Knee shows what TOP 5 gameplay looks like - Knee (Noctis) vs. SuperHwoarang Tekken 7

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  • čas přidán 27. 04. 2023
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Komentáře • 108

  • @Momo-Dog
    @Momo-Dog Před rokem +19

    Wisdom of the day;
    Optimal combos are no good if you don't know how to get your opponent launched, they're just a means of getting more reward for outplaying someone. The latter part will always be more important 👍

  • @1991jj
    @1991jj Před rokem +115

    It's such a good point about how knees combos aren't optimal. Gawd tier gameplay really sees combos as a secondary concern since it's the easiest aspect of the game. What I learn from this is that combo knowledge doesnt win sets if you have s tier fundamentals and knowledge.

    • @Jacev_
      @Jacev_ Před rokem +31

      Absolutely. In my region, there are guys that train for combo optimization as a primary tool for their offense and they struggle mightily against players like myself and top players where our primary form of offense is based on fundamentals.
      Don't get me wrong, combo optimization has it's place and it can be the difference between giving your opponent that sliver of health that allows them to mount a comeback and death. But I almost never worry about hitting combos in a match and I let the flow of the match determine when to go for a launcher etc.

    • @la7042
      @la7042 Před rokem +3

      @@Jacev_ such a great comment bro, you made me think about my gameplan

    • @rubberducky1356
      @rubberducky1356 Před rokem +8

      I think a more important skill than optimization is capitalization. Knee ended up getting a float combo from a jab and capitalized off of that by doing 4-6 jabs/ d/f+1s, into a screw, into the ender. The most basic launch, filler, screw, ender formula imaginable. There are other similar situations which occur all the time, such as random counter hits, random low parries, random punishes, etc. Being ready for unexpected situations and having both the knowledge and ability to capitalize well off of them will take one way further than knowing a combo or 2.

    • @wheresmyshield176
      @wheresmyshield176 Před rokem +1

      Combos can win games, not combo damage. How you choose to take your combo route to setup better oki and potentially relaunch is a big part of winning. As well as wall placement, etc.

    • @HumbleHurricane
      @HumbleHurricane Před rokem +7

      W for the mindset in these comments

  • @aznkiller722
    @aznkiller722 Před rokem +21

    please keep doing these analysis videos. it's so cool to see a pros point of understanding.

  • @kerkkokuokkanen1893
    @kerkkokuokkanen1893 Před rokem +15

    Very very good commentary. Good work!

  • @HumbleHurricane
    @HumbleHurricane Před rokem

    Awesome breakdown my guy. Much appreciated 🙏🏿

  • @yusufgetsit
    @yusufgetsit Před rokem +3

    Really cool info, thank you!

  • @joshpokeninja
    @joshpokeninja Před rokem

    Appreciate you uploading this I am having so much trouble in this matchup and you breaking down the frame data and openings really gave me some insight on how to change my approach!!

  • @ahmadhabib1493
    @ahmadhabib1493 Před rokem

    Really amazing commentary and game jargen. will love to see more analysis.

  • @aFutureSelf
    @aFutureSelf Před rokem +1

    You need to do this for a lot of the matchups or tournament play. I thunk your analysis would help people understand the game a lot better at these levels

  • @SilversTaurus
    @SilversTaurus Před rokem +4

    14:00 That is health robbery right there

  • @DeadLock247
    @DeadLock247 Před rokem +1

    Man your explations of tekken games are very good

  • @Bboy_DXT_Breakdance_FGC
    @Bboy_DXT_Breakdance_FGC Před rokem +7

    thanks for the insight and knowledge. Noctis is when i started Tekken so its cool to see high level gameplay cuz i am pretty basic with him and this was very useful.. subbed and liked! keep up the great work, bout to use Noctis in ranked right now.

  • @kadinnui2282
    @kadinnui2282 Před 6 měsíci

    Do you guys have a link to the original video?

  • @TheKingOfRuckus
    @TheKingOfRuckus Před rokem +4

    This was very entertaining and informative; good commentary!

  • @iskandar1510
    @iskandar1510 Před rokem

    Hi. Trying to learn noctis . What are his normal neutral move 😊 thanks.

  • @lmyourpapiGaming
    @lmyourpapiGaming Před rokem

    what are your thoughts about CBM?

  • @lifelesscorpse7365
    @lifelesscorpse7365 Před rokem

    Hey sir can you link the original video?

  • @thecpu3949
    @thecpu3949 Před rokem +2

    Amazing commentary Phi! Do you think there is a reason for Knee to ever pick Noctis in major tournaments?

    • @PhiDX
      @PhiDX  Před rokem +7

      Not really, since Feng has much more flexibility and isn't lacking damage anymore

  • @stephenjohnson8513
    @stephenjohnson8513 Před rokem +5

    Someone send this to main man swe he wanted to know why knee thought noct was top 5

  • @SMBShippuden4
    @SMBShippuden4 Před rokem

    Super Hwoarang is one of my favorite players. His online Rank Matches from Tekken Tag 2 are definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen them already.

  • @BakedConjurer5
    @BakedConjurer5 Před rokem +1

    OH MAN this just makes me wanna main noctis rn

  • @edwikim99
    @edwikim99 Před rokem +1

    Great video. One thing I've noticed about EU/NA players and streamers is that they think down back 2 is the best move that Noctis has. However, many people in Korea would say "Chidori (back 2)" is the best move for Noctis.

  • @Yokoso-kj7ij
    @Yokoso-kj7ij Před rokem +5

    One of the best to analyse Tekken, thanks man.

  • @chucklos391
    @chucklos391 Před rokem +5

    I’ve been a Noctis main for a long time. 20k wins in Quick Match and ranked purple. Probably more light blue rank these days, but I don’t really play Rank much. Love this character and I’ve been watching you PhiDX, CBM, Jyotaro, MOMO Dog as my favorite Noctis players in the world. Love seeing Knee show what our Noctis can do. If only Noctis had one more good low…

    • @zayne50
      @zayne50 Před rokem

      Im a green rank noctis on ps4, do you wanna play some sets sometime?

    • @HeySeanold
      @HeySeanold Před rokem +4

      Noctis doesn’t need a good low, he has really strong mid

    • @chucklos391
      @chucklos391 Před rokem

      @@zayne50 Haha! I'm only on PC. Don't even have a console.

  • @cazimim3375
    @cazimim3375 Před rokem

    im gunna try to catch u live on s tream

  • @icession4872
    @icession4872 Před rokem

    welp I just bought noctics when tekken 7 was on an random discount and so this video is an treat indeed. only problem is my laptop's hdd died so yeah... can't even do some practice mode to try this lelz

  • @fusxev1230
    @fusxev1230 Před rokem +7

    Another good thing about noctis b2 is that it evades quite a lot of jabs and even some magic 4's.

  • @SuperSoliderXZ
    @SuperSoliderXZ Před rokem

    Excellent video

  • @HeySeanold
    @HeySeanold Před rokem +1

    Why does no one use ss2? I think it’s one of noctis’ strongest moves

  • @marselluswallace2175
    @marselluswallace2175 Před rokem +2

    You're doing the Lord's work with thess breakdowns.

  • @aZ1d
    @aZ1d Před rokem

    Yo PhiDX this video helped me immensly. Please do more of these analysis videos of our lord and savior Knee!

  • @giotenji
    @giotenji Před rokem +1

    Knee may have shown us top 5 Noctis, but you top 1 Noctis in my books 👊 Grats on your win against Arslan!

  • @vivitarax
    @vivitarax Před rokem

    You doing tricks on it

  • @Roientica
    @Roientica Před rokem

    무릎님의 녹티스 ?͙ 이건 귀하네요

  • @sanzosan9123
    @sanzosan9123 Před rokem

    Couldn’t Hworoang solve that Noctis d/b3 with a SS or SW? 😅 19:28

    • @PhiDX
      @PhiDX  Před rokem +2

      db3 has really good tracking. Some characters can SWL it, but I don't think Hwo can

    • @sanzosan9123
      @sanzosan9123 Před rokem

      @@PhiDX I have to test it ☺️

  • @RyanStark-sy6xm
    @RyanStark-sy6xm Před rokem

    Knee is sponsored by Porsche 😮

  • @JustN0tMe
    @JustN0tMe Před 9 měsíci

    11:38 This is just funny to me😅

  • @sebastianpenales2861
    @sebastianpenales2861 Před rokem +1

    Ok now I'm Noctis main

  • @GGun1t
    @GGun1t Před rokem

    Considering Knee’s mentor was MadDogJin, it’s no wonder he knows how to play against Hwoarang better than most

  • @athlon-ry1ju
    @athlon-ry1ju Před rokem

    PLEASE DO MORE OF THESE VIDEOS

  • @londonmaths1557
    @londonmaths1557 Před rokem +1

    knee is one the greatest tekken players period so of course he can pick up any character, coz his fundamentals apply to every character... he plays them as a good tekken player, not a specific character specialist ...i think CBM is an actual noctis specialist

  • @jclarke90
    @jclarke90 Před rokem +1

    Could Kunimitsu play this same game ?

    • @PhiDX
      @PhiDX  Před rokem +5

      She functions differently, preferring to use her movement more than her hitboxes

    • @jclarke90
      @jclarke90 Před rokem

      @@PhiDX that’s what I thought

    • @jclarke90
      @jclarke90 Před rokem

      @@PhiDX I love these methodical case study videos on how to anti characters could you do more bro ?

  • @douvsun9763
    @douvsun9763 Před rokem +1

    Hi PhiDX! Do you think will Noctis join Tekken8? I really wanna see him back in 8 😢

    • @Bboy_DXT_Breakdance_FGC
      @Bboy_DXT_Breakdance_FGC Před rokem

      i hope so

    • @PhiDX
      @PhiDX  Před rokem +5

      I'd say zero chance unfortunately

    • @kray7920
      @kray7920 Před rokem +1

      Why would they add the most unimportant FF character for tekken 8 again that's just copium

    • @Squidward-jv7go
      @Squidward-jv7go Před rokem

      @@kray7920
      “Most unimportant character in FF” yeah sure buddy. Just because he isn’t Cloud or Tifa he isn’t important to YOU I guess…

    • @kray7920
      @kray7920 Před rokem +1

      @@Squidward-jv7go ok well you can be offended over the unimportant comment but if you think this guy has even a 1 percent chance of coming back it's just copium the only reason it wasn't someone like cloud getting added is simply because ff xv came out around that time

  • @TheSidekickking
    @TheSidekickking Před rokem +1

    lol i said this countless times, there is no such thing as top tier or low tier. at first no one didn't know how good is feng until someone use him really good. and now its the same thing with noctis. seem like every character knee use and did good, its now a top 5 lmaoo. i really wanna see knee use eddy and lets see what yall say.

  • @strayzzfaxz6740
    @strayzzfaxz6740 Před rokem

    So basically all i need to do is spam low risk chipping lows ok

  • @Relax-lf5qw
    @Relax-lf5qw Před rokem

    Watching this vid and your gr8 frames lesson assured me i ll never b a pro 😢😢😢😂😂😅😅

  • @CharlieMarno100
    @CharlieMarno100 Před rokem

    Nice.

  • @tempest-2124
    @tempest-2124 Před rokem

    watching this vid makes me want to pocket noctis lol. good shit

  • @grzib
    @grzib Před rokem

    Yo PhidX

  • @cameronholloway5063
    @cameronholloway5063 Před rokem

    Lack of 'middle" pokes...careful with tier

  • @MaskedGuyCh
    @MaskedGuyCh Před rokem +1

    Man, Noctis's b2 is a move I wish any of my mains had. Safe 14f fast mid that does a chunky 37 damage and gives you +6. Very spammable because there's little to no risk. Oh and it can evade mids sometimes 24:02 lol
    What a great move.

  • @princetonvalera4670
    @princetonvalera4670 Před rokem +6

    The player that made Noctis look TOP 5 in my eyes is you.

  • @EraseTime
    @EraseTime Před rokem

    Ok now use DB3 when i pick Claudio lol

  • @strikemist
    @strikemist Před rokem

    pog

  • @lmntsgames3848
    @lmntsgames3848 Před rokem +1

    Who is missing that time when d2 spear was such a menace that's basically all you need to do as Noctis..?

  • @frankspassion
    @frankspassion Před rokem

    Tekken is about 3 things,
    Knowledge of character
    Reads
    And executing the combos you practiced during windows to strike/counter

  • @Chororoar
    @Chororoar Před rokem +1

    How are you gonna react to these videos and not even post the source or the link to the original video.

  • @doomergoythehammer3020
    @doomergoythehammer3020 Před rokem +1

    I could watch Hwoarang players lose all day 😊

  • @jandipopo_art2012
    @jandipopo_art2012 Před rokem

    i think this just shows how a menace knee is when it comes to tekken, if youre this aware of the match up, you can really just use anyone. lmao

  • @byzon2good919
    @byzon2good919 Před rokem

    poking god

  • @SilversTaurus
    @SilversTaurus Před rokem +7

    The amount of db3 is disgusting

    • @Ryanarta
      @Ryanarta Před rokem

      normal anakin playstyle

  • @i8ali883
    @i8ali883 Před rokem +1

    Knee is wrong

  • @danielspencer9380
    @danielspencer9380 Před rokem +33

    Would have been leagues better without all the talking

    • @AcroGrade
      @AcroGrade Před rokem +1

      Lel, watch knees video then???? The fuck???

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 Před rokem +5

      The pin of shame or the pin of based?

    • @dvis3653
      @dvis3653 Před rokem

      You would’ve been better if you weren’t black. But here we are

    • @kevinying6334
      @kevinying6334 Před rokem +3

      This dude took out arslan. I want to hear everything he says.

    • @traezaX1
      @traezaX1 Před 9 měsíci

      Like the video is about him explaining why Noctis is top tiered 😂😂🤦🤦🤦

  • @rufusss3294
    @rufusss3294 Před rokem

    too much talking and pausing. let me just watch the games, jesus

  • @rahimkisoor7004
    @rahimkisoor7004 Před rokem

    This analysis is sooo wrong. Nocci, Geese and Akuma need to go ...you like those...go play MK... THIS IS TEKKEN! Btw I demand the return of Beak and Bruce too...never saw a Thai person 7" tall....did any one on Earth!?

  • @keatong8400
    @keatong8400 Před rokem

    Wow, sure is one hell of a knee fan boy here 🙄
    U do realise knee makes mistakes too, right?
    At 16.25, you say knee hits a down jab to punish blocking hwoarang d34 because apparently, "it's really hard to get a launch punish" - yeah right, you do realise that's knee messing up his punish?
    Guess that's a hardcore knee fan boy for you though - apparently Lord Knee can do no wrong 🙄