Daisy Ridley Confirms They Had No Idea What To Do With Rey

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  • @sohaibsanaan4139
    @sohaibsanaan4139 Před 3 lety +426

    Imagine making the most anticipated trilogy of the biggest movie franchise ever without having a plan.

    • @AdamPercival
      @AdamPercival Před 3 lety +18

      Scandalous ain’t it 😂 4 billion pounds spent and no plan

    • @franciscomatallana8676
      @franciscomatallana8676 Před 3 lety +17

      The balls right?!

    • @brucewaynenotbatman
      @brucewaynenotbatman Před 3 lety +4

      They needed to recoup the 4billion they spent as soon as possible.

    • @maniacmadness115
      @maniacmadness115 Před 3 lety +12

      Sure Disney had a plan buy star wars from George Lucas, exploit the intellectual property, MONEY MONEY MONEY that's how far the thinking went lol

    • @ghost245353
      @ghost245353 Před 3 lety +5

      We don't have to imagine because it happened :/

  • @cbarton7589
    @cbarton7589 Před 3 lety +122

    Sequel trilogy was just Disney trying to make a quick buck with no plan.

    • @ra6865
      @ra6865 Před 3 lety +1

      they are ads for selling toys?

  • @christianbrown7438
    @christianbrown7438 Před 3 lety +109

    Rob is spot on here, Disney made the arrogant decision to not have a plan because they assumed any film called Star Wars would be a guarenteed win.

    • @stvnsvids
      @stvnsvids Před 3 lety +4

      but they were, all three wins, unfortunately, NOT on artistic terms, only in financial ones, which is what the execs give a shit about :(

    • @Val_Halla777
      @Val_Halla777 Před 3 lety +3

      Statistically there’s a high percentage of CEOs and similar roles that test as clinically “sociopathic”. This would explain perfectly their disregard and disrespect for the franchise and SW legacy fans..and only caring about profits.
      There’s a high chance this sequel trilogy was actually helmed by ‘psychos’’.

    • @christianbrown7438
      @christianbrown7438 Před 3 lety +4

      @@stvnsvids True, they still made 1 billion at least on all three films, but each one was less as the last one, with Solo costing them a lot more, perhaps unfairly as that was actually a decent film.

    • @raf686
      @raf686 Před 3 lety

      Henry Arriaga ehhh would not say the profit was great for the last 2 especially the last one.

    • @vashythewabbit8288
      @vashythewabbit8288 Před 3 lety

      He is half right. However Disney did not do the terrible choices here. It was the Lucasfilm higher ups.

  • @ArnoldJamesXT
    @ArnoldJamesXT Před 3 lety +153

    Remember the Captain Phasma and Snoke hype? What a let down!

    • @eyeheartsushi2212
      @eyeheartsushi2212 Před 3 lety

      IKR

    • @MaverickAC130
      @MaverickAC130 Před 3 lety +8

      Argh don't remind me another waste of characters. At this point it seems intentional

    • @eyeheartsushi2212
      @eyeheartsushi2212 Před 3 lety

      krisj827 Right. I wanted to find out more about Snoke. Thought there’d be some backstory about him but no.

    • @The_Fat_Fury
      @The_Fat_Fury Před 3 lety +3

      I was so hyped for Phasma. I thought she was gonna end up being a bad ass character and she turned out to be a joke. Ugh. Snoke was also kinda badass in TFA and was basically turned into a joke with TLJ.

    • @Justifyingrandomness22
      @Justifyingrandomness22 Před 3 lety +2

      Classical J.J Abrams like all his movie trailers promoting false material.

  • @Spore6001
    @Spore6001 Před 3 lety +211

    Say what you want about the prequels in terms of writing, acting and the overuse of CGI, but at least the vision was consistent.

    • @RDramatica
      @RDramatica Před 3 lety +8

      Spore6001 Here! Here! AMEN!

    • @jrad410
      @jrad410 Před 3 lety +6

      Absolutely

    • @joehenry9546
      @joehenry9546 Před 3 lety +6

      Exactly!

    • @3DSte1985
      @3DSte1985 Před 3 lety +4

      GL should of done what he did with the OT and get a proper director and a strong producer, instead he directed (which he was poor at) and his producer were just yes men rather than challenge him.
      GL is BRILLIANT at coming up with a quality story, but he just isn't great at transfering that from paper to screen.

    • @soul4saken
      @soul4saken Před 3 lety +4

      I think everyone is looking at the prequels with a fresh set of eyes

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 Před 3 lety +319

    I feel so bad for Daisy Ridley. She tried her best, but she was little to work with.

    • @isacctavares1368
      @isacctavares1368 Před 3 lety +14

      Shes a good actress, she is very good when you let emote, when you let her act. Disney, Lucasfilm juat gave her resting sad face and a terrible story. Did she ever smile in those movies. I dont blame the actors, I blame the people who told her to act. I wish her the best of luck. I hope she gets the funk of these movies off of her.

    • @clockstomper
      @clockstomper Před 3 lety +6

      @@isacctavares1368 They do that a lot with female characters, like they think emotions make them weak or something. Or they think it's easier not to offend if everyone is stoic. It's weird, Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor's best moments are the emotional ones.

    • @isacctavares1368
      @isacctavares1368 Před 3 lety +3

      @@clockstomper Great point. Sarah losing control in T2 when she was going to kill dyson is prime example of her emotion, and we remember her. She is not afraid of emotion. Your right. Female characters have devolved from bad ass icons to boring, stoic. Thank god they let Wonder Woman smile in her own movie.

    • @Benjamin_Gilbert-Lif
      @Benjamin_Gilbert-Lif Před 3 lety +1

      I feel Bad for them cuz they work so well togeather and they’ll never do it again

    • @MrDanielcool
      @MrDanielcool Před 3 lety +3

      @@scorpionx7044 heck i also feel bad for Mark hammial you think they had it bad he watched his legacy get destored

  • @JHOLE21
    @JHOLE21 Před 3 lety +44

    Boyega was upset abut them promising a good character and the throwing it in the trash

    • @totterdell
      @totterdell Před 3 lety

      John mentioned Anakin is a way better Jedi than Rey and yes he is

  • @clockstomper
    @clockstomper Před 3 lety +55

    Lord of the Rings is the perfect model, make all 3 together under one unified team.

    • @keegantheplayer
      @keegantheplayer Před 3 lety +7

      Same with MCU’s Captain America trilogy.

    • @theavatar9191
      @theavatar9191 Před 3 lety

      Even Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy had more vision besides studio interference by the end.

    • @jrad410
      @jrad410 Před 3 lety

      @@keegantheplayer not the same. There were different teams and then Disney acquired them and the story of the trilogy was woven into the avengers films

    • @dylanseah7161
      @dylanseah7161 Před 2 lety +1

      It’s much easier for lord of the rings. They have an entire three books to just adapt.

    • @parthsarthimuranjan9069
      @parthsarthimuranjan9069 Před 2 lety

      @@mazengwe28 not matrix and Nolan said he did not want to make a sequel

  • @darthkso3745
    @darthkso3745 Před 3 lety +244

    This deal is getting worse all the time.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před 3 lety +24

      I am altering the deal. Pray, I don't alter it any further.

    • @hellotheir1427
      @hellotheir1427 Před 3 lety +9

      On top of that, the gaming rights are with a shitty ass "english words cant express my frustration and disbelief" gaming company that doesnt give a fuck about stories and has made only TWO star wars games in 5 years!!! Why did lucas sell the franchise?

    • @imbatman2319
      @imbatman2319 Před 3 lety +2

      @@hellotheir1427 you know why ಠ_ʖಠ

    • @reveredkiwi6164
      @reveredkiwi6164 Před 3 lety

      Oh it's definitely getting altered further

    • @Dragonage2ftw
      @Dragonage2ftw Před 3 lety

      Unfunny.

  • @clash5j
    @clash5j Před 3 lety +36

    Feel so bad for many of the actors, but particularly Daisy. I still remember the video of her watching the trailer for the first time and crying tears of joy

  • @nippondering
    @nippondering Před 3 lety +49

    My soul screamed, "yaaaas!!!" When RMB said, asked why JJ gets the keys to that kingdom. WTF! He isn't Spielberg!

    • @nikunjdixit1175
      @nikunjdixit1175 Před 3 lety +2

      Well, to be fair, JJ had a stellar track record prior to Star Wars and he wasn't exactly given the keys to the kingdom. He was given the key to restart the kingdom and was brought back to finish it off after insane mismanagement by KK and Lucasfilm.

    • @marlock6573
      @marlock6573 Před 3 lety +2

      @@nikunjdixit1175 JJ can't tell a complete story over a series to save his life. This was demonstrated first with Lost, and we saw how the Star Trek movies got progressively worse. That said. The blame for the lack of planning of the ST story falls squarely on Kathleen Kennedy.

    • @nikunjdixit1175
      @nikunjdixit1175 Před 3 lety +1

      @@marlock6573 I think you mean SW, not ST. Honestly, I find it hard to put too much blame on JJ regarding SW. TROS screams of reactionary studio driven film making. So I blame KK for not figuring out a basic structure for a trilogy which seems like a pretty basic requirement. I love his ST movies so I have no issue with JJ in that scenario.

    • @marlock6573
      @marlock6573 Před 3 lety

      @@nikunjdixit1175 No, I mean Star Trek. Into Darkness and Beyond are bad movies that barely broke even, and JJ can't get financing to continue the Kelvin timeline series, so it's dead.

    • @nikunjdixit1175
      @nikunjdixit1175 Před 3 lety

      Marlo Ck Well, I disagree. I think all three Kelvin movies are great. Not to mention, Beyond is not a JJ movie. And Beyond is actually the only one which struggled financially.

  • @aguilacahc000
    @aguilacahc000 Před 3 lety +40

    Absolutely agree with Robert. Completely asinine from Disney and Kennedy

  • @joew694
    @joew694 Před 3 lety +46

    They were X-Wing'ing it......

  • @harrisd1983
    @harrisd1983 Před 3 lety +82

    I can't wait for the documentary and or book about the making of the sequel trilogy.
    The making of has to be a fascinating story of incompetence.

    • @eyeheartsushi2212
      @eyeheartsushi2212 Před 3 lety +10

      I hope Mark Hamill puts out a tell all book someday.

    • @anthonyyoutubefan7567
      @anthonyyoutubefan7567 Před 3 lety

      Book? Documentary? Doug, there will be MULTIPLE VOLUMES and DOCUMENTARIES about this galaxy-sized mess. Tell-Alls galore!

    • @ThatBlakeCampbell
      @ThatBlakeCampbell Před 3 lety +1

      The Disaster ArtistS

  • @Planet-Rodela-3
    @Planet-Rodela-3 Před 3 lety +18

    The Prequels started off poorly, and ended on a high-note.
    The Sequels started off on a high-note, and ended poorly.

  • @ghost245353
    @ghost245353 Před 3 lety +12

    As stated by the great Hawkeye in Endgame: "Hold on. Don't shoot. Do you see where you're going? Ok. Now let's see how we get there."

  • @entertainmentwizard2703
    @entertainmentwizard2703 Před 3 lety +103

    This trilogy was a disaster!

    • @Robin-be1zm
      @Robin-be1zm Před 3 lety +1

      What a good comment -_-

    • @iannisakrivos53
      @iannisakrivos53 Před 3 lety +1

      When you realise that the only good one is the remake of ANH (that won't admit it's a remake of ANH)...
      Well yes, it's undeniable.

    • @Robin-be1zm
      @Robin-be1zm Před 3 lety +2

      @@cybertron4618 i wasn't saying it wasn't true, but OP could've put some effort in telling us why he thinks the sequel trilogy was a disaster!

    • @HyraxusPrimus
      @HyraxusPrimus Před 3 lety +3

      @@iannisakrivos53 Anyone who doesn't think it's a remake at this point is lying to themselves, and no, it wasn't good. Not any better than the remake of Return of the Jedi (Rise of Skywalker).

    • @medalgear654
      @medalgear654 Před 3 lety

      @@iannisakrivos53 what no that movie was horrible too...like so many plot holes after plot holes after plot holes.
      Decent of the three, yes but not good.

  • @danceallnite45
    @danceallnite45 Před 3 lety +15

    Here's a crazy idea. Since it was the Skywalker Saga, how about intoducing the kids of the solos and skywalkers and have their adventures.

    • @katiehelms8903
      @katiehelms8903 Před 3 lety

      Yeah I wanted Rey to be Leia and Han's daughter

  • @jaredguffey1185
    @jaredguffey1185 Před 3 lety +19

    Rob is 100% correct.

  • @thebkg
    @thebkg Před 3 lety +57

    I've been saying this since the Last Jedi.
    It was Kathleen Kennedy's job to choose who was in charge of the Star Wars Story. Her decision? Just put it in the hands of THREE Different Directors!! (Original plan). Directors who had no relationship with SW in any way.
    Kathleen Kennedy is an amazing Producer. However, producer is a very wide category. There's a reason there are always multiple producers. Some producers handle the overall artistic and story decisions, while others handle the logistics, coordination, financing, and budget controls. Kennedy has always been the LATER. She's amazing at logistics, etc. But the artistic side was always Spielberg or Lucas. That was never in her wheelhouse. I'd love to go on but don't have time atm.

    • @lazedout8755
      @lazedout8755 Před 3 lety +2

      Richie 1138 yeah but Lucas was the big producer. Most of them had the same writer too I believe

    • @RDramatica
      @RDramatica Před 3 lety

      thebkg YUP! Agreed!

    • @thebkg
      @thebkg Před 3 lety +2

      She should have put Dave Filoni or Favreau in charge of writing a general story for the final Skywalker story and make them an Executive Producer. Filoni has been on record saying he didn't want to Direct a Live Action movie, he didn't feel he had the experience to take that on. And that's fine, he didn't have to direct them. He just needed to be in charge of the Story.
      I think part of the problem is the vast majority of Kennedy's experience was working with both George Lucas and predominantly Stephen Spielberg. She might not have truly understood that other Directors weren't anywhere near to those standards. I think she expected far better from them and trusted them way more than she ever should have. But her only experience was working with the Best, she didn't comprehend what less than was like.
      I still believe she should be fired for failing to produce a better product. The movies still made huge money, but that's only because it's Freaking Star Wars!! Millions of people will go see it even if it gets Horrible Reviews. SW doesn't follow market norms at all. But at the same time the person in charge of the final product should therefore be held to a far higher standard. That Trilogy, as a whole, did not live up to the standards of Star Wars.

    • @marsoelflaco5722
      @marsoelflaco5722 Před 3 lety +1

      She is a very good secretary,...a glorified secretary!
      👍✌

  • @NickEBN79
    @NickEBN79 Před 3 lety +10

    Rob is 100% on point.

  • @DiedrichKnickerbocker1783
    @DiedrichKnickerbocker1783 Před 3 lety +114

    Kathleen Kennedy needs to leave Lucas Films. An I mean now.

    • @kadylady9364
      @kadylady9364 Před 3 lety +2

      and everything else that she brought us? Mandalorian, Rebels, Resistance , etc. yeah, this hate train on Kathleen Kennedy is nothing but that.. an online hate train. that doesn't translate to real life.

    • @amazingfantasy6315
      @amazingfantasy6315 Před 3 lety +7

      If I had the means I would gladly oversee her being encased in Frozen Carbonite. In fact I’d enjoy that a lot 🧐

    • @JrobAlmighty
      @JrobAlmighty Před 3 lety +1

      She's not the antichrist but she absolutely dgaf about a solid narrative that fits with the themes of the universe.
      She cares about her being seen as this transformation executive. She's the one that has held up every interesting idea besides The Mandalorian and st that point they had already brought in Fav's.
      She needs to go. The worst things she's done are just straight up lying to us about everything including what this video is about.

    • @darthtrajk666
      @darthtrajk666 Před 3 lety

      @@amazingfantasy6315 lmao!

    • @kadylady9364
      @kadylady9364 Před 3 lety

      @@shootingreal5945 BECAUSE IT IS TOO MUCH HATE and OPINIONS that are all over the place, and these main suppose arguments and opinions you people are screaming about ? didn't come across so well three to five years ago. SO YEAH thats why. Because online internet hate train, again , does not translate to real life.

  • @mebaw01
    @mebaw01 Před 3 lety +5

    Rob is such a mood in this video.

  • @joeyarlene7077
    @joeyarlene7077 Před 3 lety +1

    Love both of you guys. Thank you BOTH for being awesome 🤘🏼

  • @stevennicks8290
    @stevennicks8290 Před 3 lety +19

    I'm still baffled how they got the Star Wars rights, one of the biggest franchises of all time, and just didn't plan any of it out 😅

    • @thebkg
      @thebkg Před 3 lety +7

      That wasn't "Disney's" fault. Kathleen Kennedy didn't come from Disney, she came from Lucasfilms. She already worked for Lucas and Spielberg. This is Kennedy's fault.

    • @iceman00behave
      @iceman00behave Před 3 lety +1

      @@thebkg Bog Iger in his book, talked about how they brought on George Lucas as a consultant, and purchased his story ideas, but said that in the actual contract there was no obligation to actually use them. You kind of get the feeling that they were always going to go their own way, and only brought on Lucas for positive PR. Which is highly ironic, because it sounds like they initially only focused on the first film, and specifically wanting to appeal to OT fans, instead of mapping out a 3 part story. So it's not like Disney has no blame in this.

  • @nabetse1999
    @nabetse1999 Před 3 lety +51

    John was so condescending talking about "JJ always intended Rey to be a nobody" now he says he was saying the opposite all along. C'mon

    • @JC-wv2mn
      @JC-wv2mn Před 3 lety +6

      Don't blame John. Blame Disney

    • @TimLSim
      @TimLSim Před 3 lety +3

      nosferatu the success with The Mandalorian is a start...

    • @basherexx1536
      @basherexx1536 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TimLSim and Kathy the 'force is female' was told to keep a hands off approch to Mandalorian too, hmmm I see a link there 😏

    • @dukinhower
      @dukinhower Před 3 lety

      Too many people told John Campea that JJ was fickle as fuck

    • @Darkjedi
      @Darkjedi Před 3 lety

      That flip flop life

  • @glasspretender
    @glasspretender Před 3 lety +24

    Should’ve just left her as a nobody

    • @Phantom8941
      @Phantom8941 Před 3 lety

      Had they not made her so overpowered maybe they could have, but by making her so abnormally gifted necessitated some really special goddamn reasoning to have her make any sense. Personally working with what we got even though its not my preferred avenue would have had Rey be a reincarnated Anakin whose force ghost would have been nearly destroyed at some point in the past by a Palpatine possessed Luke (who he'd have surreptitiously hitched a ride in ROTJ), explaining her having piloting skills despite being a desert scavenger who'd never flown a ship before, let alone a modded one like the falcon; her skill with a saber despite only being a self-trained novice with a metal staff; and the ability to use advanced force techniques with little to none of the required training by positioning them as weak half remembered instinctual links to a forgotten past life of which fully reconnecting to and remembering would be her primary mission throughout the ST.
      Using this you could also explain why Luke would abandon the galaxy and sequester himself on that planet (without destroying his character) as him going into a self imposed exile at a powerful Light side location to find a way to dig the tick that is Palpatine out of his body while quarantining himself so he can't hop onto anyone else and escape. The incident inciteing this would be Palpatine surprising Luke around 10 years after ROTJ by revealing his presence within him by taking control abd showing off his new destructive force ghost destroying technique he'd developed whilst feeding on Luke's power and knowledge over the years, after which he'd go on a rampage using Luke's body to destroy Luke's temple and murder Luke's students (setting up Kylo's motivation), which sees Luke eventually reassert control far too late to stop the carnage.
      Hell, you could still have implemented this even as a last minute fix in place of the Rise of Skywalker we got by simply having TROS start right at the end of TLJ and fade away to reveal it all to be a force vision Luke gave to Rey after she'd asked for his help to teste her purity of heart, then you could reveal all the things I detailed, above recontextualizing elements of TFA and TLJ so that they actually make sense with this alternate TROS culminating in a mind battle on the astral plane where Rey, Anakin, Luke and Kylo fight to defeat/help Palpatine (Rey and Anakin vs Palpatine and Luke facing off against Kylo pulling him back from the dark side) ending with either the Anakin side of breaking off from Rey sacrificing himself to finally pull Palpatine to the other side dispelling both of their conciousnesses' for good taking away Rey's chosen one power boost leaving her at average Jedi power levels in need of real training or she goes with Anakin and permadies with him (I prefer the death route as its less of a fairy tale ending but the power of money says Disney would have her live) leaving Finn to with or without Rey become Luke's new student.

    • @lordvader602
      @lordvader602 Před 3 lety +2

      tldr?

    • @glasspretender
      @glasspretender Před 3 lety +1

      Martin Sevcech nice reasoning. That would have been something interesting to see. But at the same time there are trillions of people in the Star Wars galaxy, so I don’t see why all powerful force users need to be allocated to Skywalker/Kenobi/Palpatine families. I like the idea that anyone has the potential to become a powerful force user.

    • @Phantom8941
      @Phantom8941 Před 3 lety

      @@glasspretender 1. Kenobi was not all-powerful, he was in fact just an average power jedi who trained his ass off to attain an extremely efficient technique that made the most of his relatively meager power level. Consider this, it took him 30+ years of nonstop hardcore training just to match the force push of an Anakin that prioritized martial prowess over force power and probably coasted by on poor technique with overwhelming raw power who'd only been training for 13 years, notice that as Vader in A New Hope after Anakin was forced to get serious due to his physical limitations and Anakin actually applied himself to the spiritual side of the force Obi-wan stood no chance whatsoever.
      2. Of the innumerable people in the Star Wars universe (far more than trillions) the vast majority are so weak they couldn't do jack shit with their force potential even with training, so some rando managing to match and far surpass anomalies like Anakin, Yoda and Palpatine with zero training no less is patently ridiculous.

  • @kjhuang
    @kjhuang Před 3 lety +8

    J.J. Abrams has to be the most overrated director alive today. I can't think of a single movie he directed that I really like. M:I III was okay. That's about it.

  • @joshuaromerogonzalez945
    @joshuaromerogonzalez945 Před 3 lety +6

    This ultimately proved that even Abrams, had no idea as to where his mystery boxes were going to go

    • @marsoelflaco5722
      @marsoelflaco5722 Před 3 lety

      Someone should bury Abrams in a mystery box! 👍✌

    • @MrJerks93
      @MrJerks93 Před 3 lety +1

      Abrahms never knows what's in his mystery boxes. That can work for story elements (e.g., the rabbit's foot), but it was a poor choice for Star Wars at this point in its development wd.

    • @drob3820
      @drob3820 Před 3 lety

      So typical JJ then

  • @MiKroXL
    @MiKroXL Před 3 lety +2

    Shows that prequels as much as people hate them at least had a vision
    And I prefer them especially episode 3

  • @SuperJumper40
    @SuperJumper40 Před 3 lety +5

    When did JJ Abrams say that he taken the idea of the nobody in TFA (which according to John he allegedly said several times)? Does anyone know an interview about it?

  • @angelgonzalez14
    @angelgonzalez14 Před 3 lety +7

    Why would you blame JJ for a decision that the company made?

  • @michaeljeacock
    @michaeljeacock Před 3 lety +3

    Feige: I have the next 20 years planed out.
    Kennedy: mE maKe uP AS me gO!!!

  • @raptorclaw163
    @raptorclaw163 Před 3 lety +5

    Solo/Rogue One: We were the most chaotic Star Wars movies to get made
    Rise Of Skywalker: Hold my beer

    • @luxeternity
      @luxeternity Před 3 lety

      Solo was meh but if anybody find it enjoyable that's them ..rogue one I think almost on par with the six films

  • @ArtSawce
    @ArtSawce Před 3 lety +7

    John didnt you used to say JJ and Rian and Kathleen had everything planned out...and defended TLJ. Why did JJ then reverse all of that?

    • @qmulus1
      @qmulus1 Před 3 lety +2

      He got tired of shilling for Lucasfilm.

    • @JoelJoel321
      @JoelJoel321 Před 2 lety

      Because of the whiny fanboys who didn't like TLJ because it wasn't just full of membaberries.

  • @qwho4214
    @qwho4214 Před 3 lety +4

    Rob laying down the law!

  • @dudemanbroguy3464
    @dudemanbroguy3464 Před 3 lety +2

    TFA: an alright movie with a setup for a bigger adventure
    TLJ: probably the shittiest blockbuster movie I’ve ever had the unpleasure to sit through
    And the last movie I didn’t even bother watching

  • @Partylikeits-br7bb
    @Partylikeits-br7bb Před 3 lety +4

    How....how can you get one of the all time biggest franchises and not plan the plot? Like, what could be the reason for them just winging it? Anyone want to play devil's advocate? Only reason I assume is that they knew people would just go see the movie anyway so the effort wasn't there.

    • @lusciousluie
      @lusciousluie Před 3 lety

      @@tom6369 and even still TROS plot leaked

  • @lidyareacts6598
    @lidyareacts6598 Před 3 lety +7

    Blame JJ and RJ all you want. At the end of the day its KK's fault. She's no Kevin Feige.

  • @ziggysinger2987
    @ziggysinger2987 Před 3 lety +4

    So many GOLD quotes from both of them, “40 years of lore and ROS is what they could come up with”
    “lucasfilm is run the way we thought DC was being run”

  • @alexman378
    @alexman378 Před 3 lety +3

    John, man, I love your show and all, but that blind admiration for Kennedy is unwarranted, both as a professional and as a person. If someone gives you a franchise where you’re guaranteed a massive fan base and end up making less profit by each movie, that’s incompetence to the highest degree. Sure, they made a billion per movie, but when your third movie, the climax of your trilogy, makes half what the first movie made, that speaks volumes to the incompetence of the overseer.

  • @bicknell67
    @bicknell67 Před 3 lety +3

    I keep saying it going into The Force Awakens there was possibly more or less a plan by by The Last Jedi the director Rian Johnson messed all that up. I believe there was no intention to bring back Palpatine or have Rey have any relation to him. So JJ basically grabbed stuff out of the bag to put something together in the short time of release.

    • @cryptking6283
      @cryptking6283 Před 3 lety +1

      Yep. You could tell when RJ just threw everything out.

    • @bicknell67
      @bicknell67 Před 3 lety

      @@cryptking6283 Yes I mean he could have went with what he had at his feet but instead he just went with his own ideas.

  • @Menudofan1985
    @Menudofan1985 Před 3 lety

    Rob is always like can I speak now please

  • @joefawley9264
    @joefawley9264 Před 3 lety +2

    I don't understand how rebooting yoda with a more powerful baby version is approved by the fandom. Uncreative at it's finest.

  • @michaelabayomi
    @michaelabayomi Před 3 lety +24

    It's a shame the way the new trilogy was handled, without any kind of a plan. That said, I did like all three films to varying degrees. At least they'd managed to deliver some thrills over the course of an overall messy journey.

    • @jrad410
      @jrad410 Před 3 lety +2

      Hell the transformers managed that, not a high bar to clear

    • @michaelabayomi
      @michaelabayomi Před 3 lety

      @@jrad410 Lol. Well at least none of the movies here were quite as bad or baffling as Transformers 2. That movie was a cringefest. 😅

  • @patriciablopez
    @patriciablopez Před 3 lety

    RMB is talking the truth!!! Thank you!!!!

  • @Review-kids
    @Review-kids Před 3 lety

    Rob, that shirt is soooo on point!!!❤️

  • @gary24fan
    @gary24fan Před 3 lety +1

    Everyone is saying how bad they feel for Daisy Ridley, which I'm sure they do, but this is the same thing we heard 20 years ago. "I feel so bad for Jake Lloyd/Hayden Christensen/Natalie Portman." Now those same people are talking about how much they LOVE the prequels in yet another revisionist history moment. John, I hope you do not think that the MCU had a plan, because that comparison often gets made here. They did not either. Just watch the director's roundtable. Can't remember if it's on the Infinity War or Endgame extras disc.

  • @azloth
    @azloth Před 3 lety +2

    Heartbreaking... just heartbreaking smh

  • @xaro9873
    @xaro9873 Před 3 lety +2

    Uhmm.. how was it not apparent there was no plan in TLJ? How could RoS have a plot after that?

  • @thebkg
    @thebkg Před 3 lety +4

    Oh... And I've been saying JJ Abrams is over rated for YEARS. I watched Alias from Pilot to last Episode, then I watched the first 2 years of Lost. Season 3 lost me. After those I started to say the JJ comes up with great ideas, but he doesn't know how to Finish them. Alias started to descend into a weird almost supernatural plot line in the 2nd season, which ultimately killed the show. The viewership left because it was becoming less and less the international spy show it started as. Lost did something similar. It started as one thing then kept going further and further from its core concept.
    So I was furious when JJ was handed Star Trek to reboot. Then he got chosen to do SW. JJ has had the world fooled because people don't pay attention to patterns. Hopefully now they'll be more careful about handing him a project with zero screen play or script and letting him have complete creative control. 😒

  • @anthonygaul2146
    @anthonygaul2146 Před 3 lety +1

    Its called kicking ass and take questions later. I cant believe how many people find it hard to take a direction in life without worrying about the consequences.

  • @ki-seonpeck9069
    @ki-seonpeck9069 Před 3 lety +18

    I find it impressive that Daisy Ridley was still able to give a fantastic performance despite not knowing her character's background

  • @EmersonFlemingEmRock13
    @EmersonFlemingEmRock13 Před 3 lety +9

    They should have just stuck with the “parents are nobody” plot line. Even people who didn’t like TLJ seemed happier with that than what they did with the whole Palpatine storyline.

  • @keikomagazinetv9033
    @keikomagazinetv9033 Před 3 lety +5

    I only saw The Force Awakens and it was good... but it wasn’t enough to make me want to see more 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @MrVavo007
      @MrVavo007 Před 3 lety +1

      Good don’t see more. That’s the only good one from the sequels. Watching the rest will only make you not like TFA anymore lol

  • @NRFBB
    @NRFBB Před 3 lety +1

    Preach Rob, preach!

  • @NUFC_Adam
    @NUFC_Adam Před 3 lety +12

    I’m a big fan of TFA and TLJ but they really should have planned out the three movies in advance.

    • @IsaacV24
      @IsaacV24 Před 3 lety +1

      TROS was actually what made me not like TFA as much.

    • @NUFC_Adam
      @NUFC_Adam Před 3 lety

      R S Thanks lol

    • @NUFC_Adam
      @NUFC_Adam Před 3 lety

      Indiana Solo I can get some enjoyment from TROS but there’s no denying it’s a mess of a film.

    • @joshhunt4146
      @joshhunt4146 Před 3 lety +1

      Couldn’t agree more. I love the first 2! And I enjoy the 3rd but yes they should have sat down and wrote a plan out :/ such a shame. They could have been fantastic!

    • @carolinaa.4407
      @carolinaa.4407 Před 3 lety

      @@IsaacV24 totally agree with you I can't just watch them all knowing the mess it ends up being

  • @IsaacV24
    @IsaacV24 Před 3 lety +18

    The more and more I hear about this, the more and more I realize JJ Abrams should never have been chosen to write and direct episode IX.

    • @denM-ey3vb
      @denM-ey3vb Před 3 lety +2

      Can you also include that rian Johnson should not have been chosen to write a nonsense story In the last Jedi for a middle story of a trilogy??

    • @JonytobiUchiha
      @JonytobiUchiha Před 3 lety +5

      @@denM-ey3vb Well to be honest they should have just let Rian end it. Could have been better cause atleast is the same director/vision.

    • @IsaacV24
      @IsaacV24 Před 3 lety

      den71353 M no because TLJ was the only film in the trilogy that was actually trying to tell a story. You may not like it, but there’s actually a story there unlike TFA or TROS.

    • @lazedout8755
      @lazedout8755 Před 3 lety

      Indiana Solo Brooo TLJ is such a mess. Does absolutely nothing with Finn or poe

    • @IsaacV24
      @IsaacV24 Před 3 lety

      LAZEDOUT it was messy but at least Finn and Poe both have stories about learning from failure and/or heroism. I’ll certainly take messy over no arc especially if that arc is one that I can still get investment for with each viewing of the film.

  • @gundamnmechas8518
    @gundamnmechas8518 Před 3 lety

    That's the Freedom on Rob's shelf; didn't know he was a Gundam fan!

  • @jojojuly85
    @jojojuly85 Před 3 lety +1

    I thought Solo was kind of forgettable. When talking about Star Wars I always forget Solo was a movie until it's brought up. And I've seen it four times. Lol

  • @NerdonFilm
    @NerdonFilm Před 3 lety

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen Robert that pissed 😂.

  • @MichaelAivaliotis
    @MichaelAivaliotis Před 3 lety +1

    It was pretty obvious they never had a plan. C’mon

  • @christophercompton7825

    his shirt talked more about "the spice" then the dune trailer

  • @MrJTGarner
    @MrJTGarner Před 3 lety

    Which makes it all the more impressive how awesome a job they did.

  • @Chill59190
    @Chill59190 Před 3 lety +1

    I just fast forwarded to Robert's part of the video to see what he has to say lol.

  • @hunnymonster7190
    @hunnymonster7190 Před 3 lety

    Just here for the humble pie hahaha

  • @nroshdy174
    @nroshdy174 Před 3 lety

    Which episode did John Campea discuss Boyega’s comments? I can’t find the episode, can someone sed me the link

  • @grizzla71
    @grizzla71 Před 3 lety +1

    JJ was a puppet who was enticed with a big pay check. He sold-out on Ep9.
    KK flat-out lied in an interview when she stated that Palps was the plan all along.
    Why isn’t she just gone already?
    The longer she stays the angrier fans get and the longer we wait for more films with new ideas, new hopes.
    Trevorrow’s Duel Of The Fates script is my Ep9 head canon.
    The Rise Of Skywalker. The RISE of SKYWALKER. WTF does it even mean?
    It doesn’t book-end a saga.
    It doesn’t mean anything other than Rey’s final line of dialogue. The title really doesn’t reflect the story.
    Trevorrow got a raw deal. KK made a bad call in a long list of bad calls. Just GO already for Christ sake :(

  • @fanartexhibit
    @fanartexhibit Před 3 lety +1

    It can only be arrogance as the reason for this. Assuming fans would just turn up regardless of the quality.

  • @Averagejoe-wl9ym
    @Averagejoe-wl9ym Před 3 lety

    Rob, that was fucking brilliantly said! So right on!

  • @robinhorst706
    @robinhorst706 Před 3 lety +1

    John calmy points out disney fucked up and then Rob comes in and says it the way it feels.

  • @thekylepace
    @thekylepace Před 3 lety +3

    They should have just went with George's outline that he gave when Disney acquired Lucas Film.

    • @vorsye
      @vorsye Před 3 lety

      Even George Lucas said that people would’ve hated his movie.

  • @neilhanstock
    @neilhanstock Před 3 lety +1

    Daisy did not say the words 'No plan'. She spoke about changing their minds on more than one occasion.
    After all, if they really had no plan TFA would never have been made, much less, the entire trilogy.

  • @magic75450
    @magic75450 Před 3 lety +2

    This thumbnail says it all- she's Riddler's daughter!! It makes perfect sense, because of some random easter egg. 😏😉

  • @scooter2d2
    @scooter2d2 Před 3 lety

    And a good reason to show why Rey had NO ARC AT ALL in 3 movies. They had no clue where she was headed or where she came from until the last minute.

  • @playthatagainbruh394
    @playthatagainbruh394 Před 3 lety +1

    I could listen to Rob all day on this...he is completely correct. I'm not a trekkie but I know a lot of them were angry with Abrams - now I know how they feel

  • @7hew0lv3r1ne
    @7hew0lv3r1ne Před 3 lety

    If I think too much about TROS and trying to make sense of it, my head starts to hurt. It's such a mess.

  • @FerReelDoe
    @FerReelDoe Před 3 lety

    "PREACH!!!"

  • @carolinaa.4407
    @carolinaa.4407 Před 3 lety +3

    The sequels had characters with potential but none of them have consistency or depth, except maybe Kylo Ren and I think that's due to the actor and not the writing, this sequel trilogy is really a mess.

    • @snack491
      @snack491 Před 3 lety +1

      Definitely the writing, the actor was there to serve the character written in the screenplay. The reason Kylo is the most consistent out of all 3 films is that they have least change on him through 3 films. The Last Jedi was very consistent with Kylo because Rian Johnson like the direction of that character, but he hated Finn, so he put him in the pointless casino sequences. Because of that, when it comes to The Rise of Skywalker, JJ don't have to really worry about rewritting Kylo. Honestly Kylo is easily the best character in this trilogy.

  • @ivantomas8611
    @ivantomas8611 Před 3 lety

    There was NO LEADERSHIP on that ship AT ALL!

  • @dropkick79
    @dropkick79 Před 3 lety

    Love how Rob just game out swinging.

  • @VickStarkiller
    @VickStarkiller Před 3 lety +1

    1. George Lucas should have written the story for the whole trilogy.
    2. JJ Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan should’ve co-Written all scripts.
    3. All directors should’ve been made to stick to the given script unless one of those three men said otherwise.

  • @Noctis198
    @Noctis198 Před 3 lety +12

    Breaking News tomorrow: Disney execs confirm Daisy Ridley will no longer be part of any future Star Wars projects.
    Damn John B and Daisy really out here breaking Disney!

    • @CARNLOU
      @CARNLOU Před 3 lety

      I don't think Daisy will care.
      With the money she made from the trilogy, the chances are excellent that she's set for life and will never have to work a day in her life again.
      Oh, and prior to her casting in Star Wars, she came from a First Class background where money was never a problem, anyhow.

  • @Swoody1866
    @Swoody1866 Před 3 lety

    Johns take was good star wars theory is the big one out atm really good to.

  • @AppleWasMyIdea
    @AppleWasMyIdea Před 3 lety

    Fans have known that there was no plan for years. At least now, the access media cannot deny it.

  • @DartagnanMagic
    @DartagnanMagic Před 3 lety

    When you say they you mean JJ. Rian smashed it out of the park in regards to his film.

  • @riper3126
    @riper3126 Před 3 lety

    Disney was like dutch van der linde "i have a plan!!!!!"

  • @SterlingHolmes1776
    @SterlingHolmes1776 Před 3 lety

    Constancy is key in every industry especially our entertainment outlets

  • @katiehelms8903
    @katiehelms8903 Před 3 lety

    Daisy Ridley was awesome. Poor girl couldn't have been given a better Star Wars movie but dang she worked with what she got.

  • @wilmartinez1
    @wilmartinez1 Před 3 lety

    They did have a plan not story wise but to make her better then everyone.

  • @adamboard1446
    @adamboard1446 Před 3 lety

    I'm a starwars fan...everytime that theme opens up and I see that dramatic/ operatic crawl I get goosebumps. I like all the starwars films and spinoffs animated and live action...why because each installment has something GOOD/APPRECIATIVE things In them. But it's clear some were more thought out than others there were bad calls, bad scripts, cartoonish moments etc but... it's all starwars to me.

  • @utgardekeep2972
    @utgardekeep2972 Před 3 lety +1

    Disney never had an endgame in mind.

  • @misterbrady100
    @misterbrady100 Před 3 lety

    Always have a plan. A bad plan can be improved. Not having a plan kills a project before it starts.

  • @WritersOnTheWall
    @WritersOnTheWall Před 3 lety

    in disney lore, their own cannon, Obi-Wan may or may not have had an affair with a mandalorian queen. if she was Obi-Wans granddaughter she would have been a mandalorian princess, she could have found the dark Saber and become mandalore and raised a mandalorian army against the first order .... the movie writes itself

  • @jonathanfreyone526
    @jonathanfreyone526 Před 3 lety +25

    JJ Abrams is an overrated filmmaker.

    • @willpotter22
      @willpotter22 Před 3 lety +1

      Jonathan Freyone i think it was also the disney suits that played a part in it as well.

    • @Meganelsonator
      @Meganelsonator Před 3 lety +1

      Good director, bad writer

  • @Buckeyesteve10
    @Buckeyesteve10 Před 3 lety

    10 years from now someone will make a documentary looking at what went wrong behind the scenes with this trilogy and it will be as inexplicably crazy as Tiger King. For the life of me I will never understand how you go into filming a TRILOGY without a 3 part story arc mapped out before you start filming.

  • @eyeheartsushi2212
    @eyeheartsushi2212 Před 3 lety +1

    LOL Rob is LIT!

  • @Val_Halla777
    @Val_Halla777 Před 3 lety

    Rob’s spot on correct.

  • @Skipntosh
    @Skipntosh Před 3 lety

    They planned on spending $4,000,000,000 on something they had no plans for smh

  • @Cole-nu8gh
    @Cole-nu8gh Před 3 lety

    ROB YOU ROCK SIR