Does Toxic Masculinity Exist? - Therapist Reacts to The Boys: Soldier Boy
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Is toxic masculinity real? How does it manifest is someone? What's the difference between toxic masculinity and toughness? Psychotherapist Georgia Dow explains the effects on the person exhibiting this toxicity using Soldier Boy from season 3 of "The Boys!"
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Oh! This was a wonderful video! Iâll be right there! Has been some shows/videos that shows toxic femininity too! I donât know the movies thoughâŠ
Finally!
âââ@@skoopdiddywoop8565 Did you actually watch the video? Or are you venting your frustrations? It's always funny when someone insults another for no reason.
Iâm just discovering your channels. And I avoid the videos that will have spoilers for my favorite franchise. I was wondering if you would please do a video analysis of 127 hours? I would really value your insight there. I think you would be really talented at doing this for war movies. Iâm a navy veteran and I think your talent with words would be really helpful for a lot of people.
The problem I have is when I open up to anyone around me I get hurt by it because everyone around me doesn't understand me.
Dude's powers literally correlates with his mental state. Guy bottles up everything until he can't anymore then explodes and destroys everything around him and then he bottles it up again and the cycle repeats.
quite the allegory
Yes and no as itâs more of it building and happening at small scale the whole time as for powers he has super strength too
@@Channel-23s great comment bro!
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That's what leads to believe that the manifestation of Comp V is tied to personality even trauma ( in Butcher and Hughie's case it's a bastardization of Homelander and A-Train respectively ).
I think a lot of people are missing something between that interaction between Soldier Boy and Homelander. When Homelander tells Soldier Boy that" I am you", Soldier Boy then replies "I know you're an f***ing disappointment", he's not just telling Homelander that, he's also acknowledging his own failings as a person, perhaps even a "hero". This is something that's worth looking into, maybe even doing the deep dive on.
He's also quoting His own father!
Yeah, he definitely has a self hatred be it his from his own or his father's judgment
That explains why instead of anger when he says it, itâs sadness or shame.
Soldier Boy can be hilarious at times, but he is so broken. When he calls Homelander a disappointment, it's like he's looking at his own reflection.
I do really enjoy his character and how he portrays it.
I feel like maybe if he was a stronger person, heâd have had a heart to heart talk with his son and tell him to avoid the mistakes he made. I think that what this show is trying to say is that people like âCaptain Americaâ are rare and most people (especially those not in tune with their emotions) would end up like homelander and his father if given the power.
Because homelander is.
I absolutely love this breakdown of Soldier Boy. He was a great addition to Season 3. His actor was amazing. The twist with Homelander was brilliant and I really hope Soldier Boy returns next season. Something I would also point out in Soldier Boy's character is that his father called him a disappointment and when Soldier Boy confronts Homelander he copies what his father said to him by calling Homelander a disappointment. But ironically Homelander breaks that cycle with his own son Ryan. Homelander doesn't think Ryan is a disappointment he shows affection towards him something neither Soldier Boy or Homelander had as children themselves
SB calling homelander a disappointment after homelander tells him âiâm youâ is the first thing i noticed when watching this episode the first time. but i never thought about how homelander is the one breaking the curse! it feels so weird to have sympathy for homelander but wow, he really is striving to create the family he never had and always wanted
@@theriveroftruth agree, tbh its hard for people to understand this cause Homelander has doing awful things and threats everyone arround him like sh*t, But Vogue its the real villain, they created this monster, they Let him do all their dirty work and cover His fckups, they are far More cold hearted and dangerous cause even if Homelander and all the 7 dissapears, Vogue would still exist, changing names, changing people, rebranding etc but the core would be the same, doing whenever It takes to make a profit
@@theriveroftruth soldier boy is my new favorite character and villain
Homelander has spent no time being a parent, and wants a family at this moment in the show. Ryan will have to continue to be meek to keep Homelanders interest over time.
You probably missed it, but in that case Soldier boy realizes he and Homelander are the same - both pathetic, and that his father was right about him and in dealing with him the way he did, and so tells Homelander off the way his father did.
Looking for love in all the wrong places.
The need for a father's approval.
Loneliness, fear, despair, anger, hate.
Sex, narcotics, alcohol, violent bullying as coping mechanisms..........
All these negative traits will drive a person to do horrible things and creates monsters. This is the core of this show.
It's basically psychoanalysis done as an interesting story.
very true
Soldier Boy is, in my opinion, exactly what a real life Wolverine would be like. Perhaps less obnoxious but just as indifferent to the world & traumatized. We're talking about dealing with 3 times the amount of loss & pain the average human being has to endure, the brain washing, amnesia & physical trauma & that heavily invasive body wide surgery of molten metal being fused to his entire skeleton. No wonder in Logan this man wanted to die, which actually was his motivation in the last two films (Logan & The Wolverine) but at least he overcomes it in the Wolverine to be a hero. It just seems like a grueling, unfair existence. even his powers invoke a painful nature as his claws cut through his hands every time they're deployed. If any veteran has a right to snort & drink whatever drugs he wants, it would be Wolvie đ
Out of curiosity, do you read Wolverine Comics? Been meaning to read more besides the 80âs story and OML and his origin
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 not as much as I'd like to. My introduction to Wolverine was through Hugh Jackman. Before that I knew of him, was even a fan of the X-Men tv series & some comics as kid but it wasn't til his cinematic portrayal I found him compelling & actually cool. Before that I seen him as another boring rank as Cyclops lol
Actually you're spot on. In his earlier appearance's in the X-Men most of the team loathed him. Lol
@@GangstaStan010 Logan in Ultimate X-Men is a total tool. He constantly hits on Jean and students alike, and takes no issue killing another member of the team, while simultaneously acting holier-than-thou with anything related to him.
Iâve always thought that Soldier Boy is a mix between Captain America, Homelander and Wolverine.
But really just Wolverine and Homelander in terms of personality.
Also, both him and Wolvie are giga chadsđ„
First off, love the show version of Solider Boy, because he's the complete opposite of the comic, who was a absolute coward, plus, he has a actual character here.
Secondly, not gonna lie, my first immediate thought of your Soldier Boy cosplay was Nightwing lol
Yah it does have a knighting flare =P I tried hahah
I don't know the comics, but isn't the show's Soldier Boy a coward? He sure isn't a hero or didn't show any sign of courage.
@@petraw9792 SBs TV show... a coward? Like... how is he a coward? Im interested in this.
@@dr_cachetes6822 I can't remember him going into a fight which would put him in actual danger or facing any conflict. This is just the impression I got, he either evades or explodes, both not very brave strategies. But maybe I just forgot about a scene that would prove me wrong.
@@petraw9792 fighting Homelander was actually dangerous, and so was hunting down that psychic guy, so Soldier Boy is not a coward. Like the video maker said, having the be tough mentality makes for good soldiers, even if it does make them less of a healthy person.
Basically you can be super masculine but donât lose your emotions compassion and empathy
Exactly, the point of the video in a nutshell
Do you know the game League of Legends? Braum is that
The definition of being a real man đŻ
MM is actually a fair argument for that.
Bingo
Fun Fact: One of the reasons Jensen Ackles was cast as Soldier Boy was because he was the runner up to play Captain America in the MCU. And - obviously - Soldier Boy is a dark pastiche of Captain America.
he would have been a great captain America but he's an even better soldier boy. He plays the character so well
Jensen debunked this rumour in his last EW interview. Nevertheless, he'd have made an awesome Captain America
Where did you get this info from?.. Jensen already stated that he got the job due to his relation with the director being that Supernatural came from the same creator.
@@GCT1990 not the director but the show runner (Eric Kripke)
No he didn't you can't just say random things as facts. The actor himself stated it was his friendship to Erik krepke. Also stated some of the scenes were written solely so Erik could mess with him
Soldier Boy's issues stem from his relationship with his father. Growing up all he wanted was his father's approval but he could never get it. So he signed up for compound V and became the world's greatest superhero and became a war hero thinking finally he will have his father's approval. Instead he father said he wasn't a man because he took a short cut and cheated. His father would then proceed to call him a disappointment.
I always wondered how in real life, Captain America would be viewed. Now we know.
HL: "Weak? I'm you."
SB: "I know. You're a ****ing disappointment."
Such a good scene. Solider Boy is actively critiquing not only Homelander but himself as well in that particular scene. He developed as a character quite well over the course of S3 I just wish he had more screen time.
Well, he was a disappointment to his father, just like homelander is to him
Your*... Son!... (Not you)
Yeah, he did develop as a character. Thatâs why The Boys shouldnât have all betrayed him and sided with Homelander!
One of my favourite moments of the entire season is Soldier Boy's lip quiver when younger Grace Mallory tells him that his macho act never really works with women. That every woman is either humoring him or afraid of him. He shoots back with something smug about her getting a man, but that lip quiver lets the audience know that he knows she's right.
Ah yes because people are not individuals and everyone would not like a certain attitude đ©
@@richfoster4369 Well it's funny to think that his attitude most of the time attracts men not women
@@Bufubarion probably but there would be and I have met certain women who are attracted to that type of attitude. Definitely a minority tho
I actually felt bad for him. Because he looked on the verge of tears. Great acting.
I mean, there are probably women that did sleep with him totally because they wanted too, for clout or money or because they genuinely found him attractive, not all though, which he's likely aware of, which is why it bothers him
I usually don't like the word "Toxic Masculinity" because it is sometimes used as a weapon to shut down an argument without having a genuine conversation. I also don't like how people frame all masculine traits as toxic. However, SB is the true case of Toxic Masculinity where it not only harms the people around him but himself as well. I've dealt with such father for my entire life while I was more of a emotional type of person. I was taught not to cry and got physically punished when I showed any hint of weakness ... kind of like Butcher. The constant struggle to "not be a pu**y" kept me stressed and anxious until I realized that I can't change myself nor even need to. My father seemed to suffer from it since everyone around him feared him and never showed their emotional towards him making him lonely. He became much loose as he aged and became more emotional. I find him to be a better father and a better man these days than ever before.
Totally agree. I think soldier boy is a hyper -extreme version of toxic masculinity. The problem I have with the term is it's used as a blanket descriptor for anything someone doesn't like about a man. Sometimes people are just jerks, has nothing to do with some perceived level of masculinity, toxic or otherwise.
@@ILoveGrilledCheese Thatâs my view as well. A lot of projection and deflection
yes I agree that's why I said toxic toughness as it is pushed on us all to just keep working or fighting and not think. I think it is a real thing we all have to deal with. what society says is strong and weak. Tank you for sharing. I think Butcher is a good example of how he feels deeply and is tough is a different way.
'Toxic masculinity' is post modernist language and should not be used by any serious person. The term has an agenda which is made clear by the fact that 'toxic femininity' is not a term that is used. That ideology is doing a great job of degrading our language.
@@technopirate304 Why do people take advantage of vulnerability and emotion? I think thatâs a huge reason people mask their emotions
Thanks so much for this analysis, Georgia. There's a difference between being strong and being toxic, and men should feel more able to express their emotions in a healthy way without fear of being emasculated by society.
Society will emasculate men regardless of if their "toxic" or not. Modern society wants everyone, regardless of gender, to be the same carbon copy generic human
Anecdotal as it may be, I've been put down by women just as much as I have by other men for showing emotion when I had rough times. I went through the worst year and a half of my life (father died, mother attempted suicide in front of me, was stalked for couple months then almost killed by an uncle with a meth/mental health problem, and my best friend died in an ATV accident all within a 10 month period) and barely anyone in my personal life, man or woman, wanted anything to do with because I, and I quote, was "a fucking crybaby".
It's an issue for sure but some act like it's an issue only men need to work on. It's an issue we all need to work on together so things can improve.
yes strong is such a different thing. It takes courage to feel and do what you need to.
Society meaning other man here uh
One of the big issues that isn't discussed when talking about men opening up about their emotions is that when men do, they are often taken advantage of by others. This is why a lot of men put up these barriers, because there have been times when they trust someone and let them in, only for that trust to be betrayed.
Soldier Boy was my new favorite character and villain from The Boys. I go back and forth on him, when watching the show, I pitied him and was disappointed how he was disposed of in the season finale.I can understand him when it comes to be betrayed and plus Jensen Ackles acting. However while Homelander is worse, Soldier Boy isn't a saint and some of the worst I have seen of people IRL up close I see in Soldier Boy which makes it unnecessarily complicated
yes he has some great aspects and terrible its a very interesting character to explain
@@GeorgiaDow video recommendation: Why do people take advantage of vulnerability and emotion? I think thatâs a huge reason people mask their emotions
I wouldn't exactly consider him to be a villain with how grey this show is.
@@ThePartisan13 could he be an anti villain?
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Yeah absolutely that makes sense.
I think its one of the biggest "conspiracies" of culture where other people would control the definition of manhood. A narrow definition of manhood that excludes feelings thus excludes listening to your inner voice. This makes one more "useful" to others (like fighting someone else's war.)
very well said
or humanities natural predators and other things
its probubly only resent historically that we don't have to "fear" animals attacks, yes they still happen but rarely,
this world will give you lots of reasons to shutdown you emotions because sometimes they get in the way, so you shut them down, but its harder to get them back
@@kaigraham1287 Society is just ran by Apes.
â@@bishop51807 yes, we are essentiality running Legacy software in a world that the things that got us here are now the problem
Pretty much what we do with Veterans and we defund the VA which is just making this type of stuff predominant amongst soldiers.
so horrible =(
@@GeorgiaDow yeah it gets even worse knowing that they are thrown on the street after their service. They don't get any treatment for their issues and start to cope with drugs and other stuff the homeless do to get by.
Analyzing Soldier Boy from a logical point of view.
I see what you did there ;D
Yea this guy is actually toxic masculinity. He should be the definition. I hate it when people use the phrase for any little thing a guy does, but this.... THIS character is actually toxic
He's based
what little thing has it been thrown at that you dont agree?
@@KT-pu3gn Opening a door
@@jeyrm nobody has ever gotten mad at you for opening a door and if someone does get mad at you for that don't give them any attention, go on about your day, Opening a door for someone isn't toxic
@@KT-pu3gn Ohhh you would be surprise of how many people turn rage mode if you open or hold the door for a woman
Thereâs a time and place to be an emotionless soldier. Having it turned on all the time will cause harm to those who you love.
Reminds me of veterans who suffer from ptsd :(
Is there, though?
When all soldiers lay their weapons down
Or when all kings and all queens relinquish their crowns
Or when the only true messiah rescues us from ourselves
It's easy to imagine
There will be sorrow
Yeah, there will be sorrow
And there will be sorrow no more - sorrow, bad religion
Ya thatâs true you canât especially in the military where others rely on each and team work is important. Also some times you need to act tuff or put up a brave face for others.
â@@hab0272 reminds me of those who suffered because of veterans :(
It's always a joy watching your video
And it's really good to watch them multiple times
At least he keeps his own words. That is the most likeable character from him.
I think an additional point is an unwillingness to change. While Soldier Boy overall is abusive and abrasive, a lot of his thinking comes from his time. Heâs used to the old America and he doesnât accept the new America because itâs simply too different for him to grasp it. Despite him looking in his middle age, heâs over a century old, born in 1919. While itâs considered toxic masculinity now, it was considered the norm for him.
The unwillingness to change part really drives it home. He blows up downtown by accident and says he feels bad for it then does it again and again and again. He got betrayed by his Team because of how he treated them then does it again with the next group. He realizes his father's wrongdoing and is wholeheartedly resentful of his past then projects the exact same sentiment on his own child. Considering all that and going back to his monologue in the forest it really stands out to me " What do i do when im sad or scared or whatever? Fcking Nothing" He admits it completely unintentionally and sadly hughie doesn't pick up on it . Its so interesting on so many levels to me
@@herrsiemes7094 well he didnât have that power until he was captured. And he had PTSD so hearing that Russian song made him activate it, he has the excuse for that one. The rest not really but they were casualties because he was hunting his team down even though they only did it because they were tired of his abuse
@@herrsiemes7094 he didnt have any control over his new power, and why wouldnt he be disappointed in homelander?
I like how you call it toxic toughness itâs more accurate and feels less of an attack on my character lol
Thanks =)
I'm glad you clarified during this video that it's not only a male issue and the issue isn't exactly masculinity it's toxicity itself that morphs people's perceptions of masculinity
Thank you for actually watching the video and helping raise awareness on the topic of gendered labels. Appreciate you being a part of my channel
Just imagine if Soldier Boy had taken interest in the internet and what people are thinking of him. Nuclear explosions everywhere.
You are such a breath of fresh air. your "rant" about what angers you??? gave me life. thank you. I will be rewatching this. you are a bright spot Miss Georgia. thank you.
That gave me joy and brightened my heart thank you =))
@@GeorgiaDow oh goodness. wow. Thank you for being so wonderfully genuine :) it definitely translates so well.
Appreciate the content! Keep it up.
Being autistic it was more or less impossable for me to emathize with Soldier Boy, but your video did explain why. So thank you for that. There is one thing I found interesting, however, He was able to back up a lot of his claims of being tough by actually taking on multiple supes. This is something even Homelander couldn't do. This isn't do discredit your analysis, but I think does add a layer of complxity to it becoming a, "But at what cost," scenario. And this would be in the best of cases where someone is able to back up their, so called, toughness. in most cases it just destroys the person in question.
Yes I think that adds to his character and the danger involved. Though for educational purposes and teaching people what they are dealing with in maladaptive behaviours it isn't as applicable to real world scenarios. Though yes your point is taken, thanks for the comment
Homelander fought three of them. He was even overpowering Soldier Boy and Butcher.
I'll be honest, I hate the term "toxic masculinity", too often it's an attack on masculinity and men (which society seems to be attacking), always too one sided by those with woke thoughts, regardless of it's definition. Toxic toughness is a much better term imo, it's not so 'woke' (which is toxic itself). I will say though life centuries ago was tougher, so I guess the whole "toughness" thing was a way of survival (if the attitude was even a thing then).
Thanks for that so true
I do agree that the term can come across as being anti-men, but however I still think it's a good descriptor beyond its surface level misinterpretation. This pattern of behavior is something society expects of men specifically, and is intertwined with men's role in society and all issues related to gender roles. So I think at the end of the day toxic masculinity is still a fitting term.
Now I might just be an "um ackchuyally" guy but honestly last I checked that was just unironic machismo. Soldier boy is just struggling to hold up his ideal of what is macho. Of what he is supposed to represent.
Itâs definitely a real thing as is toxic femininity (Amber Heardâs a great example), but the term is thrown around so carelessly anymore that people are either having trouble taking it seriously because anything thatâs âtoo masculineâ for any particular person can labeled as toxic or they arenât taking it serious enough to the extent of ignoring the issue when itâs right in front of them. This is one of the issues with trending terms is that itâs much easier to succumb to herd mentality and collectively label entire groups of people as the same than to put in the work necessary to judge people based on individual merits. Groups certainly have their place but in todayâs modern social climate it can be frighteningly easy for someone to lose their own thoughts to the others around them.
@@GeorgiaDow That is a much appreciated consession.
I just came to see a take on Soldier Boy... i didnt expect to get faced with my own failure! Good god this hit deep. I saved it. I need to work on myself. Thank you Georgia!!!!!
I really like these videos. They shine a light on the mind and strong powerful knowledge
These videos are truely entertaining and informative, I love them.
Glad you like them! thanks !
I can actually relate to this breakdown. Some men that I've known were exactly like him.
While I was getting through adolescence I developed some of this behaviors too. But once I grew up an adult and I realized what were the root causes I was able to reconcile with my emotions and manage them to get a more satisfying and balanced way of life.
First steps first: It always starts by recognizing we got something to heal and having the will to get through that way.
Thanks for always breaking down your observation on characters in a way that we can relate and also better ourselves..
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment
This is such a powerful episode, thank you.
Your analysis are great. I love the costumes you put together.
Glad you like them! its a lot of fun
I really enjoy the representation of generational trauma and issues being passed down in the boys, MM, Butcher, Soldier Boy, Homelander and Ryan all have ties to it and its sad but very engaging
What about generational issues passed down by women?
@@charzanboo9940 You misread the comment
@@charzanboo9940this comment is abt the men of the show
@@sakareeh So you are saying generational trauma cannot be inflicted on boys by women? Why are you sexist?
@@charzanboo9940 They were referring to characters who are suffering generational trauma. The only female character in The Boys going through generational trauma that I can think of is Staright, as most of the other female characters struggle with something else.
Loved this Vid and agree on a lot of the things you pointed out. I loved the Soldier Boy character. Because he was both entertaining and represented sum of the things I avoided becoming like. Validating and understanding your emotions is very important! Although, I have to admit there was certain aspects of his character I found worthy of respecting. Like him being willing to keep his side of the deal to help kill Homelander.
this is was a really good video, loved it, hit home pretty hard.
Congrats on 100K!
Thank you!!
@@GeorgiaDow No, thank you. Your breakdowns and analysis of Arcane, in particularly the effects of childhood trauma, helped me through a difficult time.đ
I havenât cried in nearly 4 years. I remember when I would cry over my mothers death I was told to man up a lot. I didnât even cry when I lost the sight in my eye. I was sent to therapy and was diagnosed with some kind of anger issues, ptsd and depression. I used to bite my tongue hard when I felt sad because it would take away the need to cry
Great content. You come across as very thoughtful with regards to how society can influence personal mental health. I have enjoyed a lot of your breakdowns because of your open minded and relaxed approach to psychoanalysis. I've found myself along similar lines with questioning mental health implications in media; glad to have your content to further learn from!
Also, great spirit, I dig the outfits.
Thank you !! Itâs what I hope to do and help people be better at the same time., so happy you are part of my community
i am so glad this was in my recommended, i really needed to watch this
Thanks for being here
Some of the points you made in this video hit hard. Amazing analysis, as usual, probably the best take on toxic masculinity I've ever seen. Love your videos.
Wow, thank you! Made my day thank you for this
Good analysis Georgia. This brings me to why it matters so much to young men / boys to have a good father figure. My father taught me. Father's discipline while seems harsh is great way for boys to learn. I.e. take Odin and Thor...my dad was same way. He always held me accountable for my actions but let me realize and see the wisdom of his fatherly lessons. I had to come to it not with aid, but because I learned. Because real life you don't get second chances usually. As a man you learn self-reliance, but also the value of true male friendship. To ask for help when you need it, but also to strive to accomplish things on your own. You have to be grown man and deal with your poor choices. Being a man is not about being macho or even fighting, but about being responsible man, doing the right thing, being courageous in dealing with issues, facing your fears, being true to yourself and standing up for what you believe in. Treating others with respect. Seeing a person's character before anything else. Help those who are being bullied or being picked on. These are good qualities of masculinity. I think the same applies for women too as there are toxic things women do that impact their daughters.
Thank you very much for this. Very well said
Been following you for a while and still loving the content !
YAY thanks so much Ihope you continue to enjoy it as well
Loving all your videos Georgia! Deficated fan here!
Thanks =P
I absolutely love Soldier Boy, and it is 100% because of Jensen Ackles lol
Could you do a video about Guts from Berserk? He is such a great and complex character. I think that with your background you would be able to dissect his traumas better than most people.
Holy hell yes!
She would probably have to go by the golden age arch anime.
@@Skechy3603 I'd wrather her analise the Manga. But the anime would be good as well. It's pretty easy to find on youtube.
Gold!
@@brando31799 the movies are better
I was not going to watch because of the title but you surprise me, very good
I really appreciate your content. I'm getting my way through stranger things with my family and I'm eager to see your insights on those characters
Excellent analysis as always! I would love to see your take on the characters from Paper Girls. It's kinda like an all girl Stranger Things with heavy metaphorical themes about reparenting/inner child work
Oh very cool I have not watched this show yet
Great breakdown! One little thing to note -- and apologies if it's already been mentioned -- "Bennies" does not refer to benzodiazepines. That class of drug definitely does not wire you to the gills, and the first one, Librium, wasn't even discovered until 1958. "Bennies" is a colloquialism for Benzedrine, a strong amphetamine widely used and abused through the early and mid 20th century. It pops up all the time in old Burroughs and Ginsberg works. It's not made anymore, but it was essentially pharmaceutical meth.
I don't think bourbon and meth with his burger speaks any more highly of his mental stability, mind you đ
Thanks for posting. I did not realize he was referring to Benzedrine. I'm now curious if it was common at any time in history to crush the pills like he does. When I saw the scene, I just assumed it was because he wanted the altered effect but now I'm wondering if that could have also been one of the prescribed ways to consume the medication in the 1920s, 1940s, etc.
Thank you for helping me understand why I behave the way I do. I do not trust therapists but you are an exception. Thank you.
I am honoured that you trust me thank you and I wish you the best
I actually relate to this very much. Thatâs probably why heâs one of my favorite characters in the show and I hope heâs in season 4. This show is so good
At first when i got the notification for this video i saw "toxic masculinity" I was like oh man here we go a talk about how guys should be more feminine. But once again Doc you exceeded my expectations with a good reaction.
thanks so much =) I tried
My man soldier boy ainât toxic, he is a sigma
Exactly man
Thanks for sharing. Blessings on your day đđ»
Thank you! You too!
She tried to dress like Soldier Boy but ended up looking like Nightwing
Rofl !!! hahaha I did try
I think you doing analyses on characters in The Batman Animated Series would be awesome. So many psychologically deep characters that carry all too human issues. It was doing all this before The Boys, and it was considered a kid show to boot.
@The Autistic Raven I think Spectacular Spider-Man and Daredevil both deserves an analysis on its characters top to bottom
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 I am sure they do, and she can arrange moments for such based on her schedule. I was simply giving a recommendation because characters in The Batman Animated Series, such as Two Face and Mr. Freeze, show how you properly write villains in an animated series. You give them reasoning as to how they turned out that way to begin with.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 no. Daredevil is just "KiLLiNg iS BaD"
I loved the analysis! I was waiting for it since the Homelander one. Do you take suggestions? Because i would love to see your reaction and analysis on Dutch Vand der Linde from the Red Dead Redemption series, he is....a piece of work
red dead has come up a lot yes I may
@@GeorgiaDow i love all of these videos with the boys, arthur morgan would be an amazing character to analyze too
Billy Butcher ruined everything with that emotional behavior. Soldier Boy was right.
Yes , toxic soldier boy was right in the end
Soldier boy was composed in all intense situations he got the job done that's what men do, we get the job done irrespective of how we feel.
I love your analysis of characters. Can you do the fire nation royal family therapist breakdown. That would be Azula (so much to talk about there), Zuko, Ozia and Ursa. PS. You could also do Azulon and Sozin if you have time.
Also Iroh....how could I forget Iroh
No such thing as âtoxic masculinityâ
Real masculinity is beautiful and self sacrificing, bridled strength, fighting for loved ones, care/devotion and making real hard decisions and taking hits and demoralization and keep moving forward
This character represents the lack of real masculinity in a masculine body. Unbridled Strength
Solider boy is a real man. probably you are a women who doesn't understand men.
Itâs a misnomer
Well said. You can be emotional and strong no need to have to choose. Get all life has to offer and allow yourself to enjoy it
Hey⊠if you watched the video, youâd see that even the therapist says it doesnât have anything to do with masculinity
@@GeorgiaDow thank you. Didnât realize you replied. Didnât want to start an argument in your comments sectionâŠ.
Soldier Boy is based
Strange as it sounds, dealing with constant high stress situations is far easier than confronting the PTSD that it comes with.
When you deal with convicts trying to shank you or fellow officers is par for the course, when you're on alert 100% for hours at a time it's hard to wind down from the mentality.
I actually love your videos so very much. đâ€
aww thanks
I really like calling it Toxic Toughness, as that's what it really is.
The ironic thing about soldier boy that he wants to have family too, it's visible that he actually wants to accept Homelander, but he can't, because of this limiting concept of being a manly man.
âHe doesnât have the coping mechanisms in order to deal with it AND HE DOESNâT WANT TOâ đâ€ïžâđ„
Great info. I never knew how much Soldier Boy and I have in common.
I can see from the username =))
The term 'Toxic Masculinity' has been so heavily associated w/ liberal crybaby-ism that I've completely given up on it. They're man children now, clowns, and I think the show makes 'very' clear that Soldierboy is just as much an actor for masculinity as Homelander is for virtue. He simply likes the aesthetic of being tough without doing anything he thinks gets him there, when in reality he is heavily traumatized by his own abusive father's neglect.
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Nicely said
This is one of the better takes on this channel.
Yes. Thank you
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Black Panther Movie
-TâChalla: Heroic Masculinity
-Eric Killmonger: Toxic Machismo
One facet of this video I found interesting was the notion of cutting out emotions leading to you not recognizing your needs. Possibly and over share but throughout my childhood I was given both overt and subtle messages my feelings or wants were a problem or not a priority. While I did have a period of immense apathy I recognize why I'm like this, and what my needs and wants are. However even the councilor I briefly saw said that while I cognitively have a great grasp of what's wrong and why I think the way I do. Even he was baffled how to get my emotional awareness or even emotions at all to the same level. Don't know if that is common, sign of a larger issue, etc. Just thought I'd share.
The cause being overt and subtle messages is very common. It is how we unconsciously learn what is expected of us and how to behave. This is why many people are missing out on their emotions and what their needs on. There are techniques which can help you get both on the same level but it does take a certain amount of work and effort but it is really worth it in the end. I am happy you are out of apathy it is a really horrible feeling
@@GeorgiaDow yeah, wish it had not come via the breakdown from realizing just how much I'd become like my own abuser. However I'm deeply grateful that I woke up earlier in my life, at the very least it prevented me from continuing such behaviors.
I appreciate you making this video. It gave me a bit of insight on why I truly felt for Soldier Boy as a character even though to the naked eye he seems like such a cruel and selfish individual. The environment I grew up normalized toxic masculinity. To not show emotions, to not ask for help, to avoid allowing anyone to know you completely because of that feeling of weakness and vulnerability. It took me years, about 27 years old and I am now 32 years old, for me to actually allow myself to not see things so black and white, and understand that the the things I saw as "weak" were part of being human. And in all honesty, it took a kind hearted woman I was dating to help me see that. If she didn't hate or betray him, I think Crimson Countess would have done the same for Soldier Boy.
Crimson countess probably wouldn't have because like most Supes her morality is warped by her own power.
@Gus Mackenzie True, but that's up for speculation. I mean, look at what she turned out to be even after Soldier Boy's capture. Not much of a threat to people or anything close to the more modernized Supes we see. I don't think she's inherently evil, or evil at all.
The one thing that struck me in the exchange between Homelander and Soldier Boy was the âbut Iâm you.â âI know. A disappointment.â
Maybe Iâm giving a benefit of the doubt because I like Jensen Ackles, but to me it seemed like in that moment there was a degree of self awareness by Soldier Boy, that he was disappointed in himself and that his son became like him. It doesnât change that he is a reprehensible person, but it seemed like a moment of clarity, even if he took the low road from it rather than the high one
projection and yes I think you are right
Isn't that most father's fear though? That their son's will turn out just like them instead of better? :/
@@michaelriddick7116 if theyâre not happy with who they themselves are, I think so. I genuinely had the impression that Soldier Boy might have made a decent dad because he seemed determined not to repeat the mistakes of his father, and thought that was why he reacted so negatively with Homelander once he believed it was already too late (otherwise why bother reaching out in the first place?). Of course, his negativity led him to conclude it was too late, and so still handled it wrong. Though again, I fully admit that liking the actor (Supernatural fan) might be causing me to give the character benefits of the doubt he doesnât deserve
Please do breakdowns of the characters from the show Daredevil. Especially in Season 3, I feel the characters all have so much nuance and itâs really interesting to see how many of them progress through the run of the show
Thank you for properly taking the time to break this phenomenon down and eloquently and accurately illustrate the concept and factors involved. Unfortunately the phrase is often weaponized politically to substitute for arguments. Understanding what this condition is, is paramount for a healthy mind, particularly in men. To better understand the pressures that society and peers will put on you. It really seems like a malicious corruption of stoicism which with the right attitude can be helpful in trying times.
Thank you for taking the time to let me know what you liked about the video and give concrete reasons why. Helps me make sure I do more videos which are similar
Some of his behaviors/dynamics may be toxic, but at least he is very masculine, which makes him one of my favorite movie characters at all. Especially in current times, where masculinity is declining, unfortunately.
@@zomberkay My statement refers to all westernized countries, including the US. Also e.g. japan for sure. But in some muslim countries the majority of men may still be quite masculine.
It's paradoxical that Homelander (who did some of the worst things, even worse than the ones Soldier Boy did) knows what he wants in terms of his feelings, while Soldier Boy doesn't, he just represses that part with alcohol and drugs.
It is a good rant. As I had to explain to a friend that toxic masculinity does not say masculinity is toxic. It is the same as toxic waste or toxic chemicals.
Good point on the fact that it hurts them as well as the people around them.
Well, it does though.
You are the first therapist I have ever seen that said it is okay if you are not a ball of emotion all the time. If every therapist just says you are toxic and broken if you do not break down and cry all the time, it makes it rather hard to seek help if you need it. As you said, as long as you are not cutting out a piece of yourself or denying what you truly feel, being stoic is not a negative thing. Oh, and I much prefer the term Toxic Toughness. That term really describes the issue far better as well as removing the sexist stigma, allowing woman to accept and seek help if they notice this issue within themselves.
Thanks I am happy you enjoyed the video and watched it all the way through. I hope it helps others be more of themselves and live happier lives. Thanks for being a part of of my community
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Maybe it's overanalyzing, but I think it's interesting that in the scene between Dean Winch... I mean Soldier Boy ( ;) ) and Homelander, when Homelander says "what do you mean weak? I'm you" and Soldier Boy doesn't say "no, you're not" or "you're weaker" or anything like that. He says "I know" and then adds Homelander is a disappointment. But that "I know" feels like deep down Soldier Boy knows there's something wrong with him, maybe he sees everything that was wrong with him, within Homelander. "I'm you" "I know, you're a disappointment". It has vibes of Spider-Man-Tony Stark "I wanted to be like you" "And I wanted you to be better".
But I don't know, maybe I'm reading too much. But the choice of words in that scene was interesting.
Great catch
I love how they handled his character in the show
He acted it perfectly
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I think people confuse not feeling emotions and not letting your emotions rule over your actions.
I actually went through the inverse problem. Throughout school I was told how I should be feeling and in touch with my emotions, but as I grew older, I was better able to keep them in check. I thought something was wrong with me. But this control is a byproduct of maturity, age, and also somewhat being a man.
I have an easier time keeping a cool head than some other man and most women when shit hits the fan. Doesnât mean I donât feel the emotions. It just means I prefer to be a steady rock for everyone to hold on to instead of adding to the chaos.
Notice how she doesn't respond to this comment.
Impressive. Very nice. Where is the video on toxic femininity?
Great video. I love The Boys and your costume is awesome btw
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Your point about the effects of toxic masculinity made me remember Cinema Therapy, that the therapist (I'm horrible with names so I don't remember his name) said that he likes to use the expression "limiting masculinity", exactly because of those effects it has on the person.
Solider Boy's the perfect example of a realistic hero...XD
Soldier boy is the GOAT, I inspire to be manly like him, no bs straight to point, present in the moment, taking out traitors, living the life.
Beating up allies for perceived slights, indulging in vices, hurting kids...
King
@@traiascacodreanu4553 never listen to what people say only what they do, they will say he is toxic and then also follow him and find him attractive.
Facts. he IS a real man đ its to the point where being a real man nowadays is toxic
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Thank you. Youâre really good.
Great video đ„been looking for a how to be like soldier boy tutorial
hheheh
If you were my therapist and you used the term "toxic masculinity" in one of the sessions I would ask for a different therapist. The term has been misused and weaponized too much. I feel great anger when I hear that term.
Its too funny when people comment without watching a video.
@@GeorgiaDow Watched most of the video. Not a very mature response from you. Doesn't explain or add anything to my comment.
I did not expect a snarky comment like this from you. You present yourself as a therapist, I would have expected a more open and questioning response to my statement to help clear up my mind.
Presenting yourself as a therapist and talking about very troubling topics is a lot of responsibility which get a lot of varied responses from people with each their own triggers. Even if I didn't watch the video, I don't feel like I would be at fault for not watching it and emotionally typed away a comment to voice my frustration as the topics are so loaded and its easy to click off a video than a 1-on-1 conversation.
I am sure you are undoubtedly upset to see a comment misinterpret or not pay attention to your video that you put a lot of effort in creating but you cant bite into comments like this as a therapist.
@@FlimmertjeThatâs because therapists are bs
I like the costumes Georgia wears when she talks about The Boys.
thank you =) i tried
the episode Soldier boy appeared , he instantly became my Favorite Character..
Helps me understand in the end why he rejects his son because he sees his attention seeking as weakness, like he is projecting how his own dad talked down to him of not being good enough.
Very well said