Lets learn DBFZ! - About using assists in combos
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- čas přidán 1. 03. 2018
- Heavily requested video so here it is! I hope its not too rambly as I guess I now understand why there was so many questions as its kinda difficult to discuss on a level past "do combo, hit assist, keep comboing". I hope you find some value in this video or it otherwise helps you out!
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Heavily requested video so here it is! I hope its not too rambly as I guess I now understand why there was so many questions as its kinda difficult to discuss on a level past "do combo, hit assist, keep comboing".
I swear this video came just in time I’m new to fighting Games and watching your vids have really helped out I’ve literally went from a complete scrub to somewhat ok now thanks
happened with me with another game hes covered. Rooflemonger is da best@!
This is exactly what I needed. Your opening so much for me, I really appreciate your videos rooflemonger
I legit could not combo into assist before this, thank you for the lesson.
If it wasn't for your assist tier list video, I would have never considered Tien's assist but I put him as my anchor with 21 and Cell and the results, at least in terms of combo potential, have been great
A tip that opened my eyes was that you can press assist at the same time as you press any move. So if you wanna extend after a light punch u do light pung and assist at the same time (usually with exepctions of course). Ive had this in mind when experimenting with assist combos and it has helped a lot
Just subbed so I can get good at punch kicks. thank for the tutorial. keep up the good work
You're always helpful Roof! Thank you! 😊
Your vids have helped me so much. I went from new player to online tyrant in a month with hard practice and studying your vids. Thanks!!
Happy to have helped friend
Yes lawd. I been waiting for this
dude. you honestly read my mind with this video as i kept thinking of posting a comment asking for this lol. and then even things i figured id comment on as i was watching always seem to get discussed. kudos as always. would love to see an even deeper dive into this topic. for instance i usually use trunks and cell as 2nd and 3rd and am having a hard time figuring out specifically how to extend combos with these two. would love to see more examples where you just pick a bunch of random pairs of characters (prolly avoiding the beam ones on assists since they seem a little too easy to figure out stuff for) and just show how you would lab them not knowing how to build combos off of their assists and what common things you test and how you go about figuring it all out for the general case of two random characters
I definitely need this because I can’t for the life of me understand when to call these assists in and not turn my combo blue
I’m on a rooflemonger montage. I must study
Thanks a ton for making this video!!
Great video keep up the good work
Thanks this is very helpful
I've recently learned that there actually is a use to using Tien's assist (as well as other assists) at the end of a combo (after a generic down smash attack). And that is if you time it well, you can air dragon rush them for a meterless snapback. Alternatively, you can do j.LLL after assist and then call your 2nd assist and still get an air dragon rush meterless snapback--pretty neat! ^_^
Thank you
vegeta's j2h is like the a21 thing you showed up at the begining of the video ;)
Can you show some trunk assist videos :L can make it work with goku black
Are you pressing the H at the same time as the assist on the vegeta/tien example?
Yeah i just got the timing for the beam assist but this was necessary
Ty!
I wanna thank you for the great work you do. I have a question, what would you recommend for the assist buttons instead of the the ones by default L2 and R2, in a eight button stick?? i'm having a hard time getting the assist from those far away buttons! Maybe you come up with an alternative. Again, thank you so much for your passion in fighting games.
Honestly part of the reason I play on pad is I can't find a layout I like on arcade stick. Nothing seems intuitive on arcade stick as far as the layout is confirmed
That said most people I know who play on stick their layout is like this
L M H
S a1 a2
I think it just takes some getting used to, either that or you can drop the dragon rush and super dash binding to be assists and manually input dragon rush, super dash and sparking when you need them. I don't particularly like this method though because sometimes you can mistime the double-button inputs and it doesn't come out. I personally don't have any problems pressing the far right buttons on a stick with my pinky though but I also understand that a lot of people don't use them, mostly because arcade cabinets don't have the fourth buttons.
Can I see you do a teen Gohan and piccolo tips/tricks/combo guide please?
I will try to get around to as many characters as I can in time!
I know the idea of this video was to make it as simple as possible but I was wondering if you could incorporate 2 relaunches in your specific combo? Starting with the nappa relaunch can you do another air series into dunk into cell assist-relaunch? Or will they flip out from hitstun decay?
Anyone can figure out a way to brute force 2 assist into a combo, you just gotta practice it out. My nappa team I often use both assists (16 and vegeta) in the combo.
check the nappa combo video on my channel if you wanna see some examples of that
Damn my main problem with the pop up assist is I can get the follow up my dragon dash won’t come out
How do I use horizontal beam assists (Goku, Black) for this out of the corner? Midscreen they just blow the opponent away from me.
Generally speaking you homing dash after them.
Or just play as hit and use his beams
I have to get it though my ignorant self that I have to go into practice rather than just going in ranked and casual to learn to master this stuff
Upgrade Ink I'm the opposite. Everything I've learnt from training mode I never put into practise in actual matches. I only play training mode
+SakMinZeez just try your stuff in Arcade Mode then ;)
When your are comfortable doing your combos on moving target, then you can start doing it against real people
The best practice is in actual matches
Yeah but sometimes, you will hit walls that you need to overcome. And those can only be overcomed within a quiet place like the Training Room, where you are allowed to try,fail,master, commit errors and grow without being punished before you get to understand it.
As dangerous as these fucks are online, ur gunna have to go to practice mode to learn.
These guys have no problem not letting you move the entire match lol
How do you quickly reset to each corner in practice mode?
Select and right or left, up to swap spots and down to reset to center
Nice work ma man Im gonna put all the videos Ive missed this week, im gonna be more than an hour with rooflemonger, be jealous internet
Can't seem to put Gotenks' assist into combos.
Toxic45 His assist is one of the best in the game. You usually have to time his a bit earlier than most and homing dash for a follow up if you're too far away.
Thanks for the info
Thanks, I'll try this
I love you!
Any chance of remaking this video because of the new assist system?
yessir I wanna remake a lot of the classics its just i got so many no idea what order they gonna be in
@@rooflemonger awesome can't wait.
How do you do two dunks in one combo?
You are not allowed to do the same dunk twice in one combo. However you can do different ones. So you can use one quarter circle forward one, one quarter circle backwards one.
rooflemonger I can never get the 214L or M to hit after a combo in the air. It always just whiffs as they recover
Those are spacing dependent. If you are at the same level or higher than your foe in the air, it will always miss. You need to be slightly below them and tailor your combo accordingly.
rooflemonger ok thank you my guy. That helps a lot. Keep up the nice work:)
I don't get how to use the third character
Well if you have no issue using a second character then the 3rd shouldn't be a problem?
rooflemonger like I'll switch to my 2nd character but I don't know how to switch to my 3rd until on of my people die
Switching to your third is as simple as switching from your 2nd. The 2 assist buttons are also your tag buttons and you can use them to tag either by holding in the button, or by hitting forward+the appropriate assist button
Can we get games with you?
Yeah whenever im streaming which is usually every wed/thurs/fri I am more than happy to take on anyone who asks.
Piccolo tutorial combos please?
Next will be vegeta since I already promised it. After that I don't know.
rooflemonger Ok, thanks :D
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true love we makin - capcom vs snk2
You should pull up the virtual controller so people can see when EXACTLY you're pressing the assist button in your combo
Just go lab and practice
Nothing against you but I agree this video was unnecessary I feel like a lot of people have gotten spoiled to looking up tutorials on CZcams and they forgot to actually go to the training room and learn themselves like I look up certain things on the Internet for help But not something as simple as this
KELSOKELSO25 a lot of people are new to this genre of fighting games, I don’t see anything wrong with videos like this.
KELSOKELSO25 Yeah this day and age people do just want their hand held
KELSOKELSO25 if they learn, then they learn and are better in the future. A lot of the people who picked up this game have never really played a true fighting game at a competitive level and have no idea where to start looking for things.
Sure they could definitely figure it out on their own given the correct drive and enough time, but most people just don’t have that much time anymore.
Things that feel simple and intuitive to experienced players can still feel foreign and unfathomable to novices.
ItsATrap what do you mean not have time just like people create Combo tutorials Think about how much time they spend in training mode mode to learn combos and set up’s People have lives people have work children etc. But come on now I learned how to use a assists by the second day the game was out and I had to work that day
Jack Bobbyson I don’t really know what you’re trying to say.
If you’re asking what I think takes up people’s time, its work, house upkeep stuff, friends, kids, other forms of entertainment, the internet, pets, etc.