Top 50 Eurovision Songs Hurt by Televoting Score the Most in Grand Finals (2009-2018)
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- It's a list of 50 Eurovision songs since 2009 which were hurt by televoting points the most. For that, the difference in the jury score and the televote score of every song was divided by the maximim possible amount of points from the televoting or the jury.
The video includes songs which competed in the grand finals from 2009 to 2018 excluding 2013 (because of lack of needed data, split average rankings were published instead of split scores).
In case of a tie, the difference in televote's and jury's placements is the tie-breaker.
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In some of these cases the televoters were definitely right, but then you have other times and you think.... thank god for the juries. 😂
or neither of these are true because it is all about taste?
Just wanted to add that the 51st place is taken by Madame Monsieur - Mercy.
I feel you. I loved that song so much ;(
😭
AlexESC Woah. Great song actually
Bc people thought it was about thankfulness, ugh
rip
This is why the televote + jury system should never be changed! Sometimes televote sucks so hard, exactly the same way it's jury vote which sucks. Having a 50-50 system gaves at least the possibility that deseving songs will won the competition, because if they'll win then they must be both popular and have a lot of quality
It failed for three years in a row now though with utterly undeserving winners.
@@baktru keep the salt coming
@@FetteLatte I haven't heard any of the three winners of the last three years on the radio after say one week after their win. Mans Zelmerlow still very occasionally gets played. The Lithuanian song from last year has passed a few times. Obviously the Belgian entries did here of course mostly Laura Tesoro. When Lordi or Ruslana or way back when Waterloo won they were all over the radio.
I have never heard Jamala or Salvador or Netta outside of ESC videos. Never. That says a lot.
baktru Salvador won in both categories and is heard on Dutch radio, Jamala would have won either way as Well and Netta one Because of tele, tele Sucks most of the time That’s Why
@@rof1686 no. Australia would have won pre 2016. With the other system. For me the true winner is Sergey in 2016. Public wanted him clearly.
Same as Italy 2015 and I still don't get why the judges placed them so low.
2017 was Portugal. That's a fact And I agree with you.
2018 well. Let her have this win even though i dislike her. Public wanted it.
2019 I was happy for the judges because Norway is cool but not a Eurovision winner for me.
So i settle with the Netherlands.
Italy was my favourite though
Yeah... Sweden 2015 was hurt by the televote a lot, he went from 1st place to 1st place :0
Chris Fikke W
He only won cause the judges placed Italy extremly low.
Italy had way more televoting points and Sweden was just third in televoting
@@Philipp19967 Sweden deserved to win
@@Philipp19967 ”just third” like that is low or something. And coming third in juries isn’t ”really low” Sweden deserved to win
@@lucaswallo8127 yes absolutly because still until today heroes is my all time favourite esc song
Every Australia Entry is on this 😂
Itchy Platypus Because they were never bad
Lttle Monster it shows that they are heavily favoured by the Jury, I never said they were bad just that I pointed out that in comparison not many of the public vote for them.
Itchy Platypus Because many voters don't feel Australia deserves to be in it in the first place, which is fair enough I suppose.
First 2 year they were great, but last two year was really bad and overrated, televote gived what they deserved.
I don't know why Australia gets so low place from tele
Dear people, we truly let down:
- Austria & Italy 2018
- Australia every year except 2017
- Latvia 2015
- Denmark & The Netherlands 2017
- ITALY 2011!!!!!!
This is basically a "R.I.P. Malta" video :D
that's what you get for having no neighbours and diaspora
Happened again just a week ago lmfao
And also 2019
This proves that we need the juries in eurovision.
Mans clearly wasn't hurt that bad, seeing as he won.
I loved Running on Air, I can't understand how nobody votes for it
Italy 2012
Spain 2012
France 2009
The most underrated by televoting 💔
Kuula, Is It True, I Will Never Give Up On You, Start A Fire, L'amore e femmina, Quedate conmigo, Et s'il fallait le faire, No One, Monster Like Me, Sound Of Silence, Love Injected and Dance You Off are some of the biggest reasons why I'm against moving to solely televote. Norway 2015 would've been 17TH and y'all if that isn't a robbery I don't know what is.
Finally!! Someone who gets it 🤔
Hayley Brown so true. People say that the juries are all about politics. I don 't agree. More often than not I agree with the the jury. Me and my gitaar, Kuula, A monster like me, Cry no more, Love injected, Nobody but you, Silent storm, Start a fire and Coming home are all songs that I love that were totally underated nu the televoters.
Western pop music rarely has powerful ballads to hit the top. For some reason people don't appreciate ballads a lot here. At least in my experience.
Thanks jury for saving some great songs
Damn juries love northern europe, + Malta and Australia
Snowcold and The Netherlands!
Or that the rest of Europe votes for their allies and thus those that you mentioned just don’t get votes from the friendly countries...
Itchy Platypus scandinavan countries have been giving each other top scores since the begining of the contest and no one bats an eye. But everybody loses their shit if another group of countries, especially eastern european countries does the same (Balkans, baltics, etc.)
Snowcold Not really northern countries... more like scandinavian ones
Snowcold nope
A lot of people complain about Sweden. Reality is that Sweden produce very well made songs with good choreography and professional performance. Al tough 2018 was a bit extreme (He didn't deserve first place but somewhere in the middle would be fine) the jury votes not for fun/entertaining entries but for professional ones to even out the odds.
Sweden had 3 entries on here but in 2011 we got screwed by the jury as well so It's not all sunshine and happy days.
belgium, austria and norway have all been blessed by the jury as well and for the same reasons. Last year the winner won a lot thanks to the #Metoo campaign and all the talk around women justice. Sure this campaign was a good thing but it's not something that belongs in eurovision.
EndlessFX last year so bad normaæly sweden send gpod somgs but last yrar many other so gs was better but still they get hogh åoints from the juries not fair
Sometimes I really don't undertsnad the jury votes and want them gone (I'll never get over Il Volo not winning), but sometimes the jury also saves song I really really like.
Also I really like the way the voting results get revealed, so...
Anna I get where you're coming from. While I listened I was constantly thinking " my God what are the juries thinking" followed by " this song should've gotten more from the televoters". Most of the time I do agree with the juries though.
I'd rather have Italy 2011 winning (a classy beautiful song) than the cheesy boyband pop-opera (although they were much better than Russia and Sweden), 2015 should have been the year of Belgium, Latvia, Estonia
seriously, love injected is one of the best songs in the esc
No it isn't. Stop overrating it!
Crap
@@FannomacritaireSuomi the juries don't think the same, and they know about music, rather than you who only like shit
@@FannomacritaireSuomi yes it is, ugly
The vast majority of these are gems. So glad that the juries saved them from a really unfair result.
50. Miss Kiss Kiss Bang - Alex Swings Oscar Sings! (Germany 2009)
49. Outlaw In 'Em - Waylon (The Netherlands 2018)
48. No Degree Of Separation - Francesca Michielin (Italy 2016)
47. Midnight Gold - Nika Kocharov & Young Georgian Lolitaz (Georgia 2016)
46. Say Yay! - Barei (Spain 2016)
45. One Thing I Should Have Done - John Karayiannis (Cyprus 2015)
44. This Is The Night - Kurt Calleja (Malta 2012)
43. Where I Am - Anja Nissen (Denmark 2017)
42. You Let Me Walk Alone - Michael Schulte (Germany 2018)
41. Mall - Eugent Bushpepa (Albania 2018)
40. It's All About You - Juliana Pasha (Albania 2010)
39. What If We - Chiara (Malta 2009)
38. Silent Storm - Carl Espen (Norway 2014)
37. Kuula - Ott Lepland (Estonia 2012)
36. Slow Down - Douwe Bob (The Netherlands 2016)
35. Heroes - Mans Zelmerlow (Sweden 2015)
34. What's The Pressure - Laura Tesoro (Belgium 2016)
33. We Got Love - Jessica Mauboy (Australia 2018)
32. Believe Again - Niels Brinck (Denmark 2009)
31. Echo (You & I) - Anggun (France 2012)
30. Something Better - Softengine (Finland 2014)
29. Is It True? - Yohanna (Iceland 2009)
28. Never Give Up On You - Lucie Jones (United Kingdom 2017)
27. Be My Guest - Gaitana (Ukraine 2012)
26. I Can't Go On - Robin Bengtsson (Sweden 2017)
25. There Must Be Another Way - Noa & Mira Awad (Israel 2009)
24. Running On Air - Nathan Trent (Austria 2017)
23. Start A Fire - Dilara Kazimova (Azerbaijan 2014)
22. Tonight Again - Guy Sebastian (Australia 2015)
21. Grab The Moment - JOWST (Norway 2017)
20. L'Amore é Femmina (Out Of Love) - Nina Zilli (Italy 2012)
19. New Tomorrow - A Friend In London (Denmark 2011)
18. Quédate Conmigo - Pastora Soler (Spain 2012)
17. Et S'il Fallait le Faire - Patricia Kaas (France 2009)
16. Made Of Stars - Hovi Star (Israel 2016)
15. Milim - Harel Skaat (Israel 2010)
14. Coming Home - Firelight (Malta 2014)
13. The Secret Is Love - Nadine Beiler (Austria 2011)
12. Me And My Guitar - Tom Dice (Belgium 2010)
11. It's My Time - Jade Ewen (United Kingdom 2009)
10. No One - Maja Keuc (Slovenia 2011)
09. Lights And Shadows - O'G3NE (The Netherlands 2017)
08. Walk On Water - Ira Losco (Malta 2016)
07. A Monster Like Me - Morland & Debrah Scarlett (Norway 2015)
06. Sound Of Silence - Dami Im (Australia 2016)
05. Madness Of Love - Raphael Gualazzi (Italy 2011)
04. Love Injected - Aminata (Latvia 2015)
03. Don't Come Easy - Isaiah (Australia 2017)
02. Nobody But You - Cesar Sampson (Austria 2018)
01. Dance You Off - Benjamin Ingrosso (Sweden 2018)
Totally agree on Benjamin here. I still don't understand why he got so low score from the televoting, he was one of the best in 2018, nothing we can do about now. 7th place, it's top 10 at least. Wonder what scandal is gonna happen next year.
Damn, I agree with roughly 90% of these... I already preferred the tastes of the juries to the tele-voters as is, but this just solidifies it that much further.
Here's a quick comparison between this list and my top 10s for each contest since 2016:
2016: Australia (#1), Spain (#4), Malta (#9), and Belgium (#10) are all on the list, as well as Georgia (#11), The Netherlands (#13), and Israel (#14) who seriously contend for my current top 10.
2017: The Netherlands (#2), Denmark (#6), and UK (#8) are all on this list, as well as Norway (#11) and Australia (#12) who seriously contend for my current top 10 (or in Australia's case, are basically there already).
2018: The Netherlands (#4), Sweden (#6), Albania (#8), and Germany (#9) are all on this list, as well as Austria (#11) who should have been my #10 in hindsight...
I didn't do a formal list for 2015 that I can recall, but Australia, Norway, and Latvia were among my favorites from that year.
This video is proof that we need the juries. So many of my favourites in there, especially those that are not just basic pop music.
Oml Albania in 2018 were my absolute favs! So gutted they didn't place higher up or even win :(
Thanks from Albania 😍
#7 is one of my ALL TIME favourites. Will never understand how the televoting could be so bad. Aminata as well.
Damn, a lot of my favorites are here.
I am still a bit broken up by Og3ne from the Netherlands 2017. A song with top 5 quality who ended up on the 11the place because of the televoters.
One of the most underrated songs in Eurovision history in my opinion. But I don't think the live performance did them any favors
im still crying
Im still listening to the song! love it, what a shame it didnt do better
Sorry but I hated that song
Imagine this but with Sweden. No one would like this comment
Grab The Moment and Made Of Stars hurt me so much, they were so good and deserved better!
Yes :(
Austria 2018 - thank you jury😘😘😘
haha the best eurovision moment from 2018 was benjamim ignrosso getting only 21pts from tele!!!
What a petty person you are
Your profile picture fits this comment perfectly 😂😭
As a Swede I must agree. We don't want anything to do with him or his family (wannabe Kardashians). I cringed so much when he was elected in Sweden and even more when he got high scores from the jury. Yikes
I am a Swed, and last year I
was so exited when Sweden was in second place after the jury voting. But then the televote came... I couldn't belive it. 😢😢😢😢😢
Jag vet asså jag bara omg det händer och sen bara nope
@@Queen_1311 jag kunde inte tro mina egna ögon!
Benjamin Azcue asså vad as chockad
@@Queen_1311 Det var hemskt!
Benjamin Jonasson I år får vi hoppas att det går bättre.
50. Jury
49. Jury
48. Jury ❤️
47. Jury
46. Jury
45. Jury
44. Idk
43. Televoting (although it’s harsh)
42. thanks Jury ❤️
41. Jury ❤️
40. idk
39. idk
38. Jury
37. idk
36. Jury
35. Jury ❤️❤️❤️❤️
34. Jury ❤️
33. 🤔 a mix of both
32. idk
31. idk
30. Jury ❤️❤️
29. Televoting
28. Jury ❤️
27. idk
26. A mix of both
25. jury
24. Jury ❤️
23. Jury
22. Jury ❤️
21. Jury ❤️
20. Jury
19. 🤔 a mix of both
18. Jury
17. idk
16. Jury
15. Jury
14. Televoting
13. idk
12. Jury
11. Televoting
10. Jury
09. Jury ❤️
08. a mix of both
07. Jury ❤️❤️
06. Televoting
05. Jury
04. Jury
03. Jury (2 points is too harsh)
02. Televoting
01. Televoting of course he’s first here 😂
I really like this kind of videos from you.
Sweden getting 21 points from the televote in 2018 was one of the happiest moments in Eurovision for me
Bea Silveira32 yes because it was boring and unfair the jurues gave this song so high manipulation glad the viewers liked other so gs
Vindication for the 2015 result
It’s such a shame that in the uk, we have some of the most influential and famous musicians of all time and yet we send ok entry’s. And then when we do send good entry’s like lucie, the rest of Europe hates us so we never get any points 😕 the politics really screws some countries over
Sam J well dont leave EU then
I mean, why don't you all send As It Is or You Me At Six? They are great.
In all honesty, Lucie wasn't all that good. Not bad, certainly. But not better than the place she got. What was it, 15th out of 40 something countries? That's better than most. Imho all the songs that beat her really were better than hers.
To my mind, what has been the UK's problem for the most part of the last 20 years is that the songs tend to be of such a mediocrity that they're easily forgetable. In Eurovision there is one thing you need above all else and that is to stand out. Good songs stand out, weird songs stand out, even bad ones can stand out enough to get some pity points. Boring ones don't.
What about Blue? They came top 5 in the televoting
Sigh. It's not politics. The songs are mediocre. We should stop sending bland ballads. Esc has moved on, why can't we?
Can't say enough that Dami is robbed way too much! But atleast they got sweden right.
The televote sucks sometimes
*Political voting appears*
I mean
*Juries*
Several times** ballads get underrated all the time by televoters.
That's why we have 50-50 system...
You should do Top 50 Songs closest to qualifying for the final, maybe by how many points away from the 10th place they were out of the total, this would have a lot of new songs that people haven't heard as much.
Yes, I have already planned a video like this.
I feel bad for Malta. They hardly ever get support from the televoters
i really hate the juries and want them gone but some of my all time faves are in this video so I’m also glad that the juries exist. i just don’t know what i want😂
Konstantina LittleMix I sometimes have that feeling as well. But for the most part I am happy with the jury. The 50/50 system is as fair as it can get.
Shame that Cesar lost his chance because of televoting...
2011 such an unfair year
Albania 2010 (ranked 40) was one of my favorites :(
and RIP Norway. Appearing 3 times with amazing songs.
Thanks from Albania ❤
I worry why the national juries gave so many points to Sweden this year (2018)!
Immediately thought of Sweden from last year and there it is, lol that song got torn a new arse by the public and I was here for it. Hated the performance and the guy singing it was so into himself like he thought it was the coolest thing ever. So funny.
Could have added the info about jury-placement vs total placement, just to show the impact a bit better :)
Still interesting video
Also out of curiosity; was sweden 2013 close to making the list ? (Think it was 3rd in jurypoints but only placed 14th in total, so must have been quite a gap in points)
For me its still nathan trent
The only list that Benjamin Ingrosso deserved to become first in imo... I still have no idea why we sent him :/
David Eriksson i am Also swede, I would like to see Felix Sandman in the ESC 2018
Felix Sandman was 100% the better song, I just voted for it because it´s more unique and i felt for it :p
So many good songs in this video! What on earth was Europe thinking? #smh
Diaspora voting is the answer to your question.
Nutzername92a+++100
Europe can only vote for 1-2 memorable songs, other than that it is neighbour voting. A casual viewer can't digest 26 songs at once, there are more songs than your average Joe listens to in a whole year.
I'm gonaaaaa graaaab theee moooomennnttt ❤️
With Bulgaria, it's the other way round, the Jury screws us over, and the televoting is the one that always saves us.
Aminata was so robbed!! By far the best entry of that year, so artistic and she has an amazing voice !!!
Ira Losco's televoting points were almost an insult.
Waited way too long for this😂
Who will break Benjamin's record of 46% difference in the further contest? I am wonder who will commit this. But at least Elina from Estonia did better than him.
Elina better than everybody
Konstantin Derevosokroshchsky Volksgeist Federation sorry to ruin your happy moment but Benjamin got 7th and Elina 8th
Haggar Haggar thats not a problem at all. Apart from Elina, Cesar Sampson from Austria (nobody but you) was also great as my second favorite song, at least he was higher than him in both juries and televote (18 points higher in jury plus 50 points higher in televote).
I'm so angry at you for hating the juries all the time. Juries have saved so many beautiful entries (just as we see in this video). They get sometimes biased and vote certain countries every year: Sweden, Austria, Australia... But generally, televoters (and their epic sax guy memes) are much worse! All prayers go to Gabriela Gunčikova and Chiara 😓😓😓❤❤
FannomacritaireSuomi what‘s so bad about Austria? For me it seems like one of those countries which isnt actually involved in those political votings.
Australia and maybe Sweden get hyped too much
@@iarpdrivdsashayaway8771 Honestly, Austria got 4th last year... With a song deserving the 15th place. Also, the entry "Running" was overrated.
You have an aweosme channel and I must ask you:
- Which text do you use to make this awesome videos on your own channel?
- Which editor do you use to put this text in video?
- Do you Know how to crop title designs from Eurovision songs?
The reason Sweden’s song 2018 sounded so bad was because the backing vocalists sang way too load, listen to when he was at Melodifestivalen or the studio version
How can one not like "Milim"? Just HOW?????😢😍
Sweden 2018 was such a surprise that he and the song did not get supported by the audience.
Mad to think that juries and the public can be so far apart sometimes
8:56 one of thoose saved masterpieces she is talented
1 and 2 ARE SSOOOOO GOOD 😞💕💕💕💕
I just realiced that televoters ruined Spain 2012 and Slovenia 2011...
Wilder Otk and people still want to get rid of juries
I also love real ice
And Australia 2016
Bosnia & Herzegovina 2016
Poland 2016
Czech Republic 2018
F.Y.R. Macedonia 2016
Belgium 2017 (In semi-final)
Estonia 2017
Switzerland 2017
Czech Republic 2015
Ukraine 2018
Denmark 2018
Sweden 2010
Albania 2015
Poland 2014
Ireland 2014
Romania 2014
Montenegro 2013
Spain is always ruined by the televoters tho,,,
That song being number one on this list makes me so happy
This can also be seen as most benefited from juries
OMG! Jury >>> televoters. I like these songs, some of them are my favorites.
Yohanna tho 💕
Dami Im deserved better!
Heroes won, so that was hardly hurt by the televote. A big difference though.
I still cant believe Sweden 2018.... To this day I bop to that song xD
Im glad that this happened on 1st and 2nd
Morland & Scarlet, Aminata, Tom Dice, Pastora Soler... how on earth didn't they do better on the televote? 😮😮
And on the other hand, why would the jury push so much entries like Laura Tessoro's or Jessica Mauboy's?? And let's not talk about what they did to Italy this year.
I love Eurovision but I don't understand it 🤷
CrazyCatLady Prr Belgium 2016 was amazing! Old school funk/disco is not something you get to hear often in Eurovision, feel-good song thru and thru + her vocals sounded great considering she danced at the same time. As for Jessica Mauboy, her song was decent and positive, granted her live vocals were shaky (her voice cracked during the Grand Final performance). Totally agree with your sentiment regarding Italy :/
Kennet i don't dislike them, but there were much better songs and performances the years they were competing. That's all I'm saying.
The jury tries to fix the SHIT that running order does to the televote. Last entries always get favoured by the public because your average Joe/diaspora/neighbour voter can't remember 26 songs at once.
There are a lot of my favourites here
Are the percentages correct for 2016-18? Should the points available not be double because of the change in voting system?
Me and my guitar is the purest thing ever
As a swede I was EXTREMELY offended when dance u off got so few votes like why do y’all hate Sweden just bc they win so much
It would be interesting to make some statistics about how different countries are treated by juries/televote.
#11 was my 2nd in 2009.
I actually sang this outside the exam hall before I enter the hall for my first IAL exam. I know that it was my moment, treasured it and got a high score of 117/120.
I don't understand the relevance of the difference of the scores. Is it the possible scores they might have gotten if televotes were higher? But televotes and jury votes are different. Please explain.
I also loved Wake You Up by Ingrosso, Auchan good beat
Where I can get jury points on final 2009?
No1 2016 Dami im
**Australia, Malta and Sweden Buy juries**
Me:😑
Australia 2016,Norway 2015,Norway 2014 and Germany 2018 should have received more points from Televoting.
Well, many of these songs are beautifully produced, and I think that’s why the juryvote is higher than the televote. The juries look at the total package. The televoters, in my opinion, often votes for the best written music harmony and/or the most catchy tune. The votes for Ingrossos/Swedens song this year, were in my opinion totally overrated from the juries and totally underrated from the televoters. He deserved to be top 15, but not top 5, nor bottom 5.
Great and smart conclusion! :)
Lucie jones :(
The song of Malta 2012 was very good
This is not only due to differences in preferences or bias or populistic reasons, but juries get to vote differently than the TV audience: a jury member ranks all of the entries while a viewer usually just votes for his nr. 1 preference. Do a song that would be second for every viewer, and viewers only vote once, would never get points and end last.
A monster like me got 43 points from televote? Are you kidding me?
anggun not receiving any points from the televote is a crime against humanity
17 : It's France not Spain
Good job tho
Wait was Michał in the video or not?
Italy and Spain were amazingly robbed by televote. They both deserved top 5!
Seeing Australia got 2 televote points in 2017... I'm suddenly not so surprised anymore about their televote this year. Sheldon obviously had a better voice but Australia seems to have a tough time getting televotes
Bc they don’t have any neighbouring countries or amazing relations with any of the other competing countries. It is worth sooooo much in esc.
That's why juries are a good thing
i feel so sad for Latvia 2015, but Sweden 2018 make me feel better XD
Is Sweden 2018 first?
*watches video*
Yep, right where it should be.
I hated that song, I'm sorry :P
well then you have no taste in music
@@JuliaCheri me too
@@arvknu6614 No, they just have a different taste of music than you do. I personally disliked it as well since it's not the kind of stuff I listen to.
Jury always save sweden
big rip Ogene
Soo, there is no considiration for one of the most popular songs of the ESC MANGA- We Could
be the same????