ATS Diesel and Banks Power?
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- When ATS Diesel needed data acquisition to evaluate their new Stage 3 turbo for 2019+ RAM trucks, they called Banks. The ATS team was so impressed with the iDash DataMonster its suite of pressure and temp sensors that they replaced all of their existing gauges with iDashes... Not just in their development trucks but in the dyno cell too!
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00:00 Intro
01:16 The test
01:46 iDash for data acquisition
02:54 On-road test
06:49 Heading up "the Gauntlet"
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That's incredible! Actually putting the work in to optimize the turbo is incredible. I'm super impressed ATS!
That you for the well worded and comprehensive video. That is a very nice package. I am looking forward to that purchase. Thank you.
Adding wideband O2 readings to the iDash is a great idea.
Great video though --- and honestly, kudos to you guys appreciating the Banks system!!
This was a very informative video on many levels.
From the technical perspective, the drive ability perspective and so on.
My wife and I just purchased a 2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Diesel Dually. I know nothing about this vehicle other then it can tow my toy hauler and Harleys inside and to not allow the fuel tank to get to E.
Anyways you brought up some great points about towing. From driving through the plains up through the foothills of this mountain range and the things to be mindful of to not pushing the vehicle to hard to what to keep an eye on.
I noticed I have lost of temp gauges in between the RPM & Speedo that I can read and keep an eye on.
I will be traveling from So California to Central Utah in about a month towing the toy hauler along the way.
You’ve definitely planted some things in my head to be mindful of.
Thanks.
Wow....Banks meets ATS Diesel meets TFL Truck.
Was going to say the same, isn't this the Ike?
Jesus christ, ain't that the truth
Best of both worlds. Both are great companies with great products.
I bet he’s looking into a banks rear differential cover as well since it’s better than a ATS one 😆
Truth!🤣
This video serves a very useful purpose: It shows just about every thing NOT to do when towing.
The RZR in the back needs to be backed into the trailer dummy. Think about where the motor is. Thats why its whipping around. 6:50. Can't even keep the truck between the lines. I've GCVWR'd 30k with my 06' 2500HD CCLB LBZ and didn't get trailer sway like that.
please ive towed 30 apartment buildings behind my dirtbike. All you do is run one safety chain and no sway bars. its easy
You guys at ATS are a class act. I’ll combined with Gail Banks I just don’t think I can get any better than that Gail is been a class act for decades I really appreciate his attitude and stuff like that his tenacity to make things better as something as it’s not so simple differential covers and I learned so much on his video about that anyway I have an old 91.5 Dodge I’ll give you three guesses with under the hood I’m gonna be upgrading my HX 35 to a Ascot with the turbo is 64 or 65 something like that anyhow I have stage two injectors from dynamite diesel and I got a hungry diesel fuel pen I got a fuel pen from hungry diesel coming and 40 thorough 3800 RPM governor spring and I’m gonna go with the emanates timing device I’m not a big fan of putting in huge fuel to I don’t like to make a smoke show if I can help it and I believe in power through efficiency as much as possible and I’ve been preaching that to guys not preaching but commenting that the guys over the years and the chickens come home to roost I understand the EPA is cracking down real hard on somebody’s aftermarket companies but anyways you guys keep up the good work when I put my 47 RHN I’m gonna take a real hard look at your of five star tour converter it looks like a really nice piece all right
that back trailer is whippin around behind you
I went to Breckinridge last week and yes there is no air my stock 6.0 was rolling coal up and down that stretch of I-70
That’s a tuning problem my man. I had a highly modified 6.0 Excursion and pulled a 13k lb toy hauler all the time with it. The only time I ever produced smoke is pulling away from a stop when turbo didn’t have time to spool up. Get a good tune and make that thing run clean and better.
@@BrianLampright913 I live in Nebraska it has no problem here
Please. Can you tell me exactly what has been done to this truck. I really need this setup for my 19 3500 DRW
wish they would make the idash a little bigger, its awesome we wanna see it! also, how do you only get 16 psi at WOT pulling 30k?
I wonder if Another Transmission Soon, also means Another Turbocharger Soon, or if they can actually make a turbo better than their transmissions?
That’s what we call em in Colorado. 😏
is there a compound turbo kit for the 2020 Cummins 6.7?
I just purchased a 2021 ram 2500 with the Cummins any things to watch out for Im a duramax guy I have a 2012 Cummins but it’s a different animal and it’s manual so I didn’t have to worry about the trans only the clutch .
Scale the entire unit. I want picture of tag.
I would like to know what gear ratio and tire size that truck has? Those transitions are pretty good for 30,000 pounds
What kind of brake package is added with the stage three set up?
Been there done that in my 2011 F250 6.7 powerstroke. Completely stock and pulling a 12,000 lb toyhauler. Had no problem at all. I have been all over the rockies, from Colorado to Wyoming and South Dakota. Ran thru the desert in Utah, New Mexico and Nevada with temps over 100 deg with no issues.
Was that the Aisen transmission or the 68 RFE?
When can we expect derringer for 2020 powerstroke
Awesome videos I will be taking that exact same route I will not be pulling anything but I will be driving a brand new truck for a brand new used truck from Cali to MN. Wish I had time to install two things I can watch it all on the data recorder but I guess I’ll just watch the videos
What are the brand and model of those Ram wheels?
What is the wheel, tire and suspension setup on this truck??
cool setup
My Cummins/Aisin transmission pulled my fifth wheel across the Rockies.
Looking at the angle of the wheels on your utility trailer, it looks like it is overloaded.
I want to get an iDash for my 95 F350 Powerstroke but it says it's for 1996+ vehicles that have OBD2 even though my 95 came from the factory with OBD2 and communicates on the SAE J1850PWM protocol. I know I've heard tales of the 94.5 and up OBS Powerstrokes having both the Ford OBD connector and the OBD2 one from the factory but had to have the PCM flashed so it could use the OBD2 port which also left the OBD1 port useless afterwords. All that said would an iDash work on my 95 since it does use the J1850PWM protocol?
The iDash 1.8 (iDash DataMonster and iDash Super Gauge) read CAN data. Your 96 is pre-CAN. Yes, you have OBD, but not CAN. CAN was mandated in 2008. Our current iDash offerings are CAN data only. However, we do hope to release a pre-CAN (J1850PWM) at some point in the near future.
When are you working on Hoonigans 200mph diesel Camaro? 🤔🤔
30k on a single wheel wow. Nice work on the turbo set up. I've run many of your products keep up the great work.
Yea no way it weighs 30k.
@@jonmeray713 20k.....maybe.
30k gross combined, use your brain.
@@vegastyle84 before insults, he was making a statement based on the facts given in the video. Incorrect facts? Yes. Now make a factual statement on what GCWR really means compared to the actual near overloaded weight he was tail waggin up that hill.
@@PBVader he at no point said the vehicle was rated to tow it, the only statement was on the weight. Its over 20k gross, the truck and camper would be in the 20k neighborhood.
By the way --- little known fact...normally all the grades on the interstate road system were designed around an 8% grade --- however, the last grade, on the west side(west side, Eastbound) of Eisenhower, for roughly 750 feet, is 12%...right before you turn abruptly to the left to the tunnel approach.
I had an ats trans in my 06 lbz and it worked great til it was time to collect on my warranty of course the shop that did the install shut down bc of COVID call them directly and get no where’s but another couple thousand out of my pocket didn’t appreciate it
Did he just say 1400 degrees for the egts?!?! Jesus Christ
DPFs man. Gotta keep them hot and happy.
@@txbubba96 Cummins pistons are aluminum.... continued temps of 1400 will melt them
I have a 2013 cummins bone stock that sees 1400 degrees regularly. Never melted anything. They have great piston cooling jets and a big ass oil cooler
So he’s running 46lbs of exhaust back pressure and only 15 lbs of boost pressure? That ratio seems way off. How does Banks feel about that?
Exactly what I was thinking. Drive pressure seems way too high.
over 1300F egt seems also insane
Thinking the same too. I would love to hear Banks weigh in on that. I figured there would be more back pressure from the dpf, 1.5 psi doesn’t sound bad.
7:55 is where they talk about drive and boost pressure.
Is’t that the Ike gauntlet that tfl truck have been running for years?
If you set up your 5th wheel to the right height (level), you would have an easier tow. That’s why you are all over the road.
Allan Moulton mine sits high in the front. I’m out of adjustment and cent get it any lower. Pulls just fine. This clown pulling 30k with a 2500. What an idiot?! Talk about unsafe.
@@jamessprague5653 this truck is also lifted on big wheels... talk about a towing setup
Like all of the others on the Road who build their Tow Rig backwards . Buy a truck, then almost immediately install a lift and large tires, then they have to start keeping up with The Joneses. Next comes the "Toys" and the trailer to haul them, then 6 months later they find themselves at the RV Super show buying a place for The wife unit to sleep and possibly stay dry,which might last a year if they're lucky because 98% of RV'$ built in today's world start coming apart the moment they hit the road. Then, if the initial unit wasn't a Toy Hauler, then it's time to Reup to an even more shittily built Toy toter where they find again they are constantly at the RV Repair shop trying to get that warranty work done only to find out that it's going to take 2 months to make that happen, because all of the cash paying suckers get 3 to 5 techs because they charge $120/Hr so warranty might get 3 techs,maybe. So before long, they're discovering that it cost 1K to have a weekend out with the toys, and the truck still needs more upgrades. But they also find that in the last 2 years, new trucks have all of the upgrades performed, so its more decisions. And they may have to go another 60k in debt. And with both looking for better paying jobs so as to keep up that ever more expensive weekend play time,and keep The Repo man away. Enjoyment has gotten out of hand in today's world.
Are you guys running a lift pump to maintain those AFR’s with that set up? If so what brand? Just curious how the CP4 holds up to the bigger jobs like a larger turbo.
I need to upgrade my fully deleted ram 3500 dually's lift pump real soon. Looking at FASS fuel 165gph titanium. I've heard Airdogs tend to malfunction. That is why they have an excellent warranty program.
On the 4th gen Cummins motors you swap out the cp4 to a twin cp3 system for higher power applications
In the beginning of the video he talks of countless transmission failures from I 70, what he fails to mention is that all the low mile trans failures were one that he 'built' and sold
They still have an awesome 5y/500k warranty.
@Phillip Aubin I thought they were decent. We got sonax, revmax, firepunk, PDD. Any of these good and if not, name one that is please.
@@ChannelZeroOne which they don't stand by. Do some more research and you'll find out.
@@ChannelZeroOne 😂😂 naw I bought a fully built Allison from ATS and it was trash. Day one install couldn’t drive it out of the shop because of a bad torque converter! Had another torque converter go out months later and was never right after that. The warranty means nothing if you’re out of your truck while waiting on them! Never should you buy a $13k trans and have so many issues. Go stock.
Isn't a lifted truck counterintuitive to towing?
Pretty sure that truck is just leveled no lift in the rear. These RAMs are super tall from factory you can run 37” tires with just a 2.5 front level
Anybody else wanting this dude to get the hell out of the left lane?
The camera truck was in the other Lane in front, so he couldn't move over.
@@allanb3222 doesnt that just further the fact they did that intentionally?
Seems like that is a way of life these days. I see trailers on the left quite often, sometimes they are in the carpool lane !
@@Garth2011 nothing wrong with a trailer in carpool for most areas so long as the passenger count is met.
@@jaydunbar7538 Disagree. Any trailer type in CA is required to only use the right most lane except if passing. To get to the carpool lane you'd have to violate the right most lane restriction 3 or 4 times and then once you're in the HOV lane, you just broke another Vehicle code. Check the books, in CA trailers are a no go. Not sure what CO has in their VC book but I'd guess its the same.
Are those egts acceptable
yeah but have you been through coquihalla highway
Will this set up work on a 24 valve 5.9 Cummins?
Yes. With some slightly different parts. Go to the ATS and Banks websites
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The highest point is at 11,158ft according to cdot. Vail pass itself is just over 10,000ft.
Actually closer to 10,600ft
Highest point is 11,322 ft ASL
I drove through that tunnel many times, the elevation is different on either side, one side is slightly less than 11k, and the other one is right over 11k. The tunnel itself, if i remember correctly, was like 1.7 miles long.
@@andreystarovoytov3337 The north tunnel is 21 feet shorter...1.693 vs. 1.697 miles
Im just here waiting for another episode of killing a duramax and considering its been 2 month since the last video im going to guess that they blew it up and the next video is going to be interesting.
We're announcing today that the Killing A Duramax series is on hold. We're explaining why in our weekly newsletter. The newsletter video will be posted on our Facebook and Banks Insider CZcams feeds.
Banks Power Covid or the EPA?
That is so cool! But I have to admit you guys did not do that pass Justice. Go check out the fast lane Truck those boys know how to run an auto blog channel
Was this driving test done with the factory Cummings transmission or with one of your own ATS transmissions
Cummins..... there's no need to add extra letters... it's spelled and pronounced Cummins...
i have 2016 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel i want to transmission Update
I think I need to get one. Better then buy 10 gauge clusters
Runs very clean. AFR 19 is around lambda 1.3 and that is very nice. Do you use piggy back to tune this truck or do you modifie the software on the ecu. Was this the ecodiesel ?
The ecodiesel is in 1500's. This is the 6.7 Cummins
@@TheRoostersGarage what ecu is used for cummins engine ?
@@DVerbe I don't know what ATS is using with this setup.
@@TheRoostersGarage i should have mentioned that i was talking about the stock ecu.
@@DVerbe The stock ECU is whatever Dodge puts in. I don't have any detailed info, other than a Cummins tech I know hooked up his Cummins tool to his 6.7 Dodge and it said it wasn't a Cummins engine meaning it's not Cummins programming.
Would be really cool to see a co-development between ATS and Banks
Great video but you really need a 1 ton dually with what your pulling you might have the power but that don’t mean poop if you can’t keep it stable
Seen plenty of people in the ditch that thought their half ton was adequate for pulling a camper through north Dakota winds.
32k on a srw Jesus nobody talks about how overloaded they are?
I'm about to do it now 😂
Hoping one of your Allison conversions will make its way to me
They work great on 3rd gens give banks a call and order one of these 🤣
Jk fyi .... you can't use these on a third gen alone......
217 degrees on the coolant temp and we're not even scratching the surface ? 212 is boiling right?
Austin B87 212* is the boiling point of water, “correct” but that is not under pressure , pressure increases the boiling point , now ADD anti-freeze it goes up again ! So maybe someone can give us the true new boiling points.
50/50 mix with ethylene glycol and water with a 15 psi cap should put boiling near 270F (132C). You have other issues well below those temps, but boiling won’t be a problem.
0:29 ... Thats what she said!
Ok Clint...you live here --- you should know better --- Eisenhower east portal, 11,013 ft...west portal, 11,158 ft...and in fairness, you guys need to start running Loveland, 11,990 ft or Berthoud Pass, 11,306 ft...mostly because there is a HUUUUGE difference between 11,000 flat --- and 11,500 or 12,000...and really a telling amount of data that the EGT and turbo and piston temperature are going through in order to achieve a stock 300, 350 or 400HP.
That was lame Gale! All lies and only thing banks was the data monster?
Lies about what?
Proud to say I have nothing from ATS in my truck. Probably why I have 404000 miles. Duramax LLY 565hp and 903trq at the wheels.
That trailer is not safe with all the weight on the rear axle like that. Flip the axle with a Dexter kit and it will tow level.
👍🏻
Auto makers will be on the edge of their seats (it seems) in the near future when all of the EPA restrictions for diesel get tighter the next few years. DPF back pressures will be something they should monitor and engineer to be almost zero if they plan on selling trucks to folks that will use them as intended.
Dpf back pressure is at zero, if it's working correctly.
The numbers would definately be better if all emission controls "fell of the truck".
We don't have to worry about the EPA for another 4 yrs, when Trump gets out.
@@timleung9726 Some folks just don't get the idea and health concerns. Soot and black smoke is the sign of a poorly tuned engine. Once they get fuel to burn 100%, the engine has it's maximum power and torque. Lots of information on this right here on Banks channel. They've almost got it cleaned up except for the NOx.
@Garth Clark: I'm glad I have the right tune with my mini max! I need to deliberately stomp on the pedal to be rollin coal. Next upgrade: FASS titanium 165gph lift pump.
30k lbs? You got some bulldozers inside that trailer
I agree! No way he's hauling 30k+ lbs.
Ats transmissions are awwwwwwwwfuuuuuuul
Have you owned one? What happened with it?
A Th ive seen them come in with gas motor parts in $7000 builds.
Jon Meray damn. I was considering getting a trans and turbo at the first of next year
A Th oh man i wouldnt give that trans to my worst enemy
Little more info would be nice, then only shouting that it’s bad.
Maybe you where using wrong the fluids.
I wonder how many brake applications going down the hill???
Hopefully minimal given they could use what the truck has (engine brake and manual gear selection) unlike what the other channel does.
@alan. You miss the point of the “other channel”. They are testing the FACTORY trailer tow calibration to determine its effectiveness. Any idiot can manually select gears, but when the manufacturers tout their “Tow/Haul” mode, wouldn’t you think it would be a good idea to see how well it works?
Mike K I wasn’t knocking TFL at all, just saying their methodology doesn’t take into account what a driver should be doing in such a situation. But if a vehicle is equipped with a feature (exhaust brake) just for such situations, shouldn’t that be tested as well then?
Just a sales vid on the idash....
you have two trailers that's pulling double not triple
Keep it in your lane, ching gow
I hope he knows that when double towing you can only be 65" long! I would think hes close if not over.
So he claims max power is what he’s at... 19psi is max? My lmm “max” is 25psi. The motor isn’t at max until your turbo is wound up to max boost for what it’s set at in the tune
I'm going to put my ass on the line (because I'm still under warranty and currently waiting for warranty work) and tell everyone that can see this to go to Revmax or some other builder. I'm on my 4th or 5th (I think, can't remember because its been so much) transmission in 2 years from ATS and now has to be replaced again. They had blamed it on my tuning from HPP (now CTT) saying that 220psi line pressure was too much on their stage 3 68rfe, so they had me purchase their co pilot. They blamed it on my factory transmission cooling capacity 2014 ram 3500 dually so they told me to purchase a external cooler/fan. I bought a derale 35,000btu fan/cooler combo. 2 transmissions were bad straight from them when they shipped to their "authorized installer". Each time I have had to wait for over a month before they even ship a transmission even though they have them in stock and sell them to new customers without a delay. The first failure the torque convertor failed and took the transmission with it, second failure i got the transmission and the OD and UD clutches failed within a couple days and would slip with anything over 30% throttle and the transmission ran 214°F plus from the day of install. 3 transmission failed on the test drive after install, its replacement had a bad valve body found on the test drive after install and now after a year of babying a transmission that I told them was bad after install because the torque convertor clutch would slip under 60% throttle in OD and UD (they told me it was just the new GPZ clutch packs needing to break in) I have a failed transmission again. It takes 30 days to get a replacement leaving me without a vehicle that I need to tow my RV around.
Try GOEREND iv got one of their built trannys its been flawless they also answer the phone if you got questions.Out of all their reviews iv yet to see a bad one.
I didn't know it was legal to tow that way...
Check your State Laws. It is about not only weight but length too. My buddy got pulled over with 5th wheel and boat and trailer. It was too long. He dropped the 5th wheel and had family stay in it and then moved the boat. I warned him. 😏🧐.
Depending on your license and the state, places like North Dakota commercial drivers can pull dual 53 foot trailers.
Yes you are allowed to tow double in recreational use and farm exemption. Any other scenario you need a CDL with a double and triple endorsement
@@hitchedzebra59_42 I knew about the cdl double/triple endorsement as it's common to see where I'm at, but I've never seen it for recreational before.
@@ColeSpolaric I see it here in Wyoming, Nebraska, and South Dakota often. My family used to pull their camper with the boat hooked to the rear of the camper and it worked out pretty good!!
That's not 30k. And 1400 EGT? Ouch.
Lol dude is full of shit
If it's anything like your stage 3 68 you better put it together with wing nuts. ... three transmission in a year and it's still not right !!!
I looked up the 5th wheel the side by side and the small trailer 22000.lbs tops about 10000 lbs less than you claimed! With that said hard to believe anything else you say,
22,000 in trailers/side by side + the 8,000 truck = GCWR of 30,000 give or take. The truck was required to move a gross combined weight of ~ 30,000 lbs
Ok, nothing against ATS, by why the hell wouldn't you go to Mike L. at Inglewood transmission? He is an Allison God and just down the freeway in Fullerton??? I mean, come on!
The tunnel is 11,000 ft
Bro you ain't safe pulling that camper that way. Did you upgrade your brakes?
Do you not know trailer brakes exist? The trailer has to be equipped with adequate brakes for its weight.
Wonder how reliably the power train is at 250k miles lol
Compared to what because no stroke or duramax makes it that long
Daniel Kelley Both of my Powerstrokes are over 300,000 and still strong as hell.
@@dirtysouthtv2209 ok
@@danielkelley9730 have a fleet of d Max's in so cal 240 to 320 k. Still haul ass. My son's ppe tuned d max has 345.k runs perfect leaks nothing
So much brand loyalty lol, me and my powerstroke will just hang out and watch.
But yes Cummins makes the best engine for heavy duty pickups that actually see heavy use. But unless your doing 100k miles a year at 30k pounds it doesnt matter as you won't bump into that factor. For driving it to the grocery store and pulling your camper a few times a year it really doesn't matter, whichever one your dad said was best will work great.
Indeed lots of good information, but Clint you really do have to sort out your towing issues. Get it leveled out, get a 3500 you are dangerously overloaded & the idiot comments are taking away from the solid info in the video. 2013 Ram 3500 154k , Aisin Trans with 410's (changed to 3:82 with 20" DDC hub centric wheels), Banks monster intake & I am about to install ATS VFR turbo, I am 32,500 with the weight ticket to prove it. (DRV Lx455 with a dresser in the garage) Running Amsoil in the transmission (dropped trans temp by 50 degrees immediately) Never a problem through the Rockies. Looking at the idash next after your turbo. Get your camera crew ready & we will bring the rig by & run the gauntlet for you. (shame on the guys name calling in their comments be adults)
30,000 pounds. CDL ?
That dodge is towing a triton
How do you know this?
@@2006gtobob cause..........
how much weight did he say was behind him???? and in the 2500???? thats sketchy as fuck
He was referring to total gross weight.
@@bankspower 30K+ with a vehicle that weighs 7500 pounds and a max tow rating of 19K still comes in over weight. I know here in BC Canada you’d get nailed with fines if you were ever pulled over. How’s the 68 RFE handling that? I have a 2019 HO with the Aisin.
The ATS transmissions SUCK! They probably had to rebuild it once it made it back to the shop. Towed back is more like it! I had to remove my transmission twice, and paid for the shipping from Texas, so that they could rebuild it. The reason they offer a 5 year 500,0000 warranty is because most people won't pay to remove and ship it back to them. By far the biggest mistake I have made. My transmission is still under warranty and needs to be looked at for the third time since they first rebuilt it. I am not even going to bother sending the transmission back to have them look at it. I rather just pay someone locally to rebuild it once it goes completely out. Also, if you live in Denver and still plan to have them rebuild and replace anything on your truck, you better think again. I had them remove and replace my transmission once when I was there. The next time I had to remove it I noticed that they didn't properly torque the bolts ( some being finger tight). They also cracked the rear engine cover where the starter is located. This was because they placed one of the longer bolts in the wrong spot. In the end, this transmission and anything else will cost you more than the initial purchase price.
What transmission? 68RFE?
GOEREND TRANSMISSION.
How are you towing 30,000 lbs or more? That 5th wheel, even full of water is around 14k max. No way you're towing a 16k lb trailer tandem behind the camper. Maybe 3k lbs max. The tow limit on even a 3500 SRW Ram is 23k. So, you're saying you are 10k lbs overweight? Sorry. That camper and trailer with a SxS in it is no more than 18k lbs. Which is way more reasonable.
Yup, scale that unit. I want proof.
gcwr>? maybe \
They include truck weight. 10k truck, 14k trailer 4k sxs, 2k bullshit from ATS owner Clint.
Agree. And 1.5 psid backpressure between EPA crap is within allowable gauge discrepancy. Selling a story is easy when you bypass the facts. Or did you bypass the dpf?
@@PBVader DPF is intact and working according to ATS. According to Clint, they'll be applying for a CARB EO for the kit and tune.
Please don’t encourage double towing again, opens the door to so many more dangers, people without a CDL shouldn’t be doing this. See it all the time here in Utah and I’ve also seen multiple accidents and near accidents.
Nothing better than buying a new Dodge truck to only spend $10k on the engine to make it tow better.
Or just buy a Ford
I will never spend one red cent at ats
30-32k on single rear wheel lmao your a joke.
Yeah pretty dumb to pull that much without a dully but in his defense those tires are rated the same as 1 ton tires I have them on my 16 2500HD Dmax and tires are what your weight limitations are based on mostly. Plus he was dragging all the weight the truck only had the tung weight of the 5th wheel on it but I agree with you not the safest way to go
The truck ain’t rated for it! Jesus where did you learn about towing weights? The tag on the truck tells all! Just because it will don’t make it right, safe, or legal!
@@roryrohrer7640 “Tires are what your weight limitations are based on mostly” 🤦♂️
@@givnofuchs5742 well seeing as if you aren't going to put enough weight over your axles to brake them and smash the springs flat your tires are the first thing that will blow while towing so yes tires are the main limiting factor. Let be clear the 30-32k this video claims he is pulling is GVW that's both trailers and the truck he is actually only putting the weight of the 5th on his truck which is 1500 to 2000 lbs of tung weight the toy hualer weighs 17-18k his little trailer and sxs together might weight 3k and the truck is 8k, the 5th wheel has brakes there is nothing wrong with this setup the truck is totally capable to pull this. I just don't think it the single rear wheel is the safest if I where to pull this rig (which I wouldn't I would just put the damn sxs in the trailer and call it good.
@@roryrohrer7640 If you get some properly rated tires for the truck that you intend to tow with, you’ll figure out that tires actually handle more weight than the axles. For my truck, my Ridge Grapplers are rated to hold 3750 lbs each. 2 tires per axle equals 7500 lbs. My axles are only rated to 7000 lbs.
What your actual “limitation” is and what you should find out when you first get a truck is what your specific truck is rated to tow or haul by the manufacturer. Every truck is different based on how it was built. Just because your truck has the power to tow something doesn’t mean it’s okay to do so. It’s against the law to overload a vehicle on public roads. Risk your life if you want, but don’t risk others.
Maybe this is an off topic issue...I-70 needs to get RE-DONE!! REALLLLLLLY BAD. It's at the point now where it's dangerous. Extreme pot holes and the road surface is so sunk in and rutted out its beyond belief! Cause of the Semi's...come on colorado please fix this. Hard enough to be towing up it. And then add trying to get the steering wheel jerked out of your hands is redic...
When are you guys going to delete all the garbage off the truck. Stop trying to make an inefficient system efficient
Most of these comments are annoying. 1: He's in the left lane because he doesn't want to give up any stream. He's data logging and doing product development. I pull 18k regularly with my 05 Dodge dually and I always have some slow ass car or truck holding me up. 2: Yes he's probably including the weight of the truck. I agree he shouldn't and it would've been better if he had a weight slip. 3: Trailers have brakes rated for the GVWR of the trailer and he's going up hill at 65. Not exactly an unsafe speed. 4: last but not least, I thought California was going to separate from the continent and sink or float away soon? I can't wait! By By commifornia 😁
ATS is the laughing stock of the diesel community
Why all this corny childish names, pedal monster, derringer, Aurora turbo. Next up the Barbie waste gate?
I am banging my head on the wall on this too. Must be a marketing strategy.
Because you have to separate your products from what the competition sells.
Brad Mcgrath but still the names are so childish
To appeal to all the grown children who turn their trucks into hot wheels toys.
Which also means they have money 😂
Cringe.
Too bad Denver and Colorado has become a leftist toilet. It was great back in the 90's when I lived there. I got out there just in time back in 2000.
your not missing much. traffic is bad now and cost of living is sky high.
I travel out there often...seems a bunch of people from Colorado snapped up homes in Sidney, Nebraska when Cabela’s HQ was laying off people. Colorado is losing people to Texas, Idaho, Nebraska, Oklahoma...etc.
I go to Denver and surrounding cities, and what a pain it is to get around versus 20 years ago. I remember fields and open land that are now just Condo Caskets stacked high and dense.
Well, where did you find happiness?
@@Garth2011 I am now retired and live in a small town in Western Montana of about 700 permanent residents. There is no traffic, no crime, and also no trash pickup and no mail delivery. I haul my garbage and recycle to the local transfer station about 10 miles away once a month. The Post Office is a couple of miles from me, and they provide residents with a free PO Box. It's as close to paradise as I could have imagined 20 years ago.