SMD Soldering for Beginners: Commodore 64 Cartridge Build

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
  • The aim of this beginners video is to help allay your fears of soldering tiny SMD parts; I was always a bit scared of SMT soldering so let's face those fears together and learn how to use a hot air rework station whilst making this cool C64 Ghostbusters cart! Disclaimer: I'm not a pro! Thanks to PCBWay.com - great PCBs from $5! Want double the ЯR content and a backstage experience? 👾 Check out Retro Recipes PowerUp! 🚀 / perifractic 📼 Bonus videos, early access to main vids, jam to ЯR music, see your name in lights & more! ✨ By supporting ЯR you help us keep the channel & nostalgia alive 🙌
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    2:08 Required Tools
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Komentáře • 237

  • @RetroRecipes
    @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +15

    Thanks for watching - these are just beginner techniques I wanted to try after watching some tutorials, but as ever, tastes & techniques differ and this won't be everyone's preferred method :) And thanks for watching on the channel's 6th birthday! 🎂 Want double the ЯR content and a backstage experience? 👾 Check out Retro Recipes PowerUp! 🚀 patreon.com/perifractic 📼 Dive into bonus videos, get an early start on main vids, jam out to ЯR music, see your name in lights & more! ✨ By supporting the heart and soul of ЯR you help us keep the channel & nostalgia alive 🙌

    • @seedmoreuser
      @seedmoreuser Před 4 měsíci +2

      That thumbnail. Lol.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      Good eye! @@seedmoreuser

    • @stevejennings3960
      @stevejennings3960 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Well as you know - SMD stands for Soldering Masterly Done!!! Does it?

    • @danboid
      @danboid Před 3 měsíci +1

      Great video! I have added a link to this video on the main page of the Uzebox wiki. These skills help when soldering the Uzebox SD card socket.
      Thanks RR!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@danboid Thanks so much for sharing the vid!

  • @Holammer
    @Holammer Před 4 měsíci +7

    Video thumbnail? **Chef's kiss**
    Anyone not getting the joke, it's based on an old stock photo with a women holding a soldering iron in a hilarious way.

  • @lavre8045
    @lavre8045 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Learning with Perry is like doing it yourself: This is (almost) the best way of being able to do it, without having any of the tools or wondering about the possible mistakes happening. By you leaving the mistakes in, it not only teaches us about the type of mistakes that (can) happen, but also that they are there. Thanks for shearing.

  • @skyrocketautomotive670
    @skyrocketautomotive670 Před 4 měsíci +23

    I've always observed SMD from at least 15 feet away while clutching a crucifix, but this video was a huge eye opener! Watching that solder paste turn into solder and coat the pads was absolutely fascinating, I had no idea that's how it worked!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +3

      So glad it helped!

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I don't know where that fear comes from... SMD is easier to solder than through hole. Don't have to worry about multilayer boards and everything you do is clearly visible instead of some hole you have no eyes on. No need to faff about with that paste and hot air, just soldering the pads with a regular iron and wire works way better most of the time.

    • @skyrocketautomotive670
      @skyrocketautomotive670 Před 4 měsíci

      @@benbaselet2026 because it seemed fiddly and was something I didn't have experience with and so, in the interest of not making a bad situation worse I'd avoided it.
      Now I'm enlightened as to the beautiful simplicity of it I'll definitely be kitting up and having a practise should I ever need this in my wheelhouse!

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@skyrocketautomotive670 Absolutely worth learning a few skills. Just solder the stuff together, it's not hard as long as you are not intimidated by a million videos online telling you how unbelievably hard it is when it is not :-)

    • @skyrocketautomotive670
      @skyrocketautomotive670 Před 4 měsíci

      @@benbaselet2026 thanks for the encouragement! I've done a lot of through hole stuff but this seemed like black magic to me until this very video!!

  • @Ron_Rhodes
    @Ron_Rhodes Před 4 měsíci +3

    I can't remember how many times I crossed the beams and the ghost got away. But that digitized laugh will haunt me forever.

  • @benjaminrich9396
    @benjaminrich9396 Před 4 měsíci +8

    There's so much to love here, but as a small thing: I love how for the cover pic of the video Perry has put his bearded face onto that famous pic of the woman holding the would-be hot part of the soldering iron (which laughably showcased it as a fake quota-chasing pic, and not real). Brilliant. That made me laugh out loud.
    😂

  • @einherrjar
    @einherrjar Před 4 měsíci +3

    i love the stock foto in the thumbnail, i have an entire collection of those, with folks holding the iron at the hot end. 😂

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +2

      What were they thinking? It's called an iron. That's metal. 🤯

  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs Před 4 měsíci +3

    Thanks for the tutorial, I'm the World's worst solderer so need all the help I can get. PS - bonus points for sticking to your roots and pronouncing the L in solder!

  • @larsegholmfischmann6594
    @larsegholmfischmann6594 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I haven't soldered anything for more than 30 years but I can still remember the cozy, satisfying smell of pine resin and coffee on my internship desk back in the 90s :)

  • @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
    @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks Před 4 měsíci +2

    Mega electronic Retro Recipe Perifractic! Man flu didn't get you down, and this video reminded me of early RR videos.
    A Retro Retro Recipe in fact.

  • @insoft_uk
    @insoft_uk Před 4 měsíci +1

    🤣 that stock photo of that guy soldering on the thumbnail, holding the soldering ion hot end is hilarious 🤣

  • @nsjohnston
    @nsjohnston Před 4 měsíci +7

    if you flux your wick it works much better. Also the flux cleaning the surface happens under heat, I believe it becomes corrosive at high temps during soldering and clean/etch the surface to help make a good junction.

  • @grantrennie
    @grantrennie Před 4 měsíci +2

    Haha I like the thumbnail, having a laugh at the famous woman holding a soldering iron the wrong way picture that has been around the internet for years

  • @Zarf42
    @Zarf42 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Wow! Look at those microscope shots! The one with the flux dissolving through is really cool!

  • @gamingtherapy7587
    @gamingtherapy7587 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nice to a video where you are learning some new tricks and we can learn along with you . 👏

  • @stephanepiquemal8297
    @stephanepiquemal8297 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Excellent! I'm kind of new to the electronic world but I made my first successful repair last month.
    Also, thanks for sharing your list of electronic gears, that will be very useful.

  • @Robbnlinzi
    @Robbnlinzi Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wowie! I’ve seen this stuff on CZcams and wondered what voodoo it was. You’ve uncovered a whole new world for me! 🎉

  • @DJEonT1
    @DJEonT1 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I used to repair PCB's in the late 90s / early 00's for an access control company. The PCB's usually had a mix of through hole and surface mount components. If you don't have a rework station, I recommend surface mount solder. Its just like regular solder but much thinner. It is much easier to use when fitting surface mount components.
    It is very difficult to remove sm components without a rework station though.
    20 years later, I still tinker with designing and building PCB's (mostly for home automation), but my eyes do need magnification now - especially with placing surface mount components.
    I thoroughly enjoyed this video, and as you can see - its taken me back to my younger self. Top job Peri 😃

  • @precisionxt
    @precisionxt Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love the thumbnail, on-point reproduction 🤣

  • @nsjohnston
    @nsjohnston Před 4 měsíci +10

    Solder paste is best used with screen print templates(and ovens). Surface mount is easier with an iron.

    • @Jasonsadventures
      @Jasonsadventures Před 4 měsíci

      The bigger the blade tip the better too. Ironic but true

  • @merman1974
    @merman1974 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very interesting video. And lovely to learn that bit of trivia about the Ghostbusters voice.

  • @michaelcarey
    @michaelcarey Před 4 měsíci +2

    Excellent video! I remember my first dive into SMD, seemed a lifetime ago. Australian electronics magazine "Talking Electronics" designed a series of FM bugs, wireless microphones. In the late 80s they designed one using surface mount components. All I had was a 20W soldering iron and a steady hand... and it worked! These days I have hot air rework station and a head worn magnifier. A binocular microscope was on my wish list, but these digital microscopes seem to work very well!

  • @TzOk
    @TzOk Před 4 měsíci +7

    You really shouldn't use extra flux with a soldering paste. Applying the right amount would be easier because it would stick to the PCB. Oh, and most importantly, apply the paste, put an IC onto it, and only then start to heat it up. Do not melt the paste before placing an IC.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +3

      12:46

    • @danlake7970
      @danlake7970 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@RetroRecipesNo need to tin the pads first though. From fresh bare PCB pads, add paste, add the chip, reflow with air or hot plate, done.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@danlake7970 Correct, at 12:46 that was left over from a previous try, but was not intended to be tinning of the pads before applying paste :)

  • @NocturnalMissSo
    @NocturnalMissSo Před 4 měsíci +1

    Excellent work as always, sir. Have a good weekend with the fam.

  • @rhythmandblues9302
    @rhythmandblues9302 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for sharing this. I’ve only had the nerve to practice on broken hardware, until now.

  • @flashchrome
    @flashchrome Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ok. I confess. A smirk was apparent on my face 0:48

  • @wjadams2
    @wjadams2 Před 4 měsíci +3

    This is so great. Learning along videos are always fantastic. Thank you for doing this!

  • @billfusionenterprise
    @billfusionenterprise Před 4 měsíci +1

    FYI; a cheap sub for the microscope for doing not so fine work is big lens magnify light lens. I used one for years even on some SMT work. It makes a easy to see image PLUS blocks smoke from flux going in your face

  • @magicknight8412
    @magicknight8412 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks for showing how relatively simple it is to do surface mount stuff! Praise be for surface tension :)

  • @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
    @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P Před 4 měsíci +1

    Happy 6th Birthday Channel Retro Recipes I'm still recovering from a bad cold I had over christmas.

  • @csmyder
    @csmyder Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for mentioning both ingestion and inhalation hazards for lead exposure. Washing your hands and cleaning your nails to avoid ingesting (swallowing) lead is very important. But the inhalation (breathing in) hazard is just as important to avoid, maybe even more so and not as obvious to many beginners. Great job!

  • @kingkoolkata
    @kingkoolkata Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Thumbnail killed it 🤣

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul Před 4 měsíci +1

    I'm not even very good at soldering wires to large contacts. Then again, I don't have any fancy tools, just a couple cheap pencil soldering irons.
    I'm always afraid of applying heat for too long to the leg of any component. Many years ago, I read an article about how to build a cheap kickstart switcher for the Amiga. It involved placing one chip on top of the other and soldering all but one of the legs together. Those legs were bent out, soldered to the poles of a SPDT switch, and then the wire from the switch went into the free hole in the Kickstart socket. I decided to try it, but I used a socket and soldered it to my old 1.2 Kickstart chip that I wasn't using any more. When done, I plugged my 2.0 chip into the new socket, put the chip/socket into the motherboard socket, inserted the wire from the switch and powered it on. The 2.0 chip worked fine, but when I flipped the switch to select the 1.2 chip (power off of course), it didn't work.
    The only thing I did to the 1.2 chip was solder the socket legs to it and bend out one pin. If I had done it wrong the 2.0 chip wouldn't have worked. The only conclusion I can come to is that I somehow fried the 1.2 chip by leaving the iron on some of the legs too long. Since then I always worry that I'm going to damage something with too much heat.

  • @RealActorRob
    @RealActorRob Před 4 měsíci +1

    I've also seen people wipe a chisel tip wipe solder across the leads/pads since the solder flows to the work. Kind of an art, tho.

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames Před 4 měsíci +1

    Good video, helping to demystify SMD soldering.

  • @carychiasson9834
    @carychiasson9834 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Best joke ever from Perifractic. More stable now. I know if I get a horse I am going to name it mayo-neighs

  • @patrickfurlong4276
    @patrickfurlong4276 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Another great video thanks! Will try SMD soldering sometime..

  • @more.power.
    @more.power. Před 4 měsíci +1

    You are a champion Perifractic thank you for the lesson. And a big hello hug to Ladyfractic and babyfractic. Babyfractic is surrounded in love an retro central.

  • @sergiuszszczepankiewicz2017
    @sergiuszszczepankiewicz2017 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dude! I have EXACTLY the same setup of tools for soldering. FX-951 + 959D + brilliant Hakko solder sucker!

  • @jeffflowers5489
    @jeffflowers5489 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I designed a PCB with a company before I heard about PCBWaaaaay. It came with a soldering template that helps with applying paste. I made a board with 10x10 SMT blinking LEDs and a resistor for each. (200 parts, 400 solder points) Came out great. I can share an image if you're interested.

  • @djm9937
    @djm9937 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Well, you made that look easy :) great job!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +1

      6 days of shooting and another 2 weeks of editing!!
      (Kidding.)

  • @OlivierSimpleLife
    @OlivierSimpleLife Před 4 měsíci +3

    really nice video as it's very difficult to find videos where someone is just beginning to experiment with SMD soldering :)

  • @darthnagus5457
    @darthnagus5457 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very satisfying to watch

  • @eskey691
    @eskey691 Před 4 měsíci +1

    As always cracking video i it got a big like after the first joke. man that was a nice bit of kit you had i may have to get some of that myself as my solder skill are not what they use to be. You guys have an amazing weekend and take care, keep up the amazing work and roll on the next one 🙂🙂

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      Glad you liked the vid and the kit! Have a good one!

  • @Evilslayer73
    @Evilslayer73 Před 4 měsíci +2

    i just begun smd soldering since 3 months and its easier than everybody thinks! with a cheap hot air station from amazon and good flux im able to achieve very good soldering i love this :)

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hot air is a must for BGA stuff but I just almost always do the regular visible pin ones with a normal iron. Much easier than this hot air and paste stuff.

    • @Evilslayer73
      @Evilslayer73 Před 4 měsíci

      @@benbaselet2026 Yes you can achieve it with a good soldering iron like a T-12 and a digital microscope if you have bad eyes like me :)

  • @garyl5128
    @garyl5128 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Another great video! One other thing I use my hot air station for is for hot glue - can make hot glue more versatile when not relying on just the gun application.

  • @OTGav
    @OTGav Před 4 měsíci

    Great timing, picked up a soldering iron for 1st time in.....a while.....(there may have been C64's on sale back the ) this weekend.
    Time for new toys!

  • @TheSulross
    @TheSulross Před 4 měsíci +1

    Give me that old time through-hole-parts PCBs - as God intended PCBs to be

  • @pierremitham2964
    @pierremitham2964 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very cool, didn't know you could get "Ghost busters" in cartridge format! I had it on disk

  • @Lion_McLionhead
    @Lion_McLionhead Před 4 měsíci +1

    Had a few projects succeed with through hole parts for retro appeal, but most ended up rebuilt with SMD parts. Sometimes you just need surface mount.

  • @itsmephil2255
    @itsmephil2255 Před 4 měsíci +2

    That was sooo satisfying to watch
    Good soldering Peri (not Sodder)😂😂😂😂

  • @ToumalRakesh
    @ToumalRakesh Před 4 měsíci +6

    Heya! I would REALLY recommend you go for a different hot air station. For only a little bit more you can get an Atten for example which has just WAY more power and better heat control. Quick is another alternative, but they have gotten too pricy because they got popular on youtube.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Thanks for the feedback. This one had thousands of great reviews. Could all be fake of course! Can you clarify by what you mean when you say "more power"? This one had that ability, but when I turned up the "power" (meaning heat and/or fan speed I imagine), it became too hot. Isn't too much power a bad thing? I'd appreciate clarification as I'm always open to trying a better way, but just don't quite understand the benefit you're outlining. Cheers.

  • @bid9993
    @bid9993 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just stumbled across your channel, you have a new sub, Great work.

  • @carloscatano1750
    @carloscatano1750 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Fantastic! Thank you!

  • @Typical.Anomaly
    @Typical.Anomaly Před 4 měsíci +1

    I, too, have always been "scared" of SMT to the point that this is the first glimpse of it I've seen!
    I'm not a professional; not even that much of a tinker. I have built a few guitar pedal circuits.
    I did grow up in a TV repair shop my Dad owned in the 1980s though.
    He did lots of great stuff. One thing was a scratch built (and designed) computer he used to interface the security cameras at Sears when he worked there later. I was about 12 when he built it, but iirc he used either an 8048 cpu or an 80748 cpu/rom combo.
    I remember some stuff lol I stopped paying attention once I found girls and guitars tho.
    I'm not afraid of SMT now either! Maybe someday... and that heat gun could have many applications! One of which I won't directly mention, but I do live in a legal state 😉😉

  • @homagegames7181
    @homagegames7181 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for wearing that shirt in this video. Love it. Just found your channel. Great stuff!

  • @jmtx.
    @jmtx. Před 4 měsíci +1

    For larger pads, a fine tipped soldering iron with fine solder and flux is much simpler than using air.

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 Před 4 měsíci

    Great Video I really enjoy that microscope I got mine for blackfriday deal !

  • @istvanbally2817
    @istvanbally2817 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Impressive! I remember trying my hands at soldering when I was 16 or 17. Never used flux. No wonder the result was a horrible mess.

  • @billfusionenterprise
    @billfusionenterprise Před 4 měsíci +1

    FYI: the lead free solder movement was to solve the problem of lead in trash, like all circuit boards get proper recycling. The issue with lead free is higher temps to get it too melt. Thus why hobbiest will use lead solder because of cheap solder irons and little mass produced boards

  • @jenselstner5527
    @jenselstner5527 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The flux is not only to remove oxidation while soldering, it is also to improve the flow of the heated solder. ... you welcome. ;o)

  • @joshuamacdonald4913
    @joshuamacdonald4913 Před 4 měsíci +1

    In school we were taught to solder smt with fine solder and an iron. I really want to try hot air.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      You can definitely do either way - it's down to individual preferences ultimately. I enjoyed this way!

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi5133 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Not only is leaded solder uch better to work with and looking better- it also makes for a much better lifespan of your solder points, because it's way more flexible than the unleaded solder. This is also the most frequent reason why modern graphics card die so fast. Unleaded solder should ever have become a thing ..

  • @steve.b.23
    @steve.b.23 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Excellent work, sir!
    As someone who's stared at thousands of PCBs through numerous magnification devices over the years, first as an assembler, latterly as an IPC-A-610 level inspector, I didn't see a single problem with any of the joints you soldered in this video.
    Do you want a job? 😆

  • @Lost_n_Found_1
    @Lost_n_Found_1 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I'm a simple man. I see a Ghostbusters logo, I click. Immediately. 🚫👻

  • @paszTube
    @paszTube Před 3 měsíci

    This video dropped at the right time for me as I just started to get comfortable and OK at through hole soldering and thinking about getting into SMD!
    I found that getting good at soldering components in isn’t that difficult to get the hang of… It’s desoldering, removing solder and components I found much harder to get better at! Soldering in components: I get nice volcanos. Desoldering: l get something that looks like the surface of the moon :(. Maybe it’s just me.

  • @vhfgamer
    @vhfgamer Před 4 měsíci +1

    Tech tip. Put flux on your desoldering braid to make it work better.

  • @plan7a
    @plan7a Před 4 měsíci +1

    Precision Check Bursts? Phantom Collection Backups? Popular Computing Bookers? Just a few PCB meanings for this one? LOL.

  • @Celcius1
    @Celcius1 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I've got a series on SMT on my channel called Funway into SME where I go through with simple projects and soldering all different sort of devices

  • @HisVirusness
    @HisVirusness Před 4 měsíci +1

    A few years ago, despite always avoiding it when possible, I tried SMD soldering. It worked great... the first time.
    Every single time after that, rework was needed. But, those were great learning experiences. I am currently almost okay at SMT soldering.
    I'm glad you took the leap, Mr. Fractic. At some point, we all kinda have to, right?

  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet2026 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm glad you got it working! Soldering can cause pretty horrific looking situations at first but removing the stuff is usually not too hard, quite forgiving stuff really :-)
    Using paste and hot air has its uses but for a simple board like this you are way better off just soldering the whole thing with your regular iron and the thinnest solder wire you can find. Just tin one of the pads per chip, position the chip on the footprint, melt that one pad and adjust the chip to position so that it tacks into place. After that it's just a simple job of soldering the rest of the pads with your iron, no problems whatsoever and muuuch faster than trying to learn how to apply the paste. Especially without a stencil.

  • @retroandgaming
    @retroandgaming Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks, I have been scared of soldering smt but since I have all the equipment I should probably just test it out. Great small beginner project! Thanks for the tip. Just wonder what equip. I need to program these roms from my win11 pc

  • @blackIce504
    @blackIce504 Před 4 měsíci +1

    with solder paste especially to save on paste i would get some stencils they are normally thin sheets of steel with holes in them and since there are standards i would just get like an assortment pack to start.

  • @MaloneLionheart
    @MaloneLionheart Před 4 měsíci +1

    Making the SMT soldering and AI assisted video editing/manipulation accessible to everyone! Not being Cheeky. Glad to see you implementing the tools everyone is a little afraid of. Keep Pioneering.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks for the feedback. Which bit did you think was AI? 🤖

    • @matthewwright2598
      @matthewwright2598 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@RetroRecipes Your mouth in the shots where you are speaking to camera sometimes looks deepfaked to me??

    • @MaloneLionheart
      @MaloneLionheart Před 4 měsíci +1

      I only really noticed it in the beginning of the video when you were on camera and only when your mouth movements were being corrected for the reworked voiceover. I imagine over time this will be far less noticeable as the tools get better@@RetroRecipes Thanks again!

    • @matthewwright2598
      @matthewwright2598 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@RetroRecipes Plus the cheeky nod to Max Headroom 😂

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      @@matthewwright2598 Someone's paying attention! 🙌

  • @CasuallyPlayingWith
    @CasuallyPlayingWith Před 3 měsíci +1

    You did fantastic for your first time, really, take it from me, I used to work on components on an iPhone, this went so much easier for you on your first time than it did for me, the Hakko should have an iron tip that you should be able to buy that is for "Micro-soldering" so you don't really need the solder paste all too much - certainly not for BGA in this method, and you can use your Radio Shack solder for it 10:03 Very interesting indeed, didn't think that flux would bubble up that much "FLUX, the bigger the glob the better the job" - Louis Rossmann

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️

  • @raymitchell9736
    @raymitchell9736 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The solder mask is what makes it easy to solder SMDs, but I've had some PCBs cut on a machine without solder mask, or one that I've etched and it's a huge ugly solder blob mess! One other thing I should mention is that the continuity testing is no guarantee that there's a good solder joint... I like to reflow them and inspect them if there's only solder on the bottom and nothing flowing around and on top... over time the connection corrodes and then you have odd behavior or failure.

  • @gabor222
    @gabor222 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Soldering material containing lead not just looks better but it is less rigid so it is less likely to crack. This is the reason for it is not completely banned in the EU: in vehicle or health industry it results better reliability where a cracked solder can cause fatal problems. Flux not only cleans the surface and creates better bond but increases the ability of the solder to flow better into small spaces.

  • @BigFootpl
    @BigFootpl Před 4 měsíci

    You can try tining pads with soldering iron and regular solder, it goes waaay easier and faster. Then use hot air when the chip goes on the pcb.

  • @tirsek
    @tirsek Před 4 měsíci +2

    13:52 did you fix what looks like a tiny bridge between pins 5 and 6, or did it just happen to work with it in place?

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +1

      That's part of the PCB design and intended

  • @zaftra
    @zaftra Před měsícem

    Finally a good guide.

  • @crazyedo9979
    @crazyedo9979 Před 3 měsíci

    My recommendation is to use leaded rosin core solder wire instead of solder paste because of higher mechanical strenght. Also a variety of tools e.g. antistatic metal tweezers, some dentist instruments (used ones are cheaper 😁) soldering iron with at least 40 W and exchangeable tips for faster heat application. Some small metal pieces and metal foil for heat protection of other components. Above my workspace I mounted a kitchen extractor hood to get rid of the toxic fumes. For further information I recommend the YT channel "Northridge Fix". Better use some donor boards for removing and soldering as a training ground before going live.😁

  • @michwashington
    @michwashington Před 3 měsíci

    ❤❤❤❤ I miss this game so much and my commodore 64❤❤❤❤

  • @No1BRC
    @No1BRC Před 4 měsíci +5

    instead of an expensive electrical solder pump I have a mechanical soldersucker that heats up like an soldering iron. Very cheap and works just fine unless you need to desolder hundreds of legs daily.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      Yup, mentioned on screen and linked in description 👍🕹

    • @pvc988
      @pvc988 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I stumbled upon one of these couple of weeks ago. I have to say that they are awesome little tools. They are dirt cheap and get the job done.

  • @stephengeist3203
    @stephengeist3203 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video! Do you have an Amazon link for the flux pen you used?Link in description seems to be for flux paste in a syringe?

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Having edited the video and researched more I now recommend the paste over the pen :)

    • @stephengeist3203
      @stephengeist3203 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Make sense! Thanks again!

  • @sutorippuwebmaster8783
    @sutorippuwebmaster8783 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I sadly do not have a working Commodore to test the Ghostbusters cart. :( As I want to get back into soldering, are there other projects like this you can recommend?

  • @anakondase
    @anakondase Před 4 měsíci +1

    On the surface I'd say the influx might create a steady flow.

  • @WistrelChianti
    @WistrelChianti Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks!!

  • @sasha-fe2bl
    @sasha-fe2bl Před 4 měsíci +1

    i have a yihua soldering station they make some decent stuff at a budget imo

  • @ErrorMessageNotFound
    @ErrorMessageNotFound Před 4 měsíci +1

    People love to complain about soldering whenever they see it. You'll get lots of "never do this" or "always do this". When soldering the only thing that matters is does it work in the end ? Also, as with anything, more practice = more better.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      Oh you've read the other comments then 😅

  • @onesandzeros2u
    @onesandzeros2u Před 4 měsíci +2

    5:48 what is your wedding ring made of, I like the colour.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks. Actually these would you believe. We've replaced them 1-2 times each: www.saferingz.com

  • @arcadealchemist
    @arcadealchemist Před 4 měsíci +1

    i do love that Stock photo
    Reminds me of why we need male safe spaces.

  • @tYNS
    @tYNS Před 4 měsíci +2

    The flux is with you.

  • @robbruce2128
    @robbruce2128 Před 3 měsíci

    You looked steady enough to do those SMDs with just the soldering iron. It's not really any harder than with the SMD rework station when you tack a couple corner pins down first on one side, then you just wipe the spooled solder and iron across the pins on the opposite. Plenty of flux and a nice clean fine tip and you're good to go. I liked seeing the microscope view on the video, but when I'm actually driving, my vintage OptiVISOR is perfect for my increasingly lousy eyes + plus you get stereo vision for depth

  • @roberthayes6329
    @roberthayes6329 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Northridge Fix is where to get all your supplies.

  • @thechosenwon6762
    @thechosenwon6762 Před 3 měsíci

    I 16:40 i had that joystick for my amgia back in the day i remember it broke and had such hard getting used to different style

  • @pvc988
    @pvc988 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Solder paste doesn't really make much sense unless you use reflow oven or hot plate. It's also supposed to be applied using stencil and it just makes a mess if not used correctly.
    One easy method to solder these relatively big SMD chips with simple iron is to tin just one pad, place the chip roughly in its position and solder that one tinned pad. You can then do some fine adjustment to the chip position while reflowing that single anhor pin. Whey you are happy with positioning, just flood all pins with healthy amount of flux and do the drag soldering with your iron.

    • @steve.b.23
      @steve.b.23 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I came to the comments to say something similar. Tack pin 1 to the board, make sure the IC is properly aligned, then tack the pin diagonally opposite to pin 1. Then, as you say, plenty of flux, a bit of solder on the tip, and drag it from one end to the other.
      The person who taught me to solder SMDs drummed the mantra "Clean tip, plenty of flux" into my head. I held the IPC J-STD-001 trainer qualififcation for a couple of years. I told the same thing to everyone I trained.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      That's certainly another way to do it. However I have watched so many tutorials and a healthy proportion use paste for this kind of thing. I guess it's down to individual preferences, which as we have all learned online, do vary 😅 Using your method, how much solder would you tin onto the one pad in order to later drag it to the others? A large bubble as I ended up with initially? Or a small amount?

    • @pvc988
      @pvc988 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@RetroRecipes That one pad needs just enough solder for itself. It's not a problem if you add a little bit too much. You're just going to have a bridge. Bridges are not a problem at this point. They are going to be corrected by drag soldering. Other pads get solder from your iron. You're going to figure out how much to use quickly yourself ;) It really just takes a few tries. If you still have stubborn bridges after drag soldering, you may need to add some fresh flux and/or remove excess solder.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci

      @@pvc988 Copy that. So for pin 2 onwards just tin the tip of the iron and drag it all out, correct?

    • @pvc988
      @pvc988 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@RetroRecipes Yep

  • @hessex1899
    @hessex1899 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Regarding lead. Go and get yourself some "D Wipes". They are great for removing lead residue from skin.

  • @chippey69696969
    @chippey69696969 Před 4 měsíci +1

    awesome

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder Před 4 měsíci +1

    You finally decided to also join the SMD clip, no chips with dips anymore? 😂 The first time in college back in 1991 we had to SMD solder I was very weary. But when I started I was like: “this goes faster and is easier than dips.” Also solder paste is only great for oven work (preferably with a stencil). For hand soldering some fine 0.2mm solder is the way to go. At least for me.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 4 měsíci +1

      "Hello chip pasters" doesn't have the same ring to it though ;)

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@RetroRecipesNo it doesn't :D

  • @pamelax64
    @pamelax64 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi,thanks for the video,i've got Action replay with my C64,may i ask what is this flux soldering gray past?,amazon link posted did not help me,greets!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Před 3 měsíci +1

      The paste is in the description 👍🕹️