the only thing is that he is honest with himself when it comes to that. Take the part when MM talk to him saying he killed he's family, and he responds which one. He knows he is evil, but he accepts that, not like homelander. Love your vids :d

    • @arkornelsk7913
      @arkornelsk7913 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Anti-Hero - Soldier boy is Soldier boy

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@esfratch Always fun to read your take on these things! 🔥 As always so far I completely agree with you😊 Loved the character and acting but yeah hes a bit twisted…
      Thank You, Love your comments! 🔥

    • @estiellight3233
      @estiellight3233 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Anti-Villain and as you said he has redeeming qualities, I could see him getting his own spin off or he'd become a real anti-hero because let's be he'll never be a hero but could really question and improve himself in his own series.
      Unlike Homelander, who took sadistic pleasure in killing all his terrorists in season 1, when he kills it's because he still thinks it's the right thing to do to fix the situation.
      And no, Soldier Boy isn't really a villain, he's just an asshole who needs to question himself and I sincerely pray that he gets his Spin-Off.

    • @darlalathan6143
      @darlalathan6143 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Villain.

  • @thelegend3965
    @thelegend3965 Před 5 měsíci +559

    He’s definitely not a straight up Villain, he’s an Anti-Villain. He does have a moral compass, I mean he was willing to kill his own Biological Son to keep his promise to Butcher.

    • @elijahhayter3026
      @elijahhayter3026 Před 5 měsíci +32

      Wouldn’t that just make him lawful evil?

    • @Jurbo33
      @Jurbo33 Před 4 měsíci +31

      ​@@elijahhayter3026i think it would if his son wasn't so clearly already independently evil

    • @elijahhayter3026
      @elijahhayter3026 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@Jurbo33 I always saw HL as neutral evil.

    • @JohnnyWolfblood
      @JohnnyWolfblood Před 4 měsíci +3

      Well anyone who knows what he did to Gunpowder knows he's not straight...

    • @lasue7244
      @lasue7244 Před 4 měsíci

      @@elijahhayter3026boy do you need to get your eye check then. HL is not even on lawful-neutral-chaotic chart. He's Pure Evil

  • @panik735
    @panik735 Před 4 měsíci +105

    Homelander : damaged villain
    Butcher : vengeful antihero
    Soldier boy : flawed hero

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 Před měsícem

      Imagine hero killing a child family because they are black

  • @mr.punisher5100
    @mr.punisher5100 Před 5 měsíci +288

    Honestly if there's any character in The Boys that deserves their own spinoff it has to be Soldier Boy. We haven't seen the full extent of what happened in his life before Homelander was born. It could be set in the 1940s, 50s, 60s and 70s. Maybe get more insight and depth on his childhood and see how he developed into an abusive tyrant. Also the stuff with World War 1 or 2 and the battle against the Soviets

    • @meritorioustechnate9455
      @meritorioustechnate9455 Před 4 měsíci +6

      We just need The boys prequel. My favorite episodes are the flashback 😭

    • @someone3574
      @someone3574 Před 4 měsíci +4

      That would be so good. Also making scenes like the desembark of Normandia with Soldier Boy there, showing the World War 2, and later Vietnam and the cold war against the URSS... there is so much content mixing real history with superhero content, and like you say, getting deeper in the evolution of Soldier Boy as a character. Much better than Gen V, but also a more expensive show... hope they go for it.

    • @LilPitbuII
      @LilPitbuII Před 4 měsíci

      Agreed, would love to see how theyll handle wit his backstory

  • @esmineldraaybara6975
    @esmineldraaybara6975 Před 5 měsíci +95

    Soldier Boy is a better person than Homelander. Which is not really an achievement.

  • @utkarshasthana3853
    @utkarshasthana3853 Před 4 měsíci +91

    What didn’t fit right was his past version and his current version, in his past stories he was clearly evil like the rest of the bad heroes but he was more of an anti hero in the recent events. They kept saying he was really bad and worse than homelander but nothing indicated that

    • @programmable_life
      @programmable_life Před 4 měsíci +14

      Actually we never saw him doing anything he likes,The version we saw just wanted to take revenge and abide by his deal with Butcher but after that what would he do, if he wasn't captured that is.

    • @Proximate1
      @Proximate1 Před 4 měsíci +15

      @@programmable_life He did say he wanted to settle down and have kids at some point, to raise them up "better than his father did", whether that would succeed is arguable but he definitely didn't seem to have some diabolical, dangerous plan to abuse his power after he concluded his mission, unlike Homelander

    • @thebearclaw1313
      @thebearclaw1313 Před 4 měsíci +15

      Being tortured for 40 years tends to humble you. I'm sure he was worse and he was oblivious to people hating him , now he knows and he's chilled more out , and butcher betrayed him like his team. So there's more ptsd

  • @TitoFrito5445
    @TitoFrito5445 Před 5 měsíci +142

    Im adding him to my dream blunt rotation

    • @josemias
      @josemias Před 5 měsíci +14

      All fun and games until he sees a black guy

    • @najpalace3458
      @najpalace3458 Před 5 měsíci

      @@josemiashe’s a lot of things but idk if he’s racist…I mean he was partying and got roofied by bill Cosby 😂😂yea homophobic and sexist but idk about racist well at least not towards black people😂

    • @bigmo8588
      @bigmo8588 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Didnt he say he loves bill cosby?

    • @TitoFrito5445
      @TitoFrito5445 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I like Cosby 😈

  • @Jere746
    @Jere746 Před 5 měsíci +248

    Not even a debate, I was rooting for Soldier Boy till the end. I hope he comes back.

    • @The__Deadman
      @The__Deadman Před 5 měsíci +18

      You rooting for Soldier Boy proves Homelander being a better villain lol.

    • @Jere746
      @Jere746 Před 5 měsíci +40

      @@The__Deadman Well, yeah obviously. Since Soldier is not even a villain.

    • @J10005
      @J10005 Před 5 měsíci +13

      ​@@The__DeadmanIt makes him a slightly more complex villain since you can empathize with him more.

    • @The__Deadman
      @The__Deadman Před 5 měsíci +16

      @@J10005 No, relatable villains are over done and in a lot of cases that makes them less of a villain.
      Soldier Boy isn't even comparable to Homelander as a villain, idk why there's so much hype around him. He's a cool character fs but Homelander is the one who makes you uncomfortable and scared for other characters every time he's on screen. He's one of the best modern villains, probably ever.

    • @The__Deadman
      @The__Deadman Před 5 měsíci

      @@Jere746 Depents on who you ask cause he is really a piece of shit. But yeah compared to Homelander he's not.

  • @tristinmcclain5451
    @tristinmcclain5451 Před 4 měsíci +34

    I think the only reason soldier boy works so well is directly because of homelander, theyre both bad people but theyre opposites, homelamder is a man child obsessed with being loved, soldier boy is a mans man who takes it to the extreme, soldier boy wouldnt work nearly as well if we didnt have homelander to compare him to

  • @chadbinette3201
    @chadbinette3201 Před 5 měsíci +34

    I didn't question anything, I loved soldier boy haha. I hope he comes back wearing the black noir suit just to really mess with homelander's head .

  • @sumanchaturvedi3415
    @sumanchaturvedi3415 Před 4 měsíci +22

    To me he is an anti hero he just had to kill his own son as a promise otherwise he just wanted a bloodline and he just wanted revenge for what the team did to him to me.

    • @kingol4801
      @kingol4801 Před 4 měsíci

      He is very abusive, racist and kills people for fun.

  • @lordphoenix3953
    @lordphoenix3953 Před 5 měsíci +99

    Soldier Boy was never a villain. He was the actual hero the whole time. (Even if he has some terrible flaws) He was the only one that was willing to do what was necessary. Shoulda nuked Butcher and Homelander.

    • @wumbosaur6111
      @wumbosaur6111 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Soldier boy was the villain. What he did to black noir and them before they turned on him (causing them to turn on him) was evil.

    • @TheRealGazebo
      @TheRealGazebo Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@wumbosaur6111 I mean back then it was common for drill sergeants to hit disrespectful soldiers. He saw himself as the sergeant and his team as lower soldiers. Of course it isn’t justified however the 40s were overall just a different time which is the time he grew up in.

    • @Trelitty11
      @Trelitty11 Před 4 měsíci +14

      Yeah I don’t see him as a villain . More like a self obsessed douche bag who’s a hero . He usually thinks he’s doing the right thing despite there being innocent casualties around him . His only real offenses being how he treated his teammates , beating up noir for trying to take the spotlight , and accidentally throwing a car into monthers milks home . He didn’t even try and harm MM when he threw the gas at him .

    • @papadoc331
      @papadoc331 Před 4 měsíci

      @@TheRealGazebo no one did it like him and noir was never disrespectful

    • @Pumpkinwithsmoke
      @Pumpkinwithsmoke Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@wumbosaur6111 i think he means current soldier boy who wa humbled by 40 years of torture

  • @Foxster_13
    @Foxster_13 Před 5 měsíci +79

    I feel Soldier Boy is probably a better...... person than Homelander, not by much, of course, but I feel that, as you say, he does what he feels is right, I believe he does what he does because he actually cares about the people of America whereas Honelander only wants the love of the people or more simply, he wants them to care about him more than he cares about them.
    However, I have always wondered what Soldier Boy would have been like as a father to Homelander. Would he have really stepped aside for Honelander to take his place, or would he have been a terrible father? Either way, perhaps it might have made Homelander a better person if Soldier Boy was kept around and not given to the Russians. I'm not saying that he'd 100% be better, but there might be a chance.

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 5 měsíci +6

      @Foxster_13 Agreed!💯 Doubt that Homelander would be worse but got a feeling that season 4 will bring some surprises 😄

    • @Lastjustice
      @Lastjustice Před 5 měsíci +8

      Homelander would probably turned out far better had Soldier Boy raised him. He lacked people in his life to ground him. He broke a nurse on accident and took the wrong lesson that people are fragile insects. Even if he hated his father, he would at least had a relationship and dealt with someone who could kept him in line for most of his life. This would have grounded him so much more. I think Soldier boy would push Homelander be someone he could been proud of even if he thought his dad was overbearing. Homelander will actually strive to be a hero instead just pretending to be one. Homelander lost his way because there was no one with a firm hand to keep him in check. Even as an adult Homelander really just wanted a father in his life. He at the end of the day is a scared little boy who never learned how truly be a man. I believe both of them would been better for a relationship with each other.

    • @izuela7677
      @izuela7677 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I think past him bought into his cult of personality. The hype. So he acted like an entitled diva. I think the decades of captivity, betrayed and abandoned, gave him a lot of time to think about how fake it all was... And PTSD.

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Soldier Boy is most definitely the highlight of season 3.

  • @alfonsovidal1759
    @alfonsovidal1759 Před 5 měsíci +8

    The first time i ended tge entire season 3 i was like 'soldier boy= the goat'

  • @Errorvirus404
    @Errorvirus404 Před 4 měsíci +10

    The thing i feel about soldier boy is that deep down he hates himself. All his life he was treated terribly by his own father and used by vaught, which led him to develop an inferiority complex. He acts the way he does as a way to hide his pain. All he ever wanted was to be loved by his father, a father he could never please. Soldier boy had problems due to his father's neglect so much that he couldn't even keep up in school. So his father sent him to boarding school just to so he wouldn't be around him but of course he failed in that to. So having enough of him he called him a disappointment to which ben became soldier boy and becoming the greatest american hero hope it would change his father's mind but of course it still didn't work. Even after years have pasted and his father died the pain his father left him with turned into just as much as a terrible person as his father. He tried so hard not to believe his father was right about him but when he confronted homelander for the last time, seeing so much of the terrible person he himself was in his own son homelander he finally saw that his dad was right. Soldier wanted to raise his kids to be better them himself but in the end homelander became a darker reflection of him. When it comes down to it Soldier boy isn't evil like homelander or other supes but just a man who can't let go of the past who does horrible things to vent out his pain.

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @EvilBoyGenius666 Agree!💯 You can really feel for most of the characters in The Boys, Hats off to the writers and hats off to you for this comment! 🔥

    • @Errorvirus404
      @Errorvirus404 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@MovieF8 thanks. And thanks for making the video.

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Errorvirus404 Thank You!🤝

  • @redfuriesanimations
    @redfuriesanimations Před 5 měsíci +24

    Soldier Boy is the real hero, he doesn’t relish in murder. He beats out Billy Butcher morally, as he doesn’t go back on his word. He’s paranoid sure, but it’s justified given what’s happened to him. I think Ryan and Soldier Boy will be the ones to finally wipe out Homelander as Billy Butcher is probably going to die next season. For a spin-off show though, what about “Soldier Boy: Hero of Heroes”.

  • @agustindotta7089
    @agustindotta7089 Před 5 měsíci +8

    If captain america had an average discord humor and admire sigma edits as the peak of masculinity

  • @beans7675
    @beans7675 Před 5 měsíci +19

    he's an asshole but let's be honest the fact that he sticks to his promise says something about him

    • @JasonCan-wp2fu
      @JasonCan-wp2fu Před 3 měsíci

      Dake

    • @beans7675
      @beans7675 Před 3 měsíci

      @@JasonCan-wp2fu I say uhhhhh she say do u love me i tell her only partly i only love my men and my bed im sorry

  • @ryanarment5393
    @ryanarment5393 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Soldier Boy is a flawed person, but he's not a villain. He was callous, didn't care about collateral damage, and he bullied his team. None of those things make him a villain. He had a code of honor and killed to fulfill his missions, but only as part of his mission.What sealed it for me was when Hughie asked him about the explosion in Manhattan, soldier boy's response was, "I didn't mean to hurt those people." He was shaken and remorseful about it. He had no reason to lie or spin it it so hughie would help him, he already knew hughie was onboard for good or ill. He also didn't hide that he didn't care about hughie's opinions. A character like homelander would have blown it off with a smile or threatened hughie to not ask about it again.

    • @kingol4801
      @kingol4801 Před 4 měsíci +1

      No. Abuse is definitely a villainous thing to do.
      In fact, abuse cannot be justified period, whereas murder can conditionally.

  • @howdoichangemyusername9802
    @howdoichangemyusername9802 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I find it strange that people think SB is this morally ambiguous character when I think he was just a prototype Homelander. Someone made to be an extremely marketable topic. Like HL, he represents what was marketable during his time. Hard work, patriotism, a focus on nuclear family, and abstinence from drugs when he’s the complete opposite. He was born with a golden spoon in his mouth, probably takes enough drugs to put 1000 people in a catatonic state and doesn’t even know what it was like to be in the front lines, likely just buying into the the marketing. Whilst his relationship with Crimson Countess isn’t really explored, it’s clear that his affairs did have an affect on her if Mallory’s flashbacks are accurate in which she is physically annoyed by his advances in Mallory.
    But like HL, he does have an inflated ego of himself. In that parody anti-drug ad he’s angered at introducing himself claiming that the world knows who he is. Very similar to S2 where HL claims that even someone from the Middle East and no exposure to America could recognize him. He’s angered when Butcher claims HL took his spot, suggesting he thinks no one could ever achieve the acclaim and status he had. And most notably was the Black Noir incident, where he purposely sabotaged his chance at moving up in the world and violently assaulted him when he attempted to argue and threatened to kill him if Black Noir had ever attempted to rise above being his lackey.
    Overall, he’s just a bad person and the fact his team sold him out with the only compensation being they’d never deal with him again really shows that. He serves to reflect of Captain America as Homelander does Superman.
    Honelander delves into a Superman who’s treated as a product rather than a person.
    Soldier Boy showcases what happens when power is given to a person with horrendous ideals.
    His traits aren’t supposed to highlight him a nuanced person. They highlight that even evil people have their own traits and hobbies. Hitler still had things he probably enjoyed doing, but that wouldn’t stop him from being the personification of evil.

  • @molom1741
    @molom1741 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I think, that soldier boy more than anything, ia a superstar, but in contrast to homelander, and the essay in modern celebrity culture, that shows homelander constant need for approval, and how fast it can go away, soldier boy simply is. Henceforth he has absolutely no need to care for anybody else, and yet, he somewhat does! Even though he had severe daddy issues, he tried to love crimson countess, and was forgotten, imagine how much that would hurt. And i might add that he in fact somehow served his country, in black opp missions, and by being a symbol, and not only vought forgot him, but america, the love of his life, and his workmates, and yet, after all of that, he still kept true to his word. And saw the worst of himself in his son, homelander, giving him the chance to finally be better, holding my breath to see where they will take his journey! Amazing video!

  • @87krull
    @87krull Před 4 měsíci +6

    I always found Soldier Boy to be a crossover between Captain America and Big Boss. Simply having swapped the eyepatch out for a bad attitude 🤩

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 4 měsíci +2

      @87krull 😂🔥

  • @aussiewanderer6304
    @aussiewanderer6304 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I he'd won the fight, he might have joined the Seven.
    I'm just imagining poor Ashley having to deal with him...

  • @Barot8
    @Barot8 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Jenson really knocked it out of the park with his performance.

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @Barot8 Agreed💯

  • @confusedgreenbean6137
    @confusedgreenbean6137 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Lowkey if he ever returns i can see him being the main villain cause hes literally coming after everyone the second hes out, butcher, the rest of the boys, even ryan and homelander

  • @peterkujo2281
    @peterkujo2281 Před 4 měsíci +11

    he isnt a villain, hes a very powerful asshole. he can show honor and does not seem to take pleasure in killing innocent people, also during the payback fight scene, soldier boy is actively fighting the enemy forces.

    • @Wes_Bradley-Taubner
      @Wes_Bradley-Taubner Před 3 měsíci

      Dude regularly abused his friends so many times that they were willing to risk their lives to put him down. He’s 100% a villain. A racist, sexist, homophobic, unstable, abusive, narcissistic villain.
      He’s by far my favourite character, but part of what makes him a good character is that he’s one of the few villains who actually tries to be a hero but sucks so much as a person that he’s still a villain

    • @cheesemccheese5780
      @cheesemccheese5780 Před 5 dny

      @@Wes_Bradley-Taubner His "friends" are superheroes who the show shows that superheroes tend to be pretty bad people so him being abusive to them doesn't really generate much emotion from me or the rest of the audience I assume. "racist, sexist, homophobic" The guy was born in 1919 and his racism, sexism and homophobia for a successful man born on that year is very mild.

  • @JohnnyWolfblood
    @JohnnyWolfblood Před 4 měsíci +7

    I'd hate to be that guy, but Homelander was solidly winning when it was one on one.
    It took three guys with super strength to even hurt him.

    • @Ace_Bandido808
      @Ace_Bandido808 Před 4 měsíci +3

      He wouldn't kill soldier boy tho. In the end it took almost all the heroes to hold down soldier boy.

    • @JohnnyWolfblood
      @JohnnyWolfblood Před 4 měsíci

      If it was a 1v1 match to the death, I'm betting on Homelander.
      When it's JUST the two of them Homelander is noticeably winning.

    • @isaiahbrown9402
      @isaiahbrown9402 Před 4 měsíci

      @@JohnnyWolfbloodidk bout that soldier boy can de power homelander

  • @ZeusAmun-pt9dc
    @ZeusAmun-pt9dc Před 5 měsíci +8

    Okay!! Everyone keeps getting this wrong. He doesn't have a taste for older women. He's much older than they are Hell he's probably 50 years older than crimson countess.
    He just doesn't age because he was a man when he was experimented on.

  • @CameraPunk5049
    @CameraPunk5049 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Villain?
    Bruh he was great.
    He is like a more alcholic version of Ultimate Captain America lol

  • @brocKain
    @brocKain Před 4 měsíci +2

    He doesn't kill because he enjoys it or kills for the sake of killing. He acknowledges innocent people don't need to get hurt but if they're in his way it's all collateral damage in a nut shell. If anything he's indifferent towards the suffering he causes by accident but he's also bothered by it, somewhat, not enough to dwell on it though. In the end he's more focused on himself.

  • @The__Deadman
    @The__Deadman Před 5 měsíci +15

    Imo it's not close. Homelander is the heart of the show and more entertaining to watch.

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager Před 4 měsíci +10

    They should have let Soldier Boy do his thing.
    When push comes to shove, he does not want to burn the world to ash because of mommy issues. And that makes him infinitely better than Homelander.

  • @huynhvuongviet2410
    @huynhvuongviet2410 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Season 1: Homelander
    Season 2: Stormfront
    Season 3: Soldier Boy
    Season 4: ???

    • @jachymos
      @jachymos Před 5 měsíci +1

      Probably Tek-Knight, I think.

    • @ATHLETIC_FEMBOI
      @ATHLETIC_FEMBOI Před 4 měsíci

      ​@jachymos But Tek Knight is a hero, though. He's just super weird

    • @huynhvuongviet2410
      @huynhvuongviet2410 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ATHLETIC_FEMBOI wasnt he like "if there's a hole, there's a way?"

    • @iamyourworstnightmare
      @iamyourworstnightmare Před 20 dny

      Neuman I think Then season 5 Ryan and solider boy.

  • @Smoulderboi4162
    @Smoulderboi4162 Před 4 měsíci +3

    i dont understand why they made soldier boy a villain, all he did was swipe away ryan and his whole character dynamic changes, butcher should have realised ryan was fine and focused on homelander, it just seems so unlikely that he would switch so easily, he was so close to killing homelander and just throws it all away. soldier boy gets frozen and we're back to square fucking one. homelander is the villain and needs to be stopped, i dont understand why any of the characters got distracted, soldier boy is powerful and an asshole but hes not going to go out and kill people, its shown that homelander has done irredeemable things and will do more. the final fight was a fun spectacle but ultimately ruined the show a lot for me.

  • @calumgreen3026
    @calumgreen3026 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Stannis mentioned, I’m sold.

  • @SoldierBoy_snippet
    @SoldierBoy_snippet Před 5 měsíci +4

    I'm not a fucking supervillain.

  • @tamironhill3324
    @tamironhill3324 Před 4 měsíci +2

    He is a villain….that ending with Homelander….he ended up deciding to go through with it because he was disgusted with him. He does seem to have morals but having morals won’t make someone an anti-hero, he is about himself and he is abusive. He’s the guy who embraced toxic masculinity and is shocked that others don’t have loyalty to him…somewhat understandable as society told him to be that. You could say he is a sympathetic villain at most

    • @kingol4801
      @kingol4801 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I am glad you understood the message so well.
      Most people get taken ahold by the actor’s charisma and ignore what he stands for entirely…

    • @tamironhill3324
      @tamironhill3324 Před 4 měsíci

      @@kingol4801 yeah being more complex than a one-dimensional cartoon villain doesn’t make a bad guy an anti-hero. They can be understood and related to but they’re still bad.

  • @Ash-Winchester
    @Ash-Winchester Před 4 měsíci +8

    The thing I like most about soldier boy is that he's a walking allegory for disempowering the capitalist/ruling class. Given that the radioactive blasts he fires from his chest can neutralize compound v and makes supes normal again.

  • @mitsukami
    @mitsukami Před 3 dny +1

    Homelander is aware that he is mentally broken, and that his evil actions are caused by pleasure or lack of control.
    Soldier Boy believes he is a true hero, while he cannot or does not want to understand the fact that he did bad things.
    I believe that Soldier Boy is not hated like Homelander, because he simply appeared for a few episodes, while Homelander had dozens of scenes dedicated to him.

  • @ghostwriter1440
    @ghostwriter1440 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Soldier boy reminds me of Shane from The Walking Dead in that he is a bit of a loose cannon but is not devoid of redeeming qualities ,planting a foot on either side of the line between villain and perhaps tragic anti hero?
    Antagonists like this set up a foil to allow other characters to develop while at the same time holds a mirror to the audience to reflect on their own morality- which can be which can be as one dimensional as a reflection if viewed straight or imply extra depth and dimension if viewed from an angle

  • @someone3574
    @someone3574 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Both are insane villains, love them two. But I think Homelander is better as a Villain. It has so much juice. All his insecurities hidden under his insane power, the image hi wants to show and how he really is... its just insane, and the actor is too good. For me, Homelander is one of the best villains ever in a TV show. Soldier Boy is a TOP antagonist for a season, but I don't see him better than Homelander.

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager Před 4 měsíci +2

    I hated his portrayal in Gen V.
    He should have been the fake persona, the All American good guy she would have known, not the real Soldier Boy. It was a huge plot hole.

  • @blackdynamite_5470
    @blackdynamite_5470 Před 4 měsíci +3

    He's not a bad guy
    When I grow up, I wanna be like Jensen Ackles 😊

  • @michaelmckenna2179
    @michaelmckenna2179 Před 5 měsíci +2

    You're missing the point the point is Billy will bo anything to kill Homlander .... mothers milk will do anything to kill sb so Billy turns on mm ( his brother) to get his ending despite his all super are bad

  • @aarons1705
    @aarons1705 Před 5 měsíci +3

    1. SB isn't a better villain and not a better character, je gets carried by cold lines.
    2. SB is definitly also a villain, he is literally descriped as the orginal Homelander!

  • @tripleh2621
    @tripleh2621 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Actually when I debated with people I asked them why is Soldier Boy a villain (considering that Butcher and Kimiko somehow aren't') - NO LIBERAL could have answered me! Because he is not we just have to open our eyes and see that he is even better than many "heroes" in the show

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind Před 4 měsíci +1

      Are these "liberals" in the room with you right now?

    • @tripleh2621
      @tripleh2621 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@MouldMadeMind What???

  • @BenjaminBrooks-Dog
    @BenjaminBrooks-Dog Před 3 měsíci +1

    Straight popped Hughie 😂😂

  • @sagenerd419
    @sagenerd419 Před 5 měsíci +4

    He just seems like the comedian but actually evil 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @Guyverman01
    @Guyverman01 Před 5 měsíci +2

    If Captain America let PTSD get the better of him.

  • @robertbaratheon8635
    @robertbaratheon8635 Před 4 měsíci +2

    He's not a villain, probably is an anti-hero but definitely not a villain

  • @Elactyrl9343
    @Elactyrl9343 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The way things ended, Soldier Boy is the only hero left on the show. They f'ed up by having Billy turn on Soldier Boy after Soldier Boy kept his word with Billy to take out his own son!

  • @travishooten3442
    @travishooten3442 Před 4 měsíci +1

    He's more like an antihero he's done some pretty horrible things but he's not straight up evil he's a very complicated character who toes that moraly Grey line

  • @berkin88punk
    @berkin88punk Před 5 měsíci +2

    He is not villain he is our idol

  • @JohnnyWolfblood
    @JohnnyWolfblood Před 4 měsíci +3

    Also, do you remember what he did to Gunpowder?
    Also he tried to kill his son.
    Homelander is definitely the lesser of two evils.

    • @crypt5129
      @crypt5129 Před 4 měsíci +3

      He physically abused Gunpowder, Homelander did a rape (likely several considering his character)
      Homelander is an actual threat to billions of lives, it would be evil of Soldier Boy to let him live because they're related, him refusing to go back on his word and trying to kill Homelander does not make him evil

    • @JohnnyWolfblood
      @JohnnyWolfblood Před 4 měsíci

      If you listen to what Billy said to Gunpowder at the urinal you'll know Soldier Boy did some OTHER kind of abuse as well.
      Also, Soldier Boy actually seems way more likely to turn on innocents than Homelander.
      Homelander isn't a saint but at least with him you have a chance.

    • @wisepalaz
      @wisepalaz Před 4 měsíci +1

      His son is a psychopath

    • @promeneuzivotu117
      @promeneuzivotu117 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@wisepalaz yeah honestly if my child ever does something like Homelander i would probobly commit a murder-suicide.

  • @sheldonanderson189
    @sheldonanderson189 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I would have rather seen Soldier Boy making cameo appearances in video games than Homelander.

  • @baron_mijail7752
    @baron_mijail7752 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Homelander: Psychopath villain
    Butcher: Anti-hero blinded by revenge
    Soldier boy: Rambo with PTSD and superpowers brought back to life

  • @BenDover-cq6rr
    @BenDover-cq6rr Před 3 měsíci +1

    Feels like the writers realised too late that they made Soldier Boy way too likeable and tried to throw him under the bus with the whole "he never stormed D-Day" angle. Which is within itself a terrible wiritng choice as they threw away an opportunity to show the disparity between a legitimate hero who killed nazis (Soldier Boy) having to come to terms with the fact that every hero in the modern day is a phony junkie who shits on what he thought a hero could be. Something like that is easily represented even in fight scenes where the skilled battle hardened Soldier Boy mops the floor with all of the PR "heroes" who dont even know how to fight against someone equal to themselves.
    An old timey legitimate hero brought to the modern day only to see how far his dream has fallen and then having to humble every supe he comes across to accomplish his mission would of been fantastic in sowing conflict amongst any supe that comes across him as they realise they aren't even close to being as good as they should be.

  • @JacobPresley-ud8iq
    @JacobPresley-ud8iq Před 4 měsíci +1

    The key differenct between solider boy and homelander or like father like son
    Solider boy is a warrior
    Homelander is a bully
    They both are boomers the way they speak
    The way they act, the way they think, the way they feel, and the way they feel understand the world.
    They warrior big fishs in a small pawn
    So there both forces of nature that so much stronger than everyone else,
    Solider boy would inrapted blindshop's ear drums becuase they can.
    So like father, like son i guess.

  • @Laascaanood614
    @Laascaanood614 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Soldier Boy 2024 7:02 😂😂😂

  • @anthonytippett5997
    @anthonytippett5997 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ryan comes from 3 generations of bad dads

  • @DhirC35
    @DhirC35 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Honestly coming down to it ill support homelander over him in that context at the end.

  • @ZeniV2
    @ZeniV2 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I don't really care which side he's on but I respect him for actually Keeping his word till the end until butcher f*ck it up
    But I don't blame em they need to Milk the show as long as possible 😁
    Realistically speaking if Butcher had his Vengeance Mentality instead of his Son pity party The Boys could have ended in season 3

  • @basilplushie2534
    @basilplushie2534 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Y'all forgetting what he did to MM family

  • @KingSlayer_.
    @KingSlayer_. Před 4 měsíci +1

    I'd say he falls between an anti villain and a villain. There's a spectrum to it, of course.
    He isn't a better Villian than Homelander, though.

  • @JasonTalksEverything
    @JasonTalksEverything Před 4 měsíci +1

    This script sounds like it was generated by chatgpt, the future of youtube is looking bright lol

    • @sagarvishe3463
      @sagarvishe3463 Před 4 měsíci

      Even account owner is liking every comment like bot

  • @calebbeasley77
    @calebbeasley77 Před 4 měsíci +1

    He's an anti-hero, much like The Punisher, Peacemaker, Venom, and Klaus or Elijah Michaelson.

  • @thanos2271
    @thanos2271 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Soldier boy kinda did nothing wrong when he got released (definitely was a pos before he was captured)

  • @kevind3974
    @kevind3974 Před 4 měsíci +2

    It’s because he’s not a villain he’s an anti villain. He dos bad even though he’s trying to do good.

  • @marknezanuto
    @marknezanuto Před 4 měsíci +1

    Both of them are good. But id rather see show about soldier boy, yes.

  • @papadoc331
    @papadoc331 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The thing is Homelander will burn the world down if he gets mad. Hes insanely unstable and will not hesitate to kill and destroy everyhting and everyone if they stand in his way of global domination. Soldier Boy is a dickhead but hes no threat to world peace, hes just a chill dude who wants to sit around drinking and smoking weed

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 4 měsíci

      @papadoc331 Agree!🔥💯

  • @BlackMarvel25
    @BlackMarvel25 Před 18 dny +1

    He's absolutely not a villain. I hate how they did him at the end.

  • @WakingTheDemon04
    @WakingTheDemon04 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Homelander is Joffrey, Soldier Boy is Ramsay

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 4 měsíci

      @WakingTheDemon04 Nice One!🔥

  • @NR-hg1zs
    @NR-hg1zs Před 3 měsíci +1

    He’s a hero.

  • @user-jg5pf3mg5y
    @user-jg5pf3mg5y Před 4 měsíci +1

    He is the GOAT

  • @RAJi7945
    @RAJi7945 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My dream would be me Ronald McDonald and soldier boy cracking a blunt in the Forrest with bigfoot in his cave although were actually in my basement and bigfoot aint there were just so high were seeing Bigfoot or at least i am

  • @supa_sets8636
    @supa_sets8636 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Soldier Boy should have soloed butcher and Homelander. I can’t see him as a villian. Not a good person but I don’t see him as evil

  • @Lathanielestrada-qy9jq
    @Lathanielestrada-qy9jq Před 4 měsíci +1

    no i'm the upgrade

  • @Twirly_Sticks
    @Twirly_Sticks Před 5 měsíci +1

    This feels like it was written by ai

  • @fuzzyslippas
    @fuzzyslippas Před 4 měsíci +1

    Honestly soldier boy as a person might be a better villain, that is debatable. However, given the themes of the story, homelander is the one that fits like a glove. On top of this, he, as a hero/villain is a parallel to butcher’s villain/hero. As a critique of conservative values you need a villain that cares for his child, not one that is disdainful of his existence

    • @crypt5129
      @crypt5129 Před 4 měsíci

      Conservative values aren't about caring about your children, it's about pretending to and then believing and doing everything in your power that demonstrates the opposite

  • @user-re6kh2js3c
    @user-re6kh2js3c Před 8 hodinami

    He’s a good guy

  • @wumbosaur6111
    @wumbosaur6111 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The answer: he’s not. Maybe he will be one day but as of now with only 3 seasons out he’s not even close.

  • @highjim7778
    @highjim7778 Před dnem

    if he isnt in s4 i think theyll need superman himself to save the show

  • @brittonprice637
    @brittonprice637 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Butcher is the real supervillian.

  • @abhimanyu2mr
    @abhimanyu2mr Před 4 měsíci +1

    Totally disagree. I didn’t think soldier boy character was anywhere close to the intensity compared to any other villains in the show.

  • @allswellgcwensa9925
    @allswellgcwensa9925 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Soldier Boy is cool

  • @tutiopepe1205
    @tutiopepe1205 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Batman never could against Superman

  • @chrisstewart8954
    @chrisstewart8954 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like soulja boy

  • @highjim7778
    @highjim7778 Před dnem

    villain? he is the ultimate G

  • @TobattoVision
    @TobattoVision Před 4 měsíci +1

    Soldier Boy isn't a villain, and everyone suddenly turning on him at the end was forced and cringe.

  • @FcWally
    @FcWally Před 4 měsíci +1

    ngl hes is between an anti hero and an anti villian

  • @mando9497
    @mando9497 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Soldier Boy is not a villain, more like an antihero.

  • @Andrew-uh4wf
    @Andrew-uh4wf Před 4 měsíci +3

    Personally In all of the boys I want several episodes showing the world if homelander won, if butcher won, and if vought won. I just want to see what it would all look like you knke

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 4 měsíci

      @Andrew-uh4wf If Homelander won would be really intresting! 🔥

  • @RCTPatriot75
    @RCTPatriot75 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I thought Jensen Ackles did a great job.

  • @rhambrick320
    @rhambrick320 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Im sorry did i miss something? Soldier boy is a villain?

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 5 měsíci

      @rhambrick320 It depends for many! Fans seem pretty devided on this question 😄

  • @jonightwing901
    @jonightwing901 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I don't like "relatable villains" tbvh. Give me a villain being properly evil no matter his or her backstory.

  • @informativecontent4778
    @informativecontent4778 Před 4 měsíci

    LOL if soldierboy was in place of homelander i would have liked homelander

  • @vermillionpt21
    @vermillionpt21 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Soldier Boy is kind of a hero tbh

  • @Paul-fi8vw
    @Paul-fi8vw Před 5 měsíci +1

    Dean Winchester???

    • @MovieF8
      @MovieF8  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @Paul-fi8vw That’s right!

  • @yamummyyummy4785
    @yamummyyummy4785 Před 4 měsíci +1

    *hero