Ford F250 6.7 Powerstroke Diesel Review **HEAVY DIESEL MECHANIC** | Is It a GOOD Engine
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2023
- I Review a 2022 Ford F250 Super Duty with the 6.7 PowerStroke Diesel Engine. I go over the 6.7 powerstroke engine specs and horsepower. I go over the benefits of this 6.7 powerstroke Diesel engine, I talk about the issues this 6.7 diesel engine experiences. Lastly I give my opinion as a heavy Diesel Mechanic if this is a good engine or not.
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I hope everyone is having a good week! This week I dive into the world of ford super duty trucks! I get to drive a 2022 f250 with the diesel 6.7 powerstroke.
this powerstroke replaced the poorly built powestroke 6.0 engine and the powerstroke 6.4 diesel engine. both of which were not that reliable. luckily this newer engine is much more reliable. over the years ford has developed a couple different revisions and upgrades on the 6.7. the newest was in 2020 when they gave this engine a monstrous 475 hp and 1050 torques from factory which is insane. this truck is very fast.
they upgraded the pistons and fueling system mainly to get those extra power numbers in 2020.
5 things I like about the 6.7 powerstroke:
- Understroke engine. this is great for diesel is allows for very easy production of torque down low in the rpms
- reverse flow engine. makes complete sense with a turbo in the center of the v8
- Strengh, this 6.7 powerstroke is very strong. the main bearings have 6 bolts in them. better then the duramax and the cummins. the heads have 6 bolts per cylinder again better then the duramax and the cummins. the block was strenghened. just a very strong engine.
- elevated idle stock
- valvetrain is very reliable.
This engine is not perfect and there are some issues. the biggest issue is that this engine still uses the bosch CP4 fuel pump. this pump is known to fail and when it does it causes massive issues. the second biggest issue has to do the EGR. the egr cooler tends to clog as well as the EGR temp sensors failing.
I would highly recommend that if you are looking for a used powerstroke to stay above the years 2015. there were much more issues with the earlier powerstrokes then the newer ones.
Anyways guys I hope you liked the video! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
300,000 trouble free miles from my 2011 6.7 powerstroke. Still running like new.
who asked
@@quentonmillstid850Hater alert 🚨🚨
@@quentonmillstid850 You clicked on a video about reliability... numb-nuts
@@quentonmillstid850 right here. Me
@@user-hf2uv6mb6j that's the sound of the beast
This truck finally flipped me a loyal Chevy guy for 30 years..Had a 18 550 for work and was so impressed I went out and bought a 21 250 6.7 ..Made me a believer
Have had a Cummins and now a 22 Powerstroke. Absolutely in love with the Ford. It’s fast as hell and tows so nice. I give Ford’s engineers credit for trying something different and going hard after a good engine. It’s not perfect by any means but it has won me over.
What is the reliability of these engines? I can’t afford to repair one once off warranty. Considering this is an engine that evidently costs $25,000 dollars at least (it’s an almost $13,000 dollar upgrade from a v-8 gasoline engine that costs $11,000.
I really don’t care about horse power or torque beyond 400 hp and 800 lbs of torque. Yes it’s nice to have more but give me 1,000,000 mile reliability on the engine with 500,000 mile reliability on the transmission and I’m satisfied and might be able to justify thr $95,000 dollar cost.
But to have a $95,000 lead weight after 200,000 miles is not good at all.
@@bret9741the engine itself is considered a 400,000+ mile engine but the cp4 is where you get your issues
We’ve had our 2019 6.7 three years, if the 7.3 was available in 2019 I probably would have went for it but this truck is a towing beast and never disappoints.
I see you are in Alberta . We pulled our trailer with our 2019 Ford F250 6.7 Powerstroke from south Missouri to Jasper National Park in Alberta summer of 2022. The truck performed flawlessly and had awesome power. You live in a beautiful part of the world. Enjoyed your video.
I have a 2014 F-350 Powerstroke that I bought new and aside from a fuel pump issue it has been a phenomenal truck
How much did it cost to fix it?
Great video. I'm in the market for an F350 6.7. I was leaning towards 2015 and later. But now I think I'll look for a 2020+ thanks for taking the time making this video. I learned quite a bit on the new 6.7's.
The common man can't afford a new work truck. Cost as much as house these days
Finance it with high monthly payments! And once you’ve finally paid it off, it breaks, and time to repeat they cycle….but with higher monthly payments because stuff costs more after a few years.
I got one
You buy a house lately
@@bobconner422leave the city
@patrickstomlinsonkilledber3105
Live in the country closest neighbor is a 1/2 mile away
I'm blessed to drive a 2022 6.7 Powerstroke for work and absolutely love it... Awesome video, great info. Keep 'em coming...
Always well done videos. He knows what he is talking about and does not delve into areas he is not familiar with. Too many car you tubers have no clue about what they are talking about.
Thank you Scott! there are a lot more knowledgeable people out there but I try to be honest and tell you guys what I think!
1 of the best educational videos I’ve seen in a long time . I am seriously considering purchasing an F-350 or F-450 , 2023 models. I never owned a diesel engine before & trying learn as much as I can about owning & maintenance. I currently own a 2018 Ram 1500 crew cab Big Horn & plan on keeping it for a long time. But I want to get another truck & looking for an F-350 or F-450 to add as my second. I will be watching your video on the 7.3 Godzilla next , in case I decide to get an F-350 SRW crew cab , gas ⛽️. Thank you 🙏!
Loved watching this. About to buy this same truck/engine and was a great confidence booster going into my soon purchase. First diesel truck so it’s a big step and your video is making it nicer.
About to purchase a 2022 myself. Buying a cp4 bypass kit and a lot of fuel lube lol
I subscribed after watching this and your Duramax review. Excellent non-biased true mechanical review of the engine. Keep making the good videos!
Thank you sir!
I have a 2019 F350 6.7 and love it! I maintain regular maintenance and it has been a beast for me
Great video learned a lot I just bought a 2020 Ford F-350 with the same motor so I learned a lot about this motor and I offered her about the fuel pump going off.
High idle switch in ram is the cruise control. Not sure about the other guys. But also if you remote start it like he said it will do high idle on its own. Pretty cool feature.
great videos you put out. have you done a video on Ford 6.2? thanks for all the info.
Just sold my gen2 2015 6.7 with 210,000 and loved every min of it. had very little issuse with it besides def pump and 4wd. Until I peaked under the truck after a small oil leak to realize that I had motor oil leaking out of every single orifice all the way around the motor, fixed a few of the simple leaks… like vacuum pump that were caused by Ford torque specs, then got it traded in before it died. Never had problems with power and loved it…!! Just got the new 2022 chevy Duramax high country package. Seeing a serous loss of mpg under a load like 22/17 on highway down to 11/8 under a load, thought it was crazy to see such a drop, but that’s my only complaint so far.. love the new truck and enjoying it but miss the thought of having a Ford.
Love the videos man definitely my second favourite engine , nice to see Ford trying to repair the week links keep it up Alex !!
Thank you sir! happy to see you getting close to that 1000 Sub mark!
@@TheGettyAdventures thank you very much hopefully there is a ton of growth to come for the both of us
I love my 2018 ram cummins, however my biggest gripe would be the use of the 6 speed transmition. Ford and GM are using the 10 speed. I like your review on these trucks but ya im not a fan of those CP4`S. I would love to see how Ram counters this new powerstroke lol.
I just get 2022 Ford F 250 Power stroke and really like it. I was debating between Ford and Ram . Had couple Rams with Cummings before and really like the engine, but I can not get over the 6 speed transmission, maybe was just the truck I was testing, but honestly never driven truck before with such bad shifting transmission, take forever to downshift during acceleration . Driving Ford with 10 speed transmission was deciding factor to buy one.
Same here went with ford because all our trucks at work are ford and they can take abuse my work truck is a ecoboost 3.5 love it , our f450 trucks pull very well so a 6.7 was a easy decision for me
How you feel about fuel lubricants? Like archoil or hotshots? That seems like the fix for the CP4 time bomb. Great content btw. Thanks
Thank u for video it was very helpful and I’m plaining on getting a 2019 f250
Cummins 6.7 Ram has high idle. Using the cruise control buttons. On/set runs up to 1000 rpm, then +/- to raise to 1500 or back to 1000rpm.
Okay awesome I was not aware of that!
I have a 2016 F250 with the 6.7 currently with 189,000 miles. Love the truck. Great power and good fuel economy. I had the factory radiator start leaking around 160,000. I also know of another 2015 truck that had the same radiator issue around 150,000. The leak is common where the plastic is moulded to the aluminum. Only other issue has been a DEF tanker heater going out.
I’ve been through 2 DEF heaters on my 2011. Did the second one myself on a Saturday
Ram has a high idle switch that goes back to the early 3rd gens. However ford has the option to activate active regens at idle. I believe you have to tell the dealer to unlock it
You have wonderful content!! 🤘🏻 great job 👏🏻 I appreciate it
Awesome, awesome video. Is that wind howling in the conclusion? Will have to wait and see on the shorter pistons. I'm gonna cross diesel and gas engines so don't beat me up too much. GMs vortec engines had piston slap issues when they used short pistons. They were aluminum so prob needed extra space for expansion which is a likely cause of slap. Luckily S&S fueled has a DCR fuel pump replacement kit for these engines now. Seems there is now a way to eliminate the primary concern for these engines
Dude, your videos are so informative! good stuff man
What do you think about the transmission they have it paired with? Seems like the Allison is best, and we know the 63RFE with ram has limitations. Great videos by the way. You provide a lot more substance and useful information than the other CZcams reviewers. They are usually just surface level...
My 2008 F450 6.4 was AWESOME!! I loved the 6.9 mpg while towing and the constant stream of blown radiators was so much fun…
😂 they aren't that bad
@@rustyshackleford7265 yes Rusty, the 6.4’s were that bad. There are some diesel mechanics that won’t touch them. I owned 5 super duty diesel trucks since 2001. I am burned to a crisp with Ford. The 7.3’s leaked fluids like a net. My 2008 6.4 was an absolute joke. My 2011 6.7 was better but I still had a steady stream of big repairs. Then Ford started making their diesel trucks out of aluminum, that was the last straw. I don’t shoot plastic guns and I don’t drive tin trucks. I ordered a 2023 F-250 King Ranch a year ago. I keep getting emails from Ford telling me they can’t get this part or that part. When and if it comes in I’m gonna buy it, drive it home, park it in the barn and sell it and clear 15K or 20K in profit. But I won’t keep it.
@@markturner5207lmfao you realize how stupid you sound? Tin is not aluminum and if the body panels are STEEL dont mean it will survive a missle. Do you realize the frames and bumpers are STEEL not ALUMINUM and to my knowledge there is not a single piece of TIN on these trucks?
You dont plan on getting in a wreck and even if you do it doesn’t matter what the paper thin body panels are made out of your truck is ether totalled because of airbags or they just replace panels even if they were STEEL they still break when wrecked people dont bend the panels back and do body work like they used to
@@markturner5207you can’t just buy a new truck and sell it for a profit lol. Good luck with that plan
@@philliphols sorry to bust your bubble Phillip, but that’s exactly what I did with my 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser, bought it for 79k then in 2022 sold it for 94k. Btw, the ford finally did arrive, sticker price on it was 99k and it was a slapped together pos. I passed on it because I love my AT4 so much. The salesman had that pos ford sold before I left his office. So all is well.
My 05 Dodge 3500 5.9 and I bought this truck new and after the first year I put a intank Fleece dual gear motor pumps and one pump runs off factory harness the second pump has its own harness so the good thing is if one goes out the other will get you home and I have a lift pump pressure gauge on dash to watch my pumps and I put the Two filter kit with first filter is a big Baldwin 5 micron water separator with drain and the second filter is a cat filter is a 2 mircron filter and the third filter is in the stock location is a Balwin 5 mircron with water separator with drain and a light on dash to tell you that there is water in that filter and buy my fuel from Quick Trip fuel stop and they sell a ton of fuel and being a retired car hauler for GM I don’t buy fuel from a stop if a tanker is unloading their fuel because when they dump fuel in their tanks it stirs up anything that might be in their tanks and may not mean anything but that’s what I have always done .
I think it depends on how well you keep your truck maintained. If you do the regualr maintenance at the scheduled intervals or sooner then the truck should last you a long time. I personally do my scheduled maintence like oil/filter changes every 3000, trans oil/filter at 5000 miles if new for the first time and have the fluid purged then every 10,000. Change the transfer case at this time as well. Differential fluids at 5000 if new for the first time.
Great info!! I am about to get mine with the 6.7, do you think Archoil fuel additive would help prevent the CP4?
I live in Québec so i am use to snow and cold like you, could it help with condensation too?
I've had two 7.3 Powerstrokes and hotshotted with an 18 6.7 Scorpion. The 6.7 is one of the best I've ever encountered but if she breaks and is out of warranty, ya screwed. Keep it maintained, use the best oil and filters and work it hard, it'll be fine. Too sensitive though
clearly didnt own a 6.4 haha
Or a 6.0 lmao
Great collection of information.
Appreciate your advice and knowledge. Thank you.
How do you feel about the high output 6.7? Maybe a video of that one would be nice. Great video by the way!
Can only get the h.o. on the tremor package. I ordered a 2023 wth that motor a lariat crew 8' box. Dealer called months after the orderv was made and told me due to availability they are only putting that motor in the tremor package. And good luck getting a 2023 tremor in 23.
Thanks for your input, experience, and expertise.
Lots of great info. Much appreciated
Have a 2017 f250 146,000 running strong no issues yet first diesel truck. Been doing all the maintenance myself. 5,000 oil changes with fuel filters, clean Map sensor with trans filter at 30,000 miles.
Perfect sir! keeping up with the maintenance is the best thing you can do!
My 19 has 24K miles…not very many at all but I change the oil every 5K and fuel filter and air filters and drain the water every oil change
Not once has the mechanic told me that I had too much water. Bet this truck can go well over 200K-300K if its taken care of
Mine is.
is your truck deleted? I really want one but costly repairs have me undecided. Thank you
@@MrNitrojoquiPSD is one of the cheapest to um change things out on. Add a s&s disaster relief kit for the cp4 fuel pump and you are golden. Change fuel filters every oil change and do every oil change every 5,000 miles.
The scary part about the PSD is the cp4 failing and grenadine the entire fuel system. That's 12k when it goes bad. The kit is 300ish and is a huge piece of mind, absolutely huge. Pump fails? The extra inline Filters caught every piece of shrapnel from the pump.
I’ve noticed that we’re not seeing very many egr cooler issues since 2015. The earlier 6.7s had a lot of clogged egr coolers, But that problem seems to have been solved. We do very few egr coolers now. As for the fuel pumps, we’ve traced most failures to bad fuel and lack of maintenance. But when they do fail, they fail catastrophically.
Just a solid video. I have a 2022 F350 6.7 Powerstroke and agree the CP4 is a concern -so I am flipping the yellow water drain on the 1st of every month along with changing fuel filters every oil change to try and protect the pump. I do love the truck’s power. Thanks again for posting this video. Good stuff.
what’s the yellow water drain 😅
I use an additive as well
Yellow water drain?
@@kevinmcquitery4543it’s just the drain valve on the bottom of the filter housing. It’s yellow for visibility.
Nice video. Can you talk about the transmission next time.
The 10 speed. Yes I could talk about that
One thing i disagree with is. the 6.0 was far better than the 6.4. the 6.0 can actually be bullet proof'd and nearly be as good as the 7.3 in terms of reliability, it just costs way more to maintenance. the 6.4, no matter how much money you throw at it, it will grenade.
Spot on
Fair enough! I have heard a few people mention that the 6.0 was the better engine of the two. I have had the pleasure of working on a couple 6.4's and can confirm they are hot Garbage.
I have a deleted, bulletproof 6.0 and I love it. It’s been a reliable monster.
The 6.4 is total garbage.
I just traded in a 06 6.0 for a 2015 6.7. My 06 was a great truck but it was getting a little old and even if I bullet proofed it everything else on the truck was already 17 years old. I only ever had 3 problems with my truck, a bad FICM, 2 bad injectors, and a bad alternator, oh and someone tried to steal it right after I bought it. If I get the same results minus the attempted theft out of my 2015 I'll be a happy guy.
@@SgtAlThat’s funny because I just bought a 2020 6.7 for pretty much the same reasons.
I’m gonna miss the 6.0. The 6.7 is also a powerhouse but the lack of whistle and rattle is rather disappointing. It’s too quiet.
A tuned 6.0 with a quality exhaust system on it just sounds so good.
One thing I would think of is the heat dispersing into the surrounding areas, as bmw has found, at around 1000 miles the gaskets, plastic and rubber pipeline craps out, its actually harder to get rid of the heat
Cummins uses 2 main cap bolts because it’s an inline 6 engine. Crank naturally flexes less on a inline engine, needing less support.
Stanadyne now has a replacement for the CP4 in the 6.7s and is very similar to the old CP3 design. Would you consider a 6.7 powerstroke if that fuel pump was in the truck?
Good video, I started looking at the 6.7 a bit ago and was very impressed as I dug deeper into it. Personally Im a Cummins guy but Ford did good with this engine.
I believe FORD has taken a lot of credit for it...but I read that the engine was designed by an Austrian Company called AVL...U Can look it up...but anyway, doesn't matter,..it has proven to b a good platform... although a complete clusterfuck...🤣🤣👍👍
@@elroyelblander6277 I will have to check that out! Thanks for the info.
The power is nice but as a good friend of mine, Chili Palmer, once said, “Speed and Power is nice, but if your important….people will wait”.
With the 2023 adding pro power onboard, is idling these new diesels with the emissions systems ok. A friend destroyed his dpf and mechanic said it was because he idled too much
What are your thoughts on installing a "Disaster Prevention Kit" such as the one from SPE Motorsport? If the CP4 fails it would at least prevent contaminants from getting to the fuel rail or back to the tank.
Thank you. I appreciate the videos.
You didn’t address something very important to us Mountain West users…
How effective is the engine braking?
My 2009 Cumins dually has a very effective engine brake. Love it!
I couldn’t tolerate anything less effective with our steep grades/descents pulling loaded up trailers.
Overall great review of the current Powerstroke
I'll give props to Ford engineers with the fuel filter setup on them. Infinitely easier to do those fuel filters than on a Cummins. Ford put the fuel filter on top of the engine and the other one off to the side by the frame rail. Ram put the rear filter above the rear driveshaft and the other one is buried and you need a couple extensions and possibly a swivel joint to get that out...unless the last one didn't oil up the o-ring, then good luck getting that thing out.
we change our fuel filters on our rams in 5 minutes !
Ya, sure ya do….
@@mojo4376easier to do shit faster when you bought the $5,000 special tool that lets you do it 3 seconds faster lmao
The cp4 is extremely delicate. Any fuel contaminants can trash it. Changing fuel filters every oil change can help avoid this. Most people neglect the filter
a little more costly but it will save you in the long run!
I change the fuel filters ever 20K miles and have over 200k miles in my 2012 6.7L
Never have had any fuel problems.
Thank you so much for the information
2015 + Cummins have a high Idle option, by just hitting a couple bottoms on the steering wheel.. Nice to have
@getty adventure is it possible to replace fuel pump in advance on the power stroke & if so which brand/ manufacture do u recommend
Great video!
I liked the video. Being a diesel, what are your thoughts on that s&s disaster kit? s&s claims their kit will save your fuel system.
I am wondering the same thing. It would be an easy cure!!
The dcr from S&S corrects the cp4 problem for $2k. Worth it!
Love my 2020. The only concern for me was the transmission recall, but I knew it was a gamble for the first year 10 speed.
So your 10spd is still doing good? I have Godzilla with it. Been fine for me
I am considering buying a 2023 F-350. Have you looked over to new high output model? Other than power and torque do you see any changes and or any foresee any possible reliability issues. Thank you.
I have a 21 powerstroke with 170k 0 problems whatsoever. I have towed over 28,000lbs for 150k. I think there is not as many problems as everyone says. We also need to remember how many more ford's there is on the road than the other 2.
Great video. I just switched my 2015 dually Ram for a 2022 f450 and other than the weaker exhaust brake the ford wins hands down including fuel economy which surprised me
Did you have to get commercial insurance? What are your rates out of curiosity?
I have a 2021 F250. Does the "high idle" automatically start. ? First time I have heard of this feature. Secondly, when did they make it dual exhaust. ? I have the dual exhaust tip, but it is attached to a single exhaust.
Semi trucks you drive quite a few thousand miles before you doing oil change so yes, changing your fuel filters at every oil change or PM makes sense. But I’m pick up trucks not really I have a 6.6 L L5P diesel engine from General Motors.and I do mine every other oil change, and I use a good quality fuel filter, I like to use wicks fuel filters. Wicks fuel filters, filter, down to 2 µm with OEM filters filter down to 3 or 4 µm.
you aren't wrong, no need to change your fuel filters if you are doing oil every 5,000 miles but for the Cummins at least they recommend an oil change every 15,000 miles or 6 months so it makes sense there. I didn't look up the Powerstroke interval or Duramax but I of figured it would be similar so changing your fuel filters twice a year is probably where you would want to be.
Does anyone know if the CP4 issue was fixed in the 2023 redesign? I was considering a Ford, but pretty leery now.
Do Amercan Ford diesels run a vaporizer in the DEF exhaust system? I saw it on a European video about DEF issues and never heard of it in the states. I'm not a mechanic but I do a lot of at home repairs. It looked like changing the vaporizer was doable and he said it wasn't too expensive of a part.
I have a 2019 f350. Upper pan gasket leaks oil. It was fixed once under warranty but it’s leaking again. Coolant leak I fixed myself. Now a manifold leak. It’s an ok truck but the leaks annoy me. 127k miles on the clock
You have to have hi volume pump and at least 2 2 micron fuel filters with a very good water separator so good luck with that mess !
I prefer the front end appearance of the Ram much more. I love the keypad on the Fords. Wish Ram would add that cheap convenience and peace of mind
Still driving my 2002 7.3 been loading up on dividend stocks and gold and silver.
Me too best truck I have ever owned.
You should also tell people that you should probably replace the CP4 pump with a cp3 conversion kit. It's costly, but nowhere near as costly as repairing that fuel system. on a 2014 6.7, i found one for 750$
I have 2 LML trucks 2016 with 230k miles no issues and bone stock and a 2012 LML with 394k miles completely deleted I have the complete fuel system replaced at 260k(bad fuel?) neither have lift pumps, anything aftermarket on stock base never tuned. Cost me 4k to do the fuel system replacement damn cheaper that buying another truck
Nice video!
Yes! Liked and Subscribed.
Thank you sir!
GMs issue with CP4 was the lack of lift pump. I've had 2 CP4 powerstrokes and not one issue. The exact reason I never had issues was quality fuel. I only bought fuel from where I delivered it. I know where the fuel came from, the station it went into. I just never had fuel issues with my 2014 Volvo 730 either. Again I knew where the fuel came from.
Ok,fill us in on what and where to get The good fuel
@derrickwilson4588 well I have an in as I am a fuel hauler. And I would never buy fuel at a off brand station. It's not always the same terminal as the "top-tier" stations(Shell, Petro-Canada, Esso). Even the top tier independent stations can have the lower grade fuels(it's just the additive package) and some of brand can have top tier fuel(some Circle K). Always buy fuel at a location that sells lots of fuel(but isnt a shithole). Truck stops are usually higher priced but they sell the quantity and are less likely to have contaminated fuel(mixed fuel in the trailer) as the trucks only load 50,000l of diesel. It only takes 7% of the fuel to be gasoline to cause issues in the fuel system of any diesel. So if a driver didn't walk out a hose(procedure for switching tanks/fuel at a station) a 20ft hose has more than 30l sitting in it while laid out from truck to tite-fill(elbow to the in-ground tank) lots of small stations get their deliveries of all three(reg, diesel, premium) in one load. Procedure for most companies is to off load DIESEL FIRST. Beacise of the higher cost of contamination, and the tighter tolerances, gasoline engine will happily run a 18% diesel mix(depending on the engine). The main killer to the cp4 is water in fuel. Too many people fail to drain the water on a regular basis. It doesn't take much to hurt the pump. Water emulsfies in the fuel when it's moved, it will settle out after sitting. You can't load jet fuel into a tanker that last carried diesel fuel because of the risk of emulsifcation. Each compartment of jet fuel has to sit for a set time and then be tested for density/temperature and water content, before being sealed and shipped. Water in Jet fuel will bring down a plane. When its -40 to -60 at 39000ft, that will plug a fuel line for sure
I have an 11' with 240k so far. Original everything but water pump
Even the early ones are proven reliable
Arent there after market fuel pumps to replace the jump fuel pumps with
The more research I do, I am finding the CP4 issue is not as people make it seem. There were some issues with them but there are literally 100's of thousands of 6.7 's that have no Fuel pump issues! I think the video's make people sensitive to it. I'm not saying don't take precautions to make sure the filters are changed and use good diesel fuel, but I think this issue is overrated after speaking with multiple local diesel mechanics.
Ford had some issues with the early editions. And even they were often attributed to people not changing their fuel filters on time .
Does installation of a oil catch can fix the clogged EGR?
It's not the pump it's the fuel we use here in America
Can the CP3 pump be retrofitted on the 6.7?
Very well done video.
As a retired mechanic myself when it came time for me to purchase a new truck I had to eliminate the 6.7 Ford early on based solely on its use of the Bosch CP4.2 HPFP. I like the design of that engine otherwise. I also do not like that both Ford and RAM inject fuel on the exhaust stroke when a regeneration is commanded. GM has a "9th" injector that injects fuel directly into the exhaust system which prevents cylinder wash down and engine oil fuel dilution. The last reason the Ford 6.7 was off my list was because of upper oil pan leaks that required the cab to be removed to repair with an average cost of $4k. I heard this problem may be eliminated on the latest generation. The real bummer about this engine is it cannot be retrofitted with a CP3, there is not enough room in the valley where it mounts. Both the RAM 6.7 and the 6.6 LML (2011 to 2016) Duramax can be retrofitted. Like you I could never feel comfortable getting in that truck and not constantly worrying about that CP4 and risking $12k for replacing the entire fuel system and having to put a CP4 right back on it. Not in my lifetime.
Thanks again you knocked this one out of the park!
Yea kinda surprised he didn’t mention the upper oil pan leak issue that seems to plague some 6.7 PSD owners. It’s a very labor intensive and expensive repair.
Thank you Jim, and yes the CP4 pump just makes me very uneasy even though ford has had less failures it's still not something I want to get into. And like you mentioned if the pump does fail they give you another CP4 pump. I also agree with you about the fuel doser injector that GM uses. Much better design for regens. all the big Detroit Diesels I work on all use a separate fuel injector to inject fuel into the exhaust.
I read that the newer trucks did not suffer from this issue as much. that could be wrong but that's why I didn't mention it.
There’s a guy named Paul on YT that runs a fleet of emissions compliant Cummins trucks that routinely exceed 500k miles. The ram trucks are ridiculously reliable, mechanically. I love the ford truck, I just couldn’t drive it worry free with the 6.7 ford.
Don’t use junk fuel
2003 and up ram Cummins trucks have high idle turn on crude and hit set and you can bring it up to 1500 rpm
I was a powerstroke fan until I got tired of the constant issues from multiple 6.7’s. I’m going to Cummins on any newer trucks I get. The exhaust manifold location has caused major warranty issues for ford having holes melt through the block due to heat not being able to escape which is why no one else does that layout, better to loose minimal efficiency than to melt pistons, cylinder walls, and/or turbos. I haven’t had engine melt down personally but my buddy working at the dealer by me quit after getting tired of swapping engines, I have had multiple turbo meltdowns though once causing all the paint to burn off a hood. I have an 06 6.0, a 10 6.4 and have had multiple 7.3s all have been consistently more reliable than the 6.7 that can’t stay out of a shop bay. If the truck isn’t down it has ok power compared to the factory 6.0 but has nothing on the 6.4’s power or fuel mileage both are deleted, the 6.4 is an srw f350 vs the f450 6.7. Fuel mileage isn’t a fair comparison but the power output is
Have never heard of this in my entire life.
There are 6.7s out there with hundreds of thousands of miles. The new Cummins has many more issues…good luck😂
@@mattieice4689 I have and I’ve spent 2-3 times the sticker price in repairs on the 6.7p I’d rather take my chances and go back to Cummins, it they fail I can 12v it pretty easy
@@mattieice4689 more reliable than the 6.7p trucks that are constantly down. Cummins are used like a whore and loved like a queen by those who rely on Cummins and even many Cat fans. I’ve got an 06 cummins with 700k that was bought with 2.5 miles on it, I hate the mega cab aspect of the truck since I use a truck as a truck and it’s not the most practical for that but with the local inventory at the time it was what was available. I don’t like the cummins valve train all that much and the engineering is definitely better on the bigger engines I’m more used to but it can’t be anywhere close to as junk and overrated for white fanboys as the shit 7 powerstroke
@@ni1469friend, let me explain this to you simply, some cars just come off the factory line lemons, and nothing can fix them for whatever reason, get a different 6.7 and stop hitting asbestos, because 6.4s are literally how Ford got the moniker Found On the Road Dead
Good luck with the Cummins! Ford is still papa in the 6.7’s
2x4 against the pedal and the seat, move the seat to where you want it and boom, high idle. That kit cost me $0 on my old 12V Cummins.
Lmaoo the best way 🤣
Or a decently sized rock.
And on my 12V, it will NOT warm up, doesn't matter how long you let it idle, until it gets on the road for a few minutes. I need to look into getting one of the 'high idle' kits for my 12V :)
Knowing that there’s several 6.7s in the million+ mile club is enough for me.
You can get any diesel truck in the million mile club if you’re willing to throw enough money at it…
The Ram has a high idle feature as well. When idling you turn on the cruise control and push set and it high idles. You can also use the up and down for adjusting how high you want the idle.
Not sure if GM has a high idle in the newer trucks. I know they have a high idle “to warm the heater up quicker” but think that only works with the heater on.
I would imagine they would
How do you activate the high idle?
I agree. I will NOT touch a CP4. Not sure if it is true or not... I heard to remove the front cover requires removal of the oil pan. To remove the oil pan you need to remove the bell housing... And back.
I don't know about the procedure but it wouldn't surprise me
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Will this solution help?
+1. On a BMW, to put the box in neutral, you need to jack it up, get under the car, remove the lid, and insert the screwdriver into a special place. On a Volvo, to change the gas pump, it is necessary to disassemble the rear suspension. It's just some kind of horror.
I agree with the cp4 conclusion but when you speak about a Dodge Cummins. You can’t forget to talk about how bad their transmissions are unless you get a one ton with the aisen. That other tranny is garbage
Would love to see a video on the 6.7L High output engine. That is the one I ordered with my 2023 King Ranch version.
Can you run regular diesel with the p4 pump?
Cp4 disaster prevention kit. $200 and a few hours to install. Pump goes - you only have the pump to replace. Not the whole system. Not a replacement for a better pump - but it at least removes the risk of a $12k bill.
There’s no way to go “back” to a CP3 on these engines, as they never used one to begin with and there’s not enough space to put a CP3. Run good fuel, drain your water separator regularly, use an additive to increase fuel lubricity, and install a bypass kit to contain a catastrophic CP4 failure to the pump itself.
So here’s a stupid question. I don’t know anything about diesels but how much would it be to replace the CP4 fuel pump and upgrade with a better aftermarket option. Or is that even possible? Sounds like this may be the best diesel engine if the fuel pump wasn’t an issue?
Stanadyne is $2000, only fits up to 2019 or 20 (not sure). 21+ units are supposed to be coming soon.
Can I just replace the fuel pump super early? A year or two?