Graeme Souness Claims Playing In The Premier League Would Be A 'Doddle' For Him! ⚽😎
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Souness 100% right. Squad depths/rotation and more subs, billiard table pitches, no tackling, sport scientists and monitoring, flown on private jets everywhere, all baby sit and coddle the modern player
Which means they’re better and therefore harder to play against 🥴
@@Cornwall1888the point is whether he’s right to say he would have found it easier not necessarily about the level
The competition is much higher nowadays. I mean it's possible someone better from another continent would be in the team ahead of him. He has no idea how good he would be nowadays. Also they pass it sideways because its harder to break lines nowadays
I would watch the Liverpool team in the 1980’s with Ian Rush, John Barnes and Beardsley any day over a ManCity team of today.
Go back snd watch a few full matches abd you might change your mind. Nostalgia can fool people
In Souness' time, you had West Brom, Aston Villa, Notts Forest, Ipswich (very competitive in European competitions, winning them...)and others as well as the perceived top teams. It was very competitive at that time.
Agree with Souness. There were a lot of good technical players back then who'd thrive on todays bowling green pitches
A big difference is data and sports science. I'm sure you get way more out of the players now than you did then, so just slotting the two eras together, the modern era wins in a landslide. Provide the advancements in sports science to The 70s and 80s era, it would be more even.
Souhness would be red carded every day
@allanfarran364 He might have but Souness wouldn't have.
@@dickdiver9614 i hope your proud of yourself for that
@santinoalfredo390 And I'm hope "you're " not proud of yourself for that 🙄😁
Souness is spot on. Imagine for a minute what Maradona at his peak would have been like in the modern game. Messi and Ronaldo would have been like Platini and Zico had Maradona played at the same time in history. The protection, pitches, lifestyle, coaching, equipment and diet modern players have is light years ahead of what they had in the 70's and 80's but the players from 35 or 40 years ago did all they did despite it all.
And he got his leg broken twice, be the end of career for players today
People always argue about players from yesteryear not being able to play today. How many of today's players could have made it in the 70s and 80s. I am not a utd fan but George Best would have thought he was playing against 10 year olds on these pitches and not being able to foul him
There are exceptions to the rule. Also I don't think the fitness was as good back then. That is a fact!! George Best was an alcoholic and probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the pace of today's game!! It is much faster nowadays.
You are in cookoo land
As an LFC fan I will happily concede George Best suffered awful tackles and physical abuse in EVERY game, todays players would never cope. George always just got up and carried on.
Of course it is a compliment since there was no other way to stop him.
@@Weareeverything2023was at Anfield and few weeks back and got speaking to Roy Evans about George Best (due to my Belfast accent) and he said he played against him once and Best actually thanked him for not fouling him all over the place, Roy replied with “foul you? I can’t get bloody near you!” Cracked me up
@@RegionFly Sounds like Roy lol.
Imagine never having played at the top level and feeling like you know more than a man who’s achieved everything at club level.
He's not wrong. People wrongly think the league is stronger these days or 'more competitive' when it clearly isn't. In the 90's, 75-80 points being enough to win you the league was a clear indicator that the gap between the top and 'lesser' teams was smaller, therefore more competitive.
More competitive doesn’t mean quality tho. Two bums fighting in an alley can be competitive, it doesn’t mean it’s high quality tho
@@tevildo45 Except it was still of a very high standard.
@@tevildo45 what people define as quality is different. Now creative players are very few and far between, players are now drilled to pass and move on repeat from a young age. You had way more creative flair players in previous gen’s and goal highlights used to be much better also.
Men were alot more vicious through competitiveness he is spot on, if he wasn't sent off for the first few engagements todays game would love players like souness Keane makalele, those that wish to sit and play... gold to the game regardless of generation
The problem is teams are trying to copy Man City and beat them at there own game instead of exploiting weakness and playing to their own strengths. It’s all copy cat now pass move. It’s like trying to brawl with prime Mike Tyson
There was football before the premier league
Souness was mega in the 80's, he would be even bigger in todays game!
Anyone who has played a decent level and has seen Souness play (with either foot) knows he would absolutely breeze it in today’s game. The guy was a serious baller. END OF.
Seen him play a lot and he wouldn’t cut it in today’s game it’s too fast for him. This is a fact and you know it
@@tevildo45 but todays football is slower
@@tevildo45the pitches were horrendous when souness was playing . Today they play on green carpets with 5 subs . Souness in midfield today would be a 100 million pound player
@@masterfulskyit really isn't though. Souness didn't play against West African footballers on a regular basis lol. You telling me the guys in his day were faster than the likes of sadio Mane etc? No chnace
@tev 😂😂😂 mate the. Est players make the ball donthe work
Scholes, alonso, pirlo, modric, xavi etc all slow…..
You are cluless
Stanley mathews played until he was 50 and won the ballan dor at 41
Players of thst era covered 3-5k a game today its 9-11k a game
What's all this nonsense about Utd being Liverpool's only competitor in the 1980s? Everton, Villa, Forest were far bigger competitors back then.
He was probably born in the last 20 years youth of today
I literally laughed out loud at that assertion. It clearly came from a modern day fanboy who only started watching football this century.
Indeed.
Everton won the league twice & also a European trophy in the midst of Liverpool's heyday. Man Utd never achieved either
As a Utd fan this is true.
@@DC_92 it’s true no matter who you support. It’s all a matter of record.
The modern game is tailor made for teams like Man City. No 'real' tackling allowed, defenders terrified of making any contact in or near the box. The slightest tug or even touch and if the player with the ball decides to collapse like he's been shot by a sniper then a free kick is given 90% of the time. That didn't happen in the 70's even up to the early 2000's, it was a contact sport and you needed big strong tough players in defence and holding midfield. Now super fast agile players are afforded the luxury of being able to dribble freely and pass and move most of the time due to the players on the defence trying their best not to give away any silly fowls. The modern game has been injected with ballet
Defenders nowadays having to tackle with their hands behind their backs pretty much sums up the mess football is today.
It isn't a man's game anymore. As in, physically tough. Players get free kicks for anything now. Embarrassing watching some of these so-called men playing nowadays
Most of today's midfielders would go off on a stretcher if the Souness of old even looked at them
I can almost guarantee that sideways passing was called “Doing a Ray Wilkins.” God rest his soul, but Ron Atkinson didn’t nickname him “The Crab”, for nothing.
100% correct.
Can't have done him much harm , played for Chelsea, Man Utd, Milan, PSG and I think Souness signed him for Rangers ?
Graeme at his peak on todays pitches? that would be a sight.
Would defo make it easier to make a clean back pass to the goalie
Souness is spot on correct... pitches were a lot worse than today... a foul was only given if you broke your leg... today's football is like our six a side tournaments that we played for a bit of fun..
You would be hard pressed to name any of today's players that had the drive.. determination.. and skill of the likes of souness keano or Robbo... these guys could win hard tackles get up with the ball and drive the team forward.
The football then may not have been so easy on the eye... but generally you had two teams going at it trying to win.... certainly more exciting to watch back then.
Take a look at the classic clip of Bestie goal against Chelsea when chopper Harris tried taking him out at the knee... the pitch wouldn't be played on today... The forward would have collapsed and rolled around and chopper would be off...Don't think he even got booked.
Everton fan here. Souness is right, he was a complete midfielder, a Rolls Royce, even though he was a b*****d !
Poor player. Would get bullied off the park today
The trouble is, you have yuppies who have only been into football for 10 years and have only watched PL football in their lives and they think they’re experts and more knowledgeable than people who have played the game.
Souness had everything the modern day midfielder has and more because he was aggressive and could tackle. The only doubt about him playing in today’s top flight is whether he could stay on the pitch now that tackling is outlawed.
He would adapt, as all great players do
I am glad i am 52, to able to jave watched Graham and all the other greats of his generation play.
They absolutely were class footballers. He stands head and shoulders above most midfielders in my life time.
in what aspect is he head and shoulders above...
You can’t compare generations but the reality is it’s all relative. The players in Graeme’s day would be premier league players today, they had the talent and personality, they would adjust to the modern day.
🔔 end 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
@@Nando84709not being funny, if you can't write a sentence pushing back with an argument instead of saying 🔔 end.
That's somewhat true as older players could adjust to improved tactics, speed and fitness. However what has improved 100 times over is scouting data. There's a massive increase in the amount of players from around the world....Souness was never competing for a place with the best African, South American players that never made it out of their hometowns in his era.
The competition for places is way higher now as every club are scouring the world for the next 6 year old Messi.
@@scotty90 yea F grammar your clearly in a hurry 🤣
@@Nando84709 you literally don't use grammar, you come across thicker than a plank of wood and I'm not in a hurry on holiday actually 27 degrees here
remember the First division in the 70''s and 80's and sometimes there would be 5 or 6 teams close together at the top. Teams like QPR, Ipswich, WBA, Southampton, Watford, even Swansea were close one season. It was more competitive then apart from a few seasons when Liverpool ran away with it
Competitive doesn’t mean good tho does it
Hold on Everton were competing with Liverpool for the league in the 80s these young fans haven’t a clue
Well during Liverpool’s dominance with only Man U as their only so called competitor if not mistaken did Forest not win back to back European cups along with Villa also wining one with a brilliant Everton team also wining league titles and FA cups during that period.
Watch Graeme Souness Bryan Robson Steve McMahon Duncan Ferguson to name but a few when they went for the ball even the ball winced. Great players.
Duncan Ferguson wasn't a great player 😂, yes hard but footballing ability was woeful, put them other 3 against xavi, busquets and iniesta and they wudnt get a kick mate honestly
@@barry2924if you put the players you mention great passers of the ball no doubt in the old days..they would have been less effective..two minutes wouldn't have gone by into a game and someone would have gone through them..Spanish league in the 80's was a brutal place to play..I doubt likes of inniesta would have survived the brutality of the day...Modern day players thrive in todays protected environment and fairplay to them...but would be hilarious to see them come up against someone like Goikoetxea😂😂
@@barry2924 Don't be silly. His footballing ability wasn't "woeful" but your English is.
2:25 My guess would be Ray Wilkins, nicknamed "the crab" because he always passed it sideways.
My thought too
The game is far less physical yet the injuries are through the roof in comparison
Said it for years, the players are too finely tuned. And overused. It's like f1 engines they're again finely tuned but on the limit of max performance and breaking.
@@jamesw2546nothing to do with that, they’ve got football boots as thin as socks and shin pads that barely cover 20% of their shin, players of all eras as Graeme stated have played loads of games consistently
Football is still physical, the difference is players are in general faster and stronger. Its a big difference between athletes with muscle injuries vs impact injuries through tackles
Some of the pitches in the 80s were like sludge… and the players had hefty boots and a leaden ball! 😂
You’re so right. I was assistant manager for an amateur team and I did all the fitness stuff. I was a big believer in endurance and not being overweight to make things easy on the legs so that turning and kicking was effortless. Players always wanted to do static stretching before the game, which I banned. Everything was dynamic. Sprints were included and mandatory before a game. That way your first sprint isn’t against an opponent. It’s casual to open out the legs. Never got 1 muscle injury all season until a player brought his friend along who was a fitness coach. For rugby. He took 1 training session. All about strength and movements that your body wouldn’t do in a football match. 3 long term injuries in the next game. Sorry about the length of this lol. We were very fit but I never pushed the players if they were tired. If you’re tired; rest
I don't remember any top team of the past at the likes of Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelski, Leicester, Arsenal, Blackburn, Everton, Villa and Forest having had 115 FA charges hanging over them.
Jim white “ weve never seen anything like this Man City team dominate the premier league” so did you not watch the prem between 93 and 2013 because Fergie had it wrapped. 2 points and a few goals from winning it 6 years on the spin at one stage…. Think before you speak mr white
Facts
Yet never reached 90 pts and never dominated Europe. 2nd tier manager.
@@johnnyrocker7495 false do your research
@chrisbax760 Utd were successful without a doubt but not in Europe. From 93 to 97 they were getting stuffed year in year out. A lot of hype due to Premier league and Sky. Remember them losing 4-0 to Barca in Nou camp and that Barca team lost the final to Milan by the same margin. Utd miles off until 99 and in truth they were lucky to get there.
Maradona would be untocuhable in today's game. Messi, on the other hand, would not have lasted five minutes in the era of Maradona.
😂😂 one way of baiting urself out for having 0 ball knowledge I guess…
Of course, he would have because he would have been raised in those environments and conditions.
Maradonna would be banned for taking drugs and wouldn’t last a season let’s be real here
@@tevildo45 If youre going that route, messi wouldnt of had the benefit of being pumped full of growth hormone, so OP is correct
@@Lovelydropp . Lol. Projecting much? I saw both men play live. Clearly you just started watching football last week. Please send me LOTS of cartoon emojis to highlight the fact that you are unable to think of something interesting and relevant about football >>>
Imagine the Liverpool team Souness played in being brought through with todays disciplines and lifestyles.
They would be a sensation.
Graeme Souness is absolutely correct. They played great football on dirt track pitches, played 64 games in a season, hard tackling, physically the modern game has no competitive bite to it. Someone once said that Thierry Henri would not have made it back in the 70's, relying on balletic balance knowing he is not going to get tackled. Many Premiership games remind me of training ground runarounds.
He would get bullied off the park. No strength, speed or ability
His right about other teams being as good or better than the city side
One things for sure the retro game was way way more physical. And for hardly any money compared to todays players
Only in terms of tackling. In every other department the game is much more physical now. Players are simply faster, stronger, and fitter because of modern sports science.
@@philbarton2832 "stronger" LoooooooL! 😂🤡
Tony Adams, BIG Duncan Ferguson, Patrick Vieira, Sol Campbell, Vidic was a warrior, Terry... there's so so many more, those types of huge athletic players and gritty tough players dont exist in the modern game, and modern players would get clobbered by those types of players if they went back in time and tried to play in the Premier League of those older players era. Most modern players wouldn't last 20 minutes on the field before throwing a hissy fit or lashing out and getting sent off because they lost the ball for the 50th time
Terry and vidic played like less than 10 year ago they are modern players
@@philbarton2832 Tell us you only started watching football this century, without telling us you only started watching football this century. 😄😆😂🤣
@@dude9038so these are modern players. The topic is about 80s football. Souness said he would be able to play in the premier league. That has existed since the early 90s. Souness played in the 70s and 80s
footballers today would break their toes kicking those old footballs
I watched 1980 Liverpool v Spurs on ITV4 this weekend. The biggest difference for me is the players in the middle now have less time on the ball because the game is played much faster with more emphasis on pressing.
no there isnt its just been given a new name and folk act like they have re invented the wheel,its just closing down and getting after them thats it,in souness day u had to do everything and be everything as a CM ,now that position has been broken down into at least 3 or 4 roles and u only have to be good at one not all
my observations were based around watching an old game recently. I was surprised how slow it was. everyone just had more time on the ball. night and day@@user-pw6gm1tu6q
@@user-pw6gm1tu6qYou’ve literally just contradicted yourself.
@@Antonio-hb8rd please enlighten me as to how
@Antonio-hb8rd No he didn't. Ridiculous comment from you.
I think there were more ballers back in the day. These days they are primarily athletes, they all look the same, they all play the same. I can’t help thinking that individuality is coached out of some players to conform.
Men were alot more vicious through competitiveness he is spot on, if he wasn't sent off for the first few engagements todays game would love players like souness Keane makalele, those that wish to sit and play... gold to the game regardless of generation
Keane and makelele are from a completely different era to souness lol. They were premier league talent. Souness played in the 70s and 80s. Not even a comparison. Makelele was a much better player than souness. No back passing and very different tactics. Keane and makelele had to compete with talent from all over the world. Souness didn't have that challenge. Football changed a lot in the 90s man
I think people don’t realise how great a player him was. He could defo play in modern game would be like rice but better
Souness was a great. The era is irrelevant. He had everything.
When were utd in a title race in the 80s 😂😂
They were in a title race in the 70s!-2nd division though
The only way to settle this is to get A.I to go over all the old footage of all the games in a season and build up a database of stats. Who ran the most, dribbled, forward passes etc and then we can compare like for like.
Youngsters and older Folk with short or selective memories need to watch first division games from the 70's and 80's again. Then come back and give an informed opinion.
Looks like a lot of walking around to me. Not very fast
Oh I have watched plenty of games from back then. Slow, unfit, players playing with injuries, players smoking whilst sitting on the bench. My opinion is very informed. Any teams from like 95 onwards would completely roast any team from the era you are talking about. Tactics are better, fitness is better, there are more players than there was back then. Players from all over the world and not just the uk lol. The scouting pool is much larger which has improved the game immensely.
Oh yeah back passing was so enjoyable to watch BTW. Great tactics
@@upthechels90 If you assume he is playing today, for the basis of comparison, then to be fair, you can't assume he is on the cigarettes and beers every night.
That is just silly.
Class is permanent.
Teams today get to play on bowling green pitches and get tons of protection from referees.
The best players from the 70s, 80s, 90s could survive today easily.
Whenever the argument arises of a historic team or athlete comes up, people usually argue teams of the present beat the older greater teams/athletes due to a game being quicker, sport science etc
I love these kind of debates for example for me a prime tyson beats prime Ali based on styles but Ali could beat a prime Tyson before the fight with hype mind games etc distracting tyson i.e a fair rationale of an idea or fantasy match up
when it comes to comparing great football teams, nobody who argues in favour of current great sides such as Jim did for Man City, ever balance the argument by saying let's say one of Souness's dominant Liverpool teams would therefore also benefit from modern sports science, recovery, better pitches etc. It wouldn't advance the impossible subjective argument because only a time machine would prove us right or wrong. But, it would at least show those voting for modern greats beating historic greats are taking this into context. They never seem to include the backpass rule either, I can remember the old first division matches being hard to watch and a GK being able to pick the ball up from a pass from a team mate is 10 times harder than a team parking the bus. That's why Graham argues gengumpressing from the front isn't something new because good teams used to have to to stop opposition defenders repeatedly passing back to the GK. Watch old matches with Ian Rush in his prime as proof
Come February many grounds pitches were a mess in the eighties. Players kicked lumps out of each other. Liverpool won everything, everywhere. Today would be a doddle ,as he says.
Simon makes a good point about how a win was 2 points and a draw 1 point. Now there is 5 subs, before it was 3 and before that less. People need to respect the older generations and realise and accept the differences. As someone who is in his mid 30s and watching the mid to late 90s, 2000s, 2010s i can honestly say individual quality now is poorer, systems and coaching may be better and you dont even have to go that far back. 2015 you had players like Suarez, Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger and many more and now there is only a handful.
I think you can take the best from past eras and with today's modern training and advancments in sports science nutrition then they would be top players in today's gane I'm not sure we could take the likes of bruno kdb back to their eras with the same sucess.
Maybe some of the football being played today is more easy on the eye and definitely is more athleticism and speed to it but a lot of that is to do with the pitches, technology and the main reason, is because you’re not allowed to tackle today like you could 30/40 years ago. But no way is football more competitive today than it was 30/40 years ago.
Class is permanent regardless of what era they were playing in, class players would’ve just adapted to the environment they were playing within.
The one thing he wouldnt have to do is win his midfield battle because they are truly a thing of the past
Nonsense
@@docholiday-lm4vf so there are still midfield battles like sourness had ,or keane vs Viera?
It was definitely rougher and tougher when Graham was playing..
I certainly think the players of the 60's, 70's and 80's were not as flimsy as many of today's players.
He would be "king" of the midfield, as he said it was harder, smaller squads, mud heaps pitches, 2 pts per win , no need to bust your gut as you can square pass and look good.
More important teams going for the lge were not content to finish 4TH , they went for it up to the end of the season. How many midfield plyers get anywhere near 15 goals a season,in fact the forwards are happy with that!!!!!!!!!
Imo, it’s way easier in todays game, perfect pitches, best medical, blow on a player and they fall down, skill level probably similar. Balls were way heavier. Boots were heavier. It’s not a man’s game at all anymore. It’s a game with continuous cheating, wingers and many players just pass the ball backwards or sideways,, and always I mean always blame the ref no matter how bad you are!!
My money's on Butch for the sideways passer.
He would of been sent off every other game ffs😂😂
He would have adjusted. He could do a lot more than just kick people.
This is the most sense I've heard Sounness make. I think people pretending today is more competitive than before are falling foul of an extension of the Sky Sports invention of football rubbish.
Souness was a great player. not just a tough guy, im a leicester fan ,i remember just how good he was, he,d control the midfield in the modern game.
The fact that the teams winning the league are doing so with record points shows that it’s not as competitive as it used to be, the top clubs have too big a financial advantage now.
Hard to compare eras due quality of pitches what’s classed as foul etc but the top players from any era would adapt - the other big difference tho is the old first division was max of 3 non Brit players where as now lot more from abroad so the mid tier Brit players wouldn’t make the team and would be playing for teams in bottom half or championship - as good a player as he was souness would prob he in Liverpool squad but not regular a starter
The biggest difference between then and now is the quality of the defenders today and the fact that back in the day defenders got away with much more than they can today - of course Souness could play today but then the top players today could have played back then too - it’s a totally stupid argument all round
World class players could play in any era.
Michael Owen said a while back that all you need now to have a decent career in the Premier League is to be able to run and pass a ball 10 yards. He's right.
Michael owen is out of touch and doesn’t even realise how good he was
I agree with Souness, look at the pitches players like Maradona, R9 etc etc played on and even then they had great balance and amazing dribbling technique. These players would wreck players of this age. Imagine midfielders like Viera, Makelele, David’s, Gullit on pitches like this 😂
I agree players today would melt against players from Graeme’s era
its like rugby league back in the 80's and 90's it was so fast and non stop footy people just played because they didn't think it too much. i feel technology as just put too much air in peoples heads too much space where people can add things that don't need to be added all becuase at the end of the day to be the better team you need to be better and the only way you can really get better is by being tougher faster stronger which happens by training harder for sure the leagues of yester year were more tougher, but i will say football has developed so much since then new tactics and what not, but i think th ethos has shifted away from where it used to be
The greatest players could do it at any time.
Graeme was a superb competitor and would easily cope with the premiership.
"Liverpool only had Man Utd in the 80's"
"Man Utd only had Arsenal in the 90's"
Man City only had Liverpool the past 6 years.
Players would have been booed off the park for passing backwards when I was a kid. You can't compare today's game with before but it was more competitive. Nowadays, clubs like Man City, Real Madrid and Bayern buy continued success. In the past, more clubs had a chance of winning trophies.
Watched my own club in the top flight since 1960 and Graeme Souness will recall that while his Liverpool team were at their peak they were knocked out the FA Cup at home to Brighton, then second division when the competition was taken very seriously. unfancied teams never went into games against top sides back then with a defeated mind-set that came with the Premier League. Even today Everton who are fighting for survival played Man City with an inferiority complex and never had a shot on their goal.
In the 70s no side playing Liverpool or other leaders would get such an easy ride.
Souey would walk into most premier league teams today simply on his forward passing ability alone.
my own team Everton having spent £500m since Mr Moshiri took over six years ago haven't got a player who can play a forward pass to create a goal.
Souness is correct that he’d be ok in today’s game. The elite players have a mindset that would enable them to adapt in any era. He’s being slightly obtuse though about midfielders taking it off the back 4. It’s not simply to stat-pad….though I’m sure some do….but also to move the midfield around, otherwise without the ball people would simply retreat into a low block and it would be the most boring spectacle ever, watching defenders pinging 150 passes around and going nowhere! 😂
Simon Jordans greatest achievement in life 14 seconds in
Sourness wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes with VAR scrutinising his antics.
Graeme and Steve McMahon would have to clean up there tackling for the modern game. He mentioned yesterday morning that any team can beat any other team in the premier league this season. That isn't down to the players. It is purely down to the eccentric behaviour of referees both on and off the pitch. Take penalty shouts this weekend gone. You see one player at St James Park go down like a tonne of bricks from a hand on the shoulder to get a penalty. In the same match the opposition get pulled to the ground at every set piece and nothing happens. With sendings off a manager doesn't know if his player is going to get two yellow cards for his first two challenges or go through a whole game and not get one. Purely down to the ref. Even a team like Crystal Palace can launch a long ball for their forwards who are very clever at engaging contact with defenders to trick refs into giving them penalties. Would Greame be able to adjust to that new discipline?
9:17 Competivity , hmm interesting new word there SImon.
I have to agree with the best midfield player I have ever seen, Graham's argument about today's game hasn't taken in one huge fact though, Liverpool, United and the Derby's and Forest of the day did not have to buy up all the best players in the world and still dominated, I have admired all the best teams, disliked Leeds for different reasons although I admit they were a good team despite their tactics, I dislike this present City team because it is set up so that they can't be beat, I have to accept City are a great team but dislike them more than any that went before, all teams struggle with injuries at the end of the season except City as they are able to call on their 2nd string where each and every one would walk into most teams, that is the reason they come good, they have cheated the rest of the league, they shouldn't be there
Souness a proper man who played football.
It was also more fun to watch in the 80s / 90s
He'd piss it in todays game
Jim are you sure your a sports journalist ?
It’s so different to compare. Midfield players today are athletes. They will be fitter but less technical. I would fancy today on that basis but they aren’t better just different
Footballers in the 80's were athletes. What are you talking about? Lol. You think men like Ruud Gullit were unfit and weak?
Liam Brady wasnt an athlete
@@tevildo45 And yet he won Serie A twice with Juventus
That doesn’t mean he was an athlete does it.
@@tevildo45 I didn’t say that he was did I?
"doing a Wilkins".... as in Ray.
Back in my day
I think you probably have to be more of an athlete now compared to the old days but I think generally you had more skilled players in the old days and a skilled player can get more fit but a fit player cant get any more skilful.
I find it hilarious how the modern football has all these sport scientists and equipment, yet professionals complain they are playing too much football. Aren't they suppose to be fitter, healthier and with better gear. Can't imagine running around 90mins on an aweful pitch with those football boots from the 80s
Finely honed to a brittle point.
Jim White hasn't a clue. LIGHTER BOOTS, CARPET PITCHES, LIGHTER BALLS, ref protection, hardly any tackling allowed etc etc etc, put one of todays teams back into 1977 against that Liverpool team, they wouldn't stand a chance.
Somebody please go back and watch whole game when Graeme played and apply the opta stats / get some AI to run the numbers. Distance run, sprints, MPH etc... Then compare with today.
Midfielders in todays game arent expected to be able to attack and defend. Tackles back then were ruthless and attacking players were not protected like they are with the rules on whats a foul now. Modern players should be fitter and not in a drinking culture but plenty still are. 70s and 80s compared to today, too much time has passed to really compare.
I think most people struggle to make the comparison fairly, would souness be a top player in today's gane with all the newmodern training facilities advances in nutrition and fitness? Almost certainly, can we take kdb and put him in souness era ? Probably not
The main and biggest difference is the physical fitness thanks to much more advanced sports science and supplements. Imagine the best players from the past with the same resources they have today.
The second biggest difference is the fact that the Premier League has de facto become the World League since it attracts almost all the best players in the world given that it’s the richest.
All that said, the best players of yesteryear would no doubt be successful today if they had the same access to today’s dieticians, supplements and advancements in physical development.
No you'd get sent off every game
No he wouldn’t.
Weird thing to be crying about.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot What is all this crying childish nonsense 🤡.
Older players could rein in a heavy tackling physical mentality the same can't be said about a flower petal player playing back in tbe day.
@@Peepsarestrangethat is because playing with an injury makes you worse. You are not playing at the best possible level. It really doesn't matter how much of a man you are lol. Playing through pain slows you down and that is a fact!! Goalkeepers would play with concussions back in the day. I have seen videos if them wobbling about lol. Being an idiot doesn't make you a better athelete. Being smart does.
Graeme is absolutely correct on today's midfielders, the worst offender being the most over-rated player in the PL, Declan "Square pass" Rice, how on earth is he even rated. Exceptions in my opinion are Du Bruyne and Foden at City and Trent (when he plays midfield) at Liverpool. Chelsea are a complete joke, Caicedo and Hernandez are a combined £200m.
I think Graeme Souness would thrive in the modern game. My only question mark would be the ball-winning/hard tackling aspect of his game. That's not tolerated in the modern era.
First time i agree with sounness completely😂 it really grates on me that they compare teams out of eras it is ludicrous!
Who knows? Souness may well be correct. However, he played in an era when a player could play back to the goalkeeper who was entitled use their hands. In other words, it was far easier for the midfielders und defenders back then, as they pretty much always had an easy get-out option. Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember those games in the 70's and 80's., and believe me, there was a lot of very dull, overly- cautious, slow-motion football played....
It's so funny when someone from my gen thinks humans were lazier or more casual in the past by saying it's more competitive now. As if the human instinct to thrive and succeed is something special to our own times. It's always BEEN THERE!
Of course it would. He would have spent most of it suspended.
Unlikely.....people adapt.
@@scottfletcherr1457 Do they?
This is the worst ever era of football so it would be easy for anyone. I think even the local bin man could look half decent 😂. All pace and power with no technique at all. Players get to hide behind stats to make them look good now
He would had it not been for VAR and getting red cards every other week
My guess is Souness was talking about Ray Wilkins. Don't do a Ray Wilkins.