I’m an INTJ. I would agree that we are the most introverted type. However, I tend to be very confident and non-caring in a lot of social interaction, particularly ones where there are no stakes involved. I suspect that a lot of INTJs are confident and assertive in speech and that confidence can give off a slightly more extroverted vibe. But, trust me when I tell you, no matter how much I seem like I enjoy the conversation (and I probably do), I’ll still never enjoy it as much as I enjoy being by myself.
Yes true, I myself am an INTJ, I would say that I only have 1 friend. There are people with whom I talk in school, but I wouldn't consider them my friend. I only enjoy conversations when people discuss Ideas, I keep silent when the conversation doesn't include any Idea or thought. Remaining times, I enjoy my own company
INTP here and same. At work I often come of as an ENTP or ENFP etc, but when I'm done working, I am the first one to run off and wave my colleagues a quick goodbye. When I drive home, I enjoy the ride and relax after a long day of work. Same goes for social interactions, such as friendships or family. As soon as I'm away from people, I come back to my INTP personality and enjoy my alone time.
INTJ here 👋 I’m VERY good at playing the extravert when needed, and have always been fairly confident + assertive. Just because we’re the “most introverted” does NOT mean we’re shy.
Yep, 100% agree. On several occasions when I’ve been in the best possible company such as with my closest friends at a large event like a festival or convention, I somehow feel more energised when it’s over and I return home, even if I genuinely found the event fun. Very odd feeling, but I’m sure other INTJs feel the same.
As an INFP, I would say that if I like someone and enjoy their company I can be with them pretty much infinitely, but if it’s someone I don’t mesh with too well I have like 30 minutes of energy before I have to retreat. Fi’s funny when it comes to this because it makes you really want to connect with people, but when you don’t feel any connection you’d rather just be on your own.
Omggg it's an infp omfgg hii hii, infp right? Omgg plsplss come relate to my life i need validation im so emotional damage pls come infp pls pls. If u wan to get down to deep business where i put in you deep id be happy cuz infpp are the best best in bed
I think that's an interesting thing that differentiates INFPs and INTPs. As an INTP even if I really like someone, I still only want to spend a limited amount of time with them. There are people whom I deeply care about, but I really only see them once a year or so and occasionally check in on them to make sure they're okay. Even when I check in, I often do so by lurking on social media.
My girlfriend is ISFJ and I’m ENTP so she’s this 👌🏻much more introverted then me. We often describe ourselves as “extrovert who hates people” and “introvert who can’t live without them”
Free advice from 9 years of that: Make sure she has and maintains her own friends. You cannot be all the kinds of friend she needs. We want to go kill the bear that upset her but she just really needs to talk about it while you only patiently listen. IKR?! But you do have the relative sociability correct. Yes.
As an INTP this is extremely accurate because my time in isolation actually surprises or scares people and they say that they would've gone mad if they were in my place. This even includes the ability to remain silent.
I chuckled when he began the INTP with "INTPs were contenders for being last on the list." and the rest was pretty spot on with how I've been living my life in the last few years.
This was the calm of Michael Collins all alone orbiting the moon with Armstrong and Aldrin on the moon This made Collins the most isolated man in modern history and he was ok with it
@@verntoews6937 Honestly, I'd be completely fine being alone in space for an entire day. I can do the duties no one has done before, look at the stars, moon, and earth, and contemplate my time, place, and being. Could I do that for months on end? No. But for a day or so? Totally.
An INFJ would understand and adore you and even help you use that alone time more effectively. They can see how you’re apparently weird habits are actually strengths. I’m an INFJ and used Nathan’s videos to find an INTP to solve my problems. He was looking for me too. We’re very happy and weird together.
I agree with ISFJs being more socially extraverted than INFJs and also less drained by social interactions. I know someone who's ISFJ and running parties etc. but can't hardly see them as an extravert, very clearly an Si dom. I'm an INFJ and nearly everyone says I'm extraverted which is not true. And I don't really like the ISFJ's parties :) Give me an ENTP for a witty and intellectual discussion instead :)
This is true in my experience. My brother is ISFJ and he throws parties with his friends, who seem to be a combination of SJs and a couple ISxPs. Also, I know several INFJs, and they are very socially selective and introverted in comparison.
You have a super understanding of the functions and how they work together in the strengths of both. Could you help me please? I’ve posted a reply that is extremely detailed but would help Nathan. I want him to see, but I don’t know how. By the way my ISFJ daughter helped me find this solution. 😂 It would bring a lot of happiness to many people. And you are amazing at that.❤
For INTJs, socialization is very important as only a small dose is needed for us to continue to productively be in our heads without getting stuck in our heads
Right. I know INTJs like to think of themselves (no offence to you - I’m talking in general terms) as the O.G.s of everything potentially-involving them (even antisocial-ness) but with Te and Se thrown in-the-stack they’re really not *that* introverted as a type and still need people to talk *at,* if not actually-with, per-se (but even at that they do have their friends). IXXPs and reserved INFJs are far-more socially-reserved. INTJs and ISTJs still need people to command/boss-around in the external realm (and in the case of the former conspiracy theories to spread). ENFPs (as I’m sure most people will agree) are half-and-half but I will say that introverted ENFPs (the ones who really bask in Fi, almost as-if it wasn’t only their auxiliary function) are more-introverted than INFJs.
@@Anonymous_Anon882 I agree in part with what you are saying, INTJs along with all other NT rationals are a bit different than other subtypes such as SPs who live in the moment, SJs who live in the past, and NFs who live in the future, NTs live in "segments" of time where like for INTJs for that matter, can get in the Ni-Fi loop/segment and go hyper-antisocial sorting through what data from the world they have on hand to eventually get out and implement a system in the external world (Te-Se). We don't need anybody to command per se, our most natural role is to be a No. 2 in an organization where our ideas (Ni) are respected by the No. 1, the vision and direction of the No. 1 aligns with our Fi, we have a clear goal to design a system around (Te), and the encouragement, support, and resources needed and provided to make it happen (Se). But yes, INTJs enjoy measuring their own potential and convincing ourselves we are the best at something without the need for external validation although it may be needed at times if we want to healthily grow
@@bradleyj7801 agreed (again). I do understand where Love Who’s coming from and most of his list is pretty-much spot-on (as I see it) but I just think it’s a fallacy to say that INTJs are the most inward-focused/socially-reticent. Compared to IXXP types and tightly-cut INFJs they’re really not.
Spot on with INFJ and ENFP's. I myself (INFJ) feel very ambiverted and like I don't fit the label Introvert or Extravert. My best friend is an ENFP and when he took the 16p test he was surprised to see he was extraverted because he enjoys spending time alone and in his head. In social situations he is always very present and comfortable but still felt like an introvert..
haha same here!, i totally agree too with your opinion, and i wonder why mostly i see INFJ and ENFP often seen together? that just very interesting hahaha
One of the most accurate descriptions of ENTJs I've come across. You literally described the trajectory of my life so far. Initially mistyped as INTJ, looked into personality psychology, started getting more comfortable in my own skin and owning both my strengths and weaknesses, then finding ways to better balance my traits. Have learned how to be rather diplomatic most of the time and can turn up the charm when I need to. Other times I can tap into my natural assertiveness (and, if needed, brutal honesty and/or harshness) to get what I want or to get things done efficiently or to put up/maintain a personal boundary. And in the last few years, my social circle has rapidly expanded, which has definitely helped my self-esteem and confidence.
INTJ here - when I saw the movie INCEPTION, I fell in love with the idea of limbo, and sinking down there for years, and coming up the next day psychologically decades older, but physically no older at all. I could live thousands of years in one lifetime! I still fantasize about it.
As an INTP, I also wish it was real. Being able to exist inside a place where the limit's your imagination for a near infinite period of time sounds like heaven.
ISTP here and I would rank us higher towards the ambivert. Speaking for myself, it’s not so much I need to be around people, it’s that often it’s just more entertaining to be than whatever else I happen to be focused on at the time. In those times, it’s fairly easy to move in and be part of the social sphere. But it does usually get tiring fast.
I highly disagree towards referencing anecdotal evidence to support your claim. the placement in the list is very accurate compared to the other types.
People in the comments seem to disagree, but as an INTJ, I completely agree with the placement. I love being alone, and being around other people is incredibly draining. I have close friends and good social skills but I never go out of my way to spend time with them and in fact actively avoid it. I almost only spend time with others when it serves a purpose in addition to "socializing."
If I do care about the people I'm socializing to, I do add the "make them feel good" as one of those purposes, and it will be enough if that's the only reason why I go out of my way for those people. It's one of those cases where an INTJ has planned to intentionally give off their time. Those people must be THAT important to the INTJ.
@@TheMoribund666 glad to meet ya xD (by the way, i do have a close intj friend who's also super introverted in this sense and i hope you'll find one too =P )
INTJ description is extremely accurate for me. I have my few close friends, and then acquaintances that I enjoy speaking to during school/sports. But technically, once that class ends or the team season concludes, I don't need these acquaintances anymore. In a sense, they are disposable 😂
Very true. If we don't feel an authentic Fi connection, an acquaintance remains just an acquaintance. This is opposite of ESFPs who seem not to be able to tell the difference between friend and random person on the street lol
Agreed. Disposable may be too harsh so I think functional is more accurate, especially for people working in group projects with you. I talk to these individuals for work so we can have a smooth working relationship but outside of that, I don't engage.
Question from an INTP: Don't you sometimes meet someone cool and think "He/she seems cool, I would like to know more about him/her (outside of what you are doing together)"? Of course, things usually don't work out, but sometimes it can lead to something.
@@dazzlebreak4458 Rarely; it happens on occasion if I see the person frequently enough (it takes a long time to warm up to people!) I’m used to never reaching out, but I have been trying to change that.
I think that the ne doms are pretty much on the cusp of extro- and introversion because the first extroverted judging function is in our third slot and ne is simply not as action-taking as se. Ne is more about ideas and observation and we’re okay with just sitting somewhere and perceiving the events around us while coming up with possible outcomes rather than actually going out and doing the thing/implementing it into reality (si + the extroverted judging function in the third slot) I feel like te or fe can bring us a lot of relief because instead of just ideating and living in possibility land (often slipping into complainer tendencies because reality is not congruous with “how good it COULD/SHOULD be”), we can actually make the possibilities that we deem as best happen. As an entp, I like deconstructing situations and puzzling them back together, then figuring out what makes most sense to me but I often end up not putting this thing into action, then feeling annoyed with the fact that “nothing makes sense and nobody even notices” WHEN I DIDN’T EVEN TELL PEOPLE FKFJFK
I used to complain about ppl all the time and get frustrated at every step but with time my fe has developed quite a lot so now I actively seek out what I personally can do to help. We need a little (read : lot of) time to figure the tertiary functions out that's all
I really like the way you described ENTJs. although I'm an INTP, from what I noticed, there IS a more reserved side to ENTJs rather than them being a "commanding extrovert" 24/7. Nice job with the video, you explained everything quite thoroughly :)
As an ENTJ I totally agreed with his assessment. My social battery and ability to tolerate people has a shorter lifespan and I absolutely love being alone a lot. I like living a balanced life in that way.
Well, ISTP here and, I'm pretty introverted something like 86% according to tests going all the way up to 97% if I lack sleep, It's not that I don't care about socializing it's more that it feels normal to be alone and I never feel lonely and, the need to meet someone just to be with bad company doesn't exist in me because I am good company for myself, I'm not anti-social, I just don't wanna spend a lot of time with people who aren't interesting or get discomforted by quietness or always try to break it at all opportunities they get because that can get to me, sometimes when drinking a cup of coffee you just wanna stare into the abyss and enjoy a quiet meal. I would say I care too much about social interactions spending a lot of time thinking them through after but, but it's just challenging to find people who similarly view the world or have something to offer to me other than lies which immediately turns me disinterested in the relationship and makes me abandon them but on the other side something that turns people away from me is that I am deeply interested in controversial topics and like to argue about them from the start of a conversation. While I usually don't just start discussing if the opportunity arises it's hard to resist but, for other people, arguments are highly annoying even if the subject is interesting which I don't really understand.
Fellow ISTP-T and league addict as well, if you ever want to banter and argue controversial things, I'm all ears. Couldn't think of any better way to spend my time.
@@leagueaddict8357 Big fan of skill shot champs and or champs that take a lot of heat (usually i stick to adc/sup/jg depending on what's needed). Love to play thresh lee, lux, Kalista, tristana, vayne, kindred, xayah, xerath, teemo singed, Tf ,varus, kaisa ,alistar. The utility and flexibility of thresh is by far the champ I have most fun on.
I think you're right about INTPs being less introverted then INTJs because especially if we have a more developed Fe we tend to crave a sense of community and if we are feeling in a particular extroverted mood (rare, I know) then Fe might just push us to conform to societal standards and leave the house for once.
The thing with INTPs, is that we are very Introverted. But get us talking on a topic we are interested in, and you'll be surprised. The general rule of thumb is we're more Extraverted based on how close of a person we are with. Our methods of arguing tend to be passive, and although we tend to avoid direct conflict, if somebody is on our nerves or extremely in correct, but claims otherwise, our arguments can get extremely Extraverted and talkative (I call this ENTP mode).
You're right tbh. I'm an INTP (although I really don't see the Fe inf for myself, except for lack of social skills), this could be a double edged sword, we'll learn more about others, touch grass, however will be pressured by societal norms, doubting to be blunt even when we need to sometimes
I'm now really confused bc i live in 2 places one is my village were i could stay out of talk with ppl for 4 mounts if we don't count my family but when i moved to students domitry i can't stand without talking with someone for 1.5 weeks and i have 3 social circles there one is with roommate and ppl from floor (there is usually 3 or 4 ppl at once) were I'm really flaky and and quckley go on daydream mode one weman group of friends (there is around 2 to 5 depends on the day) were I'm most conftable asking for advice on feelings and realationships generally go when I'm bored for some smalltalk and i there go once or twice sometimes 0 times a week and i have my most close social (there is usually 4 5 and 6 ppl at once) circle were i can let loose and having halarius one liners and doing crazy random stuff and laugh at absurdity of items they carry but after one hour of that and when conversations get more extraverted (lots of interesting) i distance out i observe and laugh bc i can't keep up with that or just go on daydream mode when that happens so I'm really confused right now bc i got recently in this mbti stuff and not Shure with mbti type fits me best for now I'm male INTP but i think I'm never enough honest with myself bc i have that bias that I'm smartest in room kinda or I'm totally different type or i just developed my Fe really good after period of deep depretion that i willed myself out of with logic that says that if i don't forse myself on social inerations i won't get them and now i just feel more happy then ever and also (idk were to put this fact) after morning of school whole afternoon is me with yt my toughs and books around until around 7 pm were i find most interesting group to talk around for 2 to 2.5 hours then I'm done for one day if u had nerve to read all of this i congradiute u and try to guess my type bc I'm really not sure to trust myself bc i think i always exadureate everything even to some extend this but i tried my best Soo yea...
As an INFJ, this is pretty true. For me, I felt like an ambivert, I'm usually noisy to those people I'm comfortable with but quiet when I'm not comfortable with you. Especially in times that I already gave all my energy in social interaction, I tend to be quiet or recharge again then I will talk to you again. Despite I like being alone, there is a part of me that I want to be close to everyone but I tend to be careful to people I talk to, I became choosy, I only choose people worth talking to or has sense in talking or else you will bore me 😂😅✌️
I'm an INTP. My therapist keeps saying that I need to leave my apartment more. I don't live by myself, I have my mom. So Interactions with her are enough for me on a daily basis and once a week I go to the grocery store and to church and have choir rehearsals. (I work from home most of the time) That is enough for me. It took my therapist a while to understand that I'm ok with that amount of social interaction. But I'm trying to deepen a few friendships that I consider worthy.
Accurate! As an INFJ often my extroversion feels almost scientific. Socializing is gathering knowledge. It's not that I'm being disingenuous or cold in the interaction, it's that I'm chronically thinking about where this information lines up with other information that I've gathered about people. It's not consciously done, it's just how my mind works.
I feel like ESFP’s are more extroverted socially than ESTP’s at least in my experience. My best friend growing up was an ESTP and when we were doing stuff in the summer he would actually be the one saying he needed a break rather than me, and I’m an INFP so that’s saying something lol. There’s definitely some massively extroverted ESTP’s but I’ve never met a somewhat introverted ESFP; they can’t stand to be alone whereas ESTP’s kind of can for a decent amount of time.
Totally agree! I've known ESFPs who can never go without a friend and rarely have the need to recharge their social battery - they just keep going!! But while my ESTP dad is always the life of the party and can instantly connect with people, he's definitely a lot more comfortable in solitude I'd say.
Agree as ESTP, although being alone starts sucking if there's nothing fun to do and fun alone is a bit tricky. But in groups I can be either calm or nuts if I get excited, which doesn't take too much but can get annoyed in a wrong group and start yawning if people are acting super weird.
I think I've met both versions of both ESFPs and ESTPs - the super-extroverted, hates to be alone version and the more comfortable with solitude version. Though I'll admit I've seen the can't stand to be alone/needs constant stimulation version of the ESFP more often. I have an ESFP aunt and an ESTP uncle and they're both kind of middle-of-the-road. Both naturally very outgoing but both also comfortable with some amount of solitude and have things they enjoy doing alone. The ESFP has some artistic and spiritual interests, enjoys decorating and making an oasis of her home, pampering herself, and stuff like that. And the ESTP will read or watch TV or play video games on his own.
@@Multitudes_ Right - I feel like if anything, the way that ESFPs recharge is more to prepare themselves for others, whereas ESTPs will genuinely let themselves rest for the sake of resting? E.g. ESFP will pamper themselves or decorate their home so as to look more presentable to others the next time they interact with them while ESTP will seek enjoyable experiences alone (like hiking or outdoorsy stuff) just to take a load off :)
I totally agree, but that might just be my experience. I have a fairly close ESFP friend who's energy for social events seems endless. He is also not super selective with the people he chooses as friends because he genuinely wants to get along with everyone, although this doesn't always work (I guess it's because of Fi's strong value system). Yet, I have an ESTP partner who could easily be mistaken for an introvert. He doesn't have a lot of friends, and the ones he does have, he barely sees. He is usually super busy with work, but he goes out of his way to spend his free time on his own. I am an INFJ and I'm pretty much the only person he can stand, but he usually burns out if social interaction is too prolonged. A lot of times I am the one that schedules the reunions, unless he feels extremely alone and he calls me.
INTJ - I guess I agree with the placement, not just because of the "anti-socialness", but especially because of the tendency to isolate ourself. I've noticed that I see a lot (pretty much everybody in my life) as disposable (which is probably problematic). As in I'm not emotionally dependent on them in the slythest and could cut them out of my life without facing any concequences or iritations. I tend to ignore people that I don't need (here we are with the stereotypes) and find myself thinking that I don't need other people in my life, even though I'm absolutly aware that we are a social species and need each other to survive. So I agree, though I think it could be a trade that can easily overtake our lifes in a self-distructive way.
ENFP here. It's really hard to explain the energy charges and drains from people sometimes. I have just had 3 days of rock music and hugging people, and now 2 days at home just enjoying my own time. :) I also love hanging out with introverts online on streams in the evenings. An awful lot of INFPs on there it appears! I get my energy from lovely people, but can have it drained way too easy by a bad experience or rude people.
ENFP as well and agree!! I agree I have a couple introverted friends that I find. Sometimes they’re too introverted for me that that it really drains me being on the carry the conversation. But then I find some people too highly extroverted for me also.
(INTJ) Depending on your definition of extroversion, I think that's a fair assessment. But in the more pop-psychology watered down definition, where extroversion basically just means outgoingness and a tendency to be social, I have INFP friends and an INFJ best friend (note, just the one INFJ - they're very tricky in this sense!) who are far more "introverted" than I am. When it comes to parties or being the one who has to talk to the humans at shops, I'm often given the job of being the "outgoing" one. It's knackering, but I can do it -- and sometimes I might even enjoy it. Though I won't be able to get to sleep. Ask the other INTJs, they'll probably say the same thing. I think blind-spot Fe can be a superpower in this regard. My INFJ best friend is constantly afraid that people, including himself, will commit social errors and gets stuck analysis paralysis. I don't really give a f**k. So I can blunder on through the night spouting my opinions or getting what I want without overly concerning myself with the vibe of the room.
Yep. We can get mistaken for extroverts because our Te can go on and on without a worry. I remember I went on a trip to South America with my isfp friend. I knew socially she's more extroverted and I was like " excellent I won't have to talk she can be the exteovert" well she looked up and down all the aussies travwlling with us and said "I don't like these people" and shut down lol. I had to be the extrovert for like 2+ weeks and it was exhausting. You're with people from daybreak to midnight daily.
Totally agree, same with me and my INFJ friend, actually I was surprised seeing INFJ to the right of INTJ. Because to make my friend leave his house is kind of huge deal... Well, you know, sometimes I don't mind be "outgoing", because there are things that I would like try, that demand participation of others (e.g., table games, birthday parties and so on). It's not like I'm extremely fine with socialising (though it's only about close circle of friends, noone more), it's rather that I enjoy my plan being fulfilled.
Maybe sometimes for me, but I think I’m deeply introverted as I get worn out in a few hours and I’m not very outgoing, but that may be more social anxiety. It’s really interesting, but INTJs can be really charasmatic
9:01 YES. I just attended a Graduation Party that was planned months in advance, which I'm glad it was because it gave me plenty of time to get ready for the event. I spent hours planning on what to wear - does it go with the theme? Is it too much? How will I do my makeup, my hair? What is the optimal time to get there and leave? Finally the day arrived, things went well according to plan. Spent 2.5 hours there, had fun with the friends, went home - DRAINED. I ended up taking a 3 hour nap. I was then reminded how the lockdown had such a healing effect on my mental being because pre-pandemic, I was constantly DRAINED. It didn't occur to me until later that the cause was the constant physical stimuli of being in a social setting that didn't satiate what my brain needed. That 2.5 hours of socializing in a big crowd will require weeks, hoping not months to recover because I still want to be around people but not necessarily talking to all of them.
I do think there is an interesting dichotomy between whether INTP or INTJs are more introverted. As an INTJ I would say I am far more assertive in social situations than the INTPs I know, I will organise meeting up with friends and larger social events, and I am quick to respond to messages. However I agree it is also true that I can not talk to anyone for a week if I have a project I really want to focus on, and not suffer that much loneliness, in fact I often find not having any social interaction at all for a day (and I mean none, even a tiny amount shifts my state of mind) to be incredibly refreshing. The INTPs I know may do the same, but generally they enter a more turbulent mental state when they do.
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Same. I tend to notice I have to actively reach intps as an INTJ more if I work with them on anything. Though I do notice they are more likely to take part in vices than intjs. I think that is a part of it. Intjs also tend to have more hyper-focus to something while intps are more lax and passive.
Also, the hyper-focus of intjs is more likely to avoid people for the sake of concentrating on the task or subject at hand. The passivity of the intp makes it more likely for them to open up.
This is true! I do believe that I am pretty socially assertive, definitely more than my INTP and ISFP friends. As an INTJ, I enjoy my solitude but when I do want to spend time with someone I will take the initiative to do so by msging them first and reply quickly to msges. However if I don't want to talk to you, then I'll take pretty long to reply to your msges lol. Another area I noticed where I am more assertive is in work. I'm usually proactive and respond to msges as soon as I can while my ISFP friend is more passive (I'm not generalising, this may just be her). I think for INTJs if we care about something, we go all out. Otherwise, we just don't bother 😂
The whole social introversion extraversion dichotomy is exactly why I keep going back and forth if I'm an INTP. I am certain of my functions, and 99% sure of the order. But although I don't plan get togethers with people, I enjoy them immensely when people engage with me. I just need some input to generate output, and will not get tired as long as others don't. It is just that I care slightly more about logic than feelings. It might also thinking this because most of my friends are (suspected) IxxJs xD.
Same here, I'm almost 100% percent sure I'm an INTP, however over the past few years I've become a lot more extroverted than i was before. I'm still an introvert but I find myself craving to go out sometimes with people, have nice conversations, and experience new things.
Social introversion and extraversion have little to-do with M.B.T.I. (or only one small part of it if they do). You can be an INTP and a social extrovert (at-least situationally). You can be an ESFP and a social introvert. These are just average tendencies, not absolutes.
I'm actually an INFP who's actually an extrovert on the Big 5 which I found interesting. Especially considering where this video placed INFPs. I"m not surprised tbh I feel like the most ENFP INFP ever lol. Your explanation was well nuanced though, especially on the role of Fe and Se in INFPs :)
Fake infp but hi, ur extrovert because u want to drain extrovert energy. And ur feeler so ur emotional and emotional damage is u when u don't act extrovert so hi infp hi. U people pleaser because, feeler, duh? Obv u extrovert hi
You could just be a mis-typed/dreamier ENFP, to be honest. INFPs for what I know are by far the least-extraverted of all the 16 types. With every other type the specific social dimension of extroversion and introversion (including ambivert ion) can vary within wide-enough limits (for different reasons), INFPs stand to me as at least 90%-introverted. They’re smiley and amiable but they really don’t seem to like being put into social situations with anyone other than their most tight-knit circles. They might go to parties if they’re extremely-familiar with at least a few people (not just one person, I’ve found) there but you tend not to see them at festivals, clubs and whatnot at all (ditto for INTJs). ISFPs (at least the ones with a bit of dopamine-receptivity), INFJs and ISTJs, mhm (kind-of, at least). INFPs, INTJs and even ISFJs (who tend to be quite sensitive to external stimulation and not appreciate it that much, however comfortable they feel in more intimate social circles), not so much. (From my observations.)
Thank you Nathan for the new material on the ESFJ…I feel understood and appreciated. I admire so many of the other personality types and wish I had their qualities..INFP is my favourite. I have an INFP friend and I grew the most in self awareness because of the friendship. It was hard, but necessary growth needed.
INTJ female here. He's 100% correct. I love being alone and in my head. My friends have to book interactions in advance with me, and no more than once every few months. I have friends I haven't seen in years, and I'm ok with that.. I have no problem declining social gatherings. Especially if there may be more than 3 ppl present. Strangers can be exhausting. Who needs a million friends? Give me 2 or 3 good ones and I'm set.
As an INFJ I would place myself somewhere in the middle of Introversion and Ambiversion. That is, one or two points towards introversion from where you placed INFJ. I am usually very introverted and show extroversion only when I’m very comfortable around the people I’m with (which doesn’t happen so often), and when I feel that I need to act extroverted at a job interview (I’ve become much more comfortable in my introvert skin though and don’t really do that anymore, in fact I tell them I am introverted and that I’m usually a quiet employee) or some other occasion which is temporary. My energy gets drained in no time when I step into Extroversion mode.
No I’d say ISFJ’s are a bit more extroverted than INFJ’s. Obviously depends on the person but it’s hard to find an ISFJ who’s a complete loner whereas certain INFJ’s can go into Ni-Ti for as long as they want and barely go to Fe.
My INFJ mom is so private, yet has amazing social skills. She gets so many phone calls every day from people just dumping their problems on her because she is that person who's willing to give her time to listen, sympathize, and advice. But then at the same time, she hides her inner self from the whole world and bares all that pain by herself. It kind of amazes me.
@@DragonshotProductions I absolutely agree. I don't really mind no interaction with people for longer as an INFJ but seek them out nevertheless. Yet I've never seen an ISFJ who is like that, they sometimes literally suffer if they can't use their Fe. It's probably because they're Si doms, so information to process comes from the real physical world, whereas in Ni anything is possible, Ni will find a concept out of nowhere and be happy to process it without any outward stimulation.
But Si means you are more grounded, more environment, real things focus then Ni so in that matter it’s normal that between Si Fe and Ni Fe Si Fe is more extroverted than Infj
Side note. Enneagram types allow for huge variation between each of the types. I’m an Infj type 5 enneagram and I barely talk. By contrast my enneagram type 2 friend has soo many friends and loves to converse
Interesting, I’m an INFJ, my enneagram is either 1 or 2 I have yet to figure out which one I am because I can relate to both. But I don’t really like to socialize, my percentage on the MBTI test for being introverted is 80%, and I don’t have many friends, just a few close ones.
(ISTP)I feel like I can easily be alone 80% of the time on a daily basis. I tend to go where people are (church, errands) to stay psychologically healthy with a pleasant support network. But being alone is my happy place. I have more to offer others if I am given majority alone time. Sometimes I wonder if, on some level, I subconsciously gave myself my autoimmune illness so people would stop making so many demands on me. But alas, physical impairment is a double-edged sword. 😶😔
I expected INFJ to be at the middle, but after you explained your placement, it actually makes more sense. Thanks for this. I think it's helped me more with figuring out my dad's type.
It has to be said that there are people of pretty much any type (with the probable exception of INFPs) who range from very introverted to very extraverted. These are just general tendencies so it might-well be that you per se really are smack-bang in the middle.
As an ENFP (finally I got my type right), I am pretty much an introvert and live in my dungeon (read: bedroom) most of the time. But I can be an extrovert when I have to (i.e. when I'm surrounded by introverts and nobody wants to initiate a conversation). Having a "I love people" phase to "don't bother me, leave me alone" phase is such an unpredictable traits. I guess, even the ENFPs themselves are confused as well lols...
I would rate ESFP higher on the scale probably second rigth after ESFJ. They seem to be pretty keen on being the center of attention from what i have seen but i could be wrong. I also agree with INTJ being more introverted than INTP because INTP can be really talkative with others when they share interest and hobbies. Plus they like hearing ideas from other people.
As an ESFJ myself it depends on the situation. Sometimes it feels like that a highly caffeinated ESFP in a physical environment is more "over the top" than me on any day. Yes I can talk anyone to death or migraine like my lovely mother in law says. But the more party situation I'm somewhere looking aghast with a glass of champagne and trying to talk about opera (like a good Frasier). And I will not debate anyone forcefully and tastelessly. Excellent points 😃.
INTP & INTJ really comes close to last. I’m INTP and my father is INTJ. He hates outside interaction however he’s more in touch with us family members. I avoid interacting with my family yet seek interactions from my peers, even it didn’t work. That was when I was in my most unhealthy state. Now I can feed myself, I’m quite more extroverted then my father. For me, social interactions is source of information.
As an ISFJ, you are correct! I am indeed what one would consider an ambivert; I plan parties and group outings and have my calendar pretty much organized to a tee...but I can only handle 3 or so hours of socialization before I'm wiped for an entire week 🙃 I legit enjoy being on my own and/or being at home and chatting with my online friends, I don't need to be out and about and I generally keep to myself because I'm always thinking about what's next on my schedule or what needs to be done, so generally I think I might come off as a bit stand offish oop
Enfp here an yup! We are certainly the ambivert of ambiverts As an only child I grew up used to spending most of my time solitarily (my extended family lives far too), albeit primarily in my own realm of imagination comfortably, be it playing games, watching shows, simply day dreaming, my own brain box was filled with endless modes of way to keep myself entertained. To which thinking abt it now is perhaps the NeFi driving forwards However, considering all the previous I did believe I was an introvert initially, but analyzing my social habits, I just love interacting with other ppl, I love environments that provide opportunities to socials. As a kid, give me the options of in person or home schooling and I’ll always pick in person, I just didn’t want to give up that outside stimulus of seeking the new or more abt others to satiate my curiosity. My Ne-Te side if you will I do still get tired with draining ppl, I’ll need my own personal time after an entire days worth of intense socializing, and I would prefer those bouts go uninterrupted with even _more_ draining interactions (tho, if it’s the 1-2 person I rlly rlly rlly enjoy being around, they do opposite of draining, they help revitalize me quicker)
I think you need another vid breaking down social extroversion into its component parts - intellectual discussions, emoting, organising, gossiping, physical expression (yes, I'm talking about you, free-form dancing), etc, you get my drift. That should mix things up a bit. Excellent as always.
While I am an ENTP, I initially typed as an INTP way back when I first completed the MBTI over 20 years ago. Reading the descriptions, it was immediately clear to me that I was (am!) an ENTP. Your description fits perfectly, especially about the hobbies/interests. I have little need or desire for social interaction and connection, but in true ENTP style, I find it energising when I participate.
Between me the INFP and my husband, the INFJ, I'm much more interested in social interaction, while he's more capable though very disinterested in it. I see INTJ, INTP, ISTP, INFP, ISFP, and INFJ huddling together at the end of the line all trying to get someone else to go say hello to all the other types that are having the shindig along the line. The extroverts and ambiverts all either don't notice the huddle of introverts or wonder what's their problem. Then the ISTJ burns out and leaves the screen entirely, and the ISFJ comes and chats us up as if nothing ever happened. Thank you for this video.
I'm an ISTJ. And I have very very few ones I consider close friends, like one or two close friends that stick with my real me till now. With social interaction, I'm not that introverted if I know and have 'data' about the situation/topic/conversation, etc. But if i'm not, it can be fairly drained if I stay in a too crowded place full of fellows I can't form a proper conversation. I went home, run out of battery and get headache for the rest of the day after that @@ But for a close friend who knew me for years, I had more meaningful long conversation and feel much recharged instead. How I act depends on how much 'data' I knew about the social interaction. Otherwise, I'll leave soon and feel like a waste of time. I reckon other personalities/people just be like this as well.
I would just swap ISTP and ISTJ. I think ISTP gives off strong ambivert vibes, especially with their Se. ISTJs seem veryyy introverted, like if they saw someone in class doing something “wrong” they would strongly want to do something about it but end up doing nothing. They give off like anxious introvert. ISTP would notice, but probably wouldn’t care enough to mention it to them
@zeph kn not sure about all istps but I'm one and I'm much closer to ambivert than that even in tests I usually get just enough of introverted to get the I and not the E
I agree with everything you said the only thing I might add is being an ENTP I personally am a tried and true ambivert 100% and all my other ENTP buddies are the most Ambiverted people I’ve ever met that could just be us but otherwise I agree with everything lol
I'm an ENFP that always mistyped as INFP. The reason we're the most introverted type is because a lot of our extroverting is done in our heads through pondering the outside world. Our Fi takes a backseat and we just let the madness flow. Eventually we hit a point where we have to sit with our Fi and ask for it's opinion on our new ideas. For me this looks like pacing alone in my backyard with headphones on, running scenarios through my head.
Oh my, I have two ESFJs in my immediate family; this statement about them being "social schedulers" is horribly true😂. They don't really allow themselves alone time, at least, it's not scheduled.
As INTP, yes, I can go for days with little interaction (living with Fi/Fe users and ESTJ, can't be completely alone). But when someone mentions something I know about... Here I Come! XD Most social interactions I have nowadays have a purpose; learn something new, practice a certain skill or distract myself when I don't feel like writing. I quickly lose interest after a couple days 😂😅😅 I know it's not fair to the others, but it's hard to connect with people I can't see face to face. (Too shy for face-time, I live in a vicious cycle)
INFJs are strange. We spend a lot of time learning to deal with people and socialize more easily, but we don't actually like utilizing it all that much. We enjoy isolating that expertise, and our social energy, into a few close relationships. To the people we're close to, we can express ourselves and sometimes even open up with greater energy and confidence, and that can make them think of us as extroverted. In reality, they are the exception to the rule. Although we are able to function in large social settings, it drains us much more easily and makes us feel uncomfortable. I think most INFJs would prefer to stay quiet and uninvolved in such settings, as though blotting out all the social "noise" in order to focus on what they're comfortable with-- themselves, and maybe a small group of friends.
ESFJs are so underrated, my ESFJ mom legit built me a support network in a country she's never been to, just by befriending a friend of a friend of a friend, and she seems to take the whole maintenance part of relationships with ease, where for me(ENFP), that's the hardest part. In favor-based economies, they'd be the billionaires. Also I'm 100% certain my dad's an ENTJ mistyped as an INTJ, and this is a great explanation as to why.
13:12 I am 100% an INTP and I struggle with social interactions so much and I even learn how to smile with people when the conversation is awkward (I think that I bring awkwardness to the discussions, I don't know🤷)
As an ISTP I'm omnivert, which means that sometimes I can be extrovert and sometimes introvert, there's no between and that's not the same as ambivert.
As an ENFP I strongly agree. I'm just a pure ambivert . The reason why I'm a little little more extroverted is because I have a passion for social interactions and people in general, and because of that, I want to know myself very well so I do a lot of introspection... i think that's why the bounarie between being introvet or exrovert is that thin for us ENFP's... ( I'm sorry, my english is so bad but I'm french so I hope you,ll understand 😅😅)
As an intj, I used to have difficulties connecting to people. Although I genuinely want to help due to the way I speak it sounds uncaring and insincere. As a team leader I need to find ways to connect to my team. I just recently learned that praising them is a great way to start a conversation...I know I have high standards so I don't want to give half meant praise but it seems like people truly like getting praised.
My father is an ISTJ. He’s always sat down to have dinner with us. Shares his wisdom. Listens to us. We can tell he enjoys it, especially the older he gets (and now that we visit instead of live there). But after an hour, he stands up and says, “ok, I’m gonna go rest for a while.” And then he just sits and watches tv or reads in silence for hours. My mom is an esfp and she can talk with us all day long, but she’ll retreat every 30 minutes to go talk on the phone for a while to a million different people throughout the day.
Intps were spot on for me, i can feed myself quite well and living in a joint family, my family members are often upset by how much time i can spend on my own without interacting with them even though we live in essentially the same space 😅
As an ENTJ... I approve this description. I like to engage people when its interesting topics being discussed. If its small talk its hard for me to even pretend to be involved in the conversation.
- Fe is a socialising function which cares for people. So as ESTPs got Se-Fe on their dominant stack, and ESFPs got Se-Te as their dominant stack, ESTPs come off as more extroverted and connected with people possibly. For the same reason ENTPs are also more extroverted than ENFPs. - Sensor versions of each types are more extroverted than the intuitive one. Hope this helps. ~ ENFP-A
I’m an ambivert, a 52:48 precisely, leaning towards extroversion (ENTP) - 006.3 (you know if you know) And I do have those 2 modes you mentioned, I used to think I was an introvert until I improved my social skills, then I realised, people can be fun.
I agree with the ISFJ being an ambivert. I personally have ISFJs in my life and they're pretty much what you've described. Although, I think of myself as an ISFJ too but i seem to be more introverted than them idk.
I'm ENFJ and I feel like Fe is exhausting. Especially with people I care about. I often feel responsible for their emotional well being. And I have to listen a lot because people want you to listen - a lot! And I have to emotionally "be there" in their story and stay attentive. And I have to do this almost every day for a couple of people at work and for my family. I talk a lot less than I listen. I do enjoy this but it takes lots of energy. I need time where my thoughts can just wander and not be disturbed by anyone. And I need time where I'm not responsible for any other soul whatsoever.
As a female ISTP, I am often mistaken as an extrovert. When I'm with my people I enjoy them, but quite frequently. If I have the choice to pursue a project or a hobby or be with people, I will choose the hobby. And sometimes that isolation is bad for me. I think your placement was highly accurate!
This is great to hear. I'm often curious about how the types differ in terms of the genders. Female ISTPs, for example, often talk about how their type is seen with... weirdness by others - especially men. If you're in a sharing mood then feel free to join the LoveWho discord server. Would be cool to have more ISTPs on there! ~ Nathan
As an INFP I feel like I'm the most introverted person in the world. I have my parents, my 2 friends, and 3 other people who I'm close with and genuinely trust. What saddens me is that although I understand these few people very well, they do not understand me. I'm incredibly shy. My voice sounds like a fragile little mouse. To sum it up, I am the perfect definition on a shy, quiet, private person.
It's true but infp are pretty good at faking to be extroverted so it is just a metter of how your own personality has developed and wich aspects of it you are more capable of taking advantage to your social life. To me it was more easy when i was younger.
@@hopesky2879 I'm definitely not good at faking to be extroverted, but I know what you mean. I've seen other infps who are a lot better at being social than I am. The only time I can become social with strangers is when someone opens up about their life, because I love listening to them and guiding them towards an answer.
Those 3 people are actually my current guidance counselor, retired guidance counselor, and a retired teacher. As of my 2 friends, I met them 2 years ago. I spent all of elementary and middle school friendless and being bullied. So yeah, I'm showing off 😄
I was literally just putting that together today that I feel very flip floppy normally all or nothing mentality. As an enfp on feeling extremely introverted but then other times can be extremely extroverted. Randomly scrolled past this video cuz ive watch plenty of your videos before. So thank you for helping me confirm suspicion or give me the answer I was looking for a day ahead of when I had the thought xD
Well... of course everyone deserves some alone time here and there, it is not anything exclusive to ENFJ's, but I think we could have been closer to ambiverts on the spectrum. We get bored when we don't interact with people, but we are actually not as extroverted as it might seem to be the case at first sight. ^^"
I agree with INFP and INTP, probably also INFJ. I only know an ISFJ who's over 60 and is like "disgusted by humans". For a healthy one, I totally see it possible to be ambiverted. As an INFP I need connections, I want people to be around or available when I need them (mentally). But I can't function without occasionally turning inwards, which requires a place where I don't sense others and won't get approached by anyone. An exception may be my mom, who is also INFP and knows me well. If she doesn't talk, I can detach from my surroundings. Then I have an INTP friend with whom it could maybe work as well.
I do pretty much agree with this ranking, even for the few people I know well enough to guess their types. I’ll add my little observations about those I know. INTP (me): At first I was surprised that we were not the lowest, but it does make sense. Sometimes I have interesting thoughts or ideas that I want to share with someone, although finding someone who’s interested is another story. ESFP(little sister): I know she is an extrovert, but she definitely has a lot of introvert moments. She gets very angry at peoples stupid behavior when in public and has meltdowns often. I’m not saying this is typical of her type, this is just her specifically. INFJ (mom): She can be very social if she needs to be, especially at a family gathering. Otherwise she doesn’t talk much and can be seen as standoffish. We just talked about this actually, and she says people often think she is a snob because of this. ISTP (step-dad): He is very similar to my mom in that he can be very social when he needs to be, but he’s also better at being social with strangers than my mom is. However, he can be overwhelmed very quickly and by stupid things and when he is home he will often be very grumpy and have to retreat to be by himself. ENFP (close friend): I love this friend because she is the one who usually takes me out of my comfort zone so I get out of the house, but I’m often surprised at how much of an emotional person she is. Even though I’m not good at texting, she’s one of the people who I often keep in touch with because she always seems to be having a hard time in her current situation and she’s always so appreciative of when I try. She had Covid recently the first time and had a very difficult time not being around people. However, I know she does like to be by herself sometimes and she’s very introspective. This post was written with speech to text on my phone because I am lazy; sorry for spelling and grammatical errors. I’m too lazy to go find them and fix them.
Im an ISFJ, and i have social anxiety, hate being with people and rather be alone all time. I enjoy alone activities like reading, writing, or just being alone with my phone. I only have 2 friends, so yeah.
I'd love to see you make a video of which types are most like each other. So it'd be like a circle. And the ones at the opposite sides of the circle are least like each other. Hopefully this makes sense, I've never seen anyone do this.
I mean, you can kinda see it if you use cognitive functions. For example, an INFJ might behave somewhat similarly to ENFJs, ISFJs or INTJs. Depending on the situation and on what they have to do. The types most different aren't necessarily the opposite types, they are the ones that use INFJs blindspot function as their dominant. That would be: ESTJs, and ENTJs. Keep in mind that this is just how I personally see things. It's not objectively true.
ENFJ here, I feel compelled to accommodate others when I'm with them. I like being alone a lot because I'm freed from my own internal pressure to care take. Think of Elva from Eragon before she was released from the magically compulsion to be a shield to people.
As an INTJ, I agree with the placement. I can appear to be very sociable and confident, but there are times I can barely drag myself out of the house because I just want to stay home and be alone. I almost always task my INFP husband with dealing with new or strange people and situations while I plot and plan and play power behind the throne.
I'm an INFP and my husband is INTJ. We love being at home together and can talk for hours on obscure topics that we find interesting. It's a good combo, but we can be pretty slack at actually getting stuff done : |
@@riversong_ Definitely the same. Our house could best be described as college student clutter and we are pushing 50. Kind of sad, but it works for us.
I’m an INTJ. I would agree that we are the most introverted type. However, I tend to be very confident and non-caring in a lot of social interaction, particularly ones where there are no stakes involved. I suspect that a lot of INTJs are confident and assertive in speech and that confidence can give off a slightly more extroverted vibe. But, trust me when I tell you, no matter how much I seem like I enjoy the conversation (and I probably do), I’ll still never enjoy it as much as I enjoy being by myself.
Yes true, I myself am an INTJ, I would say that I only have 1 friend. There are people with whom I talk in school, but I wouldn't consider them my friend. I only enjoy conversations when people discuss Ideas, I keep silent when the conversation doesn't include any Idea or thought. Remaining times, I enjoy my own company
INTP here and same. At work I often come of as an ENTP or ENFP etc, but when I'm done working, I am the first one to run off and wave my colleagues a quick goodbye. When I drive home, I enjoy the ride and relax after a long day of work. Same goes for social interactions, such as friendships or family. As soon as I'm away from people, I come back to my INTP personality and enjoy my alone time.
As a fellow INTJ I could not put it in better words myself. This is an incredibly precise description of how I act and feel.
INTJ here 👋
I’m VERY good at playing the extravert when needed, and have always been fairly confident + assertive.
Just because we’re the “most introverted” does NOT mean we’re shy.
Yep, 100% agree. On several occasions when I’ve been in the best possible company such as with my closest friends at a large event like a festival or convention, I somehow feel more energised when it’s over and I return home, even if I genuinely found the event fun. Very odd feeling, but I’m sure other INTJs feel the same.
As an INFP, I would say that if I like someone and enjoy their company I can be with them pretty much infinitely, but if it’s someone I don’t mesh with too well I have like 30 minutes of energy before I have to retreat. Fi’s funny when it comes to this because it makes you really want to connect with people, but when you don’t feel any connection you’d rather just be on your own.
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Omg so true I’m an infp
I think that's an interesting thing that differentiates INFPs and INTPs. As an INTP even if I really like someone, I still only want to spend a limited amount of time with them. There are people whom I deeply care about, but I really only see them once a year or so and occasionally check in on them to make sure they're okay. Even when I check in, I often do so by lurking on social media.
I wholeheartedly agree. I have a people-meter but I have certain friends who don’t drain it. I say “You aren’t a people, you’re Name” 😂
@@bodine219 lmao yes
My girlfriend is ISFJ and I’m ENTP so she’s this 👌🏻much more introverted then me. We often describe ourselves as “extrovert who hates people” and “introvert who can’t live without them”
Free advice from 9 years of that: Make sure she has and maintains her own friends. You cannot be all the kinds of friend she needs. We want to go kill the bear that upset her but she just really needs to talk about it while you only patiently listen. IKR?! But you do have the relative sociability correct. Yes.
Wow true statements
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Just letter typing dont take this seriously lol
As an INTP this is extremely accurate because my time in isolation actually surprises or scares people and they say that they would've gone mad if they were in my place.
This even includes the ability to remain silent.
I chuckled when he began the INTP with "INTPs were contenders for being last on the list." and the rest was pretty spot on with how I've been living my life in the last few years.
This was the calm of Michael Collins all alone orbiting the moon with Armstrong and Aldrin on the moon
This made Collins the most isolated man in modern history and he was ok with it
@@verntoews6937 Honestly, I'd be completely fine being alone in space for an entire day. I can do the duties no one has done before, look at the stars, moon, and earth, and contemplate my time, place, and being. Could I do that for months on end? No. But for a day or so? Totally.
I can be stuck on my computer for several months with barely any social interaction. That's actually how I live, so it's not really a challenge
An INFJ would understand and adore you and even help you use that alone time more effectively. They can see how you’re apparently weird habits are actually strengths.
I’m an INFJ and used Nathan’s videos to find an INTP to solve my problems. He was looking for me too. We’re very happy and weird together.
Your hair is gorgeous.
🤣 love that you notice it!
I agree with ISFJs being more socially extraverted than INFJs and also less drained by social interactions. I know someone who's ISFJ and running parties etc. but can't hardly see them as an extravert, very clearly an Si dom. I'm an INFJ and nearly everyone says I'm extraverted which is not true. And I don't really like the ISFJ's parties :) Give me an ENTP for a witty and intellectual discussion instead :)
This is true in my experience. My brother is ISFJ and he throws parties with his friends, who seem to be a combination of SJs and a couple ISxPs. Also, I know several INFJs, and they are very socially selective and introverted in comparison.
As an ISFJ, everyone thinks I’m an extrovert 😂😂😂
You have a super understanding of the functions and how they work together in the strengths of both. Could you help me please? I’ve posted a reply that is extremely detailed but would help Nathan. I want him to see, but I don’t know how. By the way my ISFJ daughter helped me find this solution. 😂
It would bring a lot of happiness to many people. And you are amazing at that.❤
ENFPs also have excellent conversations with INFJs.
Here is the ENTP you ordered.... There is no return policy, because otherwise every single one of us would be returned.
For INTJs, socialization is very important as only a small dose is needed for us to continue to productively be in our heads without getting stuck in our heads
I'd put it like "not to get into solipsism". I think, INTJs care about being objective. At least, in their own eyes.
Yes, a small dose is an accurate description.
Right. I know INTJs like to think of themselves (no offence to you - I’m talking in general terms) as the O.G.s of everything potentially-involving them (even antisocial-ness) but with Te and Se thrown in-the-stack they’re really not *that* introverted as a type and still need people to talk *at,* if not actually-with, per-se (but even at that they do have their friends). IXXPs and reserved INFJs are far-more socially-reserved. INTJs and ISTJs still need people to command/boss-around in the external realm (and in the case of the former conspiracy theories to spread).
ENFPs (as I’m sure most people will agree) are half-and-half but I will say that introverted ENFPs (the ones who really bask in Fi, almost as-if it wasn’t only their auxiliary function) are more-introverted than INFJs.
@@Anonymous_Anon882 I agree in part with what you are saying, INTJs along with all other NT rationals are a bit different than other subtypes such as SPs who live in the moment, SJs who live in the past, and NFs who live in the future, NTs live in "segments" of time where like for INTJs for that matter, can get in the Ni-Fi loop/segment and go hyper-antisocial sorting through what data from the world they have on hand to eventually get out and implement a system in the external world (Te-Se). We don't need anybody to command per se, our most natural role is to be a No. 2 in an organization where our ideas (Ni) are respected by the No. 1, the vision and direction of the No. 1 aligns with our Fi, we have a clear goal to design a system around (Te), and the encouragement, support, and resources needed and provided to make it happen (Se). But yes, INTJs enjoy measuring their own potential and convincing ourselves we are the best at something without the need for external validation although it may be needed at times if we want to healthily grow
@@bradleyj7801 agreed (again). I do understand where Love Who’s coming from and most of his list is pretty-much spot-on (as I see it) but I just think it’s a fallacy to say that INTJs are the most inward-focused/socially-reticent. Compared to IXXP types and tightly-cut INFJs they’re really not.
Spot on with INFJ and ENFP's. I myself (INFJ) feel very ambiverted and like I don't fit the label Introvert or Extravert. My best friend is an ENFP and when he took the 16p test he was surprised to see he was extraverted because he enjoys spending time alone and in his head. In social situations he is always very present and comfortable but still felt like an introvert..
I'm a super introverted INFJ, very close to INTP level of introversion. Wonder what is the introversion spectrum of INFJ's.
haha same here!, i totally agree too with your opinion, and i wonder why mostly i see INFJ and ENFP often seen together? that just very interesting hahaha
One of the most accurate descriptions of ENTJs I've come across. You literally described the trajectory of my life so far. Initially mistyped as INTJ, looked into personality psychology, started getting more comfortable in my own skin and owning both my strengths and weaknesses, then finding ways to better balance my traits. Have learned how to be rather diplomatic most of the time and can turn up the charm when I need to. Other times I can tap into my natural assertiveness (and, if needed, brutal honesty and/or harshness) to get what I want or to get things done efficiently or to put up/maintain a personal boundary. And in the last few years, my social circle has rapidly expanded, which has definitely helped my self-esteem and confidence.
This is relatable. I thought I was an ISTJ for a while but that never clicked for me. Turns out I was an ESTJ all along.
it seems most entjs mistype as intjs or occassionally infjs..either way seems entjs commonly mistype
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I am also trying to broaden my social circles, kinda difficult to find the opportunity for it, jow did you do it?
INTJ here - when I saw the movie INCEPTION, I fell in love with the idea of limbo, and sinking down there for years, and coming up the next day psychologically decades older, but physically no older at all. I could live thousands of years in one lifetime! I still fantasize about it.
As an INTP, I also wish it was real. Being able to exist inside a place where the limit's your imagination for a near infinite period of time sounds like heaven.
Not for the same reason, but that's my favorite movie! (INFJ here)
Christopher Nolan's film concepts thrill my Ni.
"INTPs were a contender for being last on the list..." I felt that on an existential level...
As a fellow INTP, I can relate.
ISTP here and I would rank us higher towards the ambivert. Speaking for myself, it’s not so much I need to be around people, it’s that often it’s just more entertaining to be than whatever else I happen to be focused on at the time. In those times, it’s fairly easy to move in and be part of the social sphere. But it does usually get tiring fast.
same
I highly disagree towards referencing anecdotal evidence to support your claim. the placement in the list is very accurate compared to the other types.
I agree
@@TheLastYokel lol the MTBI pseudo-science is purely based on anecdotal evidence.
People in the comments seem to disagree, but as an INTJ, I completely agree with the placement. I love being alone, and being around other people is incredibly draining. I have close friends and good social skills but I never go out of my way to spend time with them and in fact actively avoid it. I almost only spend time with others when it serves a purpose in addition to "socializing."
If I do care about the people I'm socializing to, I do add the "make them feel good" as one of those purposes, and it will be enough if that's the only reason why I go out of my way for those people. It's one of those cases where an INTJ has planned to intentionally give off their time. Those people must be THAT important to the INTJ.
I'm an infj and i'm exactly like you ! (Ni cousins haha)
@@BuizelCream completely agree! Good points
@@Nina21_ I WISH I had a friend on my wavelength, nice to meet you cousin
@@TheMoribund666 glad to meet ya xD (by the way, i do have a close intj friend who's also super introverted in this sense and i hope you'll find one too =P )
INTJ description is extremely accurate for me. I have my few close friends, and then acquaintances that I enjoy speaking to during school/sports. But technically, once that class ends or the team season concludes, I don't need these acquaintances anymore. In a sense, they are disposable 😂
Very true. If we don't feel an authentic Fi connection, an acquaintance remains just an acquaintance. This is opposite of ESFPs who seem not to be able to tell the difference between friend and random person on the street lol
Agreed. Disposable may be too harsh so I think functional is more accurate, especially for people working in group projects with you. I talk to these individuals for work so we can have a smooth working relationship but outside of that, I don't engage.
Question from an INTP: Don't you sometimes meet someone cool and think "He/she seems cool, I would like to know more about him/her (outside of what you are doing together)"? Of course, things usually don't work out, but sometimes it can lead to something.
@@dazzlebreak4458 Rarely; it happens on occasion if I see the person frequently enough (it takes a long time to warm up to people!) I’m used to never reaching out, but I have been trying to change that.
I think that the ne doms are pretty much on the cusp of extro- and introversion because the first extroverted judging function is in our third slot and ne is simply not as action-taking as se. Ne is more about ideas and observation and we’re okay with just sitting somewhere and perceiving the events around us while coming up with possible outcomes rather than actually going out and doing the thing/implementing it into reality (si + the extroverted judging function in the third slot)
I feel like te or fe can bring us a lot of relief because instead of just ideating and living in possibility land (often slipping into complainer tendencies because reality is not congruous with “how good it COULD/SHOULD be”), we can actually make the possibilities that we deem as best happen.
As an entp, I like deconstructing situations and puzzling them back together, then figuring out what makes most sense to me but I often end up not putting this thing into action, then feeling annoyed with the fact that “nothing makes sense and nobody even notices” WHEN I DIDN’T EVEN TELL PEOPLE FKFJFK
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All of this!!!!! Especially the first paragraph!
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I used to complain about ppl all the time and get frustrated at every step but with time my fe has developed quite a lot so now I actively seek out what I personally can do to help. We need a little (read : lot of) time to figure the tertiary functions out that's all
As a fellow entp, I also do this 😅
I really like the way you described ENTJs. although I'm an INTP, from what I noticed, there IS a more reserved side to ENTJs rather than them being a "commanding extrovert" 24/7. Nice job with the video, you explained everything quite thoroughly :)
As an ENTJ I totally agreed with his assessment. My social battery and ability to tolerate people has a shorter lifespan and I absolutely love being alone a lot. I like living a balanced life in that way.
I'm an INTJ, the stereotype is so accurate it's kinda funny. Saved up all my money for 15 years, now plotting my escape from the humans... :P
Wow sounds nice
We're living the dream, man.
Well, ISTP here and, I'm pretty introverted something like 86% according to tests going all the way up to 97% if I lack sleep, It's not that I don't care about socializing it's more that it feels normal to be alone and I never feel lonely and, the need to meet someone just to be with bad company doesn't exist in me because I am good company for myself, I'm not anti-social, I just don't wanna spend a lot of time with people who aren't interesting or get discomforted by quietness or always try to break it at all opportunities they get because that can get to me, sometimes when drinking a cup of coffee you just wanna stare into the abyss and enjoy a quiet meal.
I would say I care too much about social interactions spending a lot of time thinking them through after but, but it's just challenging to find people who similarly view the world or have something to offer to me other than lies which immediately turns me disinterested in the relationship and makes me abandon them but on the other side something that turns people away from me is that I am deeply interested in controversial topics and like to argue about them from the start of a conversation. While I usually don't just start discussing if the opportunity arises it's hard to resist but, for other people, arguments are highly annoying even if the subject is interesting which I don't really understand.
Fellow ISTP-T and league addict as well, if you ever want to banter and argue controversial things, I'm all ears. Couldn't think of any better way to spend my time.
@@skyscraper908 What champions do you main?
@@leagueaddict8357 Big fan of skill shot champs and or champs that take a lot of heat (usually i stick to adc/sup/jg depending on what's needed). Love to play thresh lee, lux, Kalista, tristana, vayne, kindred, xayah, xerath, teemo singed, Tf ,varus, kaisa ,alistar. The utility and flexibility of thresh is by far the champ I have most fun on.
@@skyscraper908 I don't really like ''skill shot'' champs, I'm more of a macro player so I play things like TF / Shen.
Im INFP my sis is ISTP and she is alot more outgoing, but she doesn’t crave company like an INFP does 🤔
I think you're right about INTPs being less introverted then INTJs because especially if we have a more developed Fe we tend to crave a sense of community and if we are feeling in a particular extroverted mood (rare, I know) then Fe might just push us to conform to societal standards and leave the house for once.
The thing with INTPs, is that we are very Introverted. But get us talking on a topic we are interested in, and you'll be surprised. The general rule of thumb is we're more Extraverted based on how close of a person we are with. Our methods of arguing tend to be passive, and although we tend to avoid direct conflict, if somebody is on our nerves or extremely in correct, but claims otherwise, our arguments can get extremely Extraverted and talkative (I call this ENTP mode).
You're right tbh. I'm an INTP (although I really don't see the Fe inf for myself, except for lack of social skills), this could be a double edged sword, we'll learn more about others, touch grass, however will be pressured by societal norms, doubting to be blunt even when we need to sometimes
I'm now really confused bc i live in 2 places one is my village were i could stay out of talk with ppl for 4 mounts if we don't count my family but when i moved to students domitry i can't stand without talking with someone for 1.5 weeks and i have 3 social circles there one is with roommate and ppl from floor (there is usually 3 or 4 ppl at once) were I'm really flaky and and quckley go on daydream mode one weman group of friends (there is around 2 to 5 depends on the day) were I'm most conftable asking for advice on feelings and realationships generally go when I'm bored for some smalltalk and i there go once or twice sometimes 0 times a week and i have my most close social (there is usually 4 5 and 6 ppl at once) circle were i can let loose and having halarius one liners and doing crazy random stuff and laugh at absurdity of items they carry but after one hour of that and when conversations get more extraverted (lots of interesting) i distance out i observe and laugh bc i can't keep up with that or just go on daydream mode when that happens so I'm really confused right now bc i got recently in this mbti stuff and not Shure with mbti type fits me best for now I'm male INTP but i think I'm never enough honest with myself bc i have that bias that I'm smartest in room kinda or I'm totally different type or i just developed my Fe really good after period of deep depretion that i willed myself out of with logic that says that if i don't forse myself on social inerations i won't get them and now i just feel more happy then ever and also (idk were to put this fact) after morning of school whole afternoon is me with yt my toughs and books around until around 7 pm were i find most interesting group to talk around for 2 to 2.5 hours then I'm done for one day
if u had nerve to read all of this i congradiute u and try to guess my type bc I'm really not sure to trust myself bc i think i always exadureate everything even to some extend this but i tried my best Soo yea...
I'm INTP but I only got a 60% in introversion when I took the test
As an INFJ, this is pretty true. For me, I felt like an ambivert, I'm usually noisy to those people I'm comfortable with but quiet when I'm not comfortable with you. Especially in times that I already gave all my energy in social interaction, I tend to be quiet or recharge again then I will talk to you again. Despite I like being alone, there is a part of me that I want to be close to everyone but I tend to be careful to people I talk to, I became choosy, I only choose people worth talking to or has sense in talking or else you will bore me 😂😅✌️
Literally me (but I'm an entp)
True
I'm an INTP. My therapist keeps saying that I need to leave my apartment more. I don't live by myself, I have my mom. So Interactions with her are enough for me on a daily basis and once a week I go to the grocery store and to church and have choir rehearsals. (I work from home most of the time) That is enough for me. It took my therapist a while to understand that I'm ok with that amount of social interaction.
But I'm trying to deepen a few friendships that I consider worthy.
Accurate! As an INFJ often my extroversion feels almost scientific. Socializing is gathering knowledge. It's not that I'm being disingenuous or cold in the interaction, it's that I'm chronically thinking about where this information lines up with other information that I've gathered about people. It's not consciously done, it's just how my mind works.
I feel like ESFP’s are more extroverted socially than ESTP’s at least in my experience. My best friend growing up was an ESTP and when we were doing stuff in the summer he would actually be the one saying he needed a break rather than me, and I’m an INFP so that’s saying something lol. There’s definitely some massively extroverted ESTP’s but I’ve never met a somewhat introverted ESFP; they can’t stand to be alone whereas ESTP’s kind of can for a decent amount of time.
Totally agree! I've known ESFPs who can never go without a friend and rarely have the need to recharge their social battery - they just keep going!! But while my ESTP dad is always the life of the party and can instantly connect with people, he's definitely a lot more comfortable in solitude I'd say.
Agree as ESTP, although being alone starts sucking if there's nothing fun to do and fun alone is a bit tricky. But in groups I can be either calm or nuts if I get excited, which doesn't take too much but can get annoyed in a wrong group and start yawning if people are acting super weird.
I think I've met both versions of both ESFPs and ESTPs - the super-extroverted, hates to be alone version and the more comfortable with solitude version. Though I'll admit I've seen the can't stand to be alone/needs constant stimulation version of the ESFP more often.
I have an ESFP aunt and an ESTP uncle and they're both kind of middle-of-the-road. Both naturally very outgoing but both also comfortable with some amount of solitude and have things they enjoy doing alone. The ESFP has some artistic and spiritual interests, enjoys decorating and making an oasis of her home, pampering herself, and stuff like that. And the ESTP will read or watch TV or play video games on his own.
@@Multitudes_ Right - I feel like if anything, the way that ESFPs recharge is more to prepare themselves for others, whereas ESTPs will genuinely let themselves rest for the sake of resting? E.g. ESFP will pamper themselves or decorate their home so as to look more presentable to others the next time they interact with them while ESTP will seek enjoyable experiences alone (like hiking or outdoorsy stuff) just to take a load off :)
I totally agree, but that might just be my experience. I have a fairly close ESFP friend who's energy for social events seems endless. He is also not super selective with the people he chooses as friends because he genuinely wants to get along with everyone, although this doesn't always work (I guess it's because of Fi's strong value system).
Yet, I have an ESTP partner who could easily be mistaken for an introvert. He doesn't have a lot of friends, and the ones he does have, he barely sees. He is usually super busy with work, but he goes out of his way to spend his free time on his own. I am an INFJ and I'm pretty much the only person he can stand, but he usually burns out if social interaction is too prolonged. A lot of times I am the one that schedules the reunions, unless he feels extremely alone and he calls me.
INTJ - I guess I agree with the placement, not just because of the "anti-socialness", but especially because of the tendency to isolate ourself. I've noticed that I see a lot (pretty much everybody in my life) as disposable (which is probably problematic). As in I'm not emotionally dependent on them in the slythest and could cut them out of my life without facing any concequences or iritations. I tend to ignore people that I don't need (here we are with the stereotypes) and find myself thinking that I don't need other people in my life, even though I'm absolutly aware that we are a social species and need each other to survive. So I agree, though I think it could be a trade that can easily overtake our lifes in a self-distructive way.
ENFP here. It's really hard to explain the energy charges and drains from people sometimes. I have just had 3 days of rock music and hugging people, and now 2 days at home just enjoying my own time. :) I also love hanging out with introverts online on streams in the evenings. An awful lot of INFPs on there it appears! I get my energy from lovely people, but can have it drained way too easy by a bad experience or rude people.
ENFP as well and agree!! I agree I have a couple introverted friends that I find. Sometimes they’re too introverted for me that that it really drains me being on the carry the conversation. But then I find some people too highly extroverted for me also.
(INTJ) Depending on your definition of extroversion, I think that's a fair assessment. But in the more pop-psychology watered down definition, where extroversion basically just means outgoingness and a tendency to be social, I have INFP friends and an INFJ best friend (note, just the one INFJ - they're very tricky in this sense!) who are far more "introverted" than I am.
When it comes to parties or being the one who has to talk to the humans at shops, I'm often given the job of being the "outgoing" one. It's knackering, but I can do it -- and sometimes I might even enjoy it. Though I won't be able to get to sleep. Ask the other INTJs, they'll probably say the same thing.
I think blind-spot Fe can be a superpower in this regard. My INFJ best friend is constantly afraid that people, including himself, will commit social errors and gets stuck analysis paralysis. I don't really give a f**k. So I can blunder on through the night spouting my opinions or getting what I want without overly concerning myself with the vibe of the room.
Yep. We can get mistaken for extroverts because our Te can go on and on without a worry. I remember I went on a trip to South America with my isfp friend. I knew socially she's more extroverted and I was like " excellent I won't have to talk she can be the exteovert" well she looked up and down all the aussies travwlling with us and said "I don't like these people" and shut down lol. I had to be the extrovert for like 2+ weeks and it was exhausting. You're with people from daybreak to midnight daily.
Totally agree, same with me and my INFJ friend, actually I was surprised seeing INFJ to the right of INTJ. Because to make my friend leave his house is kind of huge deal...
Well, you know, sometimes I don't mind be "outgoing", because there are things that I would like try, that demand participation of others (e.g., table games, birthday parties and so on). It's not like I'm extremely fine with socialising (though it's only about close circle of friends, noone more), it's rather that I enjoy my plan being fulfilled.
Maybe sometimes for me, but I think I’m deeply introverted as I get worn out in a few hours and I’m not very outgoing, but that may be more social anxiety. It’s really interesting, but INTJs can be really charasmatic
@@s.w.126strawberry6 INFP?
9:01 YES. I just attended a Graduation Party that was planned months in advance, which I'm glad it was because it gave me plenty of time to get ready for the event. I spent hours planning on what to wear - does it go with the theme? Is it too much? How will I do my makeup, my hair? What is the optimal time to get there and leave?
Finally the day arrived, things went well according to plan. Spent 2.5 hours there, had fun with the friends, went home - DRAINED. I ended up taking a 3 hour nap. I was then reminded how the lockdown had such a healing effect on my mental being because pre-pandemic, I was constantly DRAINED. It didn't occur to me until later that the cause was the constant physical stimuli of being in a social setting that didn't satiate what my brain needed.
That 2.5 hours of socializing in a big crowd will require weeks, hoping not months to recover because I still want to be around people but not necessarily talking to all of them.
You are in the process of figuring out how to solve your problems. Keep it going.
Relatable. I'm more refreshed in pandemic than prior.
I do think there is an interesting dichotomy between whether INTP or INTJs are more introverted. As an INTJ I would say I am far more assertive in social situations than the INTPs I know, I will organise meeting up with friends and larger social events, and I am quick to respond to messages. However I agree it is also true that I can not talk to anyone for a week if I have a project I really want to focus on, and not suffer that much loneliness, in fact I often find not having any social interaction at all for a day (and I mean none, even a tiny amount shifts my state of mind) to be incredibly refreshing. The INTPs I know may do the same, but generally they enter a more turbulent mental state when they do.
Ohh so dominant daddy come dominate me on the bed my intj dictator, i love being oppressed and put behind bars while getting tortured and tied helplessly. Ohh so powerful ohhh yess ohhh almighty intj hallelujah my dominant partner long live intj ohhhh hallelujah
Same here, fellow INTJ :)
Same. I tend to notice I have to actively reach intps as an INTJ more if I work with them on anything. Though I do notice they are more likely to take part in vices than intjs. I think that is a part of it. Intjs also tend to have more hyper-focus to something while intps are more lax and passive.
Also, the hyper-focus of intjs is more likely to avoid people for the sake of concentrating on the task or subject at hand. The passivity of the intp makes it more likely for them to open up.
This is true! I do believe that I am pretty socially assertive, definitely more than my INTP and ISFP friends. As an INTJ, I enjoy my solitude but when I do want to spend time with someone I will take the initiative to do so by msging them first and reply quickly to msges. However if I don't want to talk to you, then I'll take pretty long to reply to your msges lol.
Another area I noticed where I am more assertive is in work. I'm usually proactive and respond to msges as soon as I can while my ISFP friend is more passive (I'm not generalising, this may just be her).
I think for INTJs if we care about something, we go all out. Otherwise, we just don't bother 😂
The whole social introversion extraversion dichotomy is exactly why I keep going back and forth if I'm an INTP. I am certain of my functions, and 99% sure of the order.
But although I don't plan get togethers with people, I enjoy them immensely when people engage with me.
I just need some input to generate output, and will not get tired as long as others don't. It is just that I care slightly more about logic than feelings.
It might also thinking this because most of my friends are (suspected) IxxJs xD.
Same here, I'm almost 100% percent sure I'm an INTP, however over the past few years I've become a lot more extroverted than i was before. I'm still an introvert but I find myself craving to go out sometimes with people, have nice conversations, and experience new things.
Social introversion and extraversion have little to-do with M.B.T.I. (or only one small part of it if they do). You can be an INTP and a social extrovert (at-least situationally). You can be an ESFP and a social introvert. These are just average tendencies, not absolutes.
I'm actually an INFP who's actually an extrovert on the Big 5 which I found interesting. Especially considering where this video placed INFPs. I"m not surprised tbh I feel like the most ENFP INFP ever lol. Your explanation was well nuanced though, especially on the role of Fe and Se in INFPs :)
Fake infp but hi, ur extrovert because u want to drain extrovert energy. And ur feeler so ur emotional and emotional damage is u when u don't act extrovert so hi infp hi. U people pleaser because, feeler, duh? Obv u extrovert hi
@@Jasturtle Ok then, whatever floats your boat I guess...
@@lbell9695 wow so dominant and powerful wow
I find some INFPs pretty extroverted as well. It must depend on the person.
You could just be a mis-typed/dreamier ENFP, to be honest. INFPs for what I know are by far the least-extraverted of all the 16 types. With every other type the specific social dimension of extroversion and introversion (including ambivert ion) can vary within wide-enough limits (for different reasons), INFPs stand to me as at least 90%-introverted. They’re smiley and amiable but they really don’t seem to like being put into social situations with anyone other than their most tight-knit circles. They might go to parties if they’re extremely-familiar with at least a few people (not just one person, I’ve found) there but you tend not to see them at festivals, clubs and whatnot at all (ditto for INTJs). ISFPs (at least the ones with a bit of dopamine-receptivity), INFJs and ISTJs, mhm (kind-of, at least). INFPs, INTJs and even ISFJs (who tend to be quite sensitive to external stimulation and not appreciate it that much, however comfortable they feel in more intimate social circles), not so much. (From my observations.)
Thank you Nathan for the new material on the ESFJ…I feel understood and appreciated. I admire so many of the other personality types and wish I had their qualities..INFP is my favourite. I have an INFP friend and I grew the most in self awareness because of the friendship. It was hard, but necessary growth needed.
I have to say this comment actually made me sob 😭😭 I’m an INFP and my mom is ESFJ
@@MoonArt2075 as an INFP I would love to have an ESFJ friend
INTJ female here. He's 100% correct. I love being alone and in my head. My friends have to book interactions in advance with me, and no more than once every few months. I have friends I haven't seen in years, and I'm ok with that.. I have no problem declining social gatherings. Especially if there may be more than 3 ppl present. Strangers can be exhausting. Who needs a million friends? Give me 2 or 3 good ones and I'm set.
Ya but intps usually dont even have friends do they dont even have pre booked interaction
As an INFJ I would place myself somewhere in the middle of Introversion and Ambiversion. That is, one or two points towards introversion from where you placed INFJ. I am usually very introverted and show extroversion only when I’m very comfortable around the people I’m with (which doesn’t happen so often), and when I feel that I need to act extroverted at a job interview (I’ve become much more comfortable in my introvert skin though and don’t really do that anymore, in fact I tell them I am introverted and that I’m usually a quiet employee) or some other occasion which is temporary. My energy gets drained in no time when I step into Extroversion mode.
Okey, but why are you literally me ? 😭
In my opinion, ENFPs are the most Introverted of the extroverts, and INFJs are the most extroverted out of the introverts.
So his graphic is almost right with your opinion lmao
No I’d say ISFJ’s are a bit more extroverted than INFJ’s. Obviously depends on the person but it’s hard to find an ISFJ who’s a complete loner whereas certain INFJ’s can go into Ni-Ti for as long as they want and barely go to Fe.
My INFJ mom is so private, yet has amazing social skills. She gets so many phone calls every day from people just dumping their problems on her because she is that person who's willing to give her time to listen, sympathize, and advice. But then at the same time, she hides her inner self from the whole world and bares all that pain by herself. It kind of amazes me.
@@DragonshotProductions I absolutely agree. I don't really mind no interaction with people for longer as an INFJ but seek them out nevertheless. Yet I've never seen an ISFJ who is like that, they sometimes literally suffer if they can't use their Fe. It's probably because they're Si doms, so information to process comes from the real physical world, whereas in Ni anything is possible, Ni will find a concept out of nowhere and be happy to process it without any outward stimulation.
But Si means you are more grounded, more environment, real things focus then Ni so in that matter it’s normal that between Si Fe and Ni Fe Si Fe is more extroverted than Infj
Hey 👋 I really appreciate what you do. Thank you for sharing this valuable knowledge on this platform. You are greatly valued.
This is a really lovely comment to get, especially from a fellow creator. Thank you! ~ Nathan
Side note. Enneagram types allow for huge variation between each of the types. I’m an Infj type 5 enneagram and I barely talk. By contrast my enneagram type 2 friend has soo many friends and loves to converse
Interesting, I’m an INFJ, my enneagram is either 1 or 2 I have yet to figure out which one I am because I can relate to both. But I don’t really like to socialize, my percentage on the MBTI test for being introverted is 80%, and I don’t have many friends, just a few close ones.
(ISTP)I feel like I can easily be alone 80% of the time on a daily basis. I tend to go where people are (church, errands) to stay psychologically healthy with a pleasant support network. But being alone is my happy place. I have more to offer others if I am given majority alone time.
Sometimes I wonder if, on some level, I subconsciously gave myself my autoimmune illness so people would stop making so many demands on me. But alas, physical impairment is a double-edged sword. 😶😔
I expected INFJ to be at the middle, but after you explained your placement, it actually makes more sense.
Thanks for this. I think it's helped me more with figuring out my dad's type.
It has to be said that there are people of pretty much any type (with the probable exception of INFPs) who range from very introverted to very extraverted. These are just general tendencies so it might-well be that you per se really are smack-bang in the middle.
As an ENFP (finally I got my type right), I am pretty much an introvert and live in my dungeon (read: bedroom) most of the time. But I can be an extrovert when I have to (i.e. when I'm surrounded by introverts and nobody wants to initiate a conversation). Having a "I love people" phase to "don't bother me, leave me alone" phase is such an unpredictable traits. I guess, even the ENFPs themselves are confused as well lols...
I think I (ENFP) cycle between “I love people” and “don’t bother me, leave me alone” every couple of hours during the day!
@@tundracon pretty much so in my life 😂😂
I would rate ESFP higher on the scale probably second rigth after ESFJ. They seem to be pretty keen on being the center of attention from what i have seen but i could be wrong. I also agree with INTJ being more introverted than INTP because INTP can be really talkative with others when they share interest and hobbies. Plus they like hearing ideas from other people.
I think ESFJ's want others to like them on a personal level, and ESFPs and ESTPs want to be centers of attention.
I have to agree with all of this as an ESFJ married to an INTP.
As an ESFJ myself it depends on the situation. Sometimes it feels like that a highly caffeinated ESFP in a physical environment is more "over the top" than me on any day. Yes I can talk anyone to death or migraine like my lovely mother in law says. But the more party situation I'm somewhere looking aghast with a glass of champagne and trying to talk about opera (like a good Frasier). And I will not debate anyone forcefully and tastelessly. Excellent points 😃.
@@LittleMew133 yes 🤭😏. Can't help it.
Agreed 👍
INTP & INTJ really comes close to last. I’m INTP and my father is INTJ. He hates outside interaction however he’s more in touch with us family members. I avoid interacting with my family yet seek interactions from my peers, even it didn’t work. That was when I was in my most unhealthy state. Now I can feed myself, I’m quite more extroverted then my father. For me, social interactions is source of information.
I like how thoughtful you are about the third function
I am one of the entj’s that miss typed as an intj. You’re summary is dead on.
As an ISFJ, you are correct! I am indeed what one would consider an ambivert; I plan parties and group outings and have my calendar pretty much organized to a tee...but I can only handle 3 or so hours of socialization before I'm wiped for an entire week 🙃 I legit enjoy being on my own and/or being at home and chatting with my online friends, I don't need to be out and about and I generally keep to myself because I'm always thinking about what's next on my schedule or what needs to be done, so generally I think I might come off as a bit stand offish oop
My boss is intj and he is clearly the most introverted person I ever met. He loves the company of his books more than anything 😅
Proud to be the most extroverted of them all 😎
Proud to be the most introverted of them all 😎 lol
Same absolutely
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Enfp here an yup! We are certainly the ambivert of ambiverts
As an only child I grew up used to spending most of my time solitarily (my extended family lives far too), albeit primarily in my own realm of imagination comfortably, be it playing games, watching shows, simply day dreaming, my own brain box was filled with endless modes of way to keep myself entertained. To which thinking abt it now is perhaps the NeFi driving forwards
However, considering all the previous I did believe I was an introvert initially, but analyzing my social habits, I just love interacting with other ppl, I love environments that provide opportunities to socials. As a kid, give me the options of in person or home schooling and I’ll always pick in person, I just didn’t want to give up that outside stimulus of seeking the new or more abt others to satiate my curiosity. My Ne-Te side if you will
I do still get tired with draining ppl, I’ll need my own personal time after an entire days worth of intense socializing, and I would prefer those bouts go uninterrupted with even _more_ draining interactions (tho, if it’s the 1-2 person I rlly rlly rlly enjoy being around, they do opposite of draining, they help revitalize me quicker)
I think you need another vid breaking down social extroversion into its component parts - intellectual discussions, emoting, organising, gossiping, physical expression (yes, I'm talking about you, free-form dancing), etc, you get my drift. That should mix things up a bit.
Excellent as always.
While I am an ENTP, I initially typed as an INTP way back when I first completed the MBTI over 20 years ago. Reading the descriptions, it was immediately clear to me that I was (am!) an ENTP. Your description fits perfectly, especially about the hobbies/interests. I have little need or desire for social interaction and connection, but in true ENTP style, I find it energising when I participate.
Between me the INFP and my husband, the INFJ, I'm much more interested in social interaction, while he's more capable though very disinterested in it. I see INTJ, INTP, ISTP, INFP, ISFP, and INFJ huddling together at the end of the line all trying to get someone else to go say hello to all the other types that are having the shindig along the line. The extroverts and ambiverts all either don't notice the huddle of introverts or wonder what's their problem. Then the ISTJ burns out and leaves the screen entirely, and the ISFJ comes and chats us up as if nothing ever happened. Thank you for this video.
I'm an ISTJ. And I have very very few ones I consider close friends, like one or two close friends that stick with my real me till now. With social interaction, I'm not that introverted if I know and have 'data' about the situation/topic/conversation, etc. But if i'm not, it can be fairly drained if I stay in a too crowded place full of fellows I can't form a proper conversation. I went home, run out of battery and get headache for the rest of the day after that @@
But for a close friend who knew me for years, I had more meaningful long conversation and feel much recharged instead.
How I act depends on how much 'data' I knew about the social interaction. Otherwise, I'll leave soon and feel like a waste of time. I reckon other personalities/people just be like this as well.
I would just swap ISTP and ISTJ. I think ISTP gives off strong ambivert vibes, especially with their Se. ISTJs seem veryyy introverted, like if they saw someone in class doing something “wrong” they would strongly want to do something about it but end up doing nothing. They give off like anxious introvert. ISTP would notice, but probably wouldn’t care enough to mention it to them
@zeph kn not sure about all istps but I'm one and I'm much closer to ambivert than that even in tests I usually get just enough of introverted to get the I and not the E
Compared to the istjs I know, I'm wayyyyy more introverted.
@@isabellarose6514 I wrote this 7 months ago I change my mind about this 😂
I agree with everything you said the only thing I might add is being an ENTP I personally am a tried and true ambivert 100% and all my other ENTP buddies are the most Ambiverted people I’ve ever met that could just be us but otherwise I agree with everything lol
I'm ENTP here and I agree 100% we're just as ambiverted as ENFP imo
@@joshphillips2383 yeah
I'm an ENFP that always mistyped as INFP.
The reason we're the most introverted type is because a lot of our extroverting is done in our heads through pondering the outside world. Our Fi takes a backseat and we just let the madness flow. Eventually we hit a point where we have to sit with our Fi and ask for it's opinion on our new ideas. For me this looks like pacing alone in my backyard with headphones on, running scenarios through my head.
Oh my, I have two ESFJs in my immediate family; this statement about them being "social schedulers" is horribly true😂. They don't really allow themselves alone time, at least, it's not scheduled.
Dying laughing here. No alone time is not scheduled. Running the washing machine is. And art gallery openings. But self care 😳😳😒.
As INTP, yes, I can go for days with little interaction (living with Fi/Fe users and ESTJ, can't be completely alone).
But when someone mentions something I know about... Here I Come! XD
Most social interactions I have nowadays have a purpose; learn something new, practice a certain skill or distract myself when I don't feel like writing. I quickly lose interest after a couple days 😂😅😅
I know it's not fair to the others, but it's hard to connect with people I can't see face to face. (Too shy for face-time, I live in a vicious cycle)
INFJs are strange. We spend a lot of time learning to deal with people and socialize more easily, but we don't actually like utilizing it all that much. We enjoy isolating that expertise, and our social energy, into a few close relationships. To the people we're close to, we can express ourselves and sometimes even open up with greater energy and confidence, and that can make them think of us as extroverted. In reality, they are the exception to the rule.
Although we are able to function in large social settings, it drains us much more easily and makes us feel uncomfortable. I think most INFJs would prefer to stay quiet and uninvolved in such settings, as though blotting out all the social "noise" in order to focus on what they're comfortable with-- themselves, and maybe a small group of friends.
So true.
Completely agree! Always saw INFP inbetween Introvert and Ambivert but leaning more on the Introvert side...just like you placed them! 👍
You really do have amazing insight, Nathan. Always enjoy your videos.
ESFJs are so underrated, my ESFJ mom legit built me a support network in a country she's never been to, just by befriending a friend of a friend of a friend, and she seems to take the whole maintenance part of relationships with ease, where for me(ENFP), that's the hardest part. In favor-based economies, they'd be the billionaires.
Also I'm 100% certain my dad's an ENTJ mistyped as an INTJ, and this is a great explanation as to why.
That was extremely accurate in my experience.
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I am 100% an INTP and I struggle with social interactions so much and I even learn how to smile with people when the conversation is awkward (I think that I bring awkwardness to the discussions, I don't know🤷)
😅😅😅
"Like many content creators, let me abruptly jump to the far right!"
Ah ah, good one!
I’d love a video discussing your favourite personality psychology related books or just any other books in general
As an ISTP I'm omnivert, which means that sometimes I can be extrovert and sometimes introvert, there's no between and that's not the same as ambivert.
The way you speak and explain is admirable and your volcabulary range is incredible - INTJ
As an ENFP I strongly agree. I'm just a pure ambivert . The reason why I'm a little little more extroverted is because I have a passion for social interactions and people in general, and because of that, I want to know myself very well so I do a lot of introspection... i think that's why the bounarie between being introvet or exrovert is that thin for us ENFP's... ( I'm sorry, my english is so bad but I'm french so I hope you,ll understand 😅😅)
As an intj, I used to have difficulties connecting to people. Although I genuinely want to help due to the way I speak it sounds uncaring and insincere. As a team leader I need to find ways to connect to my team. I just recently learned that praising them is a great way to start a conversation...I know I have high standards so I don't want to give half meant praise but it seems like people truly like getting praised.
My father is an ISTJ. He’s always sat down to have dinner with us. Shares his wisdom. Listens to us. We can tell he enjoys it, especially the older he gets (and now that we visit instead of live there). But after an hour, he stands up and says, “ok, I’m gonna go rest for a while.” And then he just sits and watches tv or reads in silence for hours. My mom is an esfp and she can talk with us all day long, but she’ll retreat every 30 minutes to go talk on the phone for a while to a million different people throughout the day.
the fact that im intj and my best friend is esfj😭😭
I think that Ne doms are the most introverted extroverts because they are engaging with people to explore ideas
"Like many content creators, let me abrubtly jump to the far-right."
I'm dying. xD
Intps were spot on for me, i can feed myself quite well and living in a joint family, my family members are often upset by how much time i can spend on my own without interacting with them even though we live in essentially the same space 😅
Intj: when I was a kid, I’d get in trouble just for the time outs.
"Even if they(INTJs) have a broader circle, those people tend to be .......DISPOSABLE".
Couldn't have stated it more accurately.
As an ENTJ... I approve this description. I like to engage people when its interesting topics being discussed. If its small talk its hard for me to even pretend to be involved in the conversation.
The only thing I would switch here is ENTJ and ENTP positions. I think ENTP is way more outgoing than ENTJ.
"like many content creators, let me immediately jump to the far right" i spilled coffee on my self
- Fe is a socialising function which cares for people. So as ESTPs got Se-Fe on their dominant stack, and ESFPs got Se-Te as their dominant stack, ESTPs come off as more extroverted and connected with people possibly. For the same reason ENTPs are also more extroverted than ENFPs.
- Sensor versions of each types are more extroverted than the intuitive one.
Hope this helps.
~ ENFP-A
I’m an ambivert, a 52:48 precisely, leaning towards extroversion (ENTP)
- 006.3 (you know if you know)
And I do have those 2 modes you mentioned, I used to think I was an introvert until I improved my social skills, then I realised, people can be fun.
This was nicely enlightening, Nate.
You have ISTPs in the correct place.
-ISTP
I agree with the ISFJ being an ambivert. I personally have ISFJs in my life and they're pretty much what you've described. Although, I think of myself as an ISFJ too but i seem to be more introverted than them idk.
I am INTJ and let me tell you something. I am the most introverted person I know and most people I know are introverts.
Lmao 🤣
I'm ENFJ and I feel like Fe is exhausting. Especially with people I care about. I often feel responsible for their emotional well being. And I have to listen a lot because people want you to listen - a lot! And I have to emotionally "be there" in their story and stay attentive. And I have to do this almost every day for a couple of people at work and for my family. I talk a lot less than I listen.
I do enjoy this but it takes lots of energy. I need time where my thoughts can just wander and not be disturbed by anyone. And I need time where I'm not responsible for any other soul whatsoever.
As a female ISTP, I am often mistaken as an extrovert. When I'm with my people I enjoy them, but quite frequently. If I have the choice to pursue a project or a hobby or be with people, I will choose the hobby. And sometimes that isolation is bad for me. I think your placement was highly accurate!
This is great to hear. I'm often curious about how the types differ in terms of the genders. Female ISTPs, for example, often talk about how their type is seen with... weirdness by others - especially men. If you're in a sharing mood then feel free to join the LoveWho discord server. Would be cool to have more ISTPs on there! ~ Nathan
As an INFP I feel like I'm the most introverted person in the world. I have my parents, my 2 friends, and 3 other people who I'm close with and genuinely trust. What saddens me is that although I understand these few people very well, they do not understand me. I'm incredibly shy. My voice sounds like a fragile little mouse. To sum it up, I am the perfect definition on a shy, quiet, private person.
It's true but infp are pretty good at faking to be extroverted so it is just a metter of how your own personality has developed and wich aspects of it you are more capable of taking advantage to your social life. To me it was more easy when i was younger.
@@hopesky2879 I'm definitely not good at faking to be extroverted, but I know what you mean. I've seen other infps who are a lot better at being social than I am. The only time I can become social with strangers is when someone opens up about their life, because I love listening to them and guiding them towards an answer.
INTP - Ooh look the INFP is showing off with their 2 friends and 3 others they are close with.
@@Aoi_Fans lol
Those 3 people are actually my current guidance counselor, retired guidance counselor, and a retired teacher. As of my 2 friends, I met them 2 years ago. I spent all of elementary and middle school friendless and being bullied. So yeah, I'm showing off 😄
Agree when you say, if INTx types could feed themselves they will prefer being alone.
I was literally just putting that together today that I feel very flip floppy normally all or nothing mentality. As an enfp on feeling extremely introverted but then other times can be extremely extroverted. Randomly scrolled past this video cuz ive watch plenty of your videos before. So thank you for helping me confirm suspicion or give me the answer I was looking for a day ahead of when I had the thought xD
Most introverted to most Extroverted
INTP
INTJ
ISTP
INFP > INFJ (interchangeable)
ISTJ
ISFP
ISFJ
ENTP
ENFP
ENTJ
ESTJ
ESFP
ESTP
ENFJ
ESFJ
Well... of course everyone deserves some alone time here and there, it is not anything exclusive to ENFJ's, but I think we could have been closer to ambiverts on the spectrum. We get bored when we don't interact with people, but we are actually not as extroverted as it might seem to be the case at first sight. ^^"
I can agree with this
I agree with INFP and INTP, probably also INFJ. I only know an ISFJ who's over 60 and is like "disgusted by humans". For a healthy one, I totally see it possible to be ambiverted.
As an INFP I need connections, I want people to be around or available when I need them (mentally). But I can't function without occasionally turning inwards, which requires a place where I don't sense others and won't get approached by anyone. An exception may be my mom, who is also INFP and knows me well. If she doesn't talk, I can detach from my surroundings. Then I have an INTP friend with whom it could maybe work as well.
I can confirm. -your fellow ENTJ
AHHH YOU PLACED ENFP AT THE PERFECT PLACEE!!
I do pretty much agree with this ranking, even for the few people I know well enough to guess their types. I’ll add my little observations about those I know.
INTP (me): At first I was surprised that we were not the lowest, but it does make sense. Sometimes I have interesting thoughts or ideas that I want to share with someone, although finding someone who’s interested is another story.
ESFP(little sister): I know she is an extrovert, but she definitely has a lot of introvert moments. She gets very angry at peoples stupid behavior when in public and has meltdowns often. I’m not saying this is typical of her type, this is just her specifically.
INFJ (mom): She can be very social if she needs to be, especially at a family gathering. Otherwise she doesn’t talk much and can be seen as standoffish. We just talked about this actually, and she says people often think she is a snob because of this.
ISTP (step-dad): He is very similar to my mom in that he can be very social when he needs to be, but he’s also better at being social with strangers than my mom is. However, he can be overwhelmed very quickly and by stupid things and when he is home he will often be very grumpy and have to retreat to be by himself.
ENFP (close friend): I love this friend because she is the one who usually takes me out of my comfort zone so I get out of the house, but I’m often surprised at how much of an emotional person she is. Even though I’m not good at texting, she’s one of the people who I often keep in touch with because she always seems to be having a hard time in her current situation and she’s always so appreciative of when I try. She had Covid recently the first time and had a very difficult time not being around people. However, I know she does like to be by herself sometimes and she’s very introspective.
This post was written with speech to text on my phone because I am lazy; sorry for spelling and grammatical errors. I’m too lazy to go find them and fix them.
Im an ISFJ, and i have social anxiety, hate being with people and rather be alone all time. I enjoy alone activities like reading, writing, or just being alone with my phone. I only have 2 friends, so yeah.
I'd love to see you make a video of which types are most like each other. So it'd be like a circle. And the ones at the opposite sides of the circle are least like each other. Hopefully this makes sense, I've never seen anyone do this.
I mean, you can kinda see it if you use cognitive functions.
For example, an INFJ might behave somewhat similarly to ENFJs, ISFJs or INTJs. Depending on the situation and on what they have to do.
The types most different aren't necessarily the opposite types, they are the ones that use INFJs blindspot function as their dominant. That would be: ESTJs, and ENTJs.
Keep in mind that this is just how I personally see things. It's not objectively true.
ENFJ here, I feel compelled to accommodate others when I'm with them. I like being alone a lot because I'm freed from my own internal pressure to care take. Think of Elva from Eragon before she was released from the magically compulsion to be a shield to people.
As an INTJ, I agree with the placement. I can appear to be very sociable and confident, but there are times I can barely drag myself out of the house because I just want to stay home and be alone. I almost always task my INFP husband with dealing with new or strange people and situations while I plot and plan and play power behind the throne.
I'm an INFP and my husband is INTJ. We love being at home together and can talk for hours on obscure topics that we find interesting. It's a good combo, but we can be pretty slack at actually getting stuff done : |
@@riversong_ Definitely the same. Our house could best be described as college student clutter and we are pushing 50. Kind of sad, but it works for us.