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  • @jasonhicks3364
    @jasonhicks3364 Před 3 měsíci +33

    Souness 100% right. Squad depths/rotation and more subs, billiard table pitches, no tackling, sport scientists and monitoring, flown on private jets everywhere, all baby sit and coddle the modern player

    • @Cornwall1888
      @Cornwall1888 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Which means they’re better and therefore harder to play against 🥴

    • @jasonhicks3364
      @jasonhicks3364 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Cornwall1888the point is whether he’s right to say he would have found it easier not necessarily about the level

    • @eamano8474
      @eamano8474 Před 3 měsíci

      The competition is much higher nowadays. I mean it's possible someone better from another continent would be in the team ahead of him. He has no idea how good he would be nowadays. Also they pass it sideways because its harder to break lines nowadays

  • @Stewy-xw9fz
    @Stewy-xw9fz Před 3 měsíci +14

    I would watch the Liverpool team in the 1980’s with Ian Rush, John Barnes and Beardsley any day over a ManCity team of today.

    • @eamano8474
      @eamano8474 Před 3 měsíci

      Go back snd watch a few full matches abd you might change your mind. Nostalgia can fool people

  • @jasonreeve3040
    @jasonreeve3040 Před 3 měsíci +9

    In Souness' time, you had West Brom, Aston Villa, Notts Forest, Ipswich (very competitive in European competitions, winning them...)and others as well as the perceived top teams. It was very competitive at that time.

  • @Psalm11950
    @Psalm11950 Před 3 měsíci +35

    Agree with Souness. There were a lot of good technical players back then who'd thrive on todays bowling green pitches

    • @Thesunrisecat
      @Thesunrisecat Před 3 měsíci +1

      A big difference is data and sports science. I'm sure you get way more out of the players now than you did then, so just slotting the two eras together, the modern era wins in a landslide. Provide the advancements in sports science to The 70s and 80s era, it would be more even.

    • @allanfarran364
      @allanfarran364 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Souhness would be red carded every day

    • @dickdiver9614
      @dickdiver9614 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@allanfarran364 He might have but Souness wouldn't have.

    • @santinoalfredo390
      @santinoalfredo390 Před 3 měsíci

      @@dickdiver9614 i hope your proud of yourself for that

    • @dickdiver9614
      @dickdiver9614 Před 3 měsíci

      @santinoalfredo390 And I'm hope "you're " not proud of yourself for that 🙄😁

  • @davidrobinson2776
    @davidrobinson2776 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Souness is spot on. Imagine for a minute what Maradona at his peak would have been like in the modern game. Messi and Ronaldo would have been like Platini and Zico had Maradona played at the same time in history. The protection, pitches, lifestyle, coaching, equipment and diet modern players have is light years ahead of what they had in the 70's and 80's but the players from 35 or 40 years ago did all they did despite it all.

    • @howwwwwyyyyy
      @howwwwwyyyyy Před 3 měsíci

      And he got his leg broken twice, be the end of career for players today

  • @johncrawford610
    @johncrawford610 Před 3 měsíci +47

    People always argue about players from yesteryear not being able to play today. How many of today's players could have made it in the 70s and 80s. I am not a utd fan but George Best would have thought he was playing against 10 year olds on these pitches and not being able to foul him

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci +3

      There are exceptions to the rule. Also I don't think the fitness was as good back then. That is a fact!! George Best was an alcoholic and probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the pace of today's game!! It is much faster nowadays.

    • @michaelegan6037
      @michaelegan6037 Před 3 měsíci

      You are in cookoo land

    • @Weareeverything2023
      @Weareeverything2023 Před 3 měsíci +6

      As an LFC fan I will happily concede George Best suffered awful tackles and physical abuse in EVERY game, todays players would never cope. George always just got up and carried on.
      Of course it is a compliment since there was no other way to stop him.

    • @RegionFly
      @RegionFly Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@Weareeverything2023was at Anfield and few weeks back and got speaking to Roy Evans about George Best (due to my Belfast accent) and he said he played against him once and Best actually thanked him for not fouling him all over the place, Roy replied with “foul you? I can’t get bloody near you!” Cracked me up

    • @Weareeverything2023
      @Weareeverything2023 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@RegionFly Sounds like Roy lol.

  • @gmtime5439
    @gmtime5439 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Imagine never having played at the top level and feeling like you know more than a man who’s achieved everything at club level.

  • @steerj07
    @steerj07 Před 3 měsíci +113

    He's not wrong. People wrongly think the league is stronger these days or 'more competitive' when it clearly isn't. In the 90's, 75-80 points being enough to win you the league was a clear indicator that the gap between the top and 'lesser' teams was smaller, therefore more competitive.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci +47

      More competitive doesn’t mean quality tho. Two bums fighting in an alley can be competitive, it doesn’t mean it’s high quality tho

    • @ramps2402
      @ramps2402 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@tevildo45 Except it was still of a very high standard.

    • @Olympiamaniac
      @Olympiamaniac Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@tevildo45 what people define as quality is different. Now creative players are very few and far between, players are now drilled to pass and move on repeat from a young age. You had way more creative flair players in previous gen’s and goal highlights used to be much better also.

    • @DJeMo
      @DJeMo Před 3 měsíci +3

      Men were alot more vicious through competitiveness he is spot on, if he wasn't sent off for the first few engagements todays game would love players like souness Keane makalele, those that wish to sit and play... gold to the game regardless of generation

    • @Olympiamaniac
      @Olympiamaniac Před 3 měsíci +2

      The problem is teams are trying to copy Man City and beat them at there own game instead of exploiting weakness and playing to their own strengths. It’s all copy cat now pass move. It’s like trying to brawl with prime Mike Tyson

  • @sbanetaylor5323
    @sbanetaylor5323 Před 3 měsíci +9

    There was football before the premier league

  • @jackdominiak445
    @jackdominiak445 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Souness was mega in the 80's, he would be even bigger in todays game!

  • @matthewobrien5348
    @matthewobrien5348 Před 3 měsíci +62

    Anyone who has played a decent level and has seen Souness play (with either foot) knows he would absolutely breeze it in today’s game. The guy was a serious baller. END OF.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Seen him play a lot and he wouldn’t cut it in today’s game it’s too fast for him. This is a fact and you know it

    • @masterfulsky
      @masterfulsky Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@tevildo45 but todays football is slower

    • @ZzzZzz968
      @ZzzZzz968 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@tevildo45the pitches were horrendous when souness was playing . Today they play on green carpets with 5 subs . Souness in midfield today would be a 100 million pound player

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@masterfulskyit really isn't though. Souness didn't play against West African footballers on a regular basis lol. You telling me the guys in his day were faster than the likes of sadio Mane etc? No chnace

    • @docholiday-lm4vf
      @docholiday-lm4vf Před 3 měsíci +7

      @tev 😂😂😂 mate the. Est players make the ball donthe work
      Scholes, alonso, pirlo, modric, xavi etc all slow…..
      You are cluless

  • @jaypenfold490
    @jaypenfold490 Před 3 měsíci +33

    Stanley mathews played until he was 50 and won the ballan dor at 41

    • @jamesw2546
      @jamesw2546 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Players of thst era covered 3-5k a game today its 9-11k a game

  • @rhysjaggar4677
    @rhysjaggar4677 Před 3 měsíci +54

    What's all this nonsense about Utd being Liverpool's only competitor in the 1980s? Everton, Villa, Forest were far bigger competitors back then.

    • @agentancelotti2985
      @agentancelotti2985 Před 3 měsíci +10

      He was probably born in the last 20 years youth of today

    • @lonelyboy1977
      @lonelyboy1977 Před 3 měsíci +10

      I literally laughed out loud at that assertion. It clearly came from a modern day fanboy who only started watching football this century.

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_MD.
      @Mantis_Toboggan_MD. Před 3 měsíci +9

      Indeed.
      Everton won the league twice & also a European trophy in the midst of Liverpool's heyday. Man Utd never achieved either

    • @DC_92
      @DC_92 Před 3 měsíci +2

      As a Utd fan this is true.

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@DC_92 it’s true no matter who you support. It’s all a matter of record.

  • @dude9038
    @dude9038 Před 3 měsíci +13

    The modern game is tailor made for teams like Man City. No 'real' tackling allowed, defenders terrified of making any contact in or near the box. The slightest tug or even touch and if the player with the ball decides to collapse like he's been shot by a sniper then a free kick is given 90% of the time. That didn't happen in the 70's even up to the early 2000's, it was a contact sport and you needed big strong tough players in defence and holding midfield. Now super fast agile players are afforded the luxury of being able to dribble freely and pass and move most of the time due to the players on the defence trying their best not to give away any silly fowls. The modern game has been injected with ballet

    • @phil5357
      @phil5357 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Defenders nowadays having to tackle with their hands behind their backs pretty much sums up the mess football is today.
      It isn't a man's game anymore. As in, physically tough. Players get free kicks for anything now. Embarrassing watching some of these so-called men playing nowadays

  • @riccardobrogelli3550
    @riccardobrogelli3550 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Most of today's midfielders would go off on a stretcher if the Souness of old even looked at them

  • @nogginnogg1788
    @nogginnogg1788 Před 3 měsíci +8

    I can almost guarantee that sideways passing was called “Doing a Ray Wilkins.” God rest his soul, but Ron Atkinson didn’t nickname him “The Crab”, for nothing.

    • @johnnyrocker7495
      @johnnyrocker7495 Před 3 měsíci +1

      100% correct.

    • @Andy-co6pn
      @Andy-co6pn Před 14 dny

      Can't have done him much harm , played for Chelsea, Man Utd, Milan, PSG and I think Souness signed him for Rangers ?

  • @donaldcampbell8997
    @donaldcampbell8997 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Graeme at his peak on todays pitches? that would be a sight.

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Would defo make it easier to make a clean back pass to the goalie

  • @rvp589
    @rvp589 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Souness is spot on correct... pitches were a lot worse than today... a foul was only given if you broke your leg... today's football is like our six a side tournaments that we played for a bit of fun..
    You would be hard pressed to name any of today's players that had the drive.. determination.. and skill of the likes of souness keano or Robbo... these guys could win hard tackles get up with the ball and drive the team forward.
    The football then may not have been so easy on the eye... but generally you had two teams going at it trying to win.... certainly more exciting to watch back then.
    Take a look at the classic clip of Bestie goal against Chelsea when chopper Harris tried taking him out at the knee... the pitch wouldn't be played on today... The forward would have collapsed and rolled around and chopper would be off...Don't think he even got booked.

  • @eddiedunn8061
    @eddiedunn8061 Před 3 měsíci +38

    Everton fan here. Souness is right, he was a complete midfielder, a Rolls Royce, even though he was a b*****d !

    • @user-xd7eh4if6b
      @user-xd7eh4if6b Před 3 měsíci +1

      Poor player. Would get bullied off the park today

  • @Phuqarf
    @Phuqarf Před 3 měsíci +5

    The trouble is, you have yuppies who have only been into football for 10 years and have only watched PL football in their lives and they think they’re experts and more knowledgeable than people who have played the game.

  • @nogginnogg1788
    @nogginnogg1788 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Souness had everything the modern day midfielder has and more because he was aggressive and could tackle. The only doubt about him playing in today’s top flight is whether he could stay on the pitch now that tackling is outlawed.

  • @michaeldoherty4221
    @michaeldoherty4221 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I am glad i am 52, to able to jave watched Graham and all the other greats of his generation play.
    They absolutely were class footballers. He stands head and shoulders above most midfielders in my life time.

  • @Olympiamaniac
    @Olympiamaniac Před 3 měsíci +79

    You can’t compare generations but the reality is it’s all relative. The players in Graeme’s day would be premier league players today, they had the talent and personality, they would adjust to the modern day.

    • @Nando84709
      @Nando84709 Před 3 měsíci +3

      🔔 end 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

    • @scotty90
      @scotty90 Před 3 měsíci +19

      ​@@Nando84709not being funny, if you can't write a sentence pushing back with an argument instead of saying 🔔 end.

    • @alzer6467
      @alzer6467 Před 3 měsíci +6

      That's somewhat true as older players could adjust to improved tactics, speed and fitness. However what has improved 100 times over is scouting data. There's a massive increase in the amount of players from around the world....Souness was never competing for a place with the best African, South American players that never made it out of their hometowns in his era.
      The competition for places is way higher now as every club are scouring the world for the next 6 year old Messi.

    • @Nando84709
      @Nando84709 Před 3 měsíci

      @@scotty90 yea F grammar your clearly in a hurry 🤣

    • @scotty90
      @scotty90 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Nando84709 you literally don't use grammar, you come across thicker than a plank of wood and I'm not in a hurry on holiday actually 27 degrees here

  • @Psalm11950
    @Psalm11950 Před 3 měsíci +4

    remember the First division in the 70''s and 80's and sometimes there would be 5 or 6 teams close together at the top. Teams like QPR, Ipswich, WBA, Southampton, Watford, even Swansea were close one season. It was more competitive then apart from a few seasons when Liverpool ran away with it

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Competitive doesn’t mean good tho does it

  • @MisterHorror69
    @MisterHorror69 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Hold on Everton were competing with Liverpool for the league in the 80s these young fans haven’t a clue

  • @markstv40
    @markstv40 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Well during Liverpool’s dominance with only Man U as their only so called competitor if not mistaken did Forest not win back to back European cups along with Villa also wining one with a brilliant Everton team also wining league titles and FA cups during that period.

  • @Brassneck7888
    @Brassneck7888 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Watch Graeme Souness Bryan Robson Steve McMahon Duncan Ferguson to name but a few when they went for the ball even the ball winced. Great players.

    • @barry2924
      @barry2924 Před 3 měsíci

      Duncan Ferguson wasn't a great player 😂, yes hard but footballing ability was woeful, put them other 3 against xavi, busquets and iniesta and they wudnt get a kick mate honestly

    • @user-yo4tr2ow5h
      @user-yo4tr2ow5h Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@barry2924if you put the players you mention great passers of the ball no doubt in the old days..they would have been less effective..two minutes wouldn't have gone by into a game and someone would have gone through them..Spanish league in the 80's was a brutal place to play..I doubt likes of inniesta would have survived the brutality of the day...Modern day players thrive in todays protected environment and fairplay to them...but would be hilarious to see them come up against someone like Goikoetxea😂😂

    • @henryb160
      @henryb160 Před 3 měsíci

      @@barry2924 Don't be silly. His footballing ability wasn't "woeful" but your English is.

  • @Geokinkladze
    @Geokinkladze Před 3 měsíci +3

    2:25 My guess would be Ray Wilkins, nicknamed "the crab" because he always passed it sideways.

  • @foxon172
    @foxon172 Před 3 měsíci +40

    The game is far less physical yet the injuries are through the roof in comparison

    • @jamesw2546
      @jamesw2546 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Said it for years, the players are too finely tuned. And overused. It's like f1 engines they're again finely tuned but on the limit of max performance and breaking.

    • @UnknownPerson-yx2sb
      @UnknownPerson-yx2sb Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@jamesw2546nothing to do with that, they’ve got football boots as thin as socks and shin pads that barely cover 20% of their shin, players of all eras as Graeme stated have played loads of games consistently

    • @ctr1502
      @ctr1502 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Football is still physical, the difference is players are in general faster and stronger. Its a big difference between athletes with muscle injuries vs impact injuries through tackles

    • @kendo5862
      @kendo5862 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Some of the pitches in the 80s were like sludge… and the players had hefty boots and a leaden ball! 😂

    • @scottmackintosh5934
      @scottmackintosh5934 Před 3 měsíci +3

      You’re so right. I was assistant manager for an amateur team and I did all the fitness stuff. I was a big believer in endurance and not being overweight to make things easy on the legs so that turning and kicking was effortless. Players always wanted to do static stretching before the game, which I banned. Everything was dynamic. Sprints were included and mandatory before a game. That way your first sprint isn’t against an opponent. It’s casual to open out the legs. Never got 1 muscle injury all season until a player brought his friend along who was a fitness coach. For rugby. He took 1 training session. All about strength and movements that your body wouldn’t do in a football match. 3 long term injuries in the next game. Sorry about the length of this lol. We were very fit but I never pushed the players if they were tired. If you’re tired; rest

  • @sambagogo777
    @sambagogo777 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I don't remember any top team of the past at the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelski, Leicester, Arsenal, Blackburn, Everton, Villa and Forest having had 115 FA charges hanging over them.

  • @chrisbax760
    @chrisbax760 Před 3 měsíci +20

    Jim white “ weve never seen anything like this Man City team dominate the premier league” so did you not watch the prem between 93 and 2013 because Fergie had it wrapped. 2 points and a few goals from winning it 6 years on the spin at one stage…. Think before you speak mr white

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF Před 3 měsíci +1

      Facts

    • @johnnyrocker7495
      @johnnyrocker7495 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yet never reached 90 pts and never dominated Europe. 2nd tier manager.

    • @chrisbax760
      @chrisbax760 Před 3 měsíci

      @@johnnyrocker7495 false do your research

    • @dickdiver9614
      @dickdiver9614 Před 3 měsíci

      @chrisbax760 Utd were successful without a doubt but not in Europe. From 93 to 97 they were getting stuffed year in year out. A lot of hype due to Premier league and Sky. Remember them losing 4-0 to Barca in Nou camp and that Barca team lost the final to Milan by the same margin. Utd miles off until 99 and in truth they were lucky to get there.

  • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
    @jhpfdijtuiweruot Před 3 měsíci +26

    Maradona would be untocuhable in today's game. Messi, on the other hand, would not have lasted five minutes in the era of Maradona.

    • @Lovelydropp
      @Lovelydropp Před 3 měsíci +8

      😂😂 one way of baiting urself out for having 0 ball knowledge I guess…

    • @2beers....1movie73
      @2beers....1movie73 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Of course, he would have because he would have been raised in those environments and conditions.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Maradonna would be banned for taking drugs and wouldn’t last a season let’s be real here

    • @BlackBeltNob
      @BlackBeltNob Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@tevildo45 If youre going that route, messi wouldnt of had the benefit of being pumped full of growth hormone, so OP is correct

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Lovelydropp . Lol. Projecting much? I saw both men play live. Clearly you just started watching football last week. Please send me LOTS of cartoon emojis to highlight the fact that you are unable to think of something interesting and relevant about football >>>

  • @ArchieFatcackie
    @ArchieFatcackie Před 3 měsíci +2

    Imagine the Liverpool team Souness played in being brought through with todays disciplines and lifestyles.
    They would be a sensation.

  • @melvynslote457
    @melvynslote457 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Graeme Souness is absolutely correct. They played great football on dirt track pitches, played 64 games in a season, hard tackling, physically the modern game has no competitive bite to it. Someone once said that Thierry Henri would not have made it back in the 70's, relying on balletic balance knowing he is not going to get tackled. Many Premiership games remind me of training ground runarounds.

    • @user-xd7eh4if6b
      @user-xd7eh4if6b Před 3 měsíci

      He would get bullied off the park. No strength, speed or ability

  • @xoxjazzerzxox
    @xoxjazzerzxox Před 3 měsíci +2

    His right about other teams being as good or better than the city side

  • @JamesEvans-uh7nu
    @JamesEvans-uh7nu Před 3 měsíci +8

    One things for sure the retro game was way way more physical. And for hardly any money compared to todays players

    • @philbarton2832
      @philbarton2832 Před 3 měsíci

      Only in terms of tackling. In every other department the game is much more physical now. Players are simply faster, stronger, and fitter because of modern sports science.

    • @dude9038
      @dude9038 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@philbarton2832 "stronger" LoooooooL! 😂🤡
      Tony Adams, BIG Duncan Ferguson, Patrick Vieira, Sol Campbell, Vidic was a warrior, Terry... there's so so many more, those types of huge athletic players and gritty tough players dont exist in the modern game, and modern players would get clobbered by those types of players if they went back in time and tried to play in the Premier League of those older players era. Most modern players wouldn't last 20 minutes on the field before throwing a hissy fit or lashing out and getting sent off because they lost the ball for the 50th time

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci

      Terry and vidic played like less than 10 year ago they are modern players

    • @lonelyboy1977
      @lonelyboy1977 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@philbarton2832 Tell us you only started watching football this century, without telling us you only started watching football this century. 😄😆😂🤣

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@dude9038so these are modern players. The topic is about 80s football. Souness said he would be able to play in the premier league. That has existed since the early 90s. Souness played in the 70s and 80s

  • @eljumbotron4056
    @eljumbotron4056 Před 3 měsíci +2

    footballers today would break their toes kicking those old footballs

  • @markscenic8331
    @markscenic8331 Před 3 měsíci +11

    I watched 1980 Liverpool v Spurs on ITV4 this weekend. The biggest difference for me is the players in the middle now have less time on the ball because the game is played much faster with more emphasis on pressing.

    • @user-pw6gm1tu6q
      @user-pw6gm1tu6q Před 3 měsíci +7

      no there isnt its just been given a new name and folk act like they have re invented the wheel,its just closing down and getting after them thats it,in souness day u had to do everything and be everything as a CM ,now that position has been broken down into at least 3 or 4 roles and u only have to be good at one not all

    • @markscenic8331
      @markscenic8331 Před 3 měsíci

      my observations were based around watching an old game recently. I was surprised how slow it was. everyone just had more time on the ball. night and day@@user-pw6gm1tu6q

    • @Antonio-hb8rd
      @Antonio-hb8rd Před 3 měsíci

      @@user-pw6gm1tu6qYou’ve literally just contradicted yourself.

    • @user-pw6gm1tu6q
      @user-pw6gm1tu6q Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Antonio-hb8rd please enlighten me as to how

    • @dickdiver9614
      @dickdiver9614 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @Antonio-hb8rd No he didn't. Ridiculous comment from you.

  • @MathewParker-by4nx
    @MathewParker-by4nx Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think there were more ballers back in the day. These days they are primarily athletes, they all look the same, they all play the same. I can’t help thinking that individuality is coached out of some players to conform.

  • @DJeMo
    @DJeMo Před 3 měsíci +4

    Men were alot more vicious through competitiveness he is spot on, if he wasn't sent off for the first few engagements todays game would love players like souness Keane makalele, those that wish to sit and play... gold to the game regardless of generation

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci

      Keane and makelele are from a completely different era to souness lol. They were premier league talent. Souness played in the 70s and 80s. Not even a comparison. Makelele was a much better player than souness. No back passing and very different tactics. Keane and makelele had to compete with talent from all over the world. Souness didn't have that challenge. Football changed a lot in the 90s man

  • @Thebearmre7
    @Thebearmre7 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think people don’t realise how great a player him was. He could defo play in modern game would be like rice but better

  • @matty2470
    @matty2470 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Souness was a great. The era is irrelevant. He had everything.

  • @gerryrr93
    @gerryrr93 Před 3 měsíci +2

    When were utd in a title race in the 80s 😂😂

    • @howwwwwyyyyy
      @howwwwwyyyyy Před 3 měsíci

      They were in a title race in the 70s!-2nd division though

  • @ItsGrantM
    @ItsGrantM Před 3 měsíci +1

    The only way to settle this is to get A.I to go over all the old footage of all the games in a season and build up a database of stats. Who ran the most, dribbled, forward passes etc and then we can compare like for like.

  • @Chitapool
    @Chitapool Před 3 měsíci +7

    Youngsters and older Folk with short or selective memories need to watch first division games from the 70's and 80's again. Then come back and give an informed opinion.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci

      Looks like a lot of walking around to me. Not very fast

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci

      Oh I have watched plenty of games from back then. Slow, unfit, players playing with injuries, players smoking whilst sitting on the bench. My opinion is very informed. Any teams from like 95 onwards would completely roast any team from the era you are talking about. Tactics are better, fitness is better, there are more players than there was back then. Players from all over the world and not just the uk lol. The scouting pool is much larger which has improved the game immensely.

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci

      Oh yeah back passing was so enjoyable to watch BTW. Great tactics

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@upthechels90 If you assume he is playing today, for the basis of comparison, then to be fair, you can't assume he is on the cigarettes and beers every night.
      That is just silly.
      Class is permanent.

    • @mosesrocco6614
      @mosesrocco6614 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Teams today get to play on bowling green pitches and get tons of protection from referees.
      The best players from the 70s, 80s, 90s could survive today easily.

  • @kevinparsons8550
    @kevinparsons8550 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Whenever the argument arises of a historic team or athlete comes up, people usually argue teams of the present beat the older greater teams/athletes due to a game being quicker, sport science etc
    I love these kind of debates for example for me a prime tyson beats prime Ali based on styles but Ali could beat a prime Tyson before the fight with hype mind games etc distracting tyson i.e a fair rationale of an idea or fantasy match up
    when it comes to comparing great football teams, nobody who argues in favour of current great sides such as Jim did for Man City, ever balance the argument by saying let's say one of Souness's dominant Liverpool teams would therefore also benefit from modern sports science, recovery, better pitches etc. It wouldn't advance the impossible subjective argument because only a time machine would prove us right or wrong. But, it would at least show those voting for modern greats beating historic greats are taking this into context. They never seem to include the backpass rule either, I can remember the old first division matches being hard to watch and a GK being able to pick the ball up from a pass from a team mate is 10 times harder than a team parking the bus. That's why Graham argues gengumpressing from the front isn't something new because good teams used to have to to stop opposition defenders repeatedly passing back to the GK. Watch old matches with Ian Rush in his prime as proof

  • @simonbletsoe7059
    @simonbletsoe7059 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Come February many grounds pitches were a mess in the eighties. Players kicked lumps out of each other. Liverpool won everything, everywhere. Today would be a doddle ,as he says.

  • @AJ-si9qr
    @AJ-si9qr Před 3 měsíci +1

    Simon makes a good point about how a win was 2 points and a draw 1 point. Now there is 5 subs, before it was 3 and before that less. People need to respect the older generations and realise and accept the differences. As someone who is in his mid 30s and watching the mid to late 90s, 2000s, 2010s i can honestly say individual quality now is poorer, systems and coaching may be better and you dont even have to go that far back. 2015 you had players like Suarez, Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger and many more and now there is only a handful.

    • @jamesw2546
      @jamesw2546 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I think you can take the best from past eras and with today's modern training and advancments in sports science nutrition then they would be top players in today's gane I'm not sure we could take the likes of bruno kdb back to their eras with the same sucess.

  • @darrenb3214
    @darrenb3214 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Maybe some of the football being played today is more easy on the eye and definitely is more athleticism and speed to it but a lot of that is to do with the pitches, technology and the main reason, is because you’re not allowed to tackle today like you could 30/40 years ago. But no way is football more competitive today than it was 30/40 years ago.

  • @markstv40
    @markstv40 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Class is permanent regardless of what era they were playing in, class players would’ve just adapted to the environment they were playing within.

  • @pjduff7577
    @pjduff7577 Před 3 měsíci +3

    The one thing he wouldnt have to do is win his midfield battle because they are truly a thing of the past

    • @docholiday-lm4vf
      @docholiday-lm4vf Před 3 měsíci

      Nonsense

    • @pjduff7577
      @pjduff7577 Před 3 měsíci

      @@docholiday-lm4vf so there are still midfield battles like sourness had ,or keane vs Viera?

  • @vinchenzo678
    @vinchenzo678 Před 3 měsíci +2

    It was definitely rougher and tougher when Graham was playing..

  • @jonathanhall7815
    @jonathanhall7815 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I certainly think the players of the 60's, 70's and 80's were not as flimsy as many of today's players.

  • @Upstairsforpete
    @Upstairsforpete Před 3 měsíci +1

    He would be "king" of the midfield, as he said it was harder, smaller squads, mud heaps pitches, 2 pts per win , no need to bust your gut as you can square pass and look good.
    More important teams going for the lge were not content to finish 4TH , they went for it up to the end of the season. How many midfield plyers get anywhere near 15 goals a season,in fact the forwards are happy with that!!!!!!!!!

  • @ph5849
    @ph5849 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Imo, it’s way easier in todays game, perfect pitches, best medical, blow on a player and they fall down, skill level probably similar. Balls were way heavier. Boots were heavier. It’s not a man’s game at all anymore. It’s a game with continuous cheating, wingers and many players just pass the ball backwards or sideways,, and always I mean always blame the ref no matter how bad you are!!

  • @chris2003ize
    @chris2003ize Před 3 měsíci +1

    My money's on Butch for the sideways passer.

  • @timyoung548
    @timyoung548 Před 3 měsíci +19

    He would of been sent off every other game ffs😂😂

    • @scottfletcherr1457
      @scottfletcherr1457 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He would have adjusted. He could do a lot more than just kick people.

  • @mourningireland4560
    @mourningireland4560 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is the most sense I've heard Sounness make. I think people pretending today is more competitive than before are falling foul of an extension of the Sky Sports invention of football rubbish.

  • @user-fi2db3xp8k
    @user-fi2db3xp8k Před 3 měsíci

    Souness was a great player. not just a tough guy, im a leicester fan ,i remember just how good he was, he,d control the midfield in the modern game.

  • @deanlowdon8381
    @deanlowdon8381 Před 3 měsíci

    The fact that the teams winning the league are doing so with record points shows that it’s not as competitive as it used to be, the top clubs have too big a financial advantage now.

  • @tvgcmma9215
    @tvgcmma9215 Před 3 měsíci

    Hard to compare eras due quality of pitches what’s classed as foul etc but the top players from any era would adapt - the other big difference tho is the old first division was max of 3 non Brit players where as now lot more from abroad so the mid tier Brit players wouldn’t make the team and would be playing for teams in bottom half or championship - as good a player as he was souness would prob he in Liverpool squad but not regular a starter

  • @dirtydawg448
    @dirtydawg448 Před 3 měsíci

    The biggest difference between then and now is the quality of the defenders today and the fact that back in the day defenders got away with much more than they can today - of course Souness could play today but then the top players today could have played back then too - it’s a totally stupid argument all round

  • @davidt510
    @davidt510 Před 3 měsíci +3

    World class players could play in any era.
    Michael Owen said a while back that all you need now to have a decent career in the Premier League is to be able to run and pass a ball 10 yards. He's right.

    • @Antonio-hb8rd
      @Antonio-hb8rd Před 3 měsíci

      Michael owen is out of touch and doesn’t even realise how good he was

  • @samuraiflashtv3375
    @samuraiflashtv3375 Před měsícem

    I agree with Souness, look at the pitches players like Maradona, R9 etc etc played on and even then they had great balance and amazing dribbling technique. These players would wreck players of this age. Imagine midfielders like Viera, Makelele, David’s, Gullit on pitches like this 😂

  • @andrewlittlewood8057
    @andrewlittlewood8057 Před 3 měsíci

    I agree players today would melt against players from Graeme’s era

  • @jhayd22
    @jhayd22 Před 3 měsíci

    its like rugby league back in the 80's and 90's it was so fast and non stop footy people just played because they didn't think it too much. i feel technology as just put too much air in peoples heads too much space where people can add things that don't need to be added all becuase at the end of the day to be the better team you need to be better and the only way you can really get better is by being tougher faster stronger which happens by training harder for sure the leagues of yester year were more tougher, but i will say football has developed so much since then new tactics and what not, but i think th ethos has shifted away from where it used to be

  • @user-th5nb3ox1w
    @user-th5nb3ox1w Před 3 měsíci +1

    The greatest players could do it at any time.

  • @paulpurves484
    @paulpurves484 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Graeme was a superb competitor and would easily cope with the premiership.

  • @zombievikinggaming4258
    @zombievikinggaming4258 Před 3 měsíci

    "Liverpool only had Man Utd in the 80's"
    "Man Utd only had Arsenal in the 90's"
    Man City only had Liverpool the past 6 years.

  • @callumkenmuir2825
    @callumkenmuir2825 Před 3 měsíci

    Players would have been booed off the park for passing backwards when I was a kid. You can't compare today's game with before but it was more competitive. Nowadays, clubs like Man City, Real Madrid and Bayern buy continued success. In the past, more clubs had a chance of winning trophies.

  • @fisherpeter695
    @fisherpeter695 Před 3 měsíci

    Watched my own club in the top flight since 1960 and Graeme Souness will recall that while his Liverpool team were at their peak they were knocked out the FA Cup at home to Brighton, then second division when the competition was taken very seriously. unfancied teams never went into games against top sides back then with a defeated mind-set that came with the Premier League. Even today Everton who are fighting for survival played Man City with an inferiority complex and never had a shot on their goal.
    In the 70s no side playing Liverpool or other leaders would get such an easy ride.
    Souey would walk into most premier league teams today simply on his forward passing ability alone.
    my own team Everton having spent £500m since Mr Moshiri took over six years ago haven't got a player who can play a forward pass to create a goal.

  • @allydign2749
    @allydign2749 Před 3 měsíci

    Souness is correct that he’d be ok in today’s game. The elite players have a mindset that would enable them to adapt in any era. He’s being slightly obtuse though about midfielders taking it off the back 4. It’s not simply to stat-pad….though I’m sure some do….but also to move the midfield around, otherwise without the ball people would simply retreat into a low block and it would be the most boring spectacle ever, watching defenders pinging 150 passes around and going nowhere! 😂

  • @bhencho5256
    @bhencho5256 Před 2 měsíci

    Simon Jordans greatest achievement in life 14 seconds in

  • @raymondo6665
    @raymondo6665 Před 3 měsíci

    Sourness wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes with VAR scrutinising his antics.

  • @craigshackleton1652
    @craigshackleton1652 Před 3 měsíci

    Graeme and Steve McMahon would have to clean up there tackling for the modern game. He mentioned yesterday morning that any team can beat any other team in the premier league this season. That isn't down to the players. It is purely down to the eccentric behaviour of referees both on and off the pitch. Take penalty shouts this weekend gone. You see one player at St James Park go down like a tonne of bricks from a hand on the shoulder to get a penalty. In the same match the opposition get pulled to the ground at every set piece and nothing happens. With sendings off a manager doesn't know if his player is going to get two yellow cards for his first two challenges or go through a whole game and not get one. Purely down to the ref. Even a team like Crystal Palace can launch a long ball for their forwards who are very clever at engaging contact with defenders to trick refs into giving them penalties. Would Greame be able to adjust to that new discipline?

  • @dontbewoke
    @dontbewoke Před 3 měsíci

    9:17 Competivity , hmm interesting new word there SImon.

  • @tecathome
    @tecathome Před 3 měsíci

    I have to agree with the best midfield player I have ever seen, Graham's argument about today's game hasn't taken in one huge fact though, Liverpool, United and the Derby's and Forest of the day did not have to buy up all the best players in the world and still dominated, I have admired all the best teams, disliked Leeds for different reasons although I admit they were a good team despite their tactics, I dislike this present City team because it is set up so that they can't be beat, I have to accept City are a great team but dislike them more than any that went before, all teams struggle with injuries at the end of the season except City as they are able to call on their 2nd string where each and every one would walk into most teams, that is the reason they come good, they have cheated the rest of the league, they shouldn't be there

  • @colinfarrelly2513
    @colinfarrelly2513 Před 3 měsíci

    Souness a proper man who played football.

  • @andrewcoy1766
    @andrewcoy1766 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It was also more fun to watch in the 80s / 90s

  • @peterpurpleheartparade5357
    @peterpurpleheartparade5357 Před 3 měsíci +1

    He'd piss it in todays game

  • @johnnycotton3217
    @johnnycotton3217 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Jim are you sure your a sports journalist ?

  • @ozymandias8346
    @ozymandias8346 Před 3 měsíci

    It’s so different to compare. Midfield players today are athletes. They will be fitter but less technical. I would fancy today on that basis but they aren’t better just different

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot Před 3 měsíci

      Footballers in the 80's were athletes. What are you talking about? Lol. You think men like Ruud Gullit were unfit and weak?

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci

      Liam Brady wasnt an athlete

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot Před 3 měsíci

      @@tevildo45 And yet he won Serie A twice with Juventus

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 3 měsíci

      That doesn’t mean he was an athlete does it.

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot Před 3 měsíci

      @@tevildo45 I didn’t say that he was did I?

  • @johnnyrocker7495
    @johnnyrocker7495 Před 3 měsíci

    "doing a Wilkins".... as in Ray.

  • @samlee86421
    @samlee86421 Před 3 měsíci

    Back in my day

  • @shellsbignumber2
    @shellsbignumber2 Před 3 měsíci

    I think you probably have to be more of an athlete now compared to the old days but I think generally you had more skilled players in the old days and a skilled player can get more fit but a fit player cant get any more skilful.

  • @sim00ns
    @sim00ns Před 3 měsíci +4

    I find it hilarious how the modern football has all these sport scientists and equipment, yet professionals complain they are playing too much football. Aren't they suppose to be fitter, healthier and with better gear. Can't imagine running around 90mins on an aweful pitch with those football boots from the 80s

  • @MagratheaLegend
    @MagratheaLegend Před 3 měsíci

    Jim White hasn't a clue. LIGHTER BOOTS, CARPET PITCHES, LIGHTER BALLS, ref protection, hardly any tackling allowed etc etc etc, put one of todays teams back into 1977 against that Liverpool team, they wouldn't stand a chance.

  • @theloner9627
    @theloner9627 Před 3 měsíci

    Somebody please go back and watch whole game when Graeme played and apply the opta stats / get some AI to run the numbers. Distance run, sprints, MPH etc... Then compare with today.

  • @robzombie5928
    @robzombie5928 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Midfielders in todays game arent expected to be able to attack and defend. Tackles back then were ruthless and attacking players were not protected like they are with the rules on whats a foul now. Modern players should be fitter and not in a drinking culture but plenty still are. 70s and 80s compared to today, too much time has passed to really compare.

    • @jamesw2546
      @jamesw2546 Před 3 měsíci

      I think most people struggle to make the comparison fairly, would souness be a top player in today's gane with all the newmodern training facilities advances in nutrition and fitness? Almost certainly, can we take kdb and put him in souness era ? Probably not

  • @owenmatt
    @owenmatt Před 3 měsíci

    The main and biggest difference is the physical fitness thanks to much more advanced sports science and supplements. Imagine the best players from the past with the same resources they have today.
    The second biggest difference is the fact that the Premier League has de facto become the World League since it attracts almost all the best players in the world given that it’s the richest.
    All that said, the best players of yesteryear would no doubt be successful today if they had the same access to today’s dieticians, supplements and advancements in physical development.

  • @Samtheman91
    @Samtheman91 Před 3 měsíci +18

    No you'd get sent off every game

    • @ramps2402
      @ramps2402 Před 3 měsíci +2

      No he wouldn’t.

    • @jhpfdijtuiweruot
      @jhpfdijtuiweruot Před 3 měsíci

      Weird thing to be crying about.

    • @ramps2402
      @ramps2402 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jhpfdijtuiweruot What is all this crying childish nonsense 🤡.

    • @Peepsarestrange
      @Peepsarestrange Před 3 měsíci +2

      Older players could rein in a heavy tackling physical mentality the same can't be said about a flower petal player playing back in tbe day.

    • @upthechels90
      @upthechels90 Před 3 měsíci

      ​​@@Peepsarestrangethat is because playing with an injury makes you worse. You are not playing at the best possible level. It really doesn't matter how much of a man you are lol. Playing through pain slows you down and that is a fact!! Goalkeepers would play with concussions back in the day. I have seen videos if them wobbling about lol. Being an idiot doesn't make you a better athelete. Being smart does.

  • @aol6983
    @aol6983 Před 3 měsíci

    Graeme is absolutely correct on today's midfielders, the worst offender being the most over-rated player in the PL, Declan "Square pass" Rice, how on earth is he even rated. Exceptions in my opinion are Du Bruyne and Foden at City and Trent (when he plays midfield) at Liverpool. Chelsea are a complete joke, Caicedo and Hernandez are a combined £200m.

  • @darrenlee9237
    @darrenlee9237 Před 3 měsíci

    I think Graeme Souness would thrive in the modern game. My only question mark would be the ball-winning/hard tackling aspect of his game. That's not tolerated in the modern era.

  • @vasiewelman1726
    @vasiewelman1726 Před 3 měsíci

    First time i agree with sounness completely😂 it really grates on me that they compare teams out of eras it is ludicrous!

  • @frankmcloughlin7076
    @frankmcloughlin7076 Před 3 měsíci

    Who knows? Souness may well be correct. However, he played in an era when a player could play back to the goalkeeper who was entitled use their hands. In other words, it was far easier for the midfielders und defenders back then, as they pretty much always had an easy get-out option. Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember those games in the 70's and 80's., and believe me, there was a lot of very dull, overly- cautious, slow-motion football played....

  • @rishabhaniket1952
    @rishabhaniket1952 Před 3 měsíci

    It's so funny when someone from my gen thinks humans were lazier or more casual in the past by saying it's more competitive now. As if the human instinct to thrive and succeed is something special to our own times. It's always BEEN THERE!

  • @iangascoigne8231
    @iangascoigne8231 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Of course it would. He would have spent most of it suspended.

  • @JamesSmith-ds2hi
    @JamesSmith-ds2hi Před 3 měsíci +2

    This is the worst ever era of football so it would be easy for anyone. I think even the local bin man could look half decent 😂. All pace and power with no technique at all. Players get to hide behind stats to make them look good now

  • @adamg8814
    @adamg8814 Před 3 měsíci

    He would had it not been for VAR and getting red cards every other week

  • @mosesrocco6614
    @mosesrocco6614 Před 3 měsíci

    My guess is Souness was talking about Ray Wilkins. Don't do a Ray Wilkins.