Busting RAM Bro Science | Banks Fact Check
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2023
- Gale Banks has read the following comment on social media one too many times: "There's no reason to upgrade your RAM's intake elbow because the head is the limiting factor!" It's time Gale sets the record straight about CFM and MAF.
At a given RPM, the volume (CFM) that the engine pumps is a fixed number, but the mass air flow (MAF) can still be increased. That’s where the Monster-Ram comes in. The massive free-flowing intake elbow increases mass flow over stock by 88.3% at the same pressure drop (restriction). The engine is still getting the same air volume, but it’s getting more air mass, and more mass within the same volume means greater air density. And, the greater the air density, the more fuel you can add.
The Monster-Ram not only increases power by increasing air density, but it also removes the risk of grid heater bolt failure by eliminating the grid heater entirely and replacing it with a high-flow billet intake plate and unrestrictive coil heater nestled vertically within its casting. This bolt is prone to dropping into the intake manifold and seriously damaging valves and pistons. If your truck has a P2609 or P0542 diagnostics trouble code, your engine might be minutes away from a catastrophic failure.
Learn more about P2609 and P0542 diagnostic trouble codes and how to prevent RAM grid heater failure.
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TLDR; I agree: here is why I agree.
At the turn of the pandemic I was trying to create a diy powered air purifying respirator, papr for short. I bought costume fans, the type for the inflatable dinosaur costumes, and cpap hoses to try and create one of my own. What I quickly discovered, aside from chasing leaks, is the difficulty in pushing any decent mass of air through a hose can be. Physics dictated that the longer the hose the more pressure resistance you encounter, and the turbulent flow from kinks or bends increase the power required to push a desired amount of air through the system. I quickly abandoned that project as store bought cage fans either don't have the capacity or would cost the same as an industry provided papr would be.
In Aerospace applications, turbine engines, are fighting between the need to extract energy from the exhaust flow and compressing the air to feed the combustion chambers. You add more work to air and you get less in return. Hot air expands and it then needs even more power to push through the system. If you keep working the air, the temperature rises, and the more exotic materials you need to combat temperatures capable of melting iron.
It is easy to draw air through an intake horn and filter to the mouth of a turbo; this regime is dependent on viscous drag which is negligible. What is difficult to deal with is the heat and resulting path after the turbo. Any portion of plumbing after the turbo deals with pressure drag that is dependent on the texture, path, and number of obstructions. This air wants to equalize with atmospheric conditions to return to it's lowest state of entropy, it strongly does not want to stay squeezed. Power therefore is limited by the size of the inlet side of the turbo and by how air temperature; directly related to density, is managed. More turns/ roughness = more temperature; the longer the hose = more drag. So any reduction in complexity and resistance however small = FREE POWER (At the cost of engineering r&d)!
And you are? Why would it matter if you agree? your channel certainly doesn't aid your credibility any. Why didn't you film and upload anything to your channel on this video hosting platform you are on?
@eriklarson9137 I'm not here to split hairs, and I do not take pleasure in one-sided arguments. Know this, the world is much bigger than any one youtube channel. We should all strive for knowledge in our own way. I stated my opinion and my observation in a manner that is digestable to non-engineer type folk. Within reason, I expect that mechanics, craftsmen, technitians, and engineers alike can draw from their practical experience to connect the dots. I have attended university, and I do have a degree in aerospace engineering. If i go in depth and try to explain how and why Banks Power, so kindly pinned my comment, we would have to cover physics, aerodynamics, and differential equations just to cover the basics. My channel is for my own amusement; I do not expect to please anyone and everyone with the videos or comments i've posted. I am an individual, and I try to be respectful to others while I am online. I hope you can take it upon yourself to reflect on what you have posted (if you delete your comment, know that I will not forget we've had this discourse in a public forum). Have a good day
I stopped reading at pandemic
@@renohuskerdu4592😂well it's pinned so there's that.
@renohuskerdu4592 I just posted a comment saying it isnt possible to educate people who stop listening once science is mentioned. It is perfect that I read this thread next
Gale Banks is a god damned national treasure. Cracks me up while teaching me useful things.
its amazing how these other shops just throw parts at cars and no testing. banks is the authority in engines
Data based decision making prevails!!!
Not gd, he is blessed with His Skill
He’s killing them 😂
I literally opened up the comments to write the same thing and was glad to find someone already said it!
"Casey leg humping Anthony" what a great sense of humor. God knows I hope these two actually saw this episode. It would be interesting to hear their reaction after being called out and schooled by the professor himself. It says a lot when the man who founded the company takes his time to share the science behind the products he sells. Gale Banks, a great American entrepreneur, you sure could have taught Jeggs and Summit a thing or two.
I almost choked on my drink.
That killed me, I'm using that line someday soon.
Thing is, you’re using science, not voodoo mechanics. That’ll never catch on LOL.
Gale, I used to think Banks products were overpriced. Having now watched several of your videos, I see just how much engineering goes into every single part your company produces. Since engineering takes time (and we all know that "time is money") and plenty of effort, I think the price point on your products is completely justified. I want to give you a sincere thank you for taking the time to explain WHY your products work so well.
Because it's all manufactured in the US I think its priced appropriately, considering its providing American jobs and strengthening our economy . Their customer service is also stellar.
Also saves you bucks because your turd doesn't fail $$$$$
Absolutely agree. You’ll see similar products out there for half the price. Sounds great until you see them head to head with banks. Some hurt performance even though they look similar. Will always use banks
Thank you for the kind words. As many know, manufacturing in the US can be challenging but we're committed to it. Regarding customer service... if someone is willing to spend their hard-earned money on one of our products, we're thrilled to stand behind it. .
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eco motors em 100 engines
Hearing Gale Banks call someone a leghumper made my Friday.
I love watching Gale going on a warpath at midnight, its enjoyable and soothing lol
Gale is an engineering genius. Everything he does is based on data. Very smart man
He combines the knowledge of an engineer, with the communication skills of a salesman. What he tells here is basic engine knowledge plus some simple flow test data.
Most engineers just cant communicate what they know to the layman, or just dont bother to, because fools are damn sure of what they think they know.
It is respectable though, that Gale keeps reading and responding to their Facebook comments.
@@SjanzoI agree. Most engineers simply don't waste their time engaging the ignorant.
There’s no use arguing with a fool. He only rages and scoffs, and tempers flare. Proverbs 29:9
@@Sjanzoakin to playing chess with a chicken. The chicken doesn’t know that it’s been beaten. It will just strut around, knock over the pieces and shit on everything.
@@GermanJoe2 Damn, as a Dutchman i didnt know that American saying, but it describes so much of my career 🤣🤣👌
He has taught the diesel engine industry some very profound lessons.
"Some of them are so outstandingly wrong, I'm afraid it's infecting the pool:" Gale, I spent many years in the automotive repair, modification, and racing business, and almost all of them were spent in the same position! I wish CZcams had been around then , because I would've been the grumpy young man… :-) Keep up the good work, Gale!
Mr Banks: thanks for showing all these kids they need to stay in school before they talk.
Chemist here - you are spot on your explanation. What most commentetors miss is the difference between volume and mass. In order to push more mass into the same volume, thus increasing the density, you need to apply pressure: this is what turbos do. But the result is extra heat that needs to be removed: this is what intercoolers do. And of course you controll all this with a MAF because all you really care for is mass of air for the combustion to work.
Thanks for all the great info, I hope these kids get motivated to go to school to one day be like you. God bless!
If the temperature and pressure of a gas is known, the density and mass of a given volume of gas can be calculated. This is one reason SCFM (Standard Cubic Feet per Minute) is used instead of CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute). The difference is that SCFM is in reference to a standard pressure and temperature. For example, the NIST standard (68 deg F at 14.7 PSIA (pounds per square inch absolute)) is commonly used in the USA.
At 3:57 into the video, Gale says the intake filter system is pulling in 1,200 CFM but the engine is pulling 400 CFM. If SCFM had been used, the flow rate would be the same for both.
Brush up on their spelling and compositional skills.
😂 Gale Banks is a dying breed. Love how he calls people out.
Ive never owned a diesel and probably never will due to the insane price of them nowadays even for the older stuff... but I ALWAYS watch Banks to learn as much as I can. Its insane how smart this guy is
The original best idea of a diesel is... its an engine for life. Re-sleeving most designs requires zero machining - try that on a gas engine. Rings going out? Change power pack... and probably never pull the engine. If rod & piston are weighed/balanced to spec, there's no balance work to re-do. Keep your fuel clean and under 135F [most engines] and life is good.
@@flinch622you realize few diesel engines in light trucks have replaceable sleeves, right?
The same principles apply to gas engines.
Now on my 4th Cummins.
Gale Banks will help me
Keep it running forever 😊
Don't need a diesel you can get a good gasser and give it some artificial wind and they'll do fine and you can still get a good gas mileage tune. I'm wanting to copy a friend and build a turbo 4.9 i6 and stick it into an old f350. He's pushing 300hp@2800rpm and 580ft/lbs at 2050rpm which is still fairly low.
I have one for almost a year. I can tell you, it made a HUGE difference in performance. And a big gas milage difference on my longer trips.
I would like to add this for no other reason than to remove my worry of the grid heater bolt failure. I need to find someone who can do the install in South East Michigan. Did you do your own install and if so, how hard for someone than knows no more than how to turn a wrench?
@@InLineDiesel6 it’s not terribly complicated but you would need a few specific line wrenches to get fuel lines off etc.
Wouldn’t trust to just any mechanic.
Probably is a few hrs min to install.
Here in Ontario I have a couple places that are fantastic, but this im a mechanic and would do myself.
Heck, id say buy 2 of em and bring them up, will do my truck and yours
Why you put gas in diesel
@@InLineDiesel6 It is not hard; just takes some time. I did the upgrade in an RV park (they shipped it to the local UPS office for pickup during a 3 month trip.)
@@frostedjedi That is the level of 99% of commenters.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Gale Banks doesn't back up his knowledge because he has to, he does it because he can.
This man has probably forgotten more about forced induction and airflow than any other person on the planet has learned.
* He does it because he is a scientist. Data means everything.
@@anthonylanglois8267 Kid... you can't even define scientist.
Then explain to the world why this clown is not competitive on ANY race circuit in the world. All ears..
@@Failure_Is_An_Option I am a scientist..... I have expensive pieces of paper on my wall. You obviously don't. 🙄
@@anthonylanglois8267 And yet you still can not define it... And now you can't explain why you are here. So what we have is a liar.
“Who appears to be leg jumping Anthony“😂😂😂😂
It painted a scary picture in my mind 😱😱☠☠🤡🤡
"it's THEIR head that's a limiting factor" and "bro science" 😂😂😂😂 I needed that laugh
Definitely not over priced, the research done for all the products Banks makes they are actually underpriced, cost of production and payroll are enormous. Keep up the great work!
I Absolutely Love Seeing Gale Banks, Schooling Fool’s!!!
Please do more videos like this, dyno comparisons would also be interesting to watch.
dyno comparison would be nice.
I’ve been asking for a dyno since the I bought my truck in 22 to make an educated decision. Quit blowing smoke gale and put it on the dyno.
@TheDfrancis37 Don't mess with the bull, or you will get the horns.
@@TheElderOne2003 hopefully so and we can finally get the deringer so I can start playing r chasing stuff.
@@TheDfrancis37He won’t do a dyno because he’s a fraud
Hello Mr Banks, Tino here from Zimbabwe but currently staying in South Africa ... Thank you so much for all the lessons , I have gained way more knowledge just from watching your videos and I just wanted to tell you that you're great teacher, mechanic, engineer, technician and I pay 1000% attention to your teachings.
I wish to meet you one day and learn first hand and trust me this is on my bucket list for sure, thank you so much and stay blessed 🙏
This guy has learned more and done more in and for the industry about diesels, all types of engine motors, boats, jet boats, bulletproofing, upgrades, turbos, everything about speed and power. He know more than you and 100% of humans alive on earth. Gale, you are a living legend, a national treasure. we are so lucky you give us your time and knowledge. Thank you sir
He forgot more ... Than most people know... 😂
I love all the gale banks videos, so informative and the way the facts are shown is so easy to understand. Hey Gale let’s work on the 3.0 duramax next lol.
You can't beat air density and air speed when it comes to any engine. I learned a lot from these videos. Tx and keep ut up👍
I can’t believe this day and age anyone would question anything that says Banks on it!!💪💪
I feel like flying over the atlantic just to give Gale a bear hug of appreciation for outstanding public service!
The only density problem here is some of the viewership. I don’t own a diesel but I watch to learn. Love these educational videos. Thank you Gale Banks and Team.
What an absolute legend. I don't even have a truck but love watching Gale school these clowns
I tearfully had to sell my diesel. Now, I just want to buy another one so I can install the Monster Ram on it. Great work as always coming out of Banks.
I was a diesel tech for years, & a truck driver now. I love the way this man teaches !
I learn so much from these videos.
Just a savage and a legend calling all them all out. Never doubt Banks, figure people would have learned this already.
I can’t thank you enough for all of your knowledge, I’m always happy to install Banks products. Not only do I know it’s going to be quality but the actual thought and knowledge gone into the making of the product is something I will always support and appreciate!
Has this been posted before... I remember something like this from a few years ago..
Gale and crew, you are LEGENDS!!!
Great video! Its amazing to what length you have thoroughly checked every aspect out!
Gale, you’re my hero. I hope you’re the first man to live to 200+.
I love listening to Gale. I’ve got an associates degree in automotive technology and before as well as after school I’ve always read what I could to learn anything especially performance oriented. I’m 46 had tons of hands on etc and still I have to rewind sometimes a few times to absorb what Gale says. Once he says it it seems so obvious. He is a good teacher. Hell of an engineer.
Thank you for watching our videos. Although we make them for everyone, we appreciate when fellow engineers and technicians watch and appreciate the content.
@@bankspower
You are responsible in a large part for my carrer choice, and I owe you, and a handfull of those like yourself a debit of gratitude.
You truly are a caliber of individual one encounters once in one's lifetime, if one is that fortunate.
Thank You, for sharing your knowlege
With respect..dont stop...please
..... Pete .....
Gale you have single handedly made me intensely interested in the science of air flow. Thank you for the videos, sir. You explain things VERY well.
Last week I bought my first diesel truck, 2020 GMC 2500 6.6. I bought it as Gale Banks has spent his life making things faster and his work with diesel is amazing. Thank you for your decades of work. I love learning about these engines.
All I know is that the Monster Ram, intercooler tubes, Monster Air, Monster Exhaust, and Pedal Monster w/iDash really woke up the beast in my 2012 Ram 3500 with 6.7L Cummins. With the stock setup, my truck struggled going up the Malad Pass in Idaho to Montana. After installing everything from Banks, my truck is a beast and does not struggle pulling my 19,000 lb toy hauler.
Waiting for the dyno comparison
This is my favorite type of debunk. You get mad at the idiots, but then you teach those idiots. Instead of just deriding the idiots for being idiots. I love it!
I really have to say yall are brilliant for making this channel.ive always told people banks is no joke, they have thier shit together, and here you are proving that even I wasn't aware of the magnitude of your efforts!! Good work!
"But i got curious, can i kick my own ass?". That´s the way of the engineering scientist. Cheers from Spain, Mr. Banks
The only manufacturer that proves his products perform. Period.
I love your content!! You are absolutely my favorite you tube channel!!! Keep up the good work and keep calling it like it is!
I just wanted to say Thank You for the work in coming up with your intake design. I had one installed on my 2017 Ram specifically to eliminate the stock grid heater failure point that will trash my $30,000.00 (installed) 6.7 Cummins. I retired from manufacturing company ownership and know R&D is a significant expense. You spent the money and came up with a top shelf design that solves multiple issues. Thank you again.Side note: the sticker that came with the unit looks dang fine on my Stanley lunch bucket too.
Gale and Team, THANK YOU for another extremely insightful video that must have taken hours and hours for research and editing for a killer production! I sincerely appreciate the time and engineering that goes into your products!
I must say though, I’d love to see the GDP (Glacier Diesel Power) horn tested, along with their High-Flow grid heater and plate. You have to give them credit for tapping into this issue YEARS AGO with the factory grid heater restriction and killer nut solution. And yes, I’m aware of the “difference” between it and the ones that you tested in this video. Just curious to see the numbers with us old 6.7 Cummins guys, PLEASE 😬
Thank you for the compliments! We intend to test the Glacier unit.
No dyno test stock vs your still.... Until i see a dyno test its just a piece of bling that has some useful ports.
Since you have a dyno I call your bluff or you would be showing us the results.
Ol Gail knows you're on to something here...😮😅
@@gadsdenconsulting7126 All that talk and still no Dyno after all these years. He is mad people talk smack and yet pulls the worst examples to debunk. I just want to see a dyno vid of a stock horn vs his with nothing else changed. I assume a build like mine with his vs a stock one there should be a difference. I have been hated on for owning his air horn for all these years. Either way I have come to terms with it likely does nothing. However the the treaded ports are useful.
@@ChannelZeroOne You bring up 100% valid points. He has a dyno, but he pontificates on points that could be backed up with real numbers. But if you ask for those numbers, his fan bois get all riled up like you've insulted the Messiah Himself 😆 🤣
Love how blunt Gale is. Straight to the point and easy to understand.
Installed Banks 4" Ram Air Horn way before I had the head replaced to D&J Precision Stage 1 and loved the boost then and really love it now!
Gale great video. Would be great to see a professional independent testing facility do these same tests. I still believe the Banks system will prevail, but I think testing our own products can be a bit problematic in a purely scientific sense. Greatest of respect to you Mr Banks although testing with an independent testing facility will only add to the proof in your research, development and final products against the competition. Cheers Mr Banks
I have always said that if you want quality and don’t mind the price Banks is the way to go. The amount of R&D they put into every part is second to non. I was pretty hard on the old Banks system for the 6.2 (non wastegate and really poor intake and plenum on top of the manifold) but banks has continued to evolve and improve the design. I don’t think they are ever done testing and improving products.
No doubt. We've all known you for decades, and you always have said that. Me? I've always been Michael Jordan.
13:42 "Better than nothing at all... Nothing at all... Nothing at all..."
"Stupid sexy Monster Ram!"
I have been watching Gale Banks for years and
The monster ram was one of the first mods I did on my 2017 Ram after I had seen the possibility of the grid heater bolt
This dude claps cheeks like nobody else. He's a national treasure.
But we still want to see dyno.
I just installed the cold air intake/big ass filter in my 2024 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. Super impressed. First off the fact that they provide a seal/oring for the emissions sensor when removing from stock box and putting on Banks tube is just plain awesome. At 56 years old this isn't my first rodeo. Ive built many cars and trucks in my life. When I saw a 8,000 mile o-ring broken when I removed from stock air box and saw Banks had one in my parts kit I knew I just became a life long customer. Some may say.. whatever and what's the big deal.?? Well others don't ever do that. They don't think ahead and provide you with everything you need. Second major impression was when putting the sensors back in the Banks tube from the stock box they only fit one way properly so you don't have to guess. Point is this is proof they clearly know what you're going to be dealing with when you do the install in your garage at home. Thanks Banks! I'll be ordering many more goodies from you guys for my 6.7!
Glad to hear you read all the comments, Gale. I remember you from my teens in LA. Seems you have modern Cummins down. Great vid.
I don't see much from you in recent years for 7.3 PSD and (gasp!) IDI. We still run many thousands down here in Texas. I myself have 7 at the ranch. Don't forget us. I bet the 12v Cummins guys feel neglected too. That's another Texas keeper.
Well damn Gail, you've done it again! The first half of the video explains boost/density/CFM flawlessly, and I will be showing it to friends who don't understand the complexities with how boost works (not always as simple as "boost = happiness") but then there's your intake kit, for the boost horn to flow a lower restriction than nothing at all, that's one heck of an accomplishment! And honestly, anyone who loves their engine would probably be nuts not to invest in the kit given the reliability improvements as that stock charge heater as mentioned is a doozy for a start, but then you've got lower turbine speeds leading to increased turbocharger life, and improving the fuel efficiency is likely to help with the lifespan of emissions control hardware 👍
Installed one on our 3500 HO a few months ago, just installed one on our 5500 Cab Chassis yesterday. Both units had heater grid bolts still tight and in tack but wasn’t about to gamble. Will find out over the next few weeks if it shows any improvement with both trucks being completely stock
you will know 1 improvement of knowing the engine won't be eating any grid heater bolts.
@@arbiter1 the piece of mind is worth every penny. The chassis cab has a better throttle response now, it always had a big throttle delay in the pedal and now it comes alive quicker.
You could probably convince some of these guys to drill holes in their charge coolers to improve surface area for the ambient air to pass across it 😂
Gale, you are a SMART man. I love the fact that you started messing around with cummins . So far, my favorite and most effective performance items installed are BANKS products,on our all ram trucks, we are outpulling some semis with your products, Not only it does not look cheap, but it really works . Gale, Thank you
Absolutely fantastic presentation showing that you guys went the extra mile when designing these products!
No different then the argument of “the gun can outshoot you anyway so buying a better one won’t help”, yet somehow it still helps every time.
1st time i shot a cz75 i put 2 rounds through the same hole @10m. I thought i missed with the second shot, changed point of aim about an inch low, bam new hole. So much easier than with a glock
@@RedmistAUAnd I bet everybody clapped
@RedmistAU two bullets through the exact same hole is only a good thing in target shooting. You want separation of rounds into a live target to cause massive wound channels.
In Gale we trust. There’s a reason he’s still in the industry (besides still being alive).
More Gale please! These teaching episodes are some of the best
This monster ram is awesome, you clearly have alot of experience and knowledge, i learned alot from watching this.
I'm curious as to why the OEM's aren't engineering their intake the same way. If engine efficiency is improved this gives an improvement to emissions and fuel economy and most importantly it IS emissions compliant in all U.S. states why isn't this a factory default. Maybe the OEM's need to hire these guys for consulting work.
We have a long history of consulting for OEs such as BMW, Volvo, GM, as well as defense. In fact, there are two defense engines in our dyno cells at the moment.
All very interesting, but let's see a dyno run of a bone stock truck before and after this install. What is the actual gain on the truck? I don't drive a flow bench.
Not every performance modification requires a dyno run to show improvements. For example, you can't show throttle response on a dyno graph.
@@bankspower You have been avoiding the dyno since its release...
@@bankspower Why can't you show throttle response in a dyno graph? Seems like it would be very doable
@@AlexRib A dyno graph shows the power and torque increase (or decrease) over an RPM range, not over time. Dyno runs are often done in anywhere from 4 to 20 seconds depending on the amount of load applied, but that time is not shown on the graph. We even do step testing which involves holding each RPM increment until everything stabilizes before taking that reading. This ensures the most accurate measurement, but says nothing about the time taken.
@@bankspower Don't dynos record time within the run? That seems like something a relatively modern dynomometer could do. If you were to fix a RPM, you could plot power or torque / time. I'm sure it would give pretty interesting results that many people would be interested in. I don't see why you can't extract throttle response with the data from a dyno. Heck, if the dyno software doesn't let you do that, you could very easily use external (to the dyno) factors to start/stop a timer, like tps for example.
I love watching masters of their craft geek out over the details that make excellence!
One of those guys you wanna just sit and have a few beers with. More of this Gale, we need more Speed School episodes 🙏🏾
I just love it when the marketing includes a portion to see if you can kick your own ass! ❤
I just don't think with this cold hard data, that anyone has a legit argument. It's just rock solid data. The real world performance may be trivial without a tune or other parts but it all contributes to efficiency.
I have no idea what this guy is talking about... but just know i feel smarter pretending i do n listening 😅
Thanks Professor! Looking forward to the next one.
The first upgrade I did to my 6.7 was the monster ram at 100,000 mi. Amazing the difference it makes. 2017 ram 2500. Thanks Gale.
Dyno a stock truck then remove the stock horn and put a Banks horn on and show us the hp gain. If there is no gain we will save our money. No need for all the animosity.
He likely has. We must have different definitions of animosity. That was a call-out.
@@shenaniganswhatsoever363 If he likely has that proves there isn’t any hp gain, just wasted money.
@@steveo9705 unsure what to make of that, but I don't think that proves anything. Kindly ask for some numbers from banks themselves. And if that's not enough, find some unbiased dyno results.
@@shenaniganswhatsoever363 Kindly think about this… I have dyno’d several different intake horns and seen no change.
@@steveo9705 and everything else was restriction free? I honestly don't believe you, but maybe. If your so big into engine tuning and work, im surprised your rambling on youtube and not searching out actual answers, which you seem to have already? Maybe just quit talking to me? It's not gonna do you any good? Am I gonna trust a keyboard warrior, or banks? Where is the paperwork and videos showing how talented you are?
This "test" was unfortunately a swing and miss as it did not test what the comments you read where saying (No change with stock head). You need to test the flow with a head attached to address the comments. No one ever said the GB horn wasn't an improvement over stock. The comments you read at the start all said with the stock head (fully stock not ported or high flow valve seat profile) attached there is not a significant change in flow in to the cylinder (with anyone's intake). Re run the test with a stock head bolted up to the intake, open up correct intake valves (not an empty head with all of them open) to simulate the the companion cylinder when running, heater delete on all of them to test apples to apple. That is the restriction the commenters are taking about. Very simplified example of the commenters, For example, put a 12" culvert flowing into a garden hose, it will flow the same as a 15" culvert connected to that same garden hose. You have to have the restriction (Cummins head) in place to really see the actual flow.
Yall are funny going at Gale and not even understanding what he clearly explained 🤦♂️
@@brokeboyracing4815 you're one of the ones that stick to the bigger/winning team
I’d rate to find people as smart, funny, and ability to make learning fun. Thank god for gale banks and we all hope you live forever
I love the way you explain things, even I can understand them!
Anthony and Ben must live in Alabama
No dyno, no care
Hi Gale and all at Banks.
Finally the video I've waiting for months about the flow bench.
No wonder it was mentioned it would shock folks.
Great stuff thanks so much for setting the record straight and your detailed testing - Mike
I've been reading an learning about Banks. You have some pretty amazing engines that he's built. It's not every day somebody builds performance engines for the military. I found his engine theories and techniques to be un unrivaled. I just turned around with small stuff my daily drivers what is insights in the series and his proofs are impeccable and I've used them to produce amazing amounts of power out of otherwise stock engines.
It always amazes me how much horsepower people leave sitting on the table just waiting to be used and they don't even notice it..
Thank you , always learning something from you . Mr. Banks
Here's what happens when you have good leadership, solid engineering driven by simple basic principles, and a good team with CFD knowledge and a capable manufacturing staff! Who knew?! Great work!
Hey Banks Team! I've had several people ask where to get the Chevy 3500 Banks model. It's kind fun. One problem up here in the Spokane area is when it's cold and snowy I have to run on the stock level otherwise my wheels are Truning at every Stop sign or light and I can't get a grip until I let of my peddle Monster. Thanks for a great ride! 😊
Respect for this man! I have the Banks horn on my 2017 Cummins and it woke it up, not te same truck. The quality of his product is really good. Next I want to order the air box.
I've never heard anyone dispute that the intake elbow is a restriction to airflow. What I would like Banks to demonstrate is a cold weather startup test with the puny duramax coil heater that's supposed to replace the factory element. I'm sure it's fine on a 60 degree morning in SoCal, but what about a truck that's parked in -30? No block heater to help. I know my truck will start under those conditions with the factory grid heater. Duramaxes have glow plugs for cold start assist; the little intake heater is for emissions purposes.
Or if the elbow makes any difference under stock hardware conditions. People pushing excess of 700hp with a modified vgt only. I don't think anyone is arguing if it makes a difference in flow, but does it matter in terms of power/egt for the lack of grid heater. I've yet to see banks have tests of power under the same tuning and subsequent egts.
@@allenlin6169 curiously absent given the fact they have a chassis dyno to prove it makes more power, and the data collection to illustrate the difference in turbocharger load if it does reduce compressor backpressure. Then he talks like he's the only person to ever study thermodynamics. It's tiring. He should strap a truck down and show the public the performance difference if he wants to settle it.
Just purchased it and will be installing it this Sunday!
Thank You Gale once again helping people have better longer running engines.
Thank you. For that is holy thank you! This is bookmarked in time stamped. Whenever anybody says turbos are better because they're free power or turbos don't need horsepower or Rob horsepower to make power I'm going to show them this. Mr Banks literally just said it takes about 50 horsepower to make boost using exhaust gas and that horsepower is taken from the crankshaft during the power stroke. If you were to take the same centrifugal supercharger meaning it does the same PSI at the same CFM it would also take 50 horsepower from the engine just via a belt. I love you Gail!
Gale laying down straight facts! I love learning this stuff!
Banks is the man!!! You cannot beat Experience, Wisdom, and Knowledge.
Great posting, great science. We are more toward the gas and alcohol development head and engine development side of racing,but I loved this very scientific common sense total system study of airflow,volume and weight. We have very close testing procedures that take entire system flow and fuel delivery from the flow bench to the dynamometer to winning at the speedway. Great class room example of proper development. The internet has lots of information, I am glad you showed how the numbers and the science is the reality of good development.
Gale has been hopping up diesels longer than most of the comments section experts have been alive. Most of that garbage info comes from one post they read on cumminsforum or tdr. Thank you for the video ! Very informative
Thank you Mr. Banks Mechanic professor for given the truth to everyone
I love the way the Bank's Monster Ram air when combined with the Bank's boost pipes and cold air intake opened up my 6.7 on my 2023 Ram 2500 Rebel. I couldn't be happier with the way the motor runs and breathes and in turn, I've even noticed a little increase in mileage per the truck's computer. Bank's has done their homework and the science is there!
Love the breakdown. Wish you guys would put this dedication into finishing the 6.7 Cummins Derringer so people can open up the potential of your hard parts legally...
I kinda of remember a S10 set a speed record, they filled the box with ice and ran the intake though that ice. Cool video!
I love how you just totally roast the commenters for being confidently wrong 😂😂😂
Thank you for explaining that so thoroughly, it's best not to reply to some people that just don't get it.
I knew you guys were better than the competition. But holy smokes you blow them out of the water!! And with the real numbers that really mean power. Makes this mechanic happy.