No Taxation Without Representation ( In the Galactic Republic)
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Meh
yah a remember in history class that the British Redcoats were vampires, that's why they had those big hats and long sleaves
We're all vampires, that's why there's no sun in jolly ol' England
@@jimslater8685 wouldn’t exactly say jolly is the right word
@@uragu1505 It isn't,you're correct. But us brits do love our sarcasm.
what AMC Series is he showin at the begining
"...and that's why citizens of the Republic drink Jawa Juice over Bantha Chai."
Happy 4th of July, Allen, to you and all your American subscribers!
The Separatist had a point but the problem was that the only thing that united the CIS was its hatred towards the Republic. I mean you had members who thought that the central government didn't care about the Outer Rim worlds but you also had corporations who thought that it was interfering too much. If the CIS by some miracle somehow defeated the Republic, it would collapsed faster than the Empire.
Yeah the problem with that is the canon CIS was set up to fail so we can’t use that as the the best idea for how it would turn out
@@theliato3809 Even if the war came out naturally then the Outer Rim would've been defeated. Similarly to the OTL's Confederacy during the American Civil War, it lacked both population and industrial capacities to win. The best they could hope for was forcing the enemy to give up on conquering them because it would be too costly.
@@Kubinda12345 the confederacy wasn’t the outer rim. It had elements in all the major regions of the galaxy
@@theliato3809 Yes, but its support base was mostly in the Outer and Mid Rim.
@@Kubinda12345 Yea but the outer and mid rim wasn't not populated. The genosians were producing large amounts of war material, along with various other planets. It was more sparsly populated compared to the core, but it still had a large supply chain that could compete with the republic. The main problem with the republic was it refused to draft and get its citizenry involved. The only veterans were clones which made it easy for the horrors of the war to go unnoticed and uncared by the general populace (intentional). But, if the republic actually used its vast population it would have won easily.
To put SW issues into the context of this weekend's holiday is truly brilliant. What a smart guy and great speaker.
Love this channel!
I love Kulaks!
0:18 I thought in schools we learned that the US led world in a massive air counter attack against the alien invaders with President Lonestar and Cousin Eddy leading the charge while Will Smith fired a nuke into the mothership
I thought it was Area 51 rebelling
Don't forget Dr Chaos and his computer virus
@@4EyedRocker life found a way
One problem is the Galactic Republic was too big. Every single state in Earth’s history that got too big imploded mainly from internal problems, though an outside force could deal the killing blow. Rome got too big, causing instability which Augustus tried to fix by replacing the oligarchy of the Senate with autocratic empire. In Star Wars, Palpatine manipulated disaffected members of the bloated Galactic Republic in order to turn it into the tyrannical Empire.
Yeah the galactic republic was definitely too big. I always thought they should have let the separatist leave and tax them for any trade within republic territory.
@@MrDiplomatSwag Yeah, looking at the map I always felt that you could have the galaxy be split in two, with both sides trading frequently and ensuring that the galaxy is stable without being too large.
@@shcdemolisher
It's a nice theory, but it rarely works out well in practice.
Witness India and the Partition.
Too many people get pushed onto the side of the line that they don't want to be on. So instead of a Civil War, you get interminable "liberation movements", border clashes and terrorism.
Also no fun.
@@kenle2 The difference to real countries is that people in star wars rarely live in different systems or even planets at the same time.
@@die_buecher7090
But they would still be under the laws and requirements of a overarching government that would overrule their planetary government in many aspects.
The people who end up on the "wrong" side of the galactic border would probably resist being so "overuled" in local matters.
Which inevitably happens with any government the encompassed local people didn't consent to joining.
No taxation without representation!
The Separatist Alliance did nothing wrong.
Happy 4th of July!
they had representation though
Happy Treason Day, Rebels
Taxation on those dang dolphins!
Very interesting!
Maybe a "SWTOR Sith Empire: Breakdown, History, and Possible Collapse"?
As well as Eternal Empire.
That would be interesting
Imagine having oner a million senators, because the Republic had over a million members 😮 Nothing, literally nothing could have been accomplished! 😂
I have an idea on how to fix that
Instead of pure representative democracy
You could have sectors in which they would have their own planets and government that then have a sector of nearby worlds that would vote on the issue and whoever got the majority in that contest would be giving the vote in the galactic senate to the resolution they picked
It’s like the electoral college
They should have divided the legislative branch into two parts. A lower chamber and upper chamber. The lower chamber would have 1(or more if you want to tie it to population too) member from each inhabited world. The upper chamber would be composed of no more than 1500 members chosen from the lower chamber by the members of that chamber. All legislation would be drafted and debated on by the upper chamber. Once a piece of legislation was finally completed it would be sent to the lower chamber for a simple yes/no vote. Members of the lower chamber would represent the interests of their constituent planets, those of the upper chamber would represent the Republic as a whole.
Why only 1500 in the upper chamber? Because political science here on earth has shown that legislatures larger than about 1500 members are too large to govern effectively.
@@luigimrlgaming9484 they sort of did, the Republic had millions of members but not everyone had a representative in the senate. Some species/people had to share a senator with a neighbouring species/people because they weren't important enough to warrant their own senator. A few examples of this are the senator of Mon Cala is a Mon Calamari and also the senator for the Quarrens and the Wookie senator is also the Senator for the Trandoshians. To make things worst in the outer rim alot of the member worlds had no senators at all.
@@joshuahogan3475 But wouldn't that mean that the upper chamber representatives would always end up being from the sectors with more planets/lower chamber members than the sectors with fewer planets? People would most likely vote for upper chamber members from their own sectors instead of someone else's, so the sectors with fewer planets would consistently get screwed on upper chamber representation and would be unlikely to influence the outcome of the yes/no legislation, so they'd never get to propose or debate on new legislation and they'd be powerless to stop legislation that might be damaging to their sector.
@@aliciaaltair you solve that problem by capping the maximum number of seats a planet can have in the lower chamber. I'd suggest 10 as a good upper limit. Yes higher population planets would have more sway in the lower chamber but there would be enough low population planets that a coalition of them would easily outnumber the larger planets. Using this system, population would still matter without completely silencing the voices of smaller worlds.
And let's face it, even without an upper cap it is still better than what the Old Republic had. That system was absolute garbage.
Question for you. I've always wondered why the old Jedi who practiced both sides of the force never came back. The sith seem to come back no matter what and so have the standard Jedi. Plus you would think any alienated populations who discovered the force wouldn't develop a strong affinity towards one side very rapidly.
I've wondered the same thing. I was hoping that Episodes 7, 8, and 9 would explore a paradigm shift in Force Philosophy towards what you described.
A "new school" emerging competing with Luke's classical school of Jedi education/training.
That would be really cool. If the grey Jedi had a planet or a location where they would except force users who seek true balance with the force without an agenda besides not embracing the light or dark too heavily.
@@theyoungkulaks3381 I think that’s a big miss for the new trilogy. Would have loved to see something new like that in play 🔥
They DID actually. The Lore is full of both examples and even exceptions of particular races seeming ALWAYS TO be predisposed toward one side of the other
@@robertagu5533 well I would love videos covering their history then.
"No taxation without representation"
Puerto Rico: Am I a joke to you?
Interesting how the galaxy *during* the Empire heavily restricted firearms possession among private citizens the closer it got to the Core then again, the Empire had Star Destroyers.
Edit: switched after for during
It’s almost like when governments take away the right to bear arms, it’s because they’re about to do something they would be shot for doing
@@bigredwolf6 yep, I mean the number if restrictions they did to the Wookiees was disgusting.
Sounds familiar! This is why I celebrate the 4th of July! 2nd amendment all the way! Ain't nobody taking my guns!
@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 the Wookiee wouldn’t need as many weapons to rebel even
@@luigimrlgaming9484 yeah you are right, the Aftermath novels at least left that clear.
Representation, even inadequate representaion, can lead to or at the very least "boil" seperatists sentiments. Look at the modern United States, there are too many different peoples all being forced to live under an increasingly inept and negligent government (and thats just at the National level). What works for the Black shop keeper in NYC, doesnt work for the White farmer from Rural Kansas. Under the US system both these guys have representation, but in reality the Black shop keeper has to share representation with millions of other individuals and the White rural farmer, who "technically" has better represention, is ruled by people thousands of miles away who know nothing, and dont care, what he does (even at state level's there is often disconnect). Its not a good situation, and whether he intended to or not, Lucas has a very good meta-commentary on the state of the US, and other massive large nations across the globe suffering from devolution, relative deprevation, and inadquate (or nonexistent) representation.
I feel that he looked more at history in general for it, as it's happened before with large empires, like the Romans and others. So we're just seeing a repeat of those events just in modern times in America, and no one really wanting to learn or do anything to fix it.
If carti was there Abe would’ve been packed lmaooo 😂
The Senate should have extended it's number of members, kind of like a artificial planet, which would better explain why the death star was so quickly built, with little notice, but would give the feeling of representation.
Also, how I see star wars, though highly advanced, did not automate to the level anyone should have, or at least what is seen. Perhaps a 'direct deposit' type of taxation, that would allow for lower need of tax agencies, fewer bureaucrats, or at least fewer seen, that would at least give an illusion of less government as it is one that is 'known' but not 'heard' until needed, pissing off the people less, but each ordinary citizen would be allowed to chose where their taxes went, instantly, and things that individual cared about, and again, without bureaucracy getting in the way, which goes back to having a less pissed off populace....in our own world, we are probably almost there, or at a point to start testing such a method of taxation.
Finally, the Galactic Republic should of had less reliance on the Jedi, that direct deposit taxation should of gone to the Judiciary forces for better law enforcement and providing for a more stable military at all times to show some form of stability and security, which could have given the public a feeling of security and outsiders the knowlage that the Republic is not to be challenged.
It is said ,,,"History repeats its self " . Possibly true in other Galaxys ,
Living in the birthplace of the American Revolution, totally enjoyed that EPIC history lesson. 😂❤
Thank You for The Nuance in Your Videos Really Refreshing to hear Someone Take Both Sides into Account
Can you please continue the separatist alliance system earth series please
General Kenobi
You can understand and feel the frustration.
When you said the Sith Empire is not the right alternative, I am a bit disappointed. Sure, the Old Sith Empire might not be the right one. But the one established by Darth Vitiate may be the right candidate for this. Why? The fact that his Sith Empire lasted for a thousand and three hundreds years in hiding is something to be admired. Because the very strong economy is required to build a massive Imperial Military and Navy in secret from the known galaxy.
Did you even visit Dromund Kaas? There isn't even a paved road between the main spaceport and the capital city
@@Raleyg I only watched people on CZcams played the game time and time again.
lol sounds like another capital city i know
@@lerneanlion Trust me. The Sith Empire might look impressive and have a powerful military, but behind the scenes it is falling apart
@@Raleyg And I have a feeling those like Darth Marr, Darth Mortis, Darth Ravage and Darth Vowrawn cannot prevent the Empire from falling apart either, right?
DON'T TREAD ON ME!
you are a fucking inspiration in this grimm world
and it makes me feel hopeful to see, that there are people like you in this world!
In the dolphin empire, you will receive fair representation with low taxes
DEATH TO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!
I've always wondered why the senate didn't devide the seats by system. The seats have eneugh space for multiple representatives so why not?
Sound like at some point the Republic Basically Strecht itself to thing to properly function.
Hello there
Rest in peace techoblade
General Kenobi
Wonderful episode!
Can we just talk about the Clone Wars from now on. It's my Star Wars safe space.
love this channel!!
how about space battle ship yamatto vs the republic? or the empire? or the first order?
Alan back from Poland safe and sounds ❤
We do a little bit of taxation
You gotta be careful with your jokes. Someone might believe you
Hey bruh, truly enjoy your vids.
Great video as always.
Taxes are worse than death
Fallout 4 fans be like: _Museum of Freedom flashbacks_
Please do a fest fantasy army and monster series
You forgot to cue in the Rock powerbalad after the video, as well as the scenes of Blade, Buffy, John Carpenter an others killing Vamps too.
The Separatists were the good guys
The seps were the good guys.
The Star Wars had more habitable worlds than in our universe
Ye
Should there be age and term limits for politicians (in all universes)?
theoretically, yes and no, depending on what those are and what they do
No, if you think someone is to old, don’t vote him
@@georgemurdock7670 who's to say 80 years old mean's the same to us than to an alien, theoretically, there should be, but since there are so many alien species with so many different ages and mindest, it's not as easy as you may think
I don't know about other places, but I think my local politicians should first of all only be 4 years at most in a higher position at a time, and during that time they should not be paid more than the lowest local wage limit, and after the 4 years, the money they have earned should be frozen and they should try to "survive in the real world" for at least 1 year.
Term limits are mostly a moot point. Remember, most actual governing is done by unelected bureaucrats in the federal agencies. Theyre all appointed, and hired by said appointees. Thats why you can have that c--- DMV lady whos been there for 50 years and cant be fired.
Thursday, the Supreme Court handed a major victory to the American people via West Virginia vs. The Environmental Protection Agency, essentially stating that the EPA couldnt make broad sweeping "laws" without congressional approval (as it should be), and likely this ruling will apply to all other executive federal agencies such as the CDC, ATF, DoT, etc. If youre American, lobby your elected representaitves to reign in out of control agency's and return those agency's to advisory/enforcement entities as they are supposed to be.
Hello I’m there
Koh to yah
A million is a really big number.
I know there's way more planets in a galaxy, but at least 1 in 10,000 may sustain life.
It's possible that one senator could represent two or more star systems. Like tatooine beingbthe capital of the hut space
@@blackpowderkun
But still, even 10 thousand would be a lot of systems including breathable mining colonies like mustafar.
The Galactic Republic's BIG problem is the same problem shared by the majority of galactic governments. BIG government. The bigger a government apparatus gets the more self-serving it naturally becomes. It also becomes more and more isolated from the People, and inevitably becomes an enemy to those People. This is the natural order.
Want to avoid these things? Keep your government small and in check.
👏👍
Wait so us brits r vampires now
Just a comment for the algorithm
In the US, you can work and get taxed if you’re younger than 18, but you still can’t vote.
Also at 17, you can work, get taxed, and join the military with parental consent and you STILL can’t vote.
So I say we shouldn’t tax kids under 18. They can work, just don’t tax them. And don’t let anyone under 18 join the military.
By thasked they go to boot camp they have to be 18. Maybe do more research before commenting something half assed.
@@cn2673 this is objectively false , there's no metric which indicates an 18 yo has a better understanding of or more relative responsibilities that relate to nor is impacted less by the vote in comparison to a 17 yo
@@cn2673 which might be a valid argument if you were comparing 30 with 20, not 17 to 18, there isn't even a valid psychological argument there, the stage of development considered adulthood/the end of adolescent development of the mind starts at 25 , a 16 yo is about as capable of considering their own future and making decisions that influence it with an understanding of it's impact on them as an 18yo, & that doesn't mean a 16yo is great at that, but niether is an 18yo, they are very comparable, & the cases where they're not are greatly reduced when comparing a 17yo to an 18yo. 18 is pretty categorically not the 'absolute minimum' when using any logic based argument as a reference, particularly when considering both other comparable aspects of society younger people do participate in & the voting age already being younger in some parts of the world.
@@cn2673 whatv do you have against long term education exactly ?
@@cn2673 17yo's in dedicated long term education rather than early employment typically are going to be both better educated on what their vote will do & contribute more to society in the long term. ie those not yet paying taxes , it's just as incorrect to deny the vote on those grounds to a 19yo in long term education who's not paying taxes as they're prioritising education over work as a 17yo in those same circumstances.
So much for democracy.
I don't like taxes
Not how economic growth works.
Like
damn colonials ;)
Hello there
General Kenobi
This was republic propaganda. The sith empire didn't fail on its own. Thr republic comitted genocide on them several times.
God bless the USA!!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Seriously have to fix that "hum" sound in the background.
Sounds like America today
To those Americans who say “no taxation without representation”, I say “no protection without taxation”.
The British Empire had spent a lot of money protecting the North American colonies from the French and that protection had been welcomed by the colonists so the North American colonists had a moral obligation to pay for that protection and the British Empire was morally justified in levying taxes on the North American colonists to pay for that protection, especially as the North American colonies were taxed at a lower rate than people in England and in other British colonies.
Providing representation to the North American colonies in Parliament would have been incredibly impractical because of the distances involved and how long it took for information to travel between the North American colonies and England, meaning that if there was an election then the North American colonies wouldn’t be able to appoint any representatives for months. Furthermore, any “representatives” of the North American colonies would have had so little contact with the North American colonies that they would have been so out of touch with the colonists and their needs that there would have been no point in the North American colonies’ representation.
Moreover, the modern day USA is hypercritical in regards to taxation without representation because they tax the residence of Washington DC at the full rate without giving them any representation (with the power to vote on laws) in Congress. The USA also taxes minors who cannon vote on laws and is notorious the taxing its citizens who live in other countries (despite supporting the condemnation of other countries that used to do the same).
The British Empire was morally justified in taxing the North American colonies, although US citizens do get some protection from the US military in other countries (e.g., being rescued by US Navy SEALS if kidnaped by pirates), US citizens who live outside the USA pay as much tax to the US Federal Government as people who live in the USA but do not receive all of the services and benefits that those taxes pay for so, morally, if the US Federal Government is going to tax them it should do so at a lower rate (like the British Empire did).
The British Empire was justified and fair when it taxed the North American colonies without representation but the USA is neither.
Um no…. You take my money I get a voice. Simple as that.
Hey dumbass. DC was NEVER supposed to be loved in. It was a place to go work & LEAVE. Go read the US Constitution & founding fathers writings.
You also forget that Britain's soldiers in the Colonies were really unfair to colonists and how they applied the law. Kinda like corrupt cops that had the power to do anything to you and the citizens had no recourse because they had no voice.
@@901Wes Um no.... You accept my protection; I get to tax you. Simple.
The colonists chose to move to the North American colonies with the full knowledge that they would not receive any representation in Parliament and they were more than happy for the British Empire to spend a lot of money using its military to protect the North American colonies from the French so it was reasonable to tax them without representation to cover the costs of protecting them that the British Empire had already amassed.
Providing representation to the North American colonies would have been pointless, logistically difficult, and expensive.
For any information to reach a representative of the North American Colonies in London it would have to be brought (either by letter or messenger) on a ship across the Atlantic Ocean and that took an average of 7 weeks.
That not only meant that news from the colonies would not have reached any representatives for a long time, but also meant that it was impractical for any representative to visit the colonies to speak with the colonists as it would take an average of 3.5 months just to travel there and back, while gathering information about the needs of the colonists would probably have taken a couple of weeks so any representative who attempted to personally observe the situation in the colonies would have to devote at least a third of a year to just make one visit, which would not be practical and could have caused them to miss votes on issues affecting the North American Colonies’ interests.
Therefor any representatives of the North American Colonies would have had to stay in England and reply on other people providing them information about what was going on in the colonies and the needs of the colonists but that information would aways be at least a month and a half out of date (although it would often be much more out of date than that) and the representative would not know how actuate the information provided to them would have been.
This means that any representative of the North American colonies would have to rely on outdated information and that information.
Moreover, the physical separation would lead to any representative of the North American colonies not caring about them as much as the colonists themselves and it would be likely that they would have ended up pursuing their own interests instead of the interests of the colonists.
Modern politicians often forget the people who they are supposed to represent and instead get caught up in so called “bubbles” around centres of politics (e.g., modern politicians in the UK get caught up in the “London bubble” which causes them to mistake the views of Londoners for the views of the population as a whole and to forget about their constituents). That problem would be much worse in the case of representatives who were representing colonists who were too far away to visit, to hear up to date news from, or to regular communicate with.
Therefor providing representation to the North American colonies in Parliament would have been pointless.
Furthermore, providing representation to the North American colonies in Parliament would have been both logistically changeling and expensive due to the need to coordinate elections across the Atlantic Ocean without any telecommunications and to keep the representatives up to date with the situation in the colonies. That would have likely have increased the taxes being levied on the North American colonies.
@@admiralgree3873 While its likely that there would have been a few isolated incidents of British soldiers mistreating colonists, incidents of British soldiers mistreating colonists were rare as the British soldiers shared the same culture as the colonists, lived in the same conditions and generally had no reason to mistreat colonists.
The British soldiers did have an incentive to be nice to them in the form of needing to get along with the colonists as they lived along side them and that wouldn’t have wanted their neighbours to hate them.
Varietally all of the criticism of British soldiers comes from incidents where they shot colonists in self defence during “protests” (which were actually attacks) by the colonists or from the soldiers enforcing unpopular laws (e.g., the laws against violating the treaties with the American Indians). In those the cases the British soldiers didn’t actually do anything wrong.
Me: "good, maybe making this video will open his eyes, make him realise how messed up it is everytime he parrots that 'my allegiance is to democracy' line, and help him notice the hypocrisy in that."
Him: "...but no matter how messed up they were, they were still the best possible government system in the galaxy.
'Murica! 🇺🇲🦅⭐"
🤦🏻♂️
Dude you are like one of my favourite star wars CZcamsrs! However I'd recommend keeping politics (IRL) out of your videos man. You basically have just roasted all your British viewers right at the start of your video which they probably won't be cool with!?
Is there still a "war" in Ukraine?🤣😂🤣😂