Lucasfilm's Kennedy Suggests There Are No Star Wars Books Or Comics To Draw From
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Stephen Marchant - Greetings John and team. I had to shake my head and look again at what I was reading, but Kathleen Kennedy just said that part of what makes making Star Wars movies so hard is that unlike comic-book movies there is no source material to draw from. No books or comics. I couldn’t believe it. Is she THAT clueless? Help me understand!
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Didn't George Lucas hand them an outline for these movies?
You beat me to it by 10 minutes. Lol
Micah Twombley yes but they decided not to use it. I think they might’ve taken a couple things from the rough outline he gave them but for the most part they just decided to do their own story
Ugh! Part of me wishes they redo the Sequel Trilogy using GLs treatments.
Micah Twombley they were full of little kids and Jar Jar stepping in shit, I think.
They were essentially about midiclorians and microscopic shit. Don’t believe me? Look it up
Remember that stuff that you and Disney said weren’t canon and were “legends”? You remember those? *THATS YOURE DAMN SOURCE MATERIAL!*
I've been saying that for ages I read a majority of EU source Canon, and campea saying majority of EU stunk.
He is talking through his ass was never a big campea fan but saying that.
Just frustrates and annoys me, put me right off him worse than it was
@@paulwelch3495 Did he even touch the eu?
Generous question?
@@SlimKim3 We know what she was talking about clearly.
Or do you mean there was no agenda for the movies she's been wanting to make.
@@SlimKim3 Doesnt sound like it.
@@SlimKim3 Pretty sure there was an interview and on audio.
I wouldn't give Kathy credit for the Mandalorian, I think Bob has taken over and chose Favreau and let him do his thing.
Soon as John mentioned Favreau I was like “....that’s not Kathleen’s call, that’s daddy Disney at play right there”
Yeah there's no way she hires a white male unless they're good little boys like roundhead
The "Legends" material was written by great writers that gave the SW universe a fleshed out complete world they could have used and drawn from, and that "person" choose to jettison it all. There's a difference between working for the man, and being the man, and Ms Kennedy has shown, she ain't the man.
Let's be honest solo could've been soo more enjoyable if they looked up /out read the trilogy of solo books, and picked a better actor too play solo.
I really njoyed the solo trilogy of EU books
There was an entire series of books about how Han Solo's son turned to the dark side...
Legacy of The Force! hell yeah, Darth Caedus!
I loved those stories. I hated when Jacen killed Anakin.
@@jconnor117
Yeah. I agree with John that 90% of the EU is trash, but this was one of the better series. There was a _lot_ that they could have mined for the new movies.
David Guffey exactly. Darth Caedus. Kylo is clearly a Darth Caedus rip off.
@@jconnor117 Mara?
Everyone: "There are hundreds and hundreds of stories in the Star Wars EU to draw from"
Kathleen Kennedy: "TL;DR"
just one teenie tiny correction sir, EU is this current trilogy. Canon is literally everything else. no true SW fan considers this, Rogue One, Solo (mostly because, there are books who do that story way better) Canon
@@rorybisson756 Oh, I don't consider anything made by Disney canon in Star Wars.
@@SlimKim3 I thought Thomas and I made it pretty clear but it is anyone who actually knows that the "EU" is Canon and Disney isn't. It doesn't mean you can't enjoy what they put out for content just that it's not Canon in any way shape or form. I think that's the nicest way I put it.
Her comments are so astoundingly ignorant that it’s extremely alarming of her disconnect with Star Wars LOL
Huge damn red flag.. out of many already tossed at this point.
They could've literally adapted the Thrawn trilogy and added most of the new characters we were given in 7 and 8 and they would've been better than the abominations we got in those movies.
I was expecting some movies like that....
Bet you regret this comment after ROS release
@@AnthonyDoesCZcams HELL no that movie was a bad apology for TLJ full of glaring plot holes
@@King_Mac80 ikr if only they went with source material they are complete morons
@@AnthonyDoesCZcams explain to me how Emperor Palpatine survived being throw down the shaft of a death star that blew up and crash landed on a planet
Rob takes a deep deep breath so he doesn't go ballistic on Kathleen Kennedy and her idiotic statements...lol.
She had nothing to do with the Mandalorian she's a figure head now, Favrea is going to replace her
But if it were terrible you wouldn't be saying that 😄
But this is probably one of the reasons for her to go. Good or bad she'll be hounded. The stigma has set.
1D4ever she just announced that he will. She said she is going to give the leadership of all future Star Wars projects after TROS to him.
@@josephbanet5410 No she didn't 😄
Luke Thomas yes she did. Look it up.
@@josephbanet5410 Already did. I'm not saying it won't ever happen. But it hasn't happened yet.
"What is a book?" - Kathleen Kennedy, 2019.
JEFFREY ROEDEL “Where is a book?” - Kathleen Kennedy, 2019.
“Why is a book” - Kathleen Kennedy, 2019
What's going on with the Duke Skylighter? - K Kennedy You mean Luke Skywalker? - JJ
Exactly why did Disney let her do that Interview? They already know she is toxic and really should be pinned behind a desk and not giving interviews, she should just be doing the paperwork while someone else does the actual overseeing of the company.
Hahaha! I'm pretty sure I know where the toxicity comes from and it isn't her.
Haha. Didn’t she also ask fans to “let go” of the valuable Intellectual Property that her boss, Bob paid George for? Wasn’t “forget the past” the theme of last film? She accomplished her mission. She wants everyone to “let go of Star Wars”
I am not hater of the franchise. Just questioning management of the franchise
Tyler Worsham very nice. I was be somewhat facetious with my generalization. But from a strategic creative standpoint, it’s plain stupid to regurgitate an expired, out of date story from 1977, failing to garner new audiences and based solely on targeted nostalgia highlights. Then followed by a creative, equally spooked by fan expectations, and 100% aware of the non cinematic world of fan expectations to subvert and deconstruct the cinematic universe that the movie studio is trying to build across all four quadrants of its businesses.
Just because fans think Vader is cool, doesn’t give Abrams license to assume that the Kylo Ren character is immediately relatable as an “orphan” who hero worships his dead war criminal grandfather above his awesome living role models. And to further stretch the believability of the construct of that world, shifting from a 5 planet genocide to an animal cruelty message within a a span of 3 days is preposterously “Pixarish”
Nobody is treating the SW cinematic universe with the creative reference that George Lucas did. He was not wrong when it came to creative that isn’t influenced by fans. Both films are 100% guilty of laziness as attested by the fact that it takes efforts to cultivate new fans. China is an example a a failed opportunity.
While Abram’s creative is excusable because his motives were pure, Johnson’s creative was based on conceit and contempt to fans. He used an innocent Star Wars fan as the punchline on set. The contempt is shown in his work. I didn’t even need to see
And Kennedy herself must not care about the entirety of the franchise as she let Johnson denigrate “laser swords” and ensure that Noel one skilled aspirational saber battle made it into any of her four produced films while the pore theme park executive gets fired after trying to sell $200 light sabers. It’s mind boggling at how precise the industrial sabotage is when it comes to kicking the legs out from under the franchise.
Rob's point is a MAJOR PROBLEM with Hollywood. The way they discount the comics and novels of these franchises would NOT be allowed with any other brand. Could you imagine someone working on Harry Potter who ignores Rowling's novels?
Hi John, I think you give her too much credit on the Mando example. My gut tells me she got lucky with that cos Favreaux handed it to her on a plate. I couldn't trust her to organise a pissup in a brewery when it comes to THIS property!
Again Kathleen lay bare her inadequacies as a executive producer. Which is why filoni needs to take control effective immediately
Umm what. A person with zero experience in Kathleen Kennedy’s job?
Abe 10Alpha Zero experience?
Hero of light Dave Filoni, while he wouldn’t be bad on the story side, doesn’t remotely have the work experience that Kathleen Kennedy has
This is HER achievement, not his!
Correction: Dave Filoni needs to be announced as the Chief Creative Consultant of Lucasfilm Ltd. Nothing more. He's a creative god; he doesn't need to be running all of the other "ins-and-outs" of Lucasfilm Ltd. Part of that duty would go to the new Head of Live Action. Filoni NEEDS to be the overall "creative face" for Lucasfilm, and one of its directors and main producers, just like Jon Favreau needs to continue his creative involvement with Lucasfilm.
Disney threw out the Star Wars EU. She’s technically right, there’s literally nothing they can draw from cause they burned those bridges.
100% right Joey.
Except they draw from it all the time such as in rebels with thrawn
Joey Bulford still could take inspiration from it.
ThiccDuck
Well she didn’t
My man rob had to take a big deep breath on that one
you've got this all wrong John! Clearly she is trying to subvert expectations
Hearing she said this after she jettisoned all of those great books, comic books and games to the farthest corner of the galaxy really makes me sad. Filoni and Taratakovsky should be in charge with Favreau as the top directorial asset.
Those EU novels were unfilmable
Schlock Jocks
Perhaps, if you needed one book to be the template for a film but if one wanted to derive a script from multiple books as inspiration, then they would be priceless. Imagine if they had used material from the Darth plagueis novel as fuel for flashbacks. And that’s just one book. Besides, unless it’s an adaptation from a single series like Interview with a Vampire or Patriot Games, most material comes from multiple sources, while one main source is the strongest genesis of inspiration.
@@JD37 The EU requires the Ot cast to be 35 years younger, Ford to stick around for more than one movie and Fisher to not die within one year.
Not happening.
Schlock Jocks
That’s a bit post hoc but I totally get it and in that strict sense I agree. But I’m referring to the sheer depth and richness of material that could have developed the introduction of multiple new characters, interesting plot points and compelling different story archs. You don’t have to change the main casts ages in order to put them in new, interesting and dynamic situations. Like I said you don’t have to slavishly rely upon just one or two books to derive a story. Above all, I just thought it was disheartening that the person in charge bemoaned the same thing she disposed of.
@@JD37 "But I’m referring to the sheer depth and richness of material that could have developed the introduction of multiple new characters, interesting plot points and compelling different story archs."
Eh...the EU didn't have a lot of that IMO.
It’s funny she says this but I GUARANTEE Rise Of Skywalker has a twist or storyline adapted from the EU!
George Lucas did respect the EU and he drew from it, he got the name of Coruscant from the Thrawn Trilogy, He took elements from Bane, stuff from Mandalorians ect for Clone Wars though he heavily adapted it to his vision, he still drew from it and respected it somewhat. Kennedy, Lucasfilm and Disney don't, they don't even respect the people that have respect for it
Taking a handful of names and ideas from decades of books does not respect make. He didn't care for the EU, he disagreed with it greatly, and there are quotes from him in this century that say as much.
@@user-kt4cg2fn7l disagreeing isn't at all the same as disrespect. I disagree with a lot of stuff in old EU and didn't care for a lot of it and I disagree with a lot of this current Canon but for the most part I still respect it. George outlined some stuff in the inception for EU creators to abide by if they wished but was very lax with it and just let storytellers tell stories. Lucas also considered all the stories created to be all star wars tales, some of them happened whilst some were retold and are less truthful and he pulled from it and respected it's existence, hence my comment
There are times when I feel sorry for Kathleen Kennedy. She really seems overmatched.
Lucas didn’t “hate” the old EU. He just didn’t consider it part of his own Star Wars canon. But he at least always acknowledged its existence (even borrowing stuff he liked, and contributing to it on occasion). In any case He was never THIS bad, just to act as if it didn’t exist.
Yup. Thank you
Not just acknowledged, he approved actual stories. It was part of canon, yet there was "layers" of canon. Actually, he liked the old EU, wrote letters to writers, always bought EU comic books and West End Games stuff.
Darth Bane Trilogy, Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2, Yuuzhan Vong War, Thrawn trilogy just to name the cream of the crop. all the marvel and dark horse comics.
George can piss and moan about hating the EU stuff, but he sure made money off of it. Lucasfilm (which he owned) officially licensed the EU stories and made them canon. Until they decided to make more movies and de-canonised them.
Spielberg: I don’t understand Netflix at the Oscars.
Scorsese: I don’t understand comic book movies.
Kennedy: I don’t understand Star Wars.
Always should’ve been an adaptation of Heir to The Empire possibly mixed with Darth Caedus elements
Also don’t we have a “story group”, thats meant to be brand wide?
She’s clueless
No, it's arrogance.
She just doesn't get it. If Kathleen Kennedy doesn't think there is any source material to draw from then she really is clueless when it comes to Star Wars
Jakeus 25 Ditto! I can’t!
It certainly doesn't make her look any better at a time when she really really needs it. Kathleen Kennedy is not a fan, she's clueless and that's why the franchise is in trouble.
Kathleen Kennedy is out of her depth, and her repeated mistakes prove it.
Kathleen Kennedy just doesn’t get it..... Dark Empire nuff said
Dark Empire is so cringe.
When did she say that? 🤔
George Lucas is still alive
Just ask him for ideas
well, there is the rumor, that he was there helping. Though with the fans attacked him for the prequels, I myself would not want to go back to that pit of ungrateful people.
@@pungisotu no it was not. Nobody desearves to be harrassed like that, because he made some movies, that you yourself just happen to sadly not like. Others did, you did not, just like some like the new trilogy & I think its a STUPID trilogy, but movies are subjective. Movies is not everything. Rather or not its a good movie or not, going to harassment & even attacks & bullying is over the line. & that goes the same, rather if its the fans or the writers & directors(looking at you RJ)
Blip Machine - And the OT. Star Wars IS George Lucas. He just needs people to work with that aren’t all yes-men, which Kennedy likes to surround herself with and we see where that leads: The Prequels and the Sequel Trilogy.
@@blipmachine you know some people like them right? Even more than sequels.
Not to mention he gave us the OT and the Clone Wars TV show. He's not the best director or writer. In fact he didn't want to direct or write the prequels.
Just use him for ideas then get someone to write and direct.
@@blipmachine um yes thanks. He created star wars. What drugs are you on? I'd for sure be asking the creator for ideas.
I think what she meant was the inception. Like a Batman, Wonder Woman, Captain America have had comics , novels, cartoons etc then they decided to make movies. After Star Wars comes out in 1977 it explodes and you realize you can make money off this so then you make your books, comics and more. Starting with a huge direct reference point like decades of media in different mediums before there was ever a movie is indeed giving you a head start. But that doesn’t mean it was easier. Hard is hard.
This is the most facepalm inducing thing I've seen all week.
Their was a trilogy of novels she could have used. The Thrawn Trilogy would have allowed for Disney to have recast the main cast...Sebastian Stan is a dead ringer for Luke Skywalker just as one example. Isn’t funny that every single anthology film was tied directly or slightly indirectly to the original.
Dark Empire...Emperor Palpatine is resurrected as a clone....Now we got The last Jedi and who’s laugh do we hear in the trailer, oh that’s right! Emperor Palpatine!
Didn't GL have a story for the new trilogy?
Yep, it was awful
Josh Hunt can’t be worse than what we got lol
Anthony Nugent it really was... all about midi chlorians and shit! Why pick the worst thing about the prequels and make an entire trilogy about them. No thank you :)
The star wars fanbase is cancer. I would've liked GL sequel compared to what we got now with what Disney made, even though I do like the last jedi, it's not bad as people make it out to be and that was the best one out of the new trilogy. I fucks with the prequels right after the original trilogy, the prequels were way better than the Disney trilogy by a large margin, I'll tell you that now.
@@anthonynugent1615 While flawed I still like sequels much more than prequels. The prequels feel like they were directed by Tommy Wiseau at times. Lucas is a terrible director.
They have actually taken a good bit from the EU in this trilogy, lol
And as he mentioned Thrawn played a big part in Rebels. I'd love to see Mara Jade in some capacity even if it was in an animated show. The EU was a mixed bag, but there certainly was some good stuff in there.
Lucas should of asked do u know anything about my universe outside the three old films I made
Hey Rico, I'm just wondering what's your ethnic background, the reason for asking you this personal question is because I see that you like a video (in one of your favorites) a make-up tutorial of Día de los Muertos (Day of the Dead face painting.
She's really just talking about the small group of filmmakers that shared HER sensibilities. Because anyone that didn't was simply non-existent to her.
The entire sequel trilogy is literally based off of the Dark Horse Dark Empire comic book.
I understand your's and Harloff's explanation of the whole thing... but my head still hurts from the initial blow from her statement... I'll come around. lol!
not having source material doesnt hurt lots of other filmmakers. every movie doesnt come from a book. you are filmmakers. create films. isnt that the job? you think george lucas had comics and novels to draw on when he created it? heres a thought. tell a story that isnt a skywalker story for a change.
John I love you. I have to disagree with Kathleen Even if she meant a specific set of books that were telling “episodes7-9” like kristian said, it’s ridiculous to agree with this statement in any way lol you don’t need a specific set of books. What she said is insulting
I personally took it more as a dig at Kevin Feige.
This is the best episode I have seen you both create to date. It was well versed, well paced and had excellent points. I loved it. Keep up the great work!
Even though there is no book for Episode VII, VIII, and IX, Kennedy couldn't even make the stories within those movies connect and make sense.
The Timothy Zahn trilogy was perfect for adaption to the Cinema. It was rumored that he worked on the original breakdown of the Star Wars timeline that Lucas had at the time of the making of A New Hope.
The Zahn books needed Luke and co to be 35 years younger, Fisher to not die and Ford not wanting out ASAP.
Not happening.
They need to make a Star wars movie between episode 2 and 3 about the clone wars a live action movie with Obi-Wan and Anakin before he became Darth Vader and everyone from the prequels that would be a great movie I think
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Robert hits the nail on the head. The great trouble with the sequel trilogy missed a huge trick by not cherry picking the best parts of the EU (now Legends) and working them into their trilogy. Hardcore fans would have responded way better to the story. The Force Awakens had good set up for the rest of the trilogy but largely rehashed the original plot points of A New Hope. The Last Jedi threw out everything and trashed the character of Luke Skywalker (so many missed opportunities). And the Rise Of Skywalker looks set to be a car crash if the online leaks are accurate...
Kennedy should own what she and Disney did. It's fine to say she has no source material *Since Binning the Legends Material*
I.e. 'Because we threw out decades of graphic novels and larger books we are making brand new stories and filling in 30 years of unclear history'
It’s time to put Someone else in charge.
I love how passionate Rob is in this video
Rob looks SOOOOOO pissed!!!! Lol
Eh, she's not really wrong.
None of the EU is binding at all. They've clearly been forging their own path since day one.
So no, they aren't adapting books or comics.
According to quora there are 381 star wars novels not counting the comics. Granted there are garbage books in there. I'd argue even with the garbage books they are miles above what we have now. From the Darth Bane Trilogy to the Thrawn Trilogy and its sequel books. The Mandorlorians had a great series during the Clone Wars which led to the 501ST. The Han Solo trilogy was way better than the Solo movie. The Courtship of Princess Leia is my guilty pleasure. The X-Wing series was fun and addictive. The Jedi Academy Trilogy gave us the continuation the fans wanted. We had character growth and death. Strong female characters like Mara Jade and Jaina Solo were added. There are between 50-100 good to great books. I doubt John bothered to read all of them. I skipped much of the children's books which were garbage. In the comics you find so much superior work than in the new canon. Dawn of the Jedi gives us an origin for more complex than the medichlorians. Tales of the Jedi and the Knights of the Old Republic build on the lore. Dark Empire, nuff said. Going to the future, we see Luke and Mara get married. We get the Legacy series which gives a darker future with the grandson of Luke and Mara, Cade. It infuriates me that good writing is discarded as non existent even by the host of this great show.
Jedi academy books were not a fave of mine solo trilogy 100% they books themselves would've great movie throw in the how we meet chewie scenario with solo would've been and made more sense than what they did in the movie.
As for the actor for solo epic fail, didn't work for me..
I read somewhere that screenwriters avoid even reading fan fiction in order not to be sued later by their authors. That must relate (perhaps in a different level) with star wars and the expanded universe.
John you're giving her to much credit. First they did have source material when handed a story outlined by George and second she has done an absolute awful job at Lucas Film so it really does not surprise me she said that or thinks it
She knows that they exist. Just doesn't care. Probably stating the obvious here
What is funny is there are many new Star Wars novels and comics that are "disney canon." Literally 75 issues of the new marvel Star Wars line, not to mention several books. Hell Timothy Zahn now has 3 new Thrawn books that are officially canon. There is plenty to work with outside of JJ Abram's head.
The term Mandalorian is not from any of the movies. It’s from the books. And now it’s their flagship show on Disney+. On top of that, Rey and Kylo are just Jaina and Jacen from the books. Her comment is one of the dummest things I’ve ever heard a studio exec say.
Timothy Zahns starwars books were amazing, the man should get more credit.
I guess she has never been in a comic book store🤔🤔🤔🤔
This is blasphemy to someone like me who’s a HUGE Star Wars book fan. There’s a lot of awesome stuff to draw from.
The Thrawn trilogy of books is amazing.
The series that deals with the Yuuzhan Vong war is awesome.
The 9 book series of Jacen becoming a sith (it’s in the first book no major spoiler) it’s called Legacy of the Force is AMAZING.
But yeah it’s great stuff and totally abandons that stupid idea of Jedi can’t marry, Mara Jade was an awesome character in the books.
Ps I know this stuff isn’t canon anymore bc Disney decides to do something not nearly as good but I’m just pointing out there’s a lot of great Star Wars novels out there.
The problem is that the EU was unfilmable
@@ShadowSonic2 that isnt even remotely true. There are plenty of short stories within the EU that could be told in a 2hr film.
@@ShadowSonic2 The same can be said about the Marvel Universe with scores of years of canon. They respect the good, use it, and forget the rest like the MCU. There are great stories to mine. If she was like Kevin Fiege, she would have done that instead of declaring all before is not canon. then replaced it with bland to useless stories.I no longer buy Star Wars Books unless its Zahn or Claudia Grey (not all of her work appeals to me but she can write well).
@@ColmK83 The EU requires the OT cast to be 35 years younger, Ford to stick around for more than one movie and Fisher to not die in one year.
@@dren5810 The EU requires the OT cast to be 35 years younger, Ford to stick around for more than one movie and Fisher to not die within one year.
I do agree with what John Campea said it was all marketing. Just look at how "The Force Awakens" was written by JJ Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan they played it safe and copied "A New Hope". The same can be said for "Rogue One", "Last Jedi", and "Solo". Rather than looking through other source material and trying to do something original they used nostalgia to weave a new story. The merchandise suffered because all the characters looked too similar.
I agree with Kristian's take. I took her comments as pertaining to the new characters they are creating to make their iteration of the Star Wars Universe. They are basically making up their own characters to live in a preexisting universe. For example, Rogue One, VII, VIII, IX, etc. Those characters did not exist prior to Disney taking over Lucas Film. However, what she said was definitely stupid & is deserved of the criticism.
Woah! I just watch “Children of Men” in my film history class! Quietus!!
Is it true there were people walked out angry from a test screening to view the new star wars? If true then I'm confused. As in other news, their still doing reshoots?
Wow! I’ve read about executives that are clueless about what products their companies manufacture or the materials and logistics involved. Is this an indication that KK lives and works in a bubble not aware of all the little details of the Star Wars universe and is handed a printout by aides on what she’s suppose to discuss for particular interviews, meetings or conventions; because it’s looking that way.
The following can be upsetting to some, there are Generals and Admirals who don’t know and can’t match name with pictures of weapon systems and how they function or even the structure of divisions or fleets such as 6 man squad to 12 man to platoon to company and on up or name of ship and what type and purpose.
The great thing about the SW source material is that they're general ideas to apply to new movies. Nobody expects them to translate whole books into movies. So it's way better then Marvel where they have to do justice to whole storylines. Kennedy shows once again that she isn't the right woman for the job.
A lot of people do say dumb things... but most of us aren't CEO of mayor movie studios... (she gets tons of money to run Star Wars, she should know better)
I feel like Feige is behind The Mandalorian more so than Kennedy. It's Dave Filoni and a bunch of people related to Marvel. Plus they created this unique intro similar to the iconic one used by the MCU. And The Mandalorian just feels extremely different from ALL of the other projects
John and Rob are right about this. All I can think is that’s why Feige has crushed so hard. He’s a huge fan with amazing talent for getting the job done. That’s what Star Wars and DC lack
That is NOT what she meant Campea. She is clueless about the SW EU and was saying clearly there are no books, etc, period. Not to mention, Bob Iger's book explains that George Lucas had treatments for the new trilogy that they threw out after insinuating they would use them. Robert Meyer knows what's up. I agree 100% with what he said.
I would argue that more than 10% is good. At least 40% is good at least
Worst leadership in Hollywood. She needs to go. She betrayed the legacy of George Lucas. Thanks to her we have The Last Jedi and Solo a movie no one asked for.
I don’t think Kennedy “paired Favreau up with Filoni”... Jon and Dave knew each other personally well for years before any sort of project. They had hoped they could work together one day, and they did now..
YOU DON'T EVEN NEED SOURCE MATERIAL!
One name Timothy Zahn. One trilogy Heir to the Empire.
Unfilmable
EU>Peeeww that currently exists. The reason Disney dismissed the EU is once again licensing $$. They want to wholly own their stuff.
Best thing to help heal the wounds would be a big announcement that EU is back on the table. They could make a killing turning some of the many EU novels into film. Just do it.
I agree it’s harder to adapt over original screenplays. That’s why the marvel movies work. They took characters that weren’t high profile and were able to do what they wanted with them. Like captain America, iron man, Thor and other second tier characters that weren’t Batman, Superman and Spider-Man. They didn’t have any expectations so they could do what they wanted while still making sure they were in the vein of the comics. Yeah they eventually brought in Spider-Man but well after they were already established. They did use the lore but weren’t married to it. When you have top tier iconic characters like Batman, Superman, Luke skywalker, Han Solo... they are in the culture deeply engrained. If you don’t do them justice in the eyes of the fans... it forever taints the property. That’s the problem.
What a load of Grade A BS. There's tons to draw from. Hell, you could even cannonize the Dark Forces videogame series.
Even if Kathleen Kennedy didn't use the extended universe stuff, George Lucas's script ideas, source material, etc doesn't she have her own ideas from scratch where she wanted to take the series? Is she even a storyteller? She does know that she doesn't have to be inspired just from Star Wars to figure out where to take the story. Good or bad. This feels like she just wanted to be producer only.
Hey, what about the Star Wars Legends novels, comic books, and mythology info we had before the Disney sale in 2012.
In an attempt to diminish the financial and critical success of the MCU Kathleen Kennedy ends up shooting herself right in the face.
The problem isn't that starwars doesn't have material to reference & draw upon the problem is that they hired a person who has no clue that it exist.
Which brings us to the question of how a person who lacks such little passion for the Starwars story ever got to this position in the 1st place.
You don’t have to adapt a whole story she can take small parts from several, for example she can just take thrawn and make him a great villain for a new trilogy.
She is talking about episode 9 it's a new story u can't borrow from somewhere like for infinity war u have infinity war comics .
The other thing you've got to consider about point 2 is the fact that adapting screenplays means that you're dealing with a preexisting fanbase. The fact that you're adapting it means it most likely you have a large and passionate group of people waiting to see it. An adapted screenplay can disappoint preexisting fanbases. Original screenplays won't have that problem.
I can't believe you're trying to give her credit for the Mandalorian lol
I'm more leaning towards what Harloff was saying. Maybe they were making these new trilogy films as "original" as possible. Not really wanting to base it on any novels or comic books. And that is hard. I don't believe Kennedy is that clueless. Maybe she should have phrased her words better.
We need a Retcon with Dave Filoni as Director for a Proper Sequel Trilogy with Luke Treated with Respect, & uses Elements of Lucas's Script & the EU for inspiration.
Did she not know that Star Wars was inspired by Joseph Campbell’s novels Power Of Myth, Hero With A Thousand Faces and the Hero’s Journey? Also they have the OT to look at for inspiration and the EU. So clearly Kennedy is out of her damn mind.
George had an outline for VII to IX which he handed to DISNEY.
There was also some abandoned material that was scrapped at the early stages of production of ROTJ-an outline which revealed a 'lost' SKYWALKER and a FINAL confrontation with the EMPEROR (sounds familiar )
It is simply not true that they did bot have source material to draw upon.
i think most people are more upset they didnt do what the old books and comics did set up for a sequel, at least in comparison to what we got with ep 7 and 8
Y'know even if there was no source material, you could like...make something original? Like didn't Force Awakens draw from New Hope? And that's not source material??
Rian Johnson ignored the novelization of TFA, and, for one example, had Poe and Rey meet (again) in TLJ, and not at the Resistance base before Rey leaves to get Luke, as in TFA novel. That's within their own trilogy material. Are we surprised this is happening now? They got an outline from Lucas for the entire trilogy, and threw it out. They got an outline from J.J. for the rest of the trilogy, but RJ threw it out. Can we ret con the last 4-5 years and start over? This is ridiculous.
Yeah, I always thought it was crazy when Kristian or someone would bring up Plagueis coming back or even Thrawn. I doubt Kathleen and Abrams and Rian Johnson even know who those characters are.
KENNEDY is not actually responsible for THE MANDALORIAN. Jon has a close relationship with Bob Iger due to his work in kickstarting the MCU - JON took 4 finished scripts to Bob Iger, and said 'I want to do this show'. Kennedy is only involved pretty much by default as head of Lucasfilm. Jon is NOT beholden to her at all.
The decision to make every comic, book, and video game before the Disney acquisition "legend" is the worst decision in the Kennedy era at Lucasfilm. They should have done what Marvel did: simply make the J.J. and Johnson movies set in it's own "Disney-verse". Then they could take inspiration from any of the post-RotJ stories but also do their own thing WITHOUT trashing the rich and beloved history of the Star Wars universe.