Serial Killer Researcher interview-Laura Brand
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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2023
- Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Laura Brandd, a serial killer researcher in Los Angeles.
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As a european, I have to react to that we are "lightyears ahead". I live in a country that have one of the lowest imprisonments. If you are convicted for rape, you're out of prison in under 2 years. Murder, often out in under 8 years. This do not "work". The people here don't feel safe and the victims get humiliated by the system that are set up to protect, "rehabilitate" and understand the offenders. We have psycopats, serialkillers and sexual offenders in Europe too.
I listened to her say that and was like, yeah sure they don't. I'm glad you spoke out. People seem to think Europe is this perfect utopia and its not, not even close.
I'm gald you're shedding light on this.
Yes, I was born and lived in europe, in different contries, including Sweden. The Swedish legal system need reform badly.
As someone living in A europian country... The fact that some think the punishment is not enough as in years, doesn't mean that it is better to put people away for longer.
@@thematriarchy2075 do you think people who commit crimes like this can be rehabilitated? I am not sure it's possible or safe.
She is a hundred percent right about us not having a sense of community. People can live their entire lives in the same neighborhood and not know who their neighbors are.
This is absolutely correct. In the US, we don't have a sense of community. We are distrustful and suspicious of others and wary of letting anyone get too close. Our children grow up with 2 working parents, bullied at school and online, traumatized by regular mass shooter drills, and then we push our children out at the age of 18. Other cultures such as Polynesian, Indian, and Hispanic cultures have strong family ties, community support, and regular family gatherings that make up a healthy and strong support system. In these cultures, children have numerous family members around them and raising them.
That's rite. American government is fd up.
I live in an apartment building with primarily Hispanic neighbors and I rarely see anyone interact with each other. I do know my American neighbors and would like to know all my neighbors. Seems like people are standoff-ish or distant no matter what.
@@jonnuanez7183people are just untrusting today. I try to be nice and start conversations but most people have no interest. Must be me😂 but I just moved to this town and it’s not like where I came from.
in Europe it is no different
Everyone is upset that she isn’t over sharing but honestly she gives “I’m a researcher and have guarded conversations with serial killers” I would not expect her to be bubbly and outgoing
Great point!
if she was fbi she might have to be careful.
Yeah, I agree. Also, it sounded like she might need some sort of release if they hadn't passed away? I'm not positive but it sort of sounds that way.
dont do interview if you dont want to talk then LOL
Exactly. Put yourself in her shoes, people!
I dated a girl during my college years who ended up getting a master's degree in criminal psychology, and has been working with serial killers for decades now. It takes a particular kind of person to get into this sort of work, and bravery is an absolutely necessary prerequisite. Kudos to this lady for performing such a harrowing task.
Yeah, cant imagine some of the indirect emotional weight someone carries with this work even though theu are free of yhe acts themself.
She clearly enjoys that. Probably pretty kinky.
I personally found this interview very frustrating. Mark asked multiple times to give some examples and stories as she has interviewed 100s of serial killers. She kept saying I have so many, and I bet she does, but I found her answers vague and generic.i know she mentioned some names but In comparison, some of the cops mark interviewed gave detailed stories and examples. I know she has lots of inside stories, but she didn't tell.
She'll be writing a book
I don't think she was prepared properly. She should have been given the questions a week ahead of time to recall her research better.
@@AndyPanda3 true I was thinking this. However if she give 2 or 3 really good stories it would be a great advertisement for her future book. I was very interested in the topic and you know she has stories. She knows these guys. I was hoping for some interesting details.
She did say she could only talk about the ones who had died.
@@babzcandlenook26 she didn't give a whole lot of info on the dead ones either.
Mark’s interviewing skills really shine on this one. She didn’t want to give any individual stories so he quickly switched to general questions. He met her where she was instead of trying to force her into talking about what he wanted to talk about.
I've seen Laura Brand be interviewed multiple times for her ongoing study and I can't tell you how revolutionary it's going to be in the field once it's published. She's a frickin hero and has incredible work from what she has shared throughout this decade. Also for preface, Brand has to be private about her research until it's published as it's part of the general ethical code in Psychology/HIPPA related fields so if her answers seem short that's probably why. Also, whoever is funding her research may want that privacy as well until publishing.
I have never seen her before or this fabulous series. She is great.
right. and it's a 'who is funding this?' question. paradoxically, she's more than happy to be interviewed about her research. this seems puzzling to me. all of soft white underbelly interviews, at their essence, seem puzzling to me....
I agree.
@@helenready1310 you're a weirdo!!!
Studying these guys for 10 years and giving one word answers, painful, Mark was trying his best!
My thoughts exactly….
Loved the interview, but Mark was pulling teeth.... I think she was nervous and guarded. Thank you for great work Laura. I can so relate to reading the Nancy Drew books at 10ish.
Painful that Mark was struggling finding good questions to ask. He wasnt prepared enough for this interview in my opinion. This lady was holding back a lot of information and knowledge obviously.
because she's only there to build hype for her book, that's it; it's clear as day what kind of person she is one you check out her social media & website @@IcedDoubleYT
I probably could have answered more questions than she did.
She made a point I felt was startling. The thought of the younger generations growing up with unrestricted, instant access to deviant and demented porn, is truly horrific!
I think Mark brought that up.
there's no connection between porn and violent behavior
@@beeatomsyour right. I remember a contemporary theory class in a university where a student suggested different forms of television being the source of deviance; ultimately or empirically its not. Violence is as old as man.
You are correct, I stand corrected, and Bob's your uncle!@@jessicagoodwin501
@@blasvasco Not everybody with a particular deviance from average commits a crime. Everybody who commits a crime deviates from the average, whether you're referring to sexual or any other behaviour. Even if every sexual criminal was found with pornography specific to their crimes, which would be hard to verify, that would not indicate causality.
is it me or did she give very generic answers?
No, it's not you. Everything she said was generic, lol
it’s not just you. she’s a quack. her credentials are questionable or non-verifiable and she had a weirdddddd relationship with Lawrence Bittaker.
For someone who has interviewed over 50 serial killers, she wasn't very forthcoming with information during the interview.
Saving it for the book 💰
Yes very limited info. Mark trying to pull it out of her ………..
Agreed , hard work for Mark , it’s as if he was having to constantly ask questions , nothing was spontaneous . Could have been interesting but i could almost feel Mark working hard to get an interesting interview .
Copy pasta from another reply:
"Its not uncommon for writers to be somewhat reclusive individuals, as the task of writing requires a lot of alone time. Since speaking and writing are two completely separate skill sets, I bet you that reading her work would be a lot more engaging than listening to her talk about it."
She just seemed nervous to me. Also, like someone said writers and minds like hers might not be the best speakers. She seemed very knowledgeable to me. I think it did seem harder for mark as he had to peel the details out of her but maybe she can get a part two and feel more comfortable.
I think Mark should do part 2 with Laura, where she actually share some of the stories and not only share the dynamics of her working operations.
That was what I expected reading the title. You could see how uncomfortable she was throughout the dialogue.
Buy her book
Why uncomfortable?
Check out Mr. Black’s “Scream For Me” … I believe she is far more forthcoming about the Toolbox Killers and their characteristics. Viewer discretion advised however… it will help you at least understand why in this interview she is somewhat closed off
I remember watching an interview on here with some necrophiliac and what he talked about. He talked about some of the people he's met who were pedophiles and into hurtcore. Even raping babies. That evil shit does go on out there more than we think. There's been times where i let my morbid curiosity get the best of me about what really goes on in the world. Let's just say i look at people differently now. Monster's are real and they walk by us everyday. Keep your kids safe. Peace
Monsters are real. As hard as it is for people to listen to those victimized by them it’s important to hear those stories…..Or listen to the monsters themselves explain what they do and how they get away with it. Shed a bright light into those dark corners where they live. Expose them for what they are and educate people. As a young girl I put myself in some very dangerous situations and frankly it’s only through stupid luck or angels watching over me I wasn’t hurt or worse.
@jesseanderson1904Yes.
@@dawncombs1408agreea and ditto!
Geez, I completely understand you. I'm super cautious about getting to know people. It also has educated me into human psychology a lot!!!
I think that people who feel that they’ve been cast out of society and treated as unwanted, tend to view society as the enemy, and lash out in the most extreme and volatile ways possible
What a dud of an interviewee. “Tell me some of your stories.” Proceeds to not tell any story. “Why do you think we have these issues?” “True crime is shoved down our throats.” Lady, you’re a true crime writer.
she’s an interviewer, i’m sure she felt awkward being the one answering questions. not only that but mark being like “tell me an interesting story” is so vague. it’d be hard for anyone to answer that bc like … what do you want to know ?? he couldve been more specific
Its not uncommon for writers to be somewhat reclusive individuals, as the task of writing requires a lot of alone time. Since speaking and writing are two completely separate skill sets, I bet you that reading her work would be a lot more engaging than listening to her talk about it.
She could be on the shy side, also she may not realize just how intriguing this subject is to the audience. She said this comes natural to her therefore doesn't see her work being that interesting to others
She works with the FBI. I’m sure she’s debriefed by the Bureau as to what can be divulged.
It's like listening to dry toast..
How does an 18 month old survive in an alley with dogs for 6 months with nobody noticing and intervening?? I wish she would elaborate on the lies they tell to diminish their ownership of their behavior. How is this study being conducted? I can't belive an 18 month old actually experienced that
At first I thought she was nervous, but this woman is also hiding her own darkness. The fact that she's been doing this from the age of 26, tells me this is giving her some form of abnormal pleassure. I can't put my finger on but there's a whole lot of iceberg beneath this surface.
Did you watch the interview, she explains that she wants to find more of the victims so the families have closure. How do you automatically go to "abnormal pleassure"?
@@GeekGamer666 Did I watch the interview? No, I just looked at the thumbnail and jumped to conclusions 🤦♂
What she says is on the surface, her body language says otherwise. No doubt what she's doing is helping people but her own motivation/drive is rooted elsewhere.
She boasted at the beginning about having conducted the largest collective study on serial killers with over 50 separate interiews, even more than the FBI! Then proceeded to say basically nothing that the average joe didn't already know. And no, its not because of confidentiality because shs could quite easily tell detailed, indepth stories, without mentioning the persons name. This leaves me wondering if she's really qualified to do this work because she had "nothing" to say!? Mark had to constantly prompt her to speak otherwise this interview would of been over with in 5 minutes. Very disappointing!
Also, what are her credentials? She said nothing about her education. Maybe because she doesn't have one and from the way she carried herself it became more and more apparent. She doesn't talk like a researcher, she's not elaborate enough as if she doesn't really know her stuff, just being superficial, not adding much to the conversation. She got most of her info/stories from watching Mindhunter a few times. That's my guess anyway.
I was disappointed as well. She showed no passion or enthusiasm for what she claimed was a life long obsession for her. She gave no insight, told no interesting anecdotes, and just seemed bored by the whole thing.
The whole interview could have been informative and interesting, instead it was just tedious and dull.
Seriously it seems like she’s a compulsive liar or something every answer was so generic 😂😂😂😂
Exactly! It was a horrible interview- not Mark- her. Poor Mark was pulling teeth.
I felt the same about when she explained the difference between Female and male offender rates.
“I have so many good stories”. I guess she chose not to share any.
Wheel
Why the sarcasm
@@RichardSD1956 give God's rainbow back
It was annoying how she kept saying so many good stories but would end up generalizing
Keep in mind that she has interviewed hundreds of these killers. She probably so accustomed to the horrible stories that it seems nothing to her now so asking her to pick one is like asking a bus driver to tell you the craziest rider they ever had. You become numbed but you know you've seen some crazy ass people.
She seems like she gets pleasure with these communications, I mean no boundaries they call you 24/7 sounds more like a fan than a researcher.
Oh I am sure she gets a kick out of it. Probably pretty kinky in her private life
I guess, I felt differently about this interview than many commenters here. As a clinician, I felt this interviewee was forthcoming and offered very interesting facts about her career and the subjects she studies. Thanks, Mark.
Right! Not sure how much I could say safely. She wants to continue her studying which means face to face with them. Maybe one of the explosive men would react if he found out. IDK!
Agreed....
The interviewer covered all of the essential points, and her responses were tremendously enlightening.
Agreed. And it’s possible she is bound by her position to refrain from disclosure.
I think they are used to such raw interviews that that's what they are expecting. I thought she said a lot as well
After Mark continued to ask pertinent questions. She offered nothing unless asked.
This is a real frustrating interview. She kept talking about how she had "so many stories" but Mark had to pry to get any detail. What detail we did get was very shallow. Talking about childhood neglect and stuff we _basically_ already knew.
Mark: Can you tell me about some of your experiences?
LB: yeah..........................................
Honestly… she’s giving me quack vibes.
How are there so many comments saying "great interview." Every answer was so shallow.
@@Bilow_Selhi She reminds me of one of those people who are obsessed and infatuated with serial killers. Like they chase their obsession, but they don’t really add anything positive or conclusive or scientific to the discussion.
Couldn’t agree more. I don’t think she even knows what format the interviews typically take. Mark having to probe continuously for us to learn anything remotely substantive was just annoying. If this is supposed to be a rollout for her book/research this was an epic fail for me
Holy crap my heart stopped when she mentioned Wayne Adam ford. I didn’t think he would be an interviewee. He lived with my family during his active killing spree. He worked with my dad and started renting a room in our house when his wife left him. He turned himself in because he knew he was going to kill his ex wife and he didn’t want to leave his daughter without a mom. I was a kid, but there’s photos of all of us in my scrap books. Such a trip.
I do t know of your lying but that’s insane
Holy shit that is crazy. I have a connection with one of SWU subjects, but that story is absolutely wild!
I think you would have been a better interviewee. Maybe reach out to the channel?
WOW.
It's been roughly 7 YEARS (!!) since she started advertising her much anticipated alleged book. It was in 2018 I first came across her while doing an extensive case study on two serial killers who are now deceased. She had exclusive access/ conducted face-to-face interviews with both men.
To this day (2023), only about five minutes of audio from her purported 100 + hours of interviews have been released. It was interspersed throughout her 2021 docu - series and it was nothing of substance.
The information in the doc was not novel to those already familiar with the case. It's worth noting that much of the information commonly accessible to the general public, such as what can be found on Wikipedia, were omitted from the documentary. Likely due to its extremely disturbing subject matter--- I can understand and sympathize with this executive decision. However.....CONSEQUENTLY, Laura promised to reveal never-before-seen facts and evidence within her upcoming book. Yet, no such information has been disclosed AND the book STILL doesn't have an official release date. Does it exist??? She's been leading people on for YEARS. It's simply unprofessional, ill-advised and in extremely poor taste.
Mark getting an answer out of her was like pulling teeth. She shouldn't have done the interview if she can't answer questions!
One can only assume she's exaggerating her resources and knowledge. It's likely she's milking every press opportunity as she may not have any other source(s) of income.
I stopped following Laura a few years ago, due to my strong frustrations and her various other discrepancies and transgressions. I google her every year or so, HOPING she's FINALLY revealed those long awaited details...only to find painful interviews such as this: filled with an astonishing amount of easily disproven misinformation and where she ultimately divulges... absolutely... nothing.
the book is apparently coming out this fall
@@triputu She previously had a 2021 and a 2022 release date. It's 2023 so I'll believe it when i see it. UNFORTUNATELY, she has stated that the book is ONE of a TRILOGY so it seems like a cash grab. Given her track record, i anticipate the books to be filled with fluff and maybe 2% of facts and details no one previously knew about. Her attention seeking behavior only to GATE KEEP information and her experiences is really obnoxious and unethical at this point.
@@okaywow3486 i agree. have you seen the documentary she did on here with "the disturbing truth" ?? i found it to be underwhelming and quite strange but it does have a small amount of new info.
@@triputu Yes. However that's not a documentary. The content creator "The Disturbing Truth" merely included audio of an interview they presumably did with Laura. That video included a lot of misinformation, which Laura herself later confirmed (this was years ago) was untrue. I wanted to hear more about the cabins in Crystal Lake, and Laura did reveal that Leah and Jackie were taken there - something unknown to most of the public. She had previously stated on social media that Lynette Ledford's body was dumped on the ivy bed for a much more "sinister reason", but she continues to GATE KEEP aforementioned information that she purports to have. Her attempts to get people interested by BAITING them with lurid details about the victims and then not giving away anything is extremely inappropriate.
At the very LEAST she could pay homage to the victims in her media appearances. I can’t be the only one who longs to know more about the lives of these young girls who were lost too soon. These girls deserve recognition beyond being linked to their killers.
There is a podcast I listened to on Spotify that Laura THANKFULLY has ZERO affiliation with called "Killer's Vault", hosted by Elisabeth Rohm and narrated by Eric Roberts. I highly suggest their episode on Bittaker and Norris if you're interested in learning more about them, however be warned as it includes extremely disturbing details. They go into detail about torture which had been omitted from public affidavits and records. This episode provides unprecedented insight into the both of he killers' psychology which is quite impressive.
@@okaywow3486 Yes, I have already listened to that podcast episode. Very informative. Apparently Lynette's body was dumped in front of the house of one of her friends. They followed Lynette and other high school girls home and they knew one of her friends lived there.
"Gentlemen"
What universe am i actually living in
She doesn't sound like a 'researcher' , more of a serial killer fan.
Exactly. When I saw a serial killer researcher was being interviewed on this channel, I immediately knew something must be off with them, and you hit the nail on the head!
Yep. Groupie.
Googling her it doesn’t show her Education or Licenses. It variously describes her as an Author / Investigative Journalist and “The Siren of San Quentin”. Her sex appeal is a piece of the puzzle. Whatever she learned is for the book, the podcasts, the notoriety, not a Scientific Study. She seems to be a devoted Fan of these men and their worlds.
@@raymckigney2118 I agree and her saying she was “destin” to do this job like girl whAt. And the way she’s not giving details about certain situations that mark kept asking about as if it only something she wants to keep to herself as if she’s “special” and nobody can know because it’s between her and the killers 😂
She said she has a partner. I bet it's Merle Allin.
“I’m going to talk for 30 minutes but I’m not going to say anything. I’ll be as general and vague as possible. However, the book will be coming out soon!”
Will the book be as boring as this interview?
The word for today is “ psychopathy” because it was used 100 times!
18m old surviving with dogs in an alley? They are lying through the rest of their teeth to this woman.
She’s a researcher… she didn’t mention her university or who’s funding for her research/work.
Mark: Tell us an interesting story
Her: Oh there are so many…
Her: *tells us none*
Yeah she did that twice in 11 minutes.
Exactly...thank you for pointing that out. I think that was why I just sensed her being arrogant in some way. I was just irritated with this interview. She did not come across as a great academic, even.
She didn’t say anything that your average serial killer enthusiast doesn’t know.
As one who talks with killers everyday at work, there should be a sense of confidentiality that you would maintain with these folks in order to continue with counseling. Maybe that's why she isn't giving up too much info.
then she should not have done the interview
Screw them people have a right to know about theses monsters lurking around our children and women, They should have zero rights and definitely no privacy should be a privilege not a right !
@@okaywow3486 Look for your beloved crime p¨rn somewhere else. You´re on the wrong website, dude. Rgr
Really? Because I thought it was fascinating. I wonder if the people who are complaining have thought about the bigger issues. It was obvious that she couldn't talk about specifics too much, probably for a variety of reasons. However, I thought there were a lot of interesting details.
She was tactful and revealed quite a bit. The work she is doing is so important, thank you for this interview Mark.
For someone who allegedly knows so much I learned so little… I feel like this is a ego boost for her but she doesn’t know that much when it comes down to it
Yes. This is obviously the case in my opinion. She can’t answer the questions eloquently so it means that she doesn’t know much about the subject matter
Know that most move among you, in plain sight, because the more some people think they know, the more protected they think they are. Too much TV, too many so called experts, and the underworld laughs at them. Let's just say I had an interesting childhood /life in general, and I have personally known some 'edgy' folks. I have also known victims, one who was a coworker. This guy killed her mother, doubled back to pick up her daughter , and then killed her with his hands. The next day after I saw them heading to her house, I was told she was killed and I knew it had to be him. On the way ,we were on the same train and we had locked eyes, and I saw inside of him, and when I testified at the trial, we locked eyes again as I told the court it was him. I will never forget the understanding at that moment, when I knew he was gone forever, and he knew it too. I think it's been about 5 men I personally knew that r-ped or murdered someone in cold blood, and about 5 victims. All of this was in the news. I see these kind of men here and there, and we know who we are. I taught my daughters what to look for, my sister and my female friends, who sometimes do not listen. My father was a sociopath, so I learned early on what conditioning was, the effects, and how manipulative/dangerous people move. People get some bad advice and misinformation, and too many women like to argue, threaten, and push buttons, and they need to be way more careful of that. Sometimes being right or thinking you're right, and winning a simple argument or emasculating someone can place you in harm's way. I like this platform because it speaks to me about the kinds of people I have spent a lot of time with,and I will leave it at that..
@@michaels8607 Yes, I agree that trying to educate women about this type of thing falls on deaf ears. They either don’t care or think that they’d be able to spot dangerous predators
she is not very well spoken at ALL, just the way the pronounces various words, she is not very well educated...
Yep. She had nothing to say
She seems very unprepared for this interview. How do you not have memorable stories prepared to share??
Try doing what she does. She doesn't want to share things because you don't want to know. It's very difficult to do this type of work. People think that people who study serial killers are freaks.
I think she is used to being the interviewer, not the interviewed.
I believe she has a book coming out? Maybe.. just started the video.
And how can you say such a stupid thing like "they don`t have serial killers in Europe"?
I wondered the same thing
As someone who has worked as a mental health at a level 4 California prison and interviewed my share of murders and predators I have my suspicions about her. For example, she talks about having easy access to high profile inmates but in California inmates are seen as dependents, you do not get easy access to them. You do not just show up to see them. Secondly, her story of a profiler becoming startled by an inmate but she is not fazed by the similar comments does not make sense. Also, how is she vague with her stories despite "thousands of hours" of contact?
She said plenty, if you want graphic detailed descriptions of victimization and murder….. there’s plenty of other channels and places where you can find that.
Don’t judge and try to forgive her for being a regular boring human that spends so much time in the sewers she doesn’t or hasn’t learned to enjoy carrying around and spreading the feces for points or clout.
I also respect her and thank her on behalf of all the ppl who have lost a loved one to any violent killer and had to identify what’s left ….. famous, serial or not. 🙄
when you notice the questions far more than the answers...something is missing
She actually said it like she believed it, but no way does an 18 month year old baby survive 6 months in a back alley with a pack of dogs! 🤣🤣
Mark interviewed a forensic RN who collects sexual assault evidence, her youngest victim of rape that killed her ? 34 days. I would like this reality to be invented, but it's not.
She is more than a little suspect.
EDIT - ok so I googled her since Mark essentially told us nothing about her and she didn't volunteer it. Turns out she has no academic background whatsoever in this field and no professional experience either unless you call 'private investigator' a profession I guess.
Bur certainly nothing in academia in criminology or in a specialist unit within an LEA.
She does mention an interest in forensics in her bio but appears to have no academic qualifications or professional experience in forensics either. Maybe she has a black light at home though🙄
She tweets that quote "true crime is not a hobby ..it's a lifestyle"
I'm sure the parents of the kids that were murdered find all this equally entertaining 😔
Anyway seems all this and other CZcams interviews she's doing currently are just promotion for a book she is flogging soon.
Maybe Mark can get us a yoga teacher to talk quantum physics next time, or someone equally well qualified.
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I wonder how "fascinating" they would be if one of them had murdered her kid or someone she cared about.
I actually have no idea who this woman is since Mark didn't seem to think it important to ask her at the start or to share that with us if he knows. I gave up watching after 15 minutes as it was so frustrating to listen to and not knowing who she was or anything about her professional experience and academic record in this area made it seem utterly pointless to me.
But I do really feel uncomfortable how much we have turned all this into little more than entertainment, with the killers the stars, basically celebraties. Whereas the victims are barely talked about at all.
"True crime' CZcamsrs I find are especially awful, just monetizing family tragedies,,but Netflix etc are little better its all just entertainment at the end of the day to them.
yup, spot on
Agreed 100%!
Mark asked all the questions, and she barely answered. We all know most Serial Killers had bad childhoods/ absent father/overbearing Mother.
got any proof of this? Or you just like... saying shit.... and acting like it's the truth, and expecting people to believe you?
I was kind of disappointed in this interview also. I don’t really know what I was expecting but definitely more.
@@Broskisnowski
What’s the point of the interview then? She said she could discuss the ones who are dead.
Agreee. I feel like I got nothing out of this
They're all from small towns. Like Los Angeles.
Thank you for sharing Laura & Mark ! ❤
I felt this interview kind of odd, and now reading the coments I wasn't wrong. The interviwer kept on pushing the questions it wasn't flowy, Mark did the best he could.
Children who don't talk until 6 years old can be extremely intelligent. They are the type that observes and thinks and communicates without words but feelings.
I love that she is trying to help recover victims who everyone but their families have forgotten.
Yes. A lady named Lauren interviewed Sam Little and said the same thing about all of his victims. Sam did drawings on his victims. She has them to look at and wonder who they are. Incredibly sad for the families.
I wonder if that ever helps the "spirit" of the victim?
yeah I guess I never knew before that once they are sentenced the case is basically closed. that must be SO hard for some of those families to not ever get that kind of closure. it is really heartfelt that she is trying to help those families.
What .... wait till he gets out and moves next door to you
So ironic she says multiple times she has so many stories she could tell and then multiple times has trouble being able to think of one
"What's the meaning of life?" "Yeah"
It was tough getting her to expand on her answers
Having information is one thing, being able to convey that information is a much different skill set. That’s why there are good teachers and bad teachers. If she got some training, she could be a fantastic speaker.
Imagine being the interviewee and reading all of these comments. That would be heart breaking. Not everyone is good at speaking or interviewing! Even if you didn’t get satisfaction in watching her, show some respect.
Sorry, but something is very off about her.
Do you think the comments would be the same if it was a fat man with a beer can telling the same things?? Nope. Rgr
I didn’t think that at all. I found there were obvious lead on questions the interviewer could have asked and seem distracted. It’s up to him to lead her in and he didn’t do it.
I learned how to be prepared for an interview from this interview.
Now this is my cup of tea
Agree!
It's my jam too!
Oh yes
I’m just happy we are the majority for this video! 😂😂
Fuckin right. I'd take a big sip
Gosh, I’ve got so many stories… says nothing
Yup ! not interesting at all .
Wow. This woman, Laura Brandd, is quite impressive. Blessings to her on her journey through this maze of psychopathy, darkness and relative evil. I hope she does not internalize the 'darkness,' and finds ways to maintain her inner balance and her connection to the LIGHT 🌟☮💞
I just watched your interview with an antinatalist and was immediately struck when Laura Brand talked about childhood neglect as a common thread among serial killers. We need society to understand that parenthood is really hard and it's not for everyone. If you have doubts about your ability to raise a child, _don't have any._
I usually say there´s a "Drivers licence" to parenthood. Also for marriage. Also for socializing. Also for... Meaning there´s a good preparation to be had beforehand. Or there should be.... Rgr
@@borano2031 It's interesting that you need a license to fish, hunt, drive, be a cosmetologist, etc. but there is no license needed to have children! People should at least have to take a class or two to prepare for the most important job in the world.
Very surface level, seems very ingenuine
Chemical castration does not always work. You interviewed someone two days ago who said it did not work on his father
Can't be absolute. Not everyone is exactly like the other. Maybe his chemical make up was atypical.
I am also fascinated by the psychology of serial killers. During college crim courses (early 80s), the prof took us to CMF-Vacaville where we met an inmate known for his genius I.Q. & his work reading books onto tape for the visually disabled, students, mostly. Only after we left did we learn his identity: Edmund Kemper, the "co-ed killer" of the 1970s. He's still alive, still at Vacaville. He had also turned himself in. An FBI agent & very early "profiler" (Robert Ressler) interviewed him (see Whoever Fights Monsters). He writes of a time during an interview with Kemper when the dinner bell rang & all the guards were tasked with getting the inmates to the food hall, including the guard standing by for Ressler. He writes of the moment when Kemper says "you know i could just reach across this table & snap your neck." I wonder if that's the panic button story she mentions. Note that Kemper pre-dated internet (porn & anything else). Not nearly the tv or movie violence then. Wasn't a drug user. Did tortue small animals as a child & did have mommy issues. One of the most interesting things about this research is just how varied the individual psychology (or psycopathy) is among them.
What a remarkable Lady. Such strength to do what she does. 👏🏼
Small critique of this interview. The subject matter is interesting, however the interviewee is not a good story teller.
Agree
What a disappointment of an “interview” was like pulling teeth she barely talked and looked uncomfortable. Why even be on this show and why even release this. She mentioned people we never heard off and shared nothing new and no stories. Mark did more talking. What was the point of her doing this ? Clout!
She seemed more interested in indicating how extensive her experience is in gathering information for her book rather than being very open about directly answering his direct questions. It is like she is attempting to establish her “creds” during this interview.
MIND-BLOWING interview! WOW
OMG, she interviewed Lawrence Bittaker. That man was a psychotic monster. He tortured teen girls. One was 15 years old. He audio recorded the torture which was played in the courtroom. People threw up and left the room. He used pliers to pull pieces of the girls body apart...soft areas. She begged him to kill her. He left the body on some poor dudes lawn, naked and shredded. If you want to have a nightmare, look him up.
I tell this to show that may of these psychopaths will NEVER be rehabilitated. They get so much joy and sexual satisfaction from torture and death and that can never be gotten out of them.
Come on lady , 1000s of hours of interviews and not one in depth account ??? Spill it !
You can find more interviews with her on the tube if this one didn't tickle your underbelly.
@@thematriarchy2075lol 😂
She will put it all in her book.
@@thematriarchy2075 does she say anything in them?
Remember, she is usually the interviewer...
I think this interview is less about getting stories about serial killers, and more about her - as an interviewer, as a person starting a very unusual career. Also asking about the specifics to see what hooks into her mind. She does also have a minefield in her head to dance through - what she can share legally, what may be still embargoed by law enforcement activities, what is bound by contractual obligations, protecting her ability to continue her work by being professional and discrete. Etc. It cant be easy from her perspective.
Great interview! It’s nice you’re shedding light on this aspect of things.
Um, no disrespect, but when someone tells you they were abandoned at 18 months and survived living with stray dogs for six months, you might want to question the truthfulness of that person or at least seek some corroborative evidence. Something that sensational certainly would have garnered the attention of authorities and the media. Most psychopaths being charming also includes that they are skillful and unrepentant liars. Btw, there are strong differences between Serial Killers, Mass Murderers and Spree Killers (most mass shooters fall under the "spree" category).
She nailed it about having family, togetherness, and community. In US after a certain age, no one communicates with cousin, uncles, aunts on regular basis. Hell, even with parents and siblings. It’s a very ISOLATED SOCIETY, lots of self centered mentality. In many countries, families are extremely tight, and communication is on daily basis.
You can blame the destruction of ethnic neighborhoods in post WW2 America, destroyed by design.
I'm 29 and I live in New York. I don't speak to any of my family on a daily basis except for my mom and even then, that's about once a week, give or take. I rarely attend family gatherings, but my personality is more reserved, so I'm kind of the odd one out in that regard.
I work 72-96 hours in the week to support myself and I come from a single family household. Life has never been easy, but I know people who were spoiled and they're worse off and drug addicted. It's a sad situation for sure, and many aren't aware of the issues in this country and feel the need to travel to better the world, not realizing the problems right in front of us.
You can say that about people in any geographic locale.
This is a very sad time in America now. I'm old to young people. But I was raised in detroit, MI in 50s and 60s. We had a fabulous, wonderful family life back then. Lonely society now due to technology. The rise of the Internet has ruined society, especially young people
People grow up, get jobs, get married, have babies. It's not that people don't want to stay in touch, there's just not enough hours in the day.
If someone is a serial killer i don't want rehabilitation for them. I dont want any chance of them getting out .... ever
I enjoyed this interview with you very much, Laura! Keep up the hard work in helping society in this way.
She’s not telling the whole story. She comes off more like a enthusiast than an expert.
I'm writing a book about this specific subject.
Mark: Tell me an interesting story.
I'm trying to think of one.
Yeah I know that was really awkward it makes you think she's making the whole thing up. It's possible lol. No one's verifying these people stories are they?
I found this person shared a lot of very insightful information about cause and effect and how the system fails them and the community. Thanks, Mark.
She even claims to be a forensic psychologist on her Twitter/X account. And doubles down on that in this interview saying “it was like a forensic psychologist dream” implying that’s what she is.
Something is off with her
I was thinking exactly the same thing . instinctively it’s off .
YES! Her reluctance to elaborate on Mark's questions is weird for someone being asked about their profession in an interview that I'm assuming she attended voluntarily. SHh is bizarrely reserved. Most professionals would have lots to share, and it's not a privacy issue, she could talk about her experience in a generic way, or anything else having to do with her work without breaking any privacy laws. Instead she offers pat answers with that mm-hmm & nodding at the end, as if she's trying to fill the nothingness she's just created. She reminds me of a hustler, aka con artist.
She’s intelligent but not well spoken. She is nervous to be interviewed.
The reaon why there may be less violent criminals in Europe, specifically in Germany for example comes down to health care available to everyone. Your interviewee said one of her serial killers was left to live on the street under the age of 2. This scenerio is highly unlikely in a country where there is access to healthcare and family services for everyone. No one would turn their back on a 2 year old living on the street here in Germany. Second, there is a strong youth support system the first step of which is the child sevices authority or JugendAmt, but this support system offers much more than foster care. This you cannot find in any state in the US currently. There are special schools for all learning and developmental issues including group homes, apprenticeships, therapy programs both in patient and out patient. Even towns as small as 5,000 people have access to a large array of services that simply do not exist in the US. Non-profit organizations such as Lebenshilfe, Caritas, and Diakonie exist in every county in every bundesland in Germany. The current US system does not have these resources.
Or there’s no California in Europe
Reading this made me think I might be happier living in Europe because people might not be so cut throat and cold as they seem to be in the USA
No gun nut Trump supporters
@@saywhatithink5006no trumptards
Whole thing don’t ring right
The people saying she isn’t forthcoming, you fail miserably to understand, she is a listener, it’s a perfect trait for her profession… good talkers tend to be bad listeners..
i pick up on it right away, that’s the difference between us, and you.. hopefully it makes sense
This was mind blowing. Great job
Laura does not speak, carry herself or dress like an educated professional who "conducting long range research" and some of the information she gives (for example, the difference between psychopath and sociopath) just isn't scientifically supported. She may be aiming to write a sensationalistic soft cover detailing crimes and gore, but this whole interview Just. Feels. Off.
Yeah I was thinking the same....can't quite put my finger on it but I get odd vibes from her. Perhaps she has a basement dungeon full of victims strung up this very moment. Or maybe I've just watched too much true crime. But I've known some crazy and incredibly deceptive people who have done bad things...something about her reminds me of them
She seems to enjoy the thrill too much
Agreed, she is not a good communicater, nor can she explain anything clearly. Bad interview, too much air in the conversation.
She’s one of those weirdos that’s attracted to serial killers, that’s why she doesn’t know any actual information or facts.
I agree with everyone here. I only got about 3 minutes in and had to scroll down to see if anyone noticed how strange she is. Something's definitely not right here.
she refuses to give any interesting information like she is protecting someone
i recognized her from the toolbox killer stuff .. i cant wait to listen to this when i have time
This msg is for the woman being interviewed. Thank you for allowing Mark to ask questions about your work and study.
You mentioned writing a book, and in the event that your book does well there will most likely be a press tour or meet and greet etc. Before doing that, and before speaking with the public at all, I strongly encourage you to take some classes on how to publicly speak.
This interview was borderline cringy to watch as the answers were too short or while she was speaking her answers tap danced around without ever saying much of anything let alone answering any of Mark's questions. 😢
Mark...thank you for your production and being so gentle while you painstakingly pulled teeth from this woman while her mouth remained closed for most of this interview. Not literally of course.
Much love❤❤❤--from Alaska
Just FYI, but HIPAA confidentiality regulations make clear that client/patient privacy doesn't end upon death.
I was excited about this one but it seems that she's watched Mindhunter a couple of times and all her information comes from that. Like she doesn't really know her stuff. People who know their stuff tend to answer questions not by yes/no but go deeper and tell us things we don't know. She seems intimidated by the questions and unprepared to answer them. Somebody who's been doing this for so long, would keep going on and on.. Also how does someone who can hardly speak make those serial killers confess things to her? I don't know, I dont believe she is who she says she is, she lacks depth and perspective, both of which are earned.
I felt like this could have been one of your best interviews, but I’ve never seen you have to work so hard to get a guest to talk. I wish she would have been more of a storyteller in expressing her stories, but it seemed like this was a hard interview to conduct.
This interview should’ve been 2 parts hour and a half total. Love your work and I’ve been binging your stuff.
Hey wow I know this woman, went to HS with her in Mass altho was much closer to her brother. I had heard about her career and seems like she’s doing some good work. Been watching this channel for a few years on and off so it’s a trip to see someone I actually know on here. Hope her family and her brother are doing well.
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Serial killers are manipulative and liars. No 18 month old baby could have survived for 6 months in a back alley with feral dogs.
If questions weren't asked I think she'd just sit there and not say anything.
her: yeah.....
I was excited to hear but still looking for it…
Thank you for the work you are doing. It’s highly important both of you
Congratulations to Mark for being such a good interviewer and knowing which questions to ask to keep the interview moving
Really??? It's the job of the interviewer to make their subject open up. He failed to do that.
Mark didn't even ask her about her education and where she works now. On many occasions, her descriptions and colloquialisms were so simple and unqualified that they needed follow-up questions (e.g., the statement that chemical castration definitely works - that's absolutely NOT the case; and that police and psychiatrists in Europe are "light years ahead" in their research - also, absolutely NOT true. Police in every European country regularly consults with FBI because FBI started their research into SK decades earlier and assembled far more information).
And, those awkward pauses after every sentence, uhhhh. This as painful to watch.
He has to research his subjects prior to the interview, and ask them difficult questions that actually produce a cohesive story. This was not done.
@@katemangos1705 I have to agree at least to the extent that he probably should have just discarded the whole interview. I would be shocked to find out that she isn't in fact a complete fake. Shame on Mark for doing this and not doing any kind of pre-interview. I know you want it raw and uncensored, but you want to at least ensure that there is water in the pool before diving in.
Ι feel like she wanted to talk more about herself as a person than her area of research. Her knowledge in the subject did not exceed the knowledge most people who watch serial killer related shows have. She was not comfortable answering questions, which is probably uncommon for a prof interviewer. What's her education again? Cause she sounded like a serial killer fan not a serial killer researcher.
I knew there had to be more than a fascination of novels that her father used to read to her when she was young, and at 23:00 minutes in, she reals an awful experience that she had. Keep up the good work Laura.
Very difficult to get visitor passes unless prisoner allows. And the time is at least six weeks. Then the individual must be have Clearance, that takes another amount of time. Phone calls made to neighbors even elementary teachers. My experience because my son worked at a prison and I wanted to attend the xmas parties he hosted for prisoners and their families. Huge deal. Can't believe she networks with other serial killers to get personal passes. Doesn't ring true
Sorry considering her claims and knowledge her insights were void of interest, fascination or intellect. I apologize for the indifference but this is the first interview I cut early. I’m a huge follower and this channel makes social media worthwhile for me.
This is well worded and exactly how I felt.
She was not as easy to interview as the divorce lawyer who launched into almost a lengthy soliloquy. Since my time as a prosecutor, serial killers have fascinated me. I bet her book will be a bestseller if it's not an overly technical treatise. I wish she had talked more about the co-occurring diagnoses and whether psychotropic drugs help any. I had read injuries to the frontal lobe could contribute because the ability to control impulsive behavior is compromised...maybe that has been discounted. Perhaps she will collaborate with a creative screenplay writer and give us a fascinating movie. Thanks for the interview!
So true, I was going to mention that as well. Head injuries play such a big part in many of these cases from early childhood I have read! Many times the brain has not been able to recover. That is very sad. Meanwhile, I am someone who is still recovering from falling over my dog in a dark hallway two yrs. ago with an awful concussion and eighteen stitches. I broke my eye bone and still have a bump over my eyebrow. My poor husband had to rush me to the ER and I had blood gushing from my head. Be careful dog owners, it happens a lot the doc. told me.
These are great. I would love these as a podcast (that i can listen to out and about)!
loved this interview. fascinating.