Evil Versions of the 16 Personalities
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As even a more social INTJ, I can say it feels good to put say a friend in a leadership position and then “pull the strings” to get what you want in a school scenario, so I can see Palpatine being an INTJ now. It’s so accurate I can’t imagine him as anything but a sociopathic INTJ.
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I only assume leadership positions if i deem that no one else is competent or action-oriented enough to move the group. If someone i trust can be the leader instead, then i'm more than happy to step back and just make my influence through that person👍. Just tell the team what to do by telling the leader what to do lmao
Well I did the same as an INFJ
Ahh smells like you've mistyped yourself my friend. Seeing as how you've portrayed your self as batman, you should take the advice of Mr Love Who here.
Same, I only take charge if it doesn't meet my timetable or I know it's never gonna be done.
Eren Yeager from Attack on Titan (who is an ISFP) actually fits the ISFP archetype perfectly 13:30 😳 "Being so obsessed with their feelings that they'll tear everything down with that rage." Eren seeking freedom at such a high cost.
depends whether you read the manga or not, and if you believe we haven't seen everything Isayama planned for Eren... but your right in general
@@napoleon9914 I don't think there's much of a anime / manga difference in regards of this.. he's been like this forever
@@napoleon9914 whats abput to happen then - he's pushin p rn
@@napoleon9914 Nah manga ending is a comedy we ignore that.
Lets goooo spot on
I fully agree with the INTP part. I don't think that we'll specifically hate humanity, it's just that our boundless curiosity can sometimes overtake our love for humanity (which you could call our "Human" side), leading to a very morbid curiosity.
What is the love for humanity specifically...
@@tonkinthehanoian1843 I guess a part of us that for some reason says, "You shouldn't do this". It's the part of use that has been tamed, but not only that, it makes us act "Kind" so that we can recieve love and care.
@@tonkinthehanoian1843 FE inferior is the most caring of all, especially when it becomes inspirational.
whenever i talk about the future of humanity, and the road we are heading on right now i can become quite emotional, and saddened with the path we walk now as a collective.
Its a deeply rooted love for humanity as a whole.
especially for the greatest individuals among us it makes it worthy to care about humanity, for me atleast.
Nah, f people.
I guess our villain example would be Homunculus of FMAB. (Please read or watch this anime)...click Read More for the spoilers
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He cast aside he's seven sins to detached from his humanity. That made him a god eventually, but then humiliated immediately by humans and truth himself.
Here are the time stamps since I haven’t seen any yet^^
ESTP 0:44
ISTP 2:33
INFJ 3:57
ENFJ 5:12
ENTP 6:19
👑INTP👑 7:52
ISFJ 9:01
ESFJ 10:01
ENTJ 11:01
INTJ 12:05
ISFP 13:30
ESFP 14:30
ENFP 15:41
INFP 17:05
ISTJ 18:16
ESTJ 19:38
Thank you 🙏🙏
and we thank you for that.
Ohhh yeah I love how you put crowns around INTP ;p
As an INTP, I agree.
Thank you!!!!!
INFP - Yes. We are able to justify our "evil" actions exceptionally well when our values are attacked.
that’s also why you quote the word evil, because deep down you think that you haven’t done anything wrong when it comes to personal values.
@@mocha6315 Or because "evil" is a strong word that can only be applied to a fairly small number of things unequivocally - things that few of us would ever do. Most questionable actions are in more of a gray area.
@@mocha6315 ooh fightt
@@multitudesreplyaccount3163 I mean laziness and greediness is considered evil and most people are guilty of that??
@@tahsina.c Considered evil by whom? Religion? I sure don't consider laziness 'evil' (or even greed necessarily), nor do I know of anyone who does. Within the rigid and sometimes draconian rulesets of things like religion, a lot of fairly (or entirely) harmless things can be deemed 'evil', but I'm speaking from a more everyday, common-sense perspective that isn't tied to a specific belief system.
You didn’t give an example villain for INTPS so here:
Smaug from The Hobbit. An extremely intelligent and self obsessed monster who wants nothing more than to be left entirely alone very much fits a rogue INTP
Shigaraki from my hero academia too
@@Haha-Jim I agree
I'm not exactly sure what Smaug is, but I don't think he's an INTP. Maybe an ISTP.
@@Pengalen He's a dragon in The Hobbit
@@kool4kats474 Yes, I know he's a dragon, I meant typologically, as evident by the context of my comment.
The thing about ENFPs is that we're fanatically attached to our morals and values, and have an undying sense of perseverance and determination. This can make for incredible heroes or terrifying villains depending on what exactly those values are.
I had an ENFP friend, And you sound exactly like him. I was the ENFJ and unfortunately, his convictions were too strong aka he was the villain in my story and the martyr in his... RIP Vald. I miss you buddy.
@@nolanpolansky What happened to him?
@@dominator8245 He died in Ukraine a week ago. jk I don't know seriously .. but not my problem anymore.
@@dominator8245 UPDATE: he’s alive and well. for now.
@@nolanpolansky LOLLL that joke killed me. I had such an emotional reaction to him dying in Ukraine. F u lol
Fictional villains:
- ENTJs: god complexed individuals with an immeasurable ambition and lust for power
- INTJs: dark schemers whose plans have deceived everybody into blindly falling into their trap
- ESTPs: sadistic psychopaths who enjoy torturing innocents
- ESTJs: selfish and greedy individuals that violently abuse of their authority
Real life villains:
- ENTJs: dictators
- INTJs: multinational corporations leaders
- ESTPs: bullies
- ESTJs: your angryass boss
The real life villains is honestly accurate lmaooo
Yeeeeesss👏
As an ENTP I will confirm that an evil jester is both a fictional and real ENTP villain. And yes, we do wear the hats
I wanna know how estp feel about the real life villains
INFP: the nice guys
As an INTP, sometimes I 100% agree with agent Smith from the Matrix about the human race. We are humanists and thinking about the people in the problems - until we think the people ARE the problem...
Viktor from Arcane and LoL, we may not see it yet or we did. That once he go full robot, then we'll see that people are the problem. The Glorious Evolution.
My close friend INTP is isolated from people, because he can see too many narcissists. He spots them from the first sight. I usually couldn’t, (I will become a fool cult leader)and many times proved he is right. Most his close friends are NFs. Children and animals often loves him. Street cats often follows him, he will take care of them if he can. And his dark project is playing switch games and making dictionaries.🤣🤣🤣
I am an INTP, being able to see people's personalities is a damn curse. I distance myself from people whom I spot red flags from and unfortunately some of those people are teachers in my school, which causes them to hate me. I wish I wasn't an INTP.
@@alaric8220 My INTP friend has the same problem, a lot of times are people in charge who can be hard to deal with. When you distant yourself from people(especially narcissists), they feel very unsafe that they can’t control you. Some of them even think you might hate them.
He is trying to make it less obvious now to make his own life easier.
But I believe you will use your wisdom to make peace with this “curse”, use it to protect yourself and the people you love.😊
INFP here: aside from unjust wrongdoing and hurting the ones close to me, even more so „Weltschmerz“ and the unjust world as a whole have the ability to tickle the dark side within me. I notice myself become apathetic, antisocial and cynical with a wish to clear the board fully and thoroughly to shut everyone up at once. So „destroyer of worlds“ would be a good brand for me I think
You are not alone...courage brother/sister...remember that Sweeney and Phantom,loved 'till death their loved ones...please,for their memory's sake,don't end up like them,none of us🖤🕊
Reminds me of the Scarlet Witch
Same xd
I think Johan Liebert from "Monster" is a masterclass of showcasing what an "evil" infj looks like. Would definitely recommend reading it to anyone who loves psychological thrillers. Great video.
he was the first who came to my mind, what a great character
Please don't forget the "OG INFJ villain," Adolf Hitler 😂
Johan is my favorite antagonist and he is the perfect evil genius of an INFJ.
@@NoraTheCreator117 i want to forget tbh. Mostly cuz he's not even an infj.
Johan Libert is my favorite character in anime.
Infj here, Japanese anime and manga lover. When years ago (before knowing anything about MBTI) for fun with my friends we played the villains in role play games I always chose one between two of my favorite villains in anime and manga series. They both have the same nickname: "Puppet master"...
Great video. As an INFJ myself, I could see an INFJ villain who is getting revenge. An extreme vigilante. And, we have very strong morals and values. If I see an injustice, I feel like I have to stand up. I try to be a good person always with great integrity. Sometimes I can be a little self-righteous. I could see an INFJ Villain thinking they are doing what's right and truly thinking they are making the world a better place, but they are misguided and are actually doing great evil. I know this is an overused example, but it is the only one I could think of off the top of my head; Hitler. He did very evil things, but in his mind, he truly believed what he was doing would help the world. I recognize that he is a terrible disgusting human being and am in no way condoning the monstrosities that took place in his name. Anyway, great video, just thought I would add my two cents.
Shou Tucker from Fullmetal Alchemist/Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is a wonderful (or should I say hideous) example of an evil INTP you've described. And very good at making everybody hate him. I daresay he's even more hated than the main villains of the show, and for good reasons. I won't spoil just in case, though.
That's a good point!
I think that Desty Nova from Battle Angel Alita is also a good depiction of an evil INTP/ENTP(actually, chaotic neutral with virtually no morals).
"Let's have a Family! Let's have a Daughter and maybe a Dog!"
Shou Tucker: "Why not both?"
I might be biased because I’m an INFJ, but the villain that’s the master mind, the one who whispers in a dictators ear, the one smiling as the hero’s think they beat the final boss only for them to find out what a fool the boss was, is one of my favorite types of characters. It would honestly be my role of choice in a story.
Also imagine an INFJ and an INTJ working together as villains, they would be total powerhouses.
@@nadejdabirladeanu Im sorry I didn't mean to offend. Im very sorry that all happened to you, I did not mean this dynamic is fun irl, I was speaking from a narrative standpoint in stories such as books, movies, video games etc. Again, I am sorry if I caused any offense and I hope you are doing well
It was actually an opportunity to allow myself to release it clearer that ever before like a movie plot because you were on point with the exact thing I struggled in the last 2 years. It felt nice. I didn t thing you would actually read it, but thanks for touching that point.
Arcane Jinx is indeed an ENFP. Chaos revolutionary fits this pretty well.
I agree, as an INTJ myself I would much rather have someone else be "The Face" of the operation. I love planning and running things behind the scenes, making sure an event goes off without a hitch. Troubleshooting is also something I have found quite fulfilling. I can lead in the open if I feel I must(I am good at it), but I would honestly rather not.
Your videos are always on point and so appreciated, you were also mentioned in an article I read recently about which MBTI CZcamsrs to watch, well done!
INTJ here and I feel the same way. People around me thought it was weird that I'm wasting my full potential, relegating myself in the shadows and shunning chances at being at the top most authority if possible, but I feel more in my element behind the scenes than in front. They think I lack self-esteem but that's really not it. It's just I take more pleasure in observing behind the curtain. Sometimes though when I feel there's nobody fit for a leadership position or I was assigned to it, I can perform my duties well. I just really don't seek to be the face.
Same here. I even used to say that to people in the past, I would rather be the hero from the shadows. Some one that no one knows anything about but feel the impact of my actions anyway.
@@grimreaper8834 Even though I'm no INTJ, same. Being only known for the ripple of great actions is a great dream irl. Having a great peaceful life, knowing that you're a nobody and a somebody at the same time without the crowd bothering you with unnecessary praise for the whole of your lifetime.
This is euphoria.
Yeah, I think we INTJ like the freedom the curtain provides. Once you're out there, in front of the curtain you must stay on message, and people don't want you to develop, change etc. It's exhausting. So we'll place some willing entj in front and pull the heck out of those strings from the back any way we like, meanwhile the entj thinks they're in charge the whole time lol.
INTJs are very adept at leadership positions but we don't tend to enjoy them due in part to the constant interactions it involves with others. That becomes emotionally draining and so if we can work behind the scenes it gives us the importance time and space to and for ourselves and it's quite satisfying.
I always felt like the jester/entp archetype. Having a goofy persona does not mean im not serious or thought or not grounded. I would like to be seen as who i really am, i just cant stop being so split beetween my interior and exterior world. Which is a pain Ne users face in general. Also people typing the Joker, the devil and evil scientists as ENTPs and seeing our type one sided-ly and computer minded does not help haha it rather infuriaties actual entps and not edge lords online. We are kind and love most people. We just wanna expose the stupidity of the "herb behaviour" and tease around, cuz it's fun. We are annoying cuz we love u. ~ENTP
Actually I quite like most herb behaviors. In fact, I like them all except cilantro. Cilantro can go back to the hell it spawned from as far as I’m concerned!
(Yes I know it was a typo. No it doesn’t taste like soap to me more like… death? and not just taste it’s multisensory but let’s not digress more..j
“You played right into you our hands”
INFJ Henry: “I’m sorry to interrupt you Elizabeth, if you even remember that name. But I was the imposter all along.”
Sussy baka
ESTJ sus, I saw them vent
The best example of a villain INTP for me is the Scarecrow (aka Dr. Crane), the Batman villain. I don't really need to explain how, it literally got described in this video, he's also my favorite DC character, my favorite character ever.
Oooh yes! Totally agree with both the personality analysis and that he’s the best :)
I was scrolling through the comments trying to find if anyone had mentioned that yet. It's exactly what he described so I'm surprised I had to search this long lol
Probably my favorite character too
-INTP
The INFP started on her path to villainy the day an INTJ pointed out she was late to a scheduled appointment they'd mutually agreed upon. She began to concoct an enraged and completely disorganized plan composed of 1000s of deniable micro-annoyances to put him in his place.
Yikes! Being on time is about respect of the other person. Perhaps it's best the intj seeks others who respects them and their time.
@@grazynawolska8160 Thanks, Grazyna!
Little did she know that that was his intention, so he can manipulate their mutual friends against her!
"I'll execute my plans to take over the world, once I stop procrastinating."
"Don't worry, I'll get there, eventually."
INTP
As an ISFP, I can confirm this.
I hate getting into confrontations, but if someone killed someone I deeply like, I would hunt them down till' the end of the world.
"Dangerous Dreamer/ *Crusader* "
Me as an INFP looking at this with my pfp and Username fitting like a glove
But adding onto that confusion, there's an archetype in fiction called "Paragons" who's all good in mind and soul, pretty much just good incarnate, they're stubborn to their beliefs and will defend it no matter what.
Now how does this connect with villainy or heck even infps? Because of this "belief" it's personal, malleable, and that thing you said about them being crusaders thinking they're doing horrid deeds for a "good cause" fits not only the paragon archetype (Which is used like this at times as well) but your explanation as well because they'll hold onto that firm belief of what's "right and wrong" until the very end, rarely doubting it at all
LOL
I'm very impressed how you portrayed INFP, and I agree. Honestly INFP when they arr triggered to act or think in any negative way is probably the scariest thing. And as an INFP I know my mind, so yes it can get bad, also more scary cuz all can happen in our minds, and we'll stay indifferent outwardly, or be very detailed in thinking so. You just don't wanna mess with an INFP. The phantom and Kylo Ren are really great example. But yes in the end our hope and natural qualities will win over evil on most case, but if that positive environment is not given then, it might not but that's true for every individual
Jinx was a good call out on the ENFP section and she's clearly an FP type but I'm not sure of her full type. I'll need to rewatch it
Interesting how it's classified by families.
The Evil version or paradox of every human is : I like people but I don't like them.
I think the deep desire of every personality type, is they want everyone to be like them.
When I think of a villainous INTP, I'd assume them to be because of their Super Ego (ISFP). With that in mind, I think it would make more sense for them to be a real agent of actual chaos or a Sociopathic Serial Killer. The Joker from the Joker movie is the best example of an INTP in there super ego. However, there are also characters like Moriarty from the live action Sherlock series, as well as Dexter Morgan.
The Dark Knight's version of Joker would be the best example of an ENTP in their Super Ego (ESFP), not just as an agent of chaos, but as a Psychopathic Terrorist, having something to prove to the world. Both the INTPs and ENTPs would be pretty similar and difficult to tell appart regardless. They share the same cognitive functions. The order might be a little different, but not so much so that they become noticeably different.
I belive the ISFP, on the other hand, would be much more willing to become a Mad Scientist or Machiavellist Avenger due to their Super Ego (INTP). One example that comes to mind is Mr Victor Freeze.
so...
(attack on titan and naruto spoilers)
ESTP - who first came into my mind was Hidan from Naruto, he perfectly fits that description of a "psychopath" that enjoys the moment. Also, Billy Hargrove from Stranger Things
ISTP - the assassin that gets the work done, Annie from AoT. Also the Winter Soldier, but he was brainwashed so i don't really like calling him a villain.
INFJ - Loki, an incredible villain and one of the most interesting INFJ characters. And Itachi from Naruto, but, well, a lot of people from this list aren't completely "evil"
ENFJ - Willy Tybur. Also Oikawa Tooru from Haikyuu, not a villain, but an antagonist, and a brilliant one.
ENTP - oh the entps, they are so entertaining as villains :D Orochimaru from Naruto, BBC's Moriarty, Agatha Harkness from MCU, Joker.
INTP - Kabuto from Naruto, Zeke from AoT, Hank Pym from MCU's What If. truly the mad scientists / the outsiders.
ISFJ - lmao the "kill them with kindness" is so accurate 😭 Bertholdt from AoT, Haku and Kimimaro from Naruto (naruto has so many great and unique villains woah)
ESFJ - REINER. from AoT. my goodness he is sooo great. he suits your description perfectly
ENTJ - Madara Uchiha.
INTJ - Thanos (his villainous Ni-Te-Fi is _so clear_ ). Baron Zemo from MCU. Snape (might be istj), Voldemort (might be entj idk). Sasuke Uchiha, even tho he doesn't quite suit the stereotype, he is the immature, traumatized, teenage INTJ, in the grip of his Fi.
ISFP - oh the iconic Eren Jaeger, the best isfp villain imo. that unhealthy dominant Fi is truly something else. Also Karli Morgenthau from MCU.
ESFP - Eric Killmonger from MCU, such a cool esfp villain. Gabi Braun from AoT, she is obviously not a villain, just has an antagonist role, (and, well, it's AoT, they are not black and white), but she is definitely one of the best written ESFPs ever. Bellatrix Lestrange. Harry Osborn. Deidara from Naruto, he is very fun to watch.
ENFP - Obito Uchiha, definitely one of the best enfp villains out there.
INFP - Nagato from Naruto, I don't think there is need to explain how brilliant of a villain he is. Gaara from Naruto. Wanda Maximoff, tho i really don't like calling her a villain, she isn't one imo, she is an antihero, she is definitely one of the complex, morally grey INFP characters.
ESTJ - John Walker from MCU, i _really_ love him as a character, he is a great villain/antagonist.
ISTJ - (eternals spoilers!)
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Ikaris is a well written, interesting ISTJ villain.
You definitely had only 2 anime in your watchlist back when you commented this
@@quandaIedingIe yeah I've watched at the time around 15 animes but to be fair aot and naruto were my faves with my fave characters 😅
As an INTJ: HAHAHAHAHAHA. YOU FOOLS. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG AND YOU PLAYED RIGHT INTO MY PLANS.
Oh um I mean this video was relatable and contrary to the stereotype, not all INTJs are supervillians. Some of us are just regular villians.
sounds like me even tho the tests says im a INFJ lmao
This is amazing! Coincidentally this is exactly what I've been thinking about while working :D keep up the great work and wonderful content, good sir Mr. Nathan. Your videos really brighten up many peoples day, including mine :)
A classic INTP mad scientist is Shou Tucker from FMA. You know, the dog girl meme that scarred every weeaboo's childhood and possibly adulthood.
INTP.- Mad scientist/outsider. That's pretty accurate and I regret nothing.
You are so well-spoken, it is always a pleasure to listen to your musings on the types. I finally caved in and subscribed, haha.
Nice analogies. Good job! I want a video with "good versions of 16 personalities" too. Appreciate your work! 💯😎
You know, I honestly never really saw that as a villainous trait until how it was referenced. I absolutely do tend to have strings attached to some that are in high-ranking positions since I'm a bit more social in some aspects as a very outspoken reptile educator. I've never used those strings in a nefarious way. Just on rare occasions, to gain intel or maybe a cool little perk from their position that they can give me, but only if I've done a lot for them beforehand (If they asked me to). I'm usually not one to ask for really anything since I love to spoil those I find worthy as far as humans go. And I can be fiercely loyal to those 2-3 individuals. But I generally just prefer information and loyalty in return. I suppose it depends on how that skill set is used lol. -INTJ-A female.
Freaking amazing insights as always. Thank you! 🌷
Infj is totally *Loki*
Not only can Loki manipulate people into thinking what he wants them to believe, but he also has a genuine power to manipulate the emotions of others. It's perfect for situations in which talking just won't get the job done.
*He makes a good example of an unhealthy INFJ or an INFJ gone bad*
the thing is people believe that infjs are the only best type with manipulative skills they are the people who don't have that much of a experience in manipulation
There are also many types who are masters in manipulation my personal experience in getting manipulated is honestly alot people who manipulated me are intps,entps,isfj & the most infjs I met are the wiser and understanding so I don't think infjs are master in manipulation by nature;
And I also think loki is an intp because his (ti) strategies , self-righteous
And selfishness clearly
And he has his own framework of truth tells he is an ti Dom
And his ne how careless he was
And his fe thinks he's the best and trying to prove his power intelligence and more and also his fe manipulation
And the si he is holding grudges on past experience
@@burganisha4228 Lowkey is Lowkey terrible at manipulating
@@burganisha4228 Loki is not an INTP. He is Ni dominant type. What you see from his Ti is in support of his dominant Ni function. Ni is actually strategy - oriented. Ti is logic, what makes sense, how does something fit into the framework,... Ni is ideas. And almost everything can be reduced to an idea and can be later connected to a different one in building something new. Think of it as the ability to synthesize ideas.
@@burganisha4228 infjs are so good at manipulating that you won't be able to catch them in the first place
But infjs are rare, and them justifying something like manipulation is also very unlikely.
@@burganisha4228 infjs can manipulate easily and effortlessly. Even unhealthy infjs can manipulate you into making you think their innocent and understanding while they're spitting bs at ur back. U won't know until u witness it.
As a close friend of several ENTP’s I can say that his description of us is very accurate though I will say Moriarty was also an ENTP so there’s that side to our villain as well we can also very easily fit into any and all of these categories sometimes better then the other types there kinda the most evil type and have the easiest time being evil
Really love quality and precision of your analysis. Thank you!
Batman villains are great for showing almost every type in the evil version
INTJ - Scarecrow
INTP - Riddler
ENTJ - Penguin
ENTP - Joker
INFJ - Ra's Al Ghul
ENFP - The Mad Hatter
ISFJ - Mr. Freeze
ESTJ - Two-Face
ISTP - Bane
ESTP - Catwoman
ISFP - Poison Ivy
ESFP - Harley Quinn
Thanks for reminding Riddler. I remember how I jokingly said to my friends that I'll give puzzles to everyone if I became a serial killer....and voila! We have the Riddler!
13:30
ISFP
The revenger / Eren Jaeger
haha lol
INFP here, I've thought about this topic before and had also picked out Phantom of the Opera as an infp villain! that's kind of amazing
How about the beast in Beauty and the beast?
@@angelicatrino2498 not in my opinion. Belle could be infp though
@@angelicatrino2498 No because after all, he became a beast AFTER he denied hospitality to an old lady...
@@nathalie_desrosiers good point.
@@otheusrex2190 Hmm, yeah. She still saw something good from the beast. She kept an open mind and was ready to accept him. And she was willing to sacrifice for her father's sake. Very INFP trait. Could part of it be Stockholm syndrome too?
Being able to bring the Phantom of the Opera into you're framework was truly genius.
I'm an ENFP volunteering at the Ukranian border right now! I went to visit some family in Romania a few days ago, met up with some random ESTP (the most ESTP ESTP i've ever met in my life, it's wild) and, next thing I know, i'm on the border working with the romanian military to process refugees, while chatting with the senator and a famous Romanian general in my spare time. I'm literally typing this from the floor of a monastery where I'm staying with a bunch of refugees. This whole experience has been pretty life-changing, but it's apparently not even on the top 10 list of craziest things my new ESTP friend has done. What a week!
Stay safe!
Be safe! Yep! ESTP can run at the world 1mil miles a minute!
Stay safe y'all im praying for everybody's safety
Thank you so much for your service.
Take care,we pray for you💖🇬🇷🇪🇺🌍
such a good video! thank you
Insightful analysis as always Nathan. Another interesting ESTJ villain is general Zod from Man of Steel. I find his character fascinating. He is motivated by the desire and duty to re-establish his people on a new planet, which in itself is a noble cause, but he is willing to kill billions of humans in the process. No amount of protest from Superman or from Zod's potential victims will deter him from this single-minded objective. In my own experience, when an ESTJ (an unhealthy one) thinks what they're doing is the right course of action, they won't stop for any reason, seeing it as "you have to be cruel to be kind".
I also think that Loki from the first Thor movie is a good example of an evil INFJ. He is able to manipulate those around him using his Fe, and he uses his Ni and Ti to put a carefully crafted and ingenious plan in place to destroy his enemies and claim his throne, but even more importantly, to buy his father's love and approval. That's what *really* motivates him. Note that I am only talking about Loki the first movie. His character doesn't always fit INFJ in subsequent MCU films.
Always fun to watch your videos, so much so that my youtube algorithm recognizes that and always puts your videos first.
I just cannot get enough of his videos! You are the best out there!
Love this!
I had an idea a bit ago for a tv show depicting a world in which we knew everybody's type and how it would change the way we interact with each other as a society. I love the anime fruits basket for a similar reason. In the show they talk about the Chinese zodiac and how it's a big deal when it come to relationships. Villains in this world would also be interesting especially an entp because they would simply be humored by the chaos of taking down the viewpoints of people. Adding an element of segregation between all of the types would be really interesting too. It would challenge all of the types to try understanding each other. -Enfj :)
Great minds may indeed think alike. My first thoughts for many of the character examples you gave were the ones you mentioned.
Wow this actually made me feel sick. Really good video regardless💕✨
It's remarkable when two characters on opposing sides share a similar MBTI, like Avatars Aang(ENFP) and Prince Zuko(INFP), the same type such as Danny Phantom's sister and archnemesis(both ENFJ) or even the same character as both a hero and villain such as Kevin Levin(ESTP) of the Ben 10 franchise
Also for an ESFJ villain is the twist villain of Zootopia
Also I 100% agree with the ENFP analysis
You think Zuko is an INFP? As one myself, I'm flattered! I've heard him characterized as an ISTJ, which makes more sense to me
@@slamislife74 He's an INFP in a Fi-Si loop throughout S1, S2 is when he starts breaking out of it only to fall back in the first part of S3
@@nitzan3782 nel. He's ISFP; Fi-Ni fits better than Fi-Si. Also he doesn't use Ne, not in any second. He struggles quite a lot when reflecting and trying to have philosophical thoughts.
Hi Nathan. I like your idea of a story which highlights the moral ambiguity of order (ISTJ) vs chaos (ENFP). Could make it two character arcs about how they come to see the error of their ways (personality type), but it all being too late since everything has already been set in motion.
I might write that story! ^^
Great video! Now do one about what sort of hero each type would be like please.
Dang. I'm in Sphocles "Electra" right now at my university, and the description of the ISFP revenger sounds exactly like her. She's not exactly a villian, this is Greek theatre so the idea of hero and villian were different, but it still fits her perfetly.
I would say that Thanos in the MCU is another exemplary INTJ villain. I relate to him more than Palpatine because he's far more principled and true to his word. He also showcases the characteristic INTJ behaviours and thought patterns:
He has an extremely ambitious and overarching vision for the world, and sees himself as one of- if not the only person with the will and foresight capable enough to ultimately follow through with it and choose correctly (taking on a leadership role as he essentially feels called upon it by the Universe as opposed to wanting it for its own sake). His life revolves around it and he is willing to sacrifice much for it, with every action he takes being seen through the lens of this grand plan. His consistently calm demeanor is that of someone who has pondered abstractions for a long time, is convinced of his conclusion, and has both foreseen and carefully planned for the outcome that he strives for. His character and story is like the misguided counterpart of Batman/Bruce Wayne (at least in the Dark Knight Trilogy) in many ways, except grander in scope.
Thanos is an entj
@@vivinjohn1792 I disagree.
Thanos isn't an NTJ. He's an INTP.
@@duckbacon3117 I disagree.
@@duckbacon3117 yea he feels like an intp to me
I noticed some throwbacks to your "16 Personalities - Most Likely to be a Criminal" video. For example you used "moral crusade" to describe INFP. That's nice
Great video! Funny. I always thought Jinx was an ISTP . She has no ideology, she does not care about revolution. She is literally an assassin (for Silco), a master at her craft. She could also be an ISFP since her primary motivation is revenge. Also, she is definitely an I, not an E.
Amazing thumbnail.
I enjoyed the video, good star wars references they fit the archetype very well.
I'm an INTP and I fantasise about a lot of things that I should write down into a story; I've never thought that I would be a sort of scientist but there is a general mechanism in my creation characteristics is to push beyond their limits and this might let them defies temporary humanitarian values and overlook the value of individuals.
As an INTJ, I can absolutely understand these points with utmost relatability.
I'm constantly academically seeking, and I prefer letting leadership roles to others while I'm proudly doing the work *I want to do* . MBTI tests say I'm an outgoing person for an INTJ, some tests even placing me as ENTJ. But let's just say, I don't care. They're close enough. It feels good to know I'm the same personality type as some of my absolute favorite heroes and villains. (Looking at you, Moriarty and Batman.)
Oh, also amazing video. *Liked *Subscribed *bell on *shared.
It's not surprising that INTPs aren't frequently villains. Being childlike and generally unmotivated doesn't really lend itself to villainy.
Max Weber and Albert Speer are good examples of the INTP villains. They were the super-effective and detached tools of truly evil masterminds.
Speer worked for the Nazis, but I don't see how Max Weber can be categorised as being distinctly villainous. Some of his opinions were controversial, sure, but he didn't work for any big bad daddy and did not try to directly harm people
@@swahamchakraborty7990 Sociology is being used as a weapons against humanity. He helped create a tool that's used to make billions are manipulated, exploited, and subjugated to powerful interests.
Also, I may have been drunk and meant to say Friedrich Engels.... 😅
@@unnecessaryapostrophe4047 Still, Engels cannot be termed as villainous. Marx and Engels were not responsible for the policies of the Bolsheviks. We cannot hold Nietzsche responsible for how the Nazis interpreted his works. And if I may, since physics resulted in the creation of the atomic bomb, are we to hold Newton at fault for that since he propagated the field? Apply the same analogy to sociology and Engels. Sociology can create justifications for unethical acts, while the physical sciences can craft weapons capable of decimating cities. Both sociology and science try to tell us something about the world, and both can be weaponized and subjugated to the "powerful interests", which were not only the Bolsheviks, but are today's big businessmen too. So I would say Marxist analysis even helps us in understanding such things.
@@unnecessaryapostrophe4047 On another note, Engels may have been ENTP rather than INTP
@@swahamchakraborty7990 I disagree. I think the very concept of communism is evil. It's anti-human.
What about doing a video about stereotype vs reality for the types?
yeah i'd love to see that
Things you say about infjs doesn't make me want to believe that I am an infj.
I still to this day don't believe im an Infj.
The only INTP antagonists that I know are characters like Zeke Yeager and Ulquiorra (outsiders) ... they are never truly evil, most of the time they had some fcked up history and do what they think they should according to their subjective data.
Kylo ren is definitely an infp as u described. In the novels u can clearly see he really wanted to be jedi but luke held him back for fear of him turning out like anakin...and what triggered Kylo's decent into evil was when luke finally betrayed him...his illusions of the great jedi shattered ..and so he switched to the dark side where he idealised his grandfather..instead eventually thou, he was like screw both of them ...sith and jedi...imma just be me..lol
I'd like to add "Used to being right and being imposing enough to have noone dare call out your inevitable foolishness" to the ISTP list. Prime example: Putin.
I immediately thought of Neil Caffrey from White Collar when you mentioned ESFP as a Confidence Trickster before you mentioned him :) God I miss that show.
very interesting analysis, i love villians. also as an infj i'm happy it got my favorite type of villian
As an INTP who's also into superhero RPGs, I also think that an INTP villain can also be a death trap reliant character, like Marvel's Arcade or DC's Mad Mod (Teen Titans animated series).
eh enfj could’ve been more evil/grand. our Ni is stronger than you think, masterminding is very possible too, not just the typical enfj corrupt social stuff stereotype. enfjs shouldn’t be underestimated.
wow. scary.
Yeah, I'd think that INTP villains are most likely to be strongly detached, just not caring about the possible consequences of whatever pet project they are working on...or just curious to see the consequences, without having any kind of judgment which ones are morally desirable. The kind who unleashes a horde of killer robots to see what will happen, or try out if it is really possible to take over the world by a far-fetched plan they saw in a film or a comic book rather than really, you know, wanting to take over the world (The Trio in Buffy the Vampire Slayer are extremely stereotypical INTP villains).
Because most often they really are detached from any immediate consequences.
This also means that they are the villains most easy to defuse by giving them a hug. (though "nice guy" entitlement also comes easily to INTPs...)
what about Frankenstein or the bowler-hat-guy/Goob? they seem like INTPs to me but im not sure
@@dpcubing1521 Doctor Frankenstein, yes, I'd think he is INTP: always got an impression his idea of resurrection was a project to try out mainly out of curiosity, science without moral considerations about consequences. And when the consequences show up in the way they do, he runs away. Which again sounds like an INTP reaction.
I'd think many INTPs would struggle to be an assassin type, taking the pain of studying an individual target and then proceeding to kill, because the target would probably turn out too interesting and the previous goal be put aside...though there is still a possibility of doing rat-in-a-maze with the other person, proceeding to throw experiments in their life and seeing how they manage.
Goob I don't know, I haven't seen that film.
I think something that's being missed in how intps would operate is that they could still have a sadistic streak to them on top of curiosity at the expense of others
The Riddler is probably a good example of that, but i haven't seen much of his appearances
This is a cool video ngl
Insightful. Everything turns on motives, and motives can turn on a dime. You can be in conversation and merely enjoying companionship one moment and within a matter of moments experience a shift in motives. Fear and self preservation have perhaps created the most evil in the world. People who want to be in power for the "right" reasons can go to the dark side once they experience that power. To assume that a person's baseline personality cannot shift is truly naiveté.
I wonder if the Count of Monte Cristo is an ISFP, he definitely suits the archetype of the revenger. The persona he develops as “the Count” is definitely more on the ESFP side of life, but that is just a persona.
As Edmond Dantes, I can definitely see the strong Fi in his deep personal feelings, acute sense of what he wants, and intimate nature with occasional outbursts of passion, and auxiliary Se in his immense physical prowess. Third slot Ni makes sense in him having this long-term, vast scheme to take revenge, though he seems also to have a decent enough hold of Te to execute said plan (though I suppose he could use his Se for execution as well).
I’m an ENTP, so I don’t share any of these functions and might not have the best hold on what they are and how they work, but as someone who is obsessed with Count of Monte Cristo and has read it many many times, there is my analysis of a potentially ISFP “villain” (we can have the debate as to whether or not Dantes even IS a villain another time…)
Another ALMOST villain who suits one of these archetypes could be Victor Frankenstein as an INTP “villain”, but similar to the Count^ I love him too much and understand and relate to him too well to want to call him a villain.
I suppose being sympathetic to someone’s motivations does not stop them from being in the wrong, but it does make you question the blind attribution of the word “villain” onto what is only a misguided and disturbed soul who made poor decisions.
Anyways, totally didn’t mean to write an essay there, but alas, Ne’s gotta ponder…
I need "Ne's gotta ponder" on a t-shirt 😂
@@jaimiehorton9669 haha yes!
Great list, you really nailed these archetypes! Another examples for INFJ villains imo are (---SPOILER--- for The Da Vinci Code and Batman Begins)...
...Ra’s al Ghul from Batman Begins and Sir Teabing from The Da Vinci Code.
They both have this misleading, alluring friendliness and charisma to them while also acting from behind the scenes, having some esoteric vision.
The ISFP as you describe it reminds me precisely of the Count of Monte Cristo
I've been wondering if/or about the rise in sociopathy myself, hence your "Intro". -your friendly intp.
- Jack Sparrow is an ENTP character played by an INFP actor. Not a good ESTP reference.
- A puppet master implies precision manipulation, but INFJ's influence the perspective of others.
- That was a perfectly well summarized analysis of the ENTP Joker.
- If that INTP is working on anything too unspeakable, then I'd recommend some caution.
- According to unanimous internet votes, Joe Goldberg is INFJ and nobody thinks he's ISFJ.
- Neal Caffrey is believed to be an ENTP character, not ESFP.
- Darth Vader is ISTJ not ESTJ, though Anakin is ESFP. Vegeta is your evil ESTJ of the galaxies.
- (All type validations were assessed through the personality-database, for reference).
It's the first time I hear Johnny Depp is ENFP. Always heard he's INFP.
@@nathalie_desrosiers Very well, I edited the comment. Still, I'm not the one who posted an entire video full of errors.
@@TRUEINFJ Sorry if I made you feel a negative feeling. I honestly was wondering if I was in the wrong.
Perfect👌
For any INFP’s like me looking for more examples, my personal favorite is Takuto Maruki from Persona 5 royal. He’s a psychologist who sought a world where no one would feel any emotional or physical pain ever again. A world of no suffering. But it was a projected lie created by himself so obviously the main characters fought for freedom- but he really thought what he was doing was the best for everyone. Ironically, in achieving this goal Maruki suffered the most, as he could not give happiness to the MC who he feels gave him his dream.
A good character that is a fictional ISTP is Aloy from HZD, she's an excellent example of a Hero ISTP.
As an ESTP who doesn't consider himself a psychopath, but possibly a sociopath. I can relate to being highly impulsive and always wanting to satisfy my wants/needs without fearing for the most part the consequences of these risks. Fortunately I'm logical enough to obey the law in order to stay out of prison. I'm actually pretty likable, but act and react to certain situations impulsively and aggressively
ENFP here, you just compared me to Jinx from Arcane and I have to say I am HONORED
Didn’t realize this until just now but as an INFP many of my villains fit my type.
Let’s goooo, can’t wait to find out I AM the evil version of myself already 💯😎
Edit: Hah, he mentioned Sweeney Todd this is a W. 🔥
I thought sweeney Todd was a rapper
@@infernal.. No, not unless a rapper copied that name. Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street is a popular musical that's been around since the 70's and adapted into a movie with Johnny Depp. You can look it up, if you want to know the full story, but basically dudes go in for a shave and end up in meat pies.
@@LooneyTiksCrap I actually searched him up before and saw its Johnny Depp. It's based on a true story?
@@infernal.. Not real. The movie is based on the stage musical, which was from the play, which came from a penny dreadful ("the string of pearls"). It could have had inspirations, but it was a work of fiction.
@@LooneyTiksCrap thank goodness. That would've been a messed up story
I was thinking how well ISFJs fit the yandere tropes, since yanderes are typically depicted as utterly obsessed yet loyal to one specific person (Si); Very adaptable to social norms yet completely ignore their own feelings, which is why whence they receive the "Doki-doki" love, they get easily attached and unstable (Fe); Very crafty with their way of thinking (Ti); and gets wild predictions of what'll happen to said person, so gets very protective (Ne).
And this description actually aligns with your description a lot! 'Kill them with kindness' - trapping the person into a box they never asked for.
Okay so imma add a few characters that are good representations for MBTI villains: Kisaki Tetta from Tokyo Revengers is a HUGE INTJ villain. For INTP a good example is Entrapta from She-Ra and BEFORE YOU TELL ME SHE'S NOT A VILLAIN LISTEN TO YOURSELF; her character is chaotic neutral and EXACTLY LIKE THE INTP SECTION WAS DESCRIBED (completely focused and devoted to science, not caring or noticing the impact she has on her people.) Then there's Eren Yaeger the ISFP ofc. And (SPOILERS FOR AMPHIBIA) King Andreas, a HUGE ENFJ villain who's LITERALLY SLIMY CUZ HE'S AN AMPHIBIAN THAT'S FREAKING HILARIOUS!! A good example of an ISTJ villain would be the villain from Squid Games, he's entirely devoted to 'playing fair' as he puts it and has an incredibly rigid set of rules, killing his own brother because he broke them. And side note as an ENFP Jinx is ABSOLUTELY a HUGE ENFP, personally I relate to her childhood a lot and knew exactly how she'd turn out because of it, she's a very accurately written mentally ill ENFP! (Although it's exaggerated for obvious reasons)
as an INFP, the villain i feel the most, "same here" vibes with is from Joker (2019). Arthur just feels like a broken man who just doesn't care anymore and just breaks. If i were to become a villain, it'd be like this, in fact, i actually write a lot of my villains like this (i can just pour my most painful thoughts into words through them). I also kind get this vibe from Zuko and (at times) Anakin Skywalker.
I think Vader is more of an ISTJ than an ESTJ, his SI is visble, he exist to do his job for the Emperor, he is not a people person and mostly kept to himself when he is not doing his Job a common thing for ISTJ. He is FI above NE, he is always thinking about Padme and how much pain it cost him. His TE is also strong but not above SI. He is good at giving orders if need be and does that in his job but at the end of the day he is not a people person he is a pain person. However NE grip is very apparent, fear of the thought of being replaced as apprentice so he tries to secretly kill his master on more than one occasion with very poor planning which often backfire on him
ISTJ bad guy is typical Inspector Javert from Les Miserables :D
I never find any comment for ENTJs maybe cause there are really less number of entjs as a whole, but this description matches entjs so well
Darth Maul is so evil istp it's not even funny 😂... good one Nathan
As an ENFJ-T I definitely would be a slippery politician/cult leader. I keep being told how charismatic I am 😈
Most people are villains most of the time, so this is useful.
Eren and Sasuke being ISFP makes more sense now….