How to Eliminate Heat Soak on Your Supercharged GT500
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- As your engine gets hotter it doesn't run as efficiently and results in power loss.
Today we discuss heat soak - what it is, what it does, and how to prevent it with a step-by-step install of VMP's Dual Fan Triple Pass Heat Exchanger.
Items in this video include:
✪ VMP Dual Fan Triple Pass Heat Exchanger: bit.ly/19-May-P...
I just installed the VMP triple pass heat exchanger on my 07 gt500. Wow, what a difference it makes especially out here in the Texas heat! Thank you VMP!
Great to hear G!!
How much did it help with your iat2s? Whats the temp difference between what you had previously?
@@magdalenomancilla7703
I haven't data logged my car so I don't know my current IAT2 Temps. The biggest difference is I'm spinning in 90+ degree Temps with AC on. That wasn't happening with the stock heat exchanger.
@@rextm5396 Let me know if u ever do. I would like to see actual real world texas weather results haha. I will probably be installing one on my 03 cobra soon
Justin is the best guy for the business. I personal had business with Justin on the phone and he walked me through everything perfect, a true nice guy who really cares. Every up grade on my 2007 GT500 is a VMP. My next purchase is a VMP blower.
Justin line the catch bucket with a garbage bag. Then you can reuse the fluid and not worry about cross contamination from a dirty bucket. Plus the bucket stays clean and you just throw away the bag. Just cut the corner of the bag when you are refilling the radiator..
That's a good idea.
@@VMPPerformanceTV I started doing it with coolant and oil.. Makes everything less messy.. Great video..like to see the owner wrenching. Gives you more credibility on your products and knowledge.
Good tip!
A true Testament to VMP blowers Cletus just did a retune on neighbor made over 800 wheel horsepower and you know how he beats on that car your blower has been on there more than a year still going you make awesome products if anybody's looking to up their game on a Mustang this is the place to go your blowers continue to outperform all the others
Thanks, Robert!
ive had mine for 2+ years with zero issues and stellar performance... It works and it works well... great vid
Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback, John!
finally got one on order. I run road couses and 30 min sessions. Most cars will over heat in that time. but my buddy bought one of these coolers and was able to keep under 210 coolant and oil temps at 90 degrees F. My stock at the time gt 500 was at 215 and hit 220 at one point at which i pulled in the pits.
Great! Hope you're happy with it.
I'm still running the Roush heat exchanger. I'll be buying this soon! Thanks for this video✌️
Great! Let us know when you're ready!
Love this dude and his content, even tho this is an older one ..
We just installed mine. I hope we did it right. The fans come on as soon as I start the engine.🤷♂️
The roush heat exchanger I have has to go. Getting my IATs down is priority before more hp mods. Love this setup cant wait to pick it up.
Ordering this today to help my new to me 2012 gt500.
Great they are in stock
I couldn't really see when he was hooking the wires up to the inner cooler pump. If anyone knows the proper way it would be much appreciated. Thank you
07-12 pump is on top of the he abs gets moved under the headlight, 13-14 pump is mounted on the front of the engine block.
@@VMPPerformanceTV yes I got that part. Mines a 13 so it's on the block I just wanted to make sure I hooked it up correctly because it looks like theres a couple different ways it could be plugged in.
Just set our harness up inline, make sure the connector locks in.
@@VMPPerformanceTV okay cool. Thank you. Also, I did not have a vaccume system when I filled it back up with fluid. I just left the cap off and kept filling it until the fill line stop going down. Should that be okay?
As long as it circulates you are fine, just pinch the bypass line since it's a 13-14 so you are able to see the flow in the tank.
Been a few years and have been missing my 03 Cobra. Want to get back into hobby and decided for a 13 14 Gt500. Love hellcats but they are all over the road. And with Vmps support for the build I don't think there will be a power variance between the 2. Awesome video definitely bought back some memories with the Cobra.
What is the before and after on the IAT2?
Super informative videos. Great work and a great group of guys to deal with. Lund should take some lessons from you guys on customer service.
I had a vortech SC on my 2001 cobra. I added a fan to the heat exchanger and it makes a difference. I could sit in traffic with the AC going and never got hot. I ran the shit out of it and still kept it in the safe zone. Cooling that coolant is important to longevity. Even on stock you should add a fan.
Content you guys put out has me hooked and it dope that you guys go step by step and explain what it does 💪🏼👍🏼
Thank you! Glad to have you as a fan :)
Thanks for the video Justin, was just talking with my wife about the traffic temps getting up into the 130s on the dash AIT.
IAT's in the dash are usually just at the MAF sensor, after the supercharger is usually even hotter.
For sure, when the relay died it was smoking hot in the logs on the 2nd ait
Still not sold on the little air dam that comes with the JLT after it gets warm in Minnesota. I see major changes in temp. I have tried to adjust the bucket to seal better on the hood mat.
Great content!! I’m learning so much from your channel....
Awesome! Glad you're enjoying the content we're providing.
I own a 2012 Gt500 and would love to install that heat exchanger.. what's the part #,?
Hey Jacinto. It's PN: VMP-SUC019 for the kit and we've included a link to it here: www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-Dual-Fan-Triple-Pass-Heat-Exchanger-for-Mustang-05-18-GT500-5.0L-GT_3
Like! Need something like this for the cobro's
We keep these in stock at VMP: www.vmpperformance.com/AFCO-Dual-FanHeat-Exchanger-for-03-04-Cobra
Great Video all be picking up soon and installing now that I have a video watch thanks, Justin.
Sweet! :)
Where can i find the pink supercharger coolant?
Just picked up one of these for my rouch charged 17 GT. Is there anything different I should know about installing it compared to the GT500?
Hey guys can you make a video installing this on a 2011 coyote so we can see the differences? I’m about ready to order this.
We can definitely add this to the list of potential video ideas
absolutely beautiful and perfect, outstanding job once again vmp,
ill eventually be buying one and making it work on my 03 cobra ; )
It has been done quite a few times, tight fit but works great.
So how much did it lower the IATs?
Great detail on the install !!!! Thanks 🙏
Hey Justin seeing you at cleetus and cars a few months back just wanted to give you a shout love all your videos. When I seen you guys I know your wife was expecting hope you guys had a healthy baby God bless you guys keep the videos rolling Les make some super VMP power
Thankyou, she's great. We'll be back to see cleetus soon, maybe we'll bring the baby!
Do the 07-12 GT500’s have driver and passenger air deflectors as well?
Do you know if any one has installed this setup on a Terminator Cobra?
I dont think theres physically enough room for it that is why the ones for the cobra are alot smaller the gt500 just has alot more room to put a big heat exchanger because of how its made and its just a bigger car in general.
*edit*
I stand corrected ppl have fit it to cobras but it will require custom mods to make it fit.
What are the average IAT’s on blower??????
Solid videos, man! 😎
Thanks!
I purchased for my 06 gt with m90 roush charger is there any cutting of wires or is it just plug and play ?
Wich relay is the intercooler pump for a 06 gt
does the fan run all the time and is this bad if it does? i just ordered 1 and im curious if the switch to turn it on and off is really a good idea
Yes it runs all the time and no should be fine. These cars get heat soaked pretty easily in every day stop n go traffic so the fans going all times really helps
Just bought one of these and dumping puny stock roush heat exchanger
I have a roush charger on my 06 did u have to do any cutting of wires or was it plug and play ?
@@Thelegendking-yj4bm Plug n play
After watching a lot of videos, it almost seems pointless to get a supercharger on a standard mustang gt, meaning all of the big power where the fun is, seems to be at the GT500 range.
Meaning, spending 9k to 12K for a supercharger seems worth it on a GT500 but not an S550
Oh well, most people can't control the stock mustang so I guess I at least understand traction.
With the standard Mustang GT, an additional 200whp is half again what they already make to the wheels and it absolutely transforms the driving experience of the vehicle. And that number is a mild estimate of the power increase when adding a supercharger. We have a lot of appreciation for both the GT500 and the Coyote based Mustangs and they definitely have pros and cons depending on what you're looking for out of your vehicle.
I have a 5.0 2017 Roush F150 with the small Roush IC. Would this fit my truck? If not, are there options out there
Yes! We have an F-150 upgrade kit! www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-Dual-Fan-Triple-Pass-Heat-Exchanger-for-Mustang-05-18-GT500-5.0L-GT_7
Can you tell us what what you charge for labor on this installation and or Approximate install time (2015 5.0 Mustang with Roush supercharged) Thanks :)
It's about 2-3hrs labor, give us a call. We also install them at some shows.
do you guys have one for an 06 Mustang roush cause im gettting pretty bad heat soak
I just ordered one for 06 gt with m90 roush
Is the Stock 13/14 HE dual pass?
Have you guys ever tested fans off vs. on to see how much of a difference they make in different conditions?
Some argue they aren't necessary and others swear by them.
Garrett no it’s not I don’t think it is BUT I know it has one fan ..... for those telling you it’s not worth tell them to put there hand on the blower and leave it in on .... if they can make it pass 10 secs I’ll give you the keys to my Shelby lol ......
I’ve use the triple pass before it’s needed trust me
Garrett no it’s not I don’t think it is BUT I know it has one fan ..... for those telling you it’s not worth tell them to put there hand on the blower and leave it in on .... if they can make it pass 10 secs I’ll give you the keys to my Shelby lol ......
I’ve use the triple pass before it’s needed trust me
Joseph Webb
I found that Department of Boost has done lots of tests on fans and generally they are not worth it they found. They make the best HE for S197 and it doesn’t run fans. The summary is that fans restrict flow going down the road and don’t move as much air as most think. Generally they are equivalent to driving like 10-15mph if I remember right from DOB tests. Many fans tested. It’s all on their website. They also talk about a few times when fans could be useful but also have arguments for that too. Fans are almost more of a marketing thing than anything. Best thing you can do is fence the cooler in with the radiator fan like the other coolers so it pulls air through the HE as well as the rest of the coolers. And radiator fans move a lot more air anyway. Also have to consider the extra draw fans add to your charging system. Not saying it’s wrong to run them, just not the hot shit that they seem.
Can this be used on a 03 Cobra with modified mounts? Thinking tubular crash support behind bumper with mounting tabs for the Gt500 H/E.
Good question. Would love to add this to my cobra
It will fit in a cobra but requires extreme modification to the front bumper and bumper support.
Will this work on a 2014 GT with a edelbrock s/c?
Yes it will! www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-Dual-Fan-Triple-Pass-Heat-Exchanger-for-Mustang-05-18-GT500-5.0L-GT_5
Hey guys hoping you can help I purchased this heat exchanger from you and had it put on my 2017 Roush stage 3. I also had a i a t harness from you guys installed for the tune from Lund. For some reason after getting it back my IATs that used to run 4 to 10 degrees above ambient temperature outside with my Roush heat exchanger are now running 25 to 35 degrees above ambient temperature. Thoughts?
Did you bleed the system with a vacuum tool like he showed in the video? You probably have an air pocket and the pump is cavitating.
Haven’t seen Donny in awhile. Is he still with Vmp?
No.
Will this fit on a 2007 roush stage3
Yes it will
Pretty cool.😅
Wondering if heat soak is my issue. My 07 gt500 falls on its face at wot. The SC basically shuts down with no boost. It only does this when its hot and humid. In the cold weather is runs very very well. The car is all stock except for a 2.6 metco pulley, tune and exhaust. Sometimes itll go into engine fail safe mode but recently it just loses boost. Its been 95+ here all week with insane humidity. Plz help!
Good morning! Have you had your tuner review a datalog to see what the IATs are doing? These car's ECU will pull timing once IATs are above a certain temperature, typically defined by your tune.
@@VMPPerformanceTV I've never had this car tuned. I bought it from a dealership 4 years ago. I've not touched anything on it. I am however looking into it. I have to assume it's getting heat soaked because there is so much heat coming out of the extractors in the hood. Below 70° outside this car always runs perfect.
We'd recommend getting a tune/tuner of your own ASAP so you can have logs reviewed and intimate knowledge of how your tune is set up. For example, it could've been tuned on a specific fuel type or for a specific altitude that's much different than what your environment or available fuels are. We offer tuning for these cars, and would be happy to assist. Just visit www.vmpperformance.com and check out the tuning portion of our website for more information.
@@VMPPerformanceTV I'll check it out ty!
No problem!
Do you have a GT from 18+ of these heat exchangers?
We used one on our 18 GT.
Is it still working for you ?
Could i make this fit on a 03 cobra?
Yes, some modifications required.
Maf racing
Get rid of the fans! Seal the HE to your condenser and seal that to the radiator. You'll have way better cooling and way better performance at speed.
1 Ls guy don't like this video lol
There's always that one....
When using power tools, mute video ffs
We'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the feedback.
Don't sweat it. I'm sure his ma, snores louder..