I expected better... - Samsung Galaxy Fold 4
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
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Linus has been using his Galaxy Fold 3 for a year now and was excited at what upgrades Samsung has in store for their newest Fold 4, but are there any big changes, or is the foldable line already getting stale?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 New daily driver?
0:11 Unboxing the Fold 4
1:22 Tech Tip: Screen Cleaning a Foldable
2:07 The crease/hinge
3:10 The frame
4:04 The bezel
4:46 The specs
5:34 The layout
6:18 Sponsor - dbrand
7:54 Back to the screen, and a fun software update
8:42 Speakers
8:58 What's this, a noticeable difference?
10:24 Camera
11:15 The small screen experience
11:52 Comparing the front and rear cameras
14:04 What do we need more time with?
15:01 Productivity
15:30 Battery
16:03 Conclusion - Věda a technologie
The fact that the fold lived through a year of Linus use speaks volumes
On the other hand, the fact that his looks this terrible after only a year is absurd. Phones should last 4-5 years, 3 at minimum.
@@daylen577 not in Linus hands
@@CarlosLins1 As funny as it is to beat on him for dropping stuff, he takes ten times better care of his stuff than the average person does. I've seen non-foldable phones look worse after less than a year. The only significant blemish on his Fold is the crease, and that's outside of his control.
He probably killed at least 2 of them.
Doesn't look bad considering a vinyl wrap has been its only defense for a year.
13:34 If you want to use the other lenses you have to change the aspect ratio to the regular 4:3 and not the 4:3(50MP) as that mode only uses the main shooter to capture maximum resolution photos, it works the same on my s21U except it's 4:3(108MP)
On the same topic, the double shutter button is their movable shutter that makes one handed pictures easier. You can get rid of it by dragging the second shutter back onto the main one, or just disabling it in settings.
Yes! I was about to comment this but you beat me to it.
Exactly!
I was silently screaming at my phone at work. XD
Yeah I was screaming when I saw that but I get this is just a first impression rather than a full review.
yea thats what i noticed
The reason why you didn't get a 3x zoom option in the camera app is because you used 3:4 50 mp mode, meaning that everything that you shoot comes from the 50mp sensor. Click on the 3:4 icon and change it to the regular 3:4 instead of the 50mp one. You'll get the option to use the ultrawide and the 3x optical zoom. The pictures that you showed were not from the 3x optical zoom sensor.
Thank you, that was frustrating to watch.
still this should be more clearly pointed out somehow in the camera app
@@suomipoeka when you're in 50mp mode you'll only use the 50mp camera...shouldn't that be obvious?
This proves the point, that it should be more clear. Your reply sounded like something I’d hear in a university class.
@@skybuilding5182 its pretty logical to me. If there's only 1 50mp camera, how could it use the other shooters
10:44 The second shutter button it's actually a feature. It can be moved around on the screen for better accessibility.
it is a feature in Samsung phone for many generations already!!
And it is not limited to the top shelf models! All models have this feature.
This particular one is in fact a bug as I have seen the same thing happen on an M20. 🫠 The second camera button cannot be moved over the main button as far as I'm aware. A relaunch of the camera app fixes it.
I thought it was a bug on my s10 and got so annoyed. I still can't figure out how to turn it off
@@Zender- it’s a bug in this particular case.
10:54 That additional shutter button is actually a feature of OneUI. You can place that extra shutter to provide easier access while clicking photos. It can be removed by simply dragging it on top of tha main shutter.
How does he daily drive the phone and yet he doesn't know that? Matter of fact he's daily driven a Samsung phone for years it's baffling he doesn't know it's a feature
@@defnotatroll same with the saturation 2mins earlier..
@@defnotatroll One UI has so many features that it's really easy to miss some
@@pandapolygon that as well yeah I was yelling "screen modes!" in my head
@@defnotatroll maybe he uses another camera app than the standard Samsung one, such as OpenCamera.
10:43 the second capture button appears when you drag away from the main capture button. You can move it wherever you want, very helpful for one handed use. Not a bug.
sheeeshh i just realize that, lmeo
im also thought its a bug xD
Not a bug, but it looks like whoever first used the phone left it on top of the permanent shutter button.
Yeah even my s10 has that feature, it's been around for years. Comes in handy sometimes.
I have a samsung as well and wasn't aware of this feature. This actually a game changer for taking photos using one hand. I don't need to do the hand yoga anymore.🤣
Definitely helps when it comes to taking photos and moving the camera lenses around. Sometimes I hold my phone upside-down for the best camera shot and can still hold the phone comfortably and move the camera button to me
I loved the immediate realization when he said "warranty nonsense" like "Oh crap I have to watch what I say (more than usual) right now!"
yeah, that immediate realization.... after the cut :D
it is in the video to give this impression, since it was not edited out
Nuh, that was definitely contrived - he had the backpack right there beside him and used it to slide in a sneaky advert for it! 😂
@@gh8447 nice deduction. Watson
I love westerners, everyone pretends like they are sherlock holmes and everything is a conspiracy
The fact about the zoom is that it was using main camera to zoom. As it was set to 50mp it doesn't allow you to switch lenses. So bringing down to normal 4:3 or 12mp mode it would work as we expect to.
Yeah rookie mistake lol
would’ve made sense if it let you use optical zoom tho
@@alyx6427 yeah but then the photo wouldn't be 50mp, the S21 and S22 ultra only let you zoom in 6x in 108mp mode
@@ZachCalin_ and I believe it's just digital zoom
@Marco Vargas yeah it is, you can't get optical zoom on one lens with most phone cameras
This point, I feel like it’ll be mostly iterative updates until Samsung figures out how to get rid of the crease. That said, I was hoping for more of an improvement with the inside front-facing camera.
They actually can get rid of the crease it'll just come at a cost of no water resistance. Unless you know of a better way to remove it then don't worry about it.
@@tristenwilliams558 Hopefully future technology can make it to where that sacrifice isn’t necessary, but I’m fine with what we have for now.
It will be solved with rollables, its not even worth the effort for this design as rollables could even come next year.
It was improved. It is supposedly harder to notice than the previous generation while maintaining the image quality (or lack thereof). It is designed for video calling and conferencing and it is completely serviceable in that regard. Want a better selfie? Then use the front camera while folded. Or even better, unfold the phone and flip it around so you can use the main cameras for even better quality.
@GH0STST4RSCR34M Oppo Find N, Moto Razr, Xiaomi Fold 2 etc all fold in half, & they all use Samsung displays. They've sacrificed water resistence though.
Definitely agree on using the small screen more. A week in of having the Fold 4 I've probably used the small screen 75% of the time, but being able to open to a small tablet when I want to relax and read something is a great feeling
I upgraded from the 3 to the 4 (primarily for the free watch and new buds) and the biggest things for me are the bigger front screen and the fact that the 4 feels like 10000 lbs lighter in my hand and pocket.
I'm still on the 2 , Funny that people worry for its durability and yet I throw it around for 2 years + and its still going strong apart from the battery life now
Not the case for me. I do use the small outer screen, but by far not as much as the inner screen. Typing on the small screen is bearable but I don't like how flimsy the layout of most apps is. Thus, I usually open it to use the inner screen.
Especially for reading, it's incredible.
It is ❤️
I'm sure someone else said it already,but the reason there are two shudder buttons is so you can move one to a more convenient place. You can also auto shutter in selfie mode with an open palm. Pretty thoughtful considering how shaky we can be when we press.
Had mine a month, Never go back to ifone stuff .
With a few adjustments, end of day is about 30% or more charge left ,,and lots of screen time done .
Love it to bits
With the camera zoom problem, if you press the "4:3 50MP" and switch to just"4:3" it should work. Also, the 2 shutter buttons are not a bug, it's a feature you can enable that means you can choose were to place a second shutter button. Hope this helps :)
Honestly this makes me think if his channel really is "tech tips"🤦
And they plan on opening labs soon? I know Linus is getting the first look and maybe phones aren’t his main suit, but this has been a feature since the S20. Though to be fair this is a first on folding Samsungs to venture past 12 MP sensors. But yes it’s the 10MP sensor that’s actually a 3x optical, not the 50mp main.
@@mammid9622 wrong channel
Here is the first impression channels and showing off new things
Bro even if this is first look, i mean linus should check the settings i found that ou in minutes with my fold 4. Keep linus on main channel and bring anthony or someone else here
@@Br-Shaft yes but it's still by the same guy, he still has a big following and just spreads misinformation
Fold 4 shows that lack of true competition is stifling innovation in the foldable phone form factor.
Have you seen any innovation in any other form factor?
except there is, iirc Vivo did a foldable phone for like 1400$ in fact I was wondering if FINALLY we would see Linus reviewing it but I guess it still a no, quite unfortunate since we got to see it here in europe 3 months ago. Maybe it's not available in NA ?
well I'm waiting for a comparison because it seems like you can't see the crease on the Vivo X Fold and it's bigger which makes more sense when it's folded.
@@YOEL_44 foldable phones are still in their infancy so it should be expected that each iteration would change more compared to the more mature conventional mobile phone.
Yeah , samsung is the only mainstream company doing foldable so needless to say they are the only one innovating ,
Lack of demand = lack of competition.
I'm sure you know but, transferring your data on samsung devices is amazing. You can literally mirror your old device on the new one almost perfectly. Transferring the data either wireless or wired takes a little time but it's great.
It works almost perfectly. Only thing i noticed is i got to relogin into all my social media apps.
Yup just connect a usb-c cable to connect the phones to each other and that's it. Love that feature
I have the 21 ultra and I love the ultrasonic fingerprints sensor and it works better than several regular fingerprint sensors although be it they were slightly older fingerprints sensors.
As far as I know the "V" shape comes from dust entering the hinge and gets stuck there. There's no way to remove it so it isn't able to unfold completely after some time. Both mine ended up like that.
Mine's like that too, i just have to crank it a little more to have it completely flat
i think its true, as i went to the beach about 2 months ago, and now my fold 2 has a V
Samsung should include a hinge cleaning service in the free 1yr Samsung care.
ive even had a case with a hinge cover on my Z fold 2 and if i take the case off i can see a very slight v shape, though slightly less pronounced than linus's
@@Le_Mon9
Would still cost money then
50MP is only the main sensor. The rest are not 50MP just set to 4:3 (non 50 MP) and you'll have the other lens options.
The software should make this distinction invisible to the user. It should choose the appropriate lens/sensor for whatever you're doing.
@@TalesOfWar also it should never be on 50mp mode by default, then it would always dinamically switch
50mp mode is worse 90% of the time anyway
@@izanefe4231 it's never the default mode. This is an already used device by either his, although it's most likely the team behind Dbrand.
@@TalesOfWar I do like having the option to use the full resolution of the sensor though. By default it is 4:3 at 12MP, I paid for the 50MP, so let me use it all if I have a specific use for it.
@@izanefe4231 it ain't default big man
i've seen on our insider spreadsheets for new folds that both screen are actually 100nits brighter than previous generations, also the main screen now goes down to 1hz and not 10hz like in previous series
10:48 the two capture buttons is actually draggable :) you can drag the capture button where ever on the screen to make it easier to take a picture. To get rid of the second button, drag it over the main one and it'll disappear:D
Doesn’t the color difference just mean that the F4 is set to “vivid” color mode while Linus’s F3 is set to “standard”?
Ye
I believe default is vivid, so yeah
I love vivid mode... it makes tbe colors pop
@@JRBowling1997 The colours do "pop" but too much, they look artificial. Setting the screen to "natural" mode is one of the first things I do when I get hold of a new Samsung.
@@JRBowling1997 yeah but if you're shopping for anything vivid won't represent the colour of the product you're looking to purchase
From 12:39, comparing the cameras on the fold 4. The reason why u couldn't switch the lenses is because u were using the full 50mp at 3:4, if u switched to the regular 3:4 it starts to use pixel binning for the main sensor and also allows u to use other lenses for zooming. It's a similar feature u can use on the s21 ultra where u switch to full 108mp, 3:4 and then u can't use any other lense
Agreed on all. I wanted to yell at the video, reach in and switch it to non 50mp mode. Also they listed it as 6x optical which also drove me crazy.
@@Betancourtdm +1
Please correct the video!
@@Betancourtdm I DID Yell at the video... Specifically, I yelled "You Idiot!". I recently upgraded from the S20 Ultra to the S22 Ultra and knew what the problem was immediately. It surprises me that someone who uses these phones daily isn't aware of that.
This, I was on my way to say this
I was just typing this . U can see a samsung hater in this dude easy
Other than the wear on my flip3's finish, the phones been amazing.
Keep in mind though if you work around metal working, the magnets can attract metal shavings and stick to the magnets that keep the screen closed and potentially kill the display.
In fairness to the S22 ultrasonic fingerprint reader, you just have to add 'additional finger' as the sides of the finger. Once you do that, the misses drop precipitously.
Hey Linus, I also have the fold 4
If you are in 50MP mode, it locks in the main camera no matter what zoom you are using
And the main camera selfie mode has a terrible lag on the cover display
Genuine question here @Olly
As someone that has noticed the steady incline of MSRP costs for smartphones since their inception, and quality control becoming much broader in terms of what's included in devices, what is it that draws you to an ABSOLUTELY brand new device, that costs around 2,000 USD (and more) from a series that has been known to be plagued with issues? Are the bleeding edge features much more prominent than downfalls? I'm not even gonna pretend I know what it's like having a PHONE with 12gb of RAM, and a mobile GPU that's arguably the strength of a GTX 960.
Same thing on the Galaxy s22. Was a little annoying right away before I figured that out.
@@dylanherron3963 because people have money to burn on cool shit they dont need
@@swagmalone8092 I mean sure, I own a desktop gaming PC with specs far above the minimum. I surely don't need that.
But I could never buy a brand new CPU line right when it releases, because of the issues that come with early adoption.
@@dylanherron3963 they don’t necessarily own a Fold 4, that same software quirk is available on the S20 i used
I love it when the finger sensor is built into the power button.
I do that on my 3.
same, i dont get why samsung is trying to change that, when its on the screen you need to press the power button and tap your sensor to open your phone but when its on your power button you just tap it and your phone opens imediately
@@kosmas173 No you don't. At least on S21 Ultra
I love mine so far. As for apps showing small on full screen, this can be changed under settings, and you can force apps to all open in full size mode by default.
I find I use the inner screen much more. Only really use the outer screen for quickly reading txt, notifications, calls and my bank app. Pretty much everything else I will open it up.
The fold 4 is my first fold and LOVING it, don't think I will be able to go back to a normal phone. Just hope apps get better. I plan on trying to use my fold as a second m9nitor for my laptop on my next trip, if it works and we'll it could be an awesome use case.
I have had an ipad for years, but never use it as its never nearby when I need it, end up just using my phone or going to the pc/grabbing the laptop, now I don't need to.
something to keep in mind, the hinge feel between a daily driven 3 and a brand new 4 is hard to compare. my 3 when it was new was stiff as a board. now, it's quite a bit softer than what it used to be. either we need to compare brand new to brand new, or compare both after being broken in.
Same goes for the crease. How can he compare a brand new Fold 4 crease to a year old Fold 3?
I agree with u, but I think the hinge on the fold 4 is different than the 3, also on the 3 I would hear weird noises when closing /opening, on this one its butter smooth
@@adamski101 in the video he at least acknowledges that his fold 3 has more wear so that might change how the crease looks compared to a brand new fold 4.
The 2nd capture button at 10:43 is a feature. You can turn it off in the settings.
*been daily driving the Z4F and it's so much easier to grip while opened with the S-Pen Case! Really blew my expectations away. Have my iPhone as my 2nd line and i barley even touch it anymore*
@ShortCircuit the two shutter buttons is not a bug, its an options in settings. You can move the 2nd shutter button to anywhere on the screen to make it easier to take photo if you have small hands or something.
I bought a Fold 3 based on reviews from Linus and others and can safely say its the best phone i've ever owned. Having the ability to use the front screen like a normal phone, then immediately open up to the inside screens to show my aging parents photo's or even just to watch a video is something i never want to loose. Fold 4 seems like its not enough of an improvement to upgrade, especially for how much these phones cost, but i'm very interested to see how Samsung progress's these designs next generation.
The battery is the biggest upgrade
It actually is bro..
@@stunna1x hell yeah u got one?
@@silentgrind34 hell yeah I did cos am tired of the slab fons!
@@silentgrind34 couldn't get over the difference in battery life from the three to the floor I gave my three to my father LOL
Own a Fold 4. The colour difference is a setting in the phone, you can get that pastel saturation like on Linus' old phone with a button press. Battery life is better than his stated for the Fold 3, the CPU is more efficient in standby. Took me a while to realise you have to enable fast charging on cable in the settings though, charge time kind of sucks ~2h for something lasting a day. Wireless charging consistently fails, the point on the phone where you get the sweet spot is really hampered by the camera bump. So waking up with a phone at like 10% charge and then having to wait 2 hours isn't a good experience.
2 hours is a long time. Is that how long it takes to get to 100%? Is there a higher wattage adapter one can use to bump the charge time down?
Try a different wireless charger.
I have purchased this model - Wireless Charger Dock Fast Charging Stand with Cooling Fan for iPhone Samsung -
Its a nice dock that has given me no issues with my Z Fold 4.
The phone does not take 2 hrs to charge thats wildy inaccurate
Something might be wrong. It shouldn't take that much time to charge. Maybe fast charging is turned off. Or other things might be reasoning it.
@@nazmulhuda3262. where is the fast charging located
The Vivid mode tone mapping uses a scaled down version for video playback. Open the Settings and CZcams app in split-screen and play around with the colour settings. You'll notice that Natural and Vivid look similar when a video is playing.
It's good to see that the stuff I hated about the three is fixed and even better in this version, I was very hesitant on upgrading to a fold ever again but my guy you have sold me
If you're using 4:3 50MP then you are using the main Wide camera, to use 3x optical you have to switch over to regular 4:3 (12MP?) and then you have the option to select 3x. If you're telling the camera app you want 50MP, it won't know "Ok NOW I want 10MP 3x optical"
FYI: fold 3 DID NOT have 1TB of storage as an option. It's new with fold 4
wasnt it 512gb an 1 tb ?
@@KaranPuriFlirtyWardrobe S22 Ultra had 1TB as an option.
@@KaranPuriFlirtyWardrobe 256 and 512
Got the 256 model myself
I'm new to foldables having just bought the Fold 4. What an amazing form factor for consuming content. Total game changer and I'm all for it. It's a little weighty and thick when folded but I otherwise love it and will happily daily drive it.
What I can't stand are the case options. I typically armor out my phones but you can't really do that with the Fold unless you make some annoying compromises.
I hate adhesive use with most front face covers, having to carry a chunky S pen separately makes a chunky phone even chunkier, hinge covers either will not close by itself or magnets will do it but leave a dead spot when using the pen over the magnet regions, hinge covers block a portion of the front face for main camera selfies, wireless charging won't function with certain pen locations, fabric pen holders will get stretched by pen tips, etc.
I ended up getting a knock off S View cover since they don't make an official one (so no S View functionality or S pen slot 😟). Eh...
Same. Best phone I have ever owned.
Supcase Unicorn Beetle Pro. I have a Fold 3, and it took ages for this case to be released for it, but it's the best armored case I've seen by far for these things. Plus, there's a slot for the S Pen in the hinge protector.
@@xen84 Did you have any issues with the clips holding the S pen? I got a similar case to the UB Pro and one of the clips broke.
@@davetechme I've had no issue at all. Also, the pen is kept internally in the hinge cover. Even if one did break, it would probably still stay inside the cover. And even that seems unlikely, since the plastic is softer and not brittle.
I have the Fold 3 from launch and love it. It was a bit scarry for a hot minute because I had pulled the screen protector off the internal screen due to it bubbling in the middle only to have it do the same exact thing 4 months later. That second bubbling made me think the main screen was gone but in fact it was a second, yes second, internal factory screen protector. There were two internal screen protectors on my phone from the factory. It was nerve racking because I was trying to figure out what I was going to do as I was still making payments on the phone but in the end it was a goof in the manufacturing process.
7:28 Honestly Linus won me over when he called the sponsors A-holes ...."no they can change it"😂
The color difference could be because the Fold 4 is on vivid mode and the Fold 3 is on standerd or natural mode.
Also, my S22 Ultra unlocks 99% of the time, the other 1% is because I'm not putting my finger right on the sensor. Your wife could register the same finger again to bump up reading probability.
Yeah Samsung has some of the best under display fingerprint scanners afaik.
I think he said s21 ultra
Yeah, I rarely have issues on my S21+. Occasionally I have to try it twice because my finger was just too far outside of the sensor area.
@@copieXD Both of the S21 and S22 use the same ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
@@andrewt9204 The always on display shows you where the fingerprint sensor is at all times.
The two shutter buttons are actually a feature to help you take better photos with one hands
You can turn it off in settings or drag it over to the original shutter button to turn it off
Would you consider adding a green or read arrow besides the stats? Maybe also with how much of a percentage difference there is? It's starting to get confusing with names and stats some times in tec vids. Love your work, the 4th wall talking with crew and overall editing :D
To clarify, the duplicated capture button in the camera app is a feature. You can slide it anywhere, so you don't have to reach for the original capture button. You can toggle it from settings, but it has been removed in OneUI 5 beta as far as I can tell in my S22 Ultra.
11:50 Can confirm that it isn't easy to hold onto when open. What I ended up doing was adding a folding ring (Spigen Ring 360 is the one I got) and that makes a WORLD of difference. With that mounted on the back now it's a piece of cake to hold one handed.
You must have small hands because I have no issues
Secret to folding phones!
@@jimj78 same here
I WISH these would come down in price. I'd LOVE to get one of these. THIS would make me swap from iPhone. I love the concept and the multi-tasking and multiple things open MAKES SENSE with this screen space.
I REALLY want one of these phones when I next upgrade- especially now that we've seen what a review is like after using it for a daily driver for a while. Love this.
The trade-ins are up to $1000, including iPhones, and you can do 36 month Samsung Financing with 0 interest, these are as affordable as can be.
I don't get it they literally come down in price every single year and Linus basically said they're exactly the same so why not go to eBay and buy one for $900-1000 brand new Fold3?
I was this way about the s22 ultra but at the end of the day as someone who switches between Apple and Samsung flagships every year, I really do appreciate the fact that my iPhone works 98% of the time. When I purchased my s21 ultra I was unbelievably disappointed in how inconsistent Android is, to no surprise.
You have to select 4:3 mode to access the 3x camera. It's same for S22 ultra's 3x and 10x
After a weekend of moving over to the fold 4, I've been really happy with the folded closed experience on the fold, I feel like its a galaxy s10e like screen and It does the job for day to day texting. Best part of the fold 4 is the most underated part, the fold being wider and shorter on the outside means the inner screen gets TWO wider/shorter screens to work with, multi-tasking is amazing even more so now than before. It used to feel like I had 2 sides of a super tall janky screen, but now I have 2 galaxy s10e's glued together which makes things much more enjoyable.. Media consumption has gotten better on the tiktok side of things at least, as well as instagram, both have new features (i imagine will come to the fold 3).
The fold series is such a banger - you just know if Apple released the same thing but with an apple logo on the back, influencers and news outlets would be raving about it nonstop
Exactly. Samsung is kicking Apple's ass and nobody is talking about it. Apple is so far behind. I used the iPhone 6S since 2015 and switched to Samsung this year and I'm so happy about it.
Yes, but Apple would charge 3K for it :)
An Apple foldable would be so much better than a Samsung foldable tho....
Especially for designing things.
@@BlackParade01 if apple brought out an foldable it would have the same specs as the fold 2 like they do with the iPhones there phones are always 2 years behind all the rest
@@Adam-uz9sc that's funny, because the iPhone's chipset is literally YEARS ahead of any Android flagship chipset. Also, they have literally the best display, with Dolby Vision and 2000 NITS!
Samsung is the one trailing behind. It's 2022 and Samsung flagships still don't even have Dolby Vision
Been having my Fold 4 for a couple of days and I'm loving it. Never have I owned a foldable device so I gotta say this one met every expectation that I have for a foldable phone.
It's true Fold 3 to Fold 4 isn't a huge improvement but if this is your first foldable phone, Fold 4 rocks!
I've had mine a couple hours,stoked
Why would you want to own a foldable phone? Aren’t we over that
@@skoruno1 Why would we be over that?
@@skoruno1 It's the future, get on with the times old man
Is it still good ?
I've gotten my zfold roughly about the same time as this video upload and I'm still finding things out about the phone that I didn't know. I just wish I had a 2 or 3 to do a side by side comparison. One thing I have found out was that it'll allow you to have more than one SIM as in eSim.
I will never stop loving the chemistry between linus and Dbrand
The continued banter between DBrand and Linus has been fantastic.
I've been out of the loop since the gpupocalypse. That was pretty tense. What happened?
@@davetechme it’s all in good fun. It’s just a running joke of throwing shade at each other with a wink and a nod to the fourth wall. I actually find it refreshing and organic compared to most sponsorship shout outs that are more robotic.
@@ericc2662 Funny you mentioned robotic since Dbrand are supposed to be bunch of robot trolls. Lol
@@davetechme Dbrand is a company known for banter with partners and customers. The banter is often cursing, being smug, making fun of people, acting like an asshole. They are very, very open about their goal - they want your money. They make products, they want you to buy it. That's it.
The catch, you ask? They make great products. So everybody likes them because they are not fake, everything is tongue-in-cheek and they do right by the consumers so you really can't complain. The only thing you can dislike about them is that you don't like this type of humor and prefer fake corporate friendliness.
@@The_Viktor_Reznov thanks for the update, I was confused as well
I hope Linus comes back to this, I've had the fold4 since launch and the software improvements are a night and day difference, almost forgot about some of these issues lol
im thinking of buying a fold4, how well do you think yours is holding up? Crease and hinge details especially
It looks like the shorter fold4 suffers from wider black bars on the top and bottom of the video in landscape mode. When zooming in to blow the image up you lose more of the sides of the image. How does making it more square improve the aspect ratio? Seems like they made it worse.
About the crease: according to other tech tubers the crease is necessary to get the IPX8-rating. If I'd use a foldable I'd prefer IPX8 over creasefree display. About battery: the new processor is so much better in energy efficiency that the fold 4 outlasts the the S22Ultra in movie-playback endurance test, despite the S22 having a smaller screen and a 5000mAh battery compared to the 4400mAh of the fold4. I have to admit that I'm not sure how this translate everyday-usage.
Where? Who said that about the crease? I watch a lot of tech yt and I haven't heard a single one give this explanation
toss the source of the tech tubers?
I've gotten a consistent 6-10 hours of SoT since I received my Fold 4 on Tues. It's very impressive
@@Lucid_XP I saw it in a video from TechTalkTV with the title "Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4 - We finally Know Why Samsung Let Oppo And Xiaomi Win".
Not using a fold3 or 4 doesn't mean I don't know how the crease looks. My partner had the fold3 and switched to a fold4 and I stand with my statement that for me IPX8-rating is better than a crease-free display.
@@alexk.1168 gotchu, and I wasn't doubting you I was genuinely just curious to know more
While it's been a long time since upgrading on every revision made sense for most products, it seems like such tiny improvements that it could have been a stealth update and no one would have been any wiser.
If I had one of those I think I would use the small screen most of the day, then use the tablet style screen at home or on my break at work. So the small screen is very important imo.
That's actually what I do. When I first got it I was opening it for everything lol
@@TheresaNicole1030 not me guessing the average use case scenario without having one 😌😎
Even though the fold 4 doesn't have much upgrade from the fold 3. It feels terrific with the changes made. Especially the battery life. Also the second shutter button is a feature. If you drag the shutter button another will appear that you can use to take a photo so that you can teach it better.
Just use smart switch to transfer everything? Used it to transfer all my content from my old phone and it worked perfectly.
5:57 My S21 Ultra's fingerprint scanner actually works very well in my opinion, although I do feel like my OnePlus 7 Pro's was slightly faster. It's very reliable (even in rough conditions) and pretty fast.
The onscreen fingerprint scanner is my favorite thing when it comes to my s20 FE, I would hate to lose that especially because now I hardly ever use my power button.
@@johnellis8401 same with mine, it's amazingly fast and works almost everytime
Ultrasonic FP works even with moisture on my thumb. I checked that. Was not a thing with side or back mounted ones I have used in the past.
Ditto, i always had issues with "classic" fingerprint readers but unless my hands are dirty my ultrasonic one works almost 100% of the time
It's super fast and reliable on my s22 ultra
Ironically watching this on my new Fold4, and I have to say I love it. Media consuming is just on a whole new level over my previous non folding phone.
Since you were in 50 megapixel mode all of your photos were using the main sensor. You have to select the normal "4:3" aspect ratio so that the telephoto is used (and that way you'll have the options to switch lenses like you had in video mode)
100% Feel Linus on the work it takes to get setup on a new device, or to start fresh on a device that may just be acting up after updates.
They can have all the backup software included they want, outside of full root access and being able to Titanium Backup and Restore, you almost always, always have to Download, login, 2FA, ETC and it will be a multi hour event unless you just don't use very many apps.
Also I have to say I am getting slightly more tempted little by little for one of these foldables, just for the usefulness and overall different sake as I continue to DD a LG Wing that, while not Top Tier hardware spec wise, the dual screen is still super useful especially when traveling, and the overall phone continues to work extremely well for most all my use cases even though I have a Pixel 6 sitting unused with its better screen refresh, camera performance, and overall SoC performance. But the Wing just has me hooked and damn do I wish LG was around to make a Wing 2 with possibly better specs. The only thing that I wish it didn't have was that dang curved edge screen.. Ugh that is a "Design Feature" that needs to die forever.
One of the "two" camera "buttons" is an option even on the Note 9. One is fixed and the other you can move around or choose to turn off in options.
Floating shutter button, it turned on my s20 after an update and i literally just figured out how to turn it off a few weeks ago
... I think I had this on my S2.
@@alexandermackinnon7596 It can be really useful depending on how you hold the phone and what you are shooting I've found so glad it is an option.
Just bought the fold 4. I held out for it, and the front screen was a deciding factor for me. That little bit of new real estate seemed worth the wait. That being said I'd love to know what keyboard Linus uses. I'm sure I'll improve but my typos are through the roof on the front screen. Also, I've been waiting for his review. I'd already made the decision to purchase as I also believe in the form factor but I haven't had the luxury of daily driving one. I'm truly looking forward to it. I'd appreciate any pointers.
Have you tried using swipe on gboard? Once you get used to it, it's amazingly efficient with minimal typos
He uses the default samsung keyboard
I also found gboard to be the most versatile on both cover and inner screens. It was the best one on the ZF3 because it handled the narrower screen a little better than Sammy's own (better height adjustment options in gboard).
I switched to Gboard on my Fold 4 and I much prefer the split layout on it. The keys are aligned on a nearly ortholinear grid there which makes it much nicer to use (for me).
I occasionally swipe type on it with one finger, but usually type with both thumbs.
I ways open my fold to type. Linus says he dislikes typing on the split keyboard, but i prefer it.
An idea about the s21 ultra sensor it's best to record the thumb print or what ever finger they use more than once. This will make the sensor more precise
I kind of agree with the concept. I like the idea of a larger screen as you need it. But I feel like the folding action itself is kind of a self destructive process. Let's see a roll out screen like the global link in Earth Final Conflict.
I tried the fold 4 out in a Best Buy the other day. I've tried other folding phones before like the older z flips and z folds. The screen on this phone and the z flip 4 feel remarkably like glass. Obviously they are still mostly plastic and are almost as fragile as plastic, but the feeling is uncanny. If feels exactly like glass. It's a small thing, but super impressive in my opinion.
I will be impressed when that crease goes away
@@infinitydreamzz pyshics is a thing yk
@@benny.pepper physics is a thing that evolves
@@infinitydreamzz How does physics evolve? If you fold something there will be a crease. It's literally common sense
@@infinitydreamzz maybe in a videogame not in real life
Tip for the underscreen fingerprint readers... Put each fingerprint that you want to use into it 2x each. That way you are MUCH more likely to have it read correctly on the first shot.
That's true even with not underscreen.
Whenever i try that i get a "fingerprint already exists" popup
@@woutchauvaux6672 just try to rotate the finger slightly
5:57 I disagree, it works perfectly ...or maybe Samsung did much better underscreen fingerprint scanner on Samsung Galaxy S21 FE. Or maybe her device is faulty or she didn't follow instruction (scan finger on different positions)
edit 1: 10:44 When you long click camera-button, you can duplicate it and move it around. This is old feature.
edit 2: 9:14 Your other phone had different screen mode (display-settings): Vivid vs natural.
Actually you find these issues mention by many users here (who speak better English than me), maybe you guys should really make some standard research - this was just bad. I am also disappointed, because i am such a loyal viewer of all your channels
yeah also the battery life is better since the better CPU but he doesn't even bother
@@ruey-henglee8995 lol this is short circuit. As if he hasn’t mentioned multiple times in this video “ he’s off today “
Run a business with over 80 people, be this active and then you can criticize:D
Or Samsungs inconsistent software & hardware means the finger print reader just genuinely isn’t working
2. In this particular case it is a bug as he clearly didn’t hold it down to duplicate it
Maybe you should watch the video close before you criticize. Clearly you’re not a “ long time “ viewer.
I got Galaxy S20 FE and holy shit I hate the fingerprint scanner sometimes. I've had to reset it multiple times just because it didn't want to register my fingerprint the next day. And then on top of that I can't even remove saved fingerprints individually, I have to reset my code and all saved fingers. Plus you can't name your saved fingerprints. Just some things I have after switching to Samsung after daily driving Oneplus phone for 4 years.
I have the fold 3 and I'm switching to and iPhone for a couple years and the. I will check back on the fold 6 which should be so much better then where we are now. Great first look / review!
If Linus is reading this, the Fold 4 does actually have a battery level increase since the processor is more efficient especially since it is on 4nm.
Yeah I think the sd 8 gen1 was just too new of a system and they didn't have it refined yet. The 8+ seems like a much better chip.
That's not going to make a difference. Most of your battery life comes from your screen, not your battery life. Notice how battery life has not changed much over the years. In fact, I still remember the 3 days of battery I would get from my old droid incredible2 with its 4 inch 720p screen.
That's not really true though. The battery is the same size but discharges slightly slower. It's not an increase, it's just a slightly more efficient processor.
@@flyingtentacle7631 ohh trust me it does, comparing my fold 4 to my co workers fold 3 i get atleast 4 hours longer per charge than when his was brand new, similar working roles too so our usages are roughly the same.
the 8+ gen 1 is much more power efficient overall.
@@flyingtentacle7631 I will, with respect, say that you are wrong. Go watch various reviews and videos on how the battery in fold 4 is. It beats the s22 Ultra 5000mAh with longer SoT, while having multiple screens. You may read through socials as well if you don't have time for videos. I assure you, the SoC improved the battery life by a lot
You should talk about what accounting is required to have a warranty.
loving mine so far. I suggest get the case and front screen protector for it, make sure the case covers the hinge.
This seems to be the common denominator with people having issues - dbrand having their case with a hinge cover sounds like all you need to protect it.
Can't see myself going away from the fold now that I've used the fold 3 since launch. This however seems too early for me for an upgrade. I don't have any issues at all with my fold so I guess I'm running the fold 3 until the 5 or something like that.
Still rocking the Note9 with a headphone jack and microSD card that I use pretty often. However, the fold phone looks really awesome.
same here, might get something like Fold3 refurbished it they are this mature already
I've never had issues with Samsungs in-screen fingerprint reader. Neither S10+ or S22 Ultra. It's always been fast and responsive, even when I peel the skin on my thumbs, which I often do. I'm curious to what causes the experience to be so bad for Linus.
Yeah. My S21 Ultra's in display fingerprint reader was amazing. Super fast and very rarely was unable to read my print. I actually prefer touching the display to unlock vs the side, but it's something that's not hard to get used to.
Exactly, but the phone does get hot outside and stutters though. Also about that extra shutter button just drag and drop on the main shutter button man. He pointed it out as a software issue.
Me too my s10's ultrasonic works just perfectly, yet its somewhat worse than in s21 as its size was increased as i remember. Side or rear scanner is definetly superior to basically any UD optical scanner, but not superior compared to ultrasonic.
i guess it's depends on finger, and the current state of the skin .... so the matter is just personal and not apply, and should not be considered.
@@s.i.m.c.a But even then, Ultrasonic should works fine, just take that a look at JerryRigEverything, he has so bad-state fingers, optical fingerprints not works for him, but Ultrasonic does.
The fold 4, although subtle changes do make a big different in daily usage. Linus, you should give it a go. Apps do now open up in full screen automatically if you change the setting.
That was available on Fold 3 with Labs Settings
I've been driving one for 3 days or so now and this is w/o a doubt my favorite phone yet
I've kept my fold 3 in power saving from the day I bought it. This keeps it running throughout the day, no problem. It is still plenty fast
Yeah, I don't have the "V" folding problem either after a full year of use - I wonder what everyone else is doing to their phones
Setup a Bixby routine to go into power saving mode at 30% and that solves battery problem. You are welcome.
definitely hope that this phone line isnt niche enough that they decide to stop it cause i definitely think that in a few more generations fold 5, 6, 7 etc i definitely feel like the crease will get better and less noticeable and that the front screen gets slightly bigger. i saw a folding phone that had a regular screen on it
I don’t think they’d have made it to a 4th generation if it were still widely seen as a gimmicky concept phone rather than a viable driver. Apparently they’re even more popular in Samsung‘a home market of South Korea, and possibly China too but I can’t say for sure.
Now using a fold and love it. I guess thanks Linus for using it so much on WAN Show.
You can adjust the size of the view & font in a browser and in OS settings 🤷🏼♂️
You need to switch to 4:3 not 50mp to use the 3x optical zoom
Linus ain't really the sharpest tool in the shed, I reckon
The outside screen getting a wider aspect ratio is enough of a good change for me
honestly, its the worst thing about my fold 2... i mean my Huawei P30 had a better camera setup, but heck i dont really care about that
or the crease, i really am not bothered with the crease
Spot on video complete agree with it fold 4 should have a s-pen inside and bigger displays hope they fix on the fold 5.
To be honest, when I look at how I enjoy working Excel sheets on that big screen, the crease is the least of my problems. I hardly see it because of UI management of apps.
Thought I would not get used to the small screen. Now I'm used to it.
With regards to small text, you can enlarge your letters on apps like web browser apps.
I love been daily driving fold for years. I skipped the 3. 4 is a nice improvement over the 2. The fold 4 is definitely sharp and uncomfortable compared to the fold 2
Interesting...I find it the most comfortable of the Folds thus far
Is it possible the Fold doesn't lay flat after a while because Linus customizes all his phones by dropping them?
With the two dents on the hinge... it's a possibility.
haven't watched much coverage, but I traded my 3 for the 4. The new taskbar at the bottom and multitasking gestures are the biggest upgrades (settings>advanced>labs). probably wouldn't have pulled the trigger but protested with 1k trade credit (more than I paid last holiday season), a credit + coupon code so a watch 5 pro and buds2 pros were basically free, included case and s pen, and rakuten have me like 10% back so final cost was
10:43 the issue with the two capture buttons.. it's not a bug, it's a feature! Literaly! one of them is the default capture button. when you try to tap and move the default one, there will appear a second one to place it where ever suits you. if you move it back to the default one, it will vanish again!
For someone who's coming from Fold 1, I am excited to switch to Fold 4. I'm pretty sure enduring the small screen, inside plastic screen and all other issues of the 1st gen, I will absolutely have a fun time with this 4th generation.
My frist fold coming from note 20 ultra loving it
Does anyone want to tell Linus to change the screen presets in the display options to "natural colors"?
My fold 2 lasted 14 months and I still looked new
0 issues and I still sold it for £600 and I now got the fold 4 and fell in love all over again
I'm really looking forward to Linus' review of ZF5. Especially after a couple months of use.
never seen a video posted 10 seconds ago
Of course not, you're too busy commenting on videos you haven't watched yet.
I love my fold 3, fold 4 wasn't enough for me to spend 800 (after trade in and pre order) for an upgrade.
Same here. Just got mine in March. I was disappointed until I saw this video.
Also same here!
I'm watching on the zfold 3 had it for a while now and I love it (with the exception for a while I was getting over heating warning) but unless this breaks I don't see me upgrading maybe next gen
As for the restarting in app when opening you need to go into setting and allow it to stay open