Timbersled VS Polaris Assault
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AJ explores the rise of TimberSled and compares it to the 2017 Polaris Assault 144.
Interested in Timbersled? Visit their site here:
www.timbersled.com/en-ca
More of a sledder? Follow this link to Polaris:
www.polaris.com/en-ca/snowmobi... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Reminds me of when snowboards became popular. They didn't replace skiing, they just introduced more people to more ways of enjoying the snow.
ponycarfan same for sxs and ATV. One is no worst
I was thinking that exactly as well
Snowboards revolutionized skiing in a positive way because it challenged a mindset. The same can be said for snowbikes and snowmobiles.
Moral of the story: If you like winter, get a sled and a snow bike and double your fun :)
Larry Laffer i do!
One you freeze on the other you don't
The best option would be to get a dual sport dirt bike with a Timbersled raw kit. You can ride the bike on the road and dirt when it's hot out ,and once it starts to snow you can install the Timbersled kit.
..and destroy the bike in 1/2 the time, having to rebuild every year..If you can afford it, buy a sled, dedicated Timbersled, and an off road summer bike and a KTM Super Duke R..now thats it!
@@someboomer5599 Mate, 4 strokes are a thing. I can ride my KLX300 all winter and summer and all I have to do is 2 oil change a year and swapping from wheels to sled.
@@EstebanDVO the klx 300 has enough power for running tracks? I have an older klx 300 and I can't imagine that. I've been thinking my 04 xr 400 might not even have the power, but I have no idea im genuinely wondering
Not trail legal, that doesn't stop me or anyone where I live.
Ronnie there trail legal and always have been at least where I live
Both sports NEED to tone down their COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY PRICE gouging!!!! They aren't cars!!! Don't price them in the car category...maybe u would sell more, HONDA, KTM, YAMAHA, POLARIS/BRP, Skidoo, etc. Kia made cheaper vehicles at one point, so did Hyundai
I thought the same until i realized the amount of R&D that goes into these machines. In addition they are not selling many units at all when compared to automobiles. Almost 1Million F-Series Ford Trucks sold in 2018 vs. In 2018 there were 124,786 snowmobiles sold worldwide; 53,179 were sold in the U.S. and 47,024 were sold in Canada. They are definitely not price gouging with numbers like this.
I'm looking to get into a dirtbike for the first time and im getting sticker shock...a 2020 yz125x= 7k+ and a nice ktm is 10k. Snowmobiles are about double that after tax.
@@jay101379 Good point. That's probably why in the 70s snowmobiles had veeeeeeery primitive technology, design and build quality compared to cars of the same age. It's much better the last 20 years or so though.
Agreed. Especially because even a mildly used sled is about half the price. You can find a near brand new sled for around 6.5k on the lower end. Just let someone else get a brand new sled then buy it a couple years later the price will drop like crazy
The problem is all the dipshits that keep buying them. "Oh the r&d blah blah blah" sleds havent made a significant step forward in over 10 years and sled prices continue to soar every year. Why do you think sport atvs and side by side atvs have become wildly more popular for powersports in general? They were cheaper. Now they aren't, cause what happens when things get popular? Corporations decide to make more money.
Wow, crazy steep, back and forth, then right up that huge pillow. Dang it. Looks fun!!!
Ya you hit the nail perfectly on the head, well said. cheers
I have only ridden older style snowmobiles through mountain ranges and powder and absolutely hated them... spending hours pulling a heavy ass machine out of the snow half the day. I am sure the newer models are better... but the snowbike option looks way more appealing because of it's light weight and agility in comparison... but I'd have to try in person. You have much more experience with snowmobiles than I do. Nice video...
Reminds me of the decisions when you buy a Jetski - its far easier to ride a seater and especially big tours are easier, but the standup jetski is just the fun heavy toy that you want to have to kill some time.
No.
I want to see more relaxed or fun content with the duo. Just them having fun challenging each other having a blast.
The snow bike looks awesome. 25 years ago i use to take my yz250 out in the snow and had a blast with it! Im 50 now and ride quads but looking at getting another yz. I miss the old 78 yz250 i had. If i do get one ill definitely be looking to get this kit if its not too crazy expencive.
It is pretty expensive
Great video. What's your thoughts on a revers trike with the snow bike mod ? Would it work beater on trails ? I'm trying to shop for a toy for my micro camping kit. It's like van life. Les is more.
4 minutes of him saying the exact same thing over and over again
Trying his marketing strategy because the big drawback is NO HEAT
@@j.ochsenreiter
Wear heated gear.
and the destruction of the engine..
Is there races for these machines yet? Like an enduro race ? Very cool
I can see a couple of advantages to the bikes but in my opinion the disadvantages far out weight the advantages. No way would I give up my mountain sled for one.
But for me a Mountain Sled is like a Ship compared to my dirtbike. And i think for people like me, that are mostly riding bikes, you have something for the snow without riding something that different...
I have a new Polaris sled now but always considered one of these… How are they on hard packed trails and crossing roads etc
you guys have any mapping tips for the cold weather?
How does the timberlsed balance without the gyro affect of wheels?
I think that’s the Ultimate combo. Polaris Switchback assault or khaos w/ 800-850 , 144”+ X 2”+ track (crossover sled bias off trail) and a timber sled bike like a husky Fe501s so in the summer you got an amazing capable dual sport bike (Supermoto) to go literally anywhere.
Here in Finland snowbikes are legal so how is actually the turning on trails or roads?
Hi do you think 250 bike is better or 450? I am planning to get a Yamaha to this conversation.
there is a comprimise. its called a snowhawk. blends the two machines. more trail friendly, more horsepower in the deep. snowmobile clutching. alot of guys have been modifying the old hawk, with snowbike skis, snowmobile suspensions like tmotion, longer tracks, bigger luggs, those machines are friggin insane!!
problem is that the snow hawk does both things worse then either option.
Arctic Cat’s SVX 450? It's not convertible back to a regular dirt bike so it's 1/2 as appealing as a Timber sled.
ircoll a modified snow hawk does not compare with a stock snow hawk in any way!!! its like night and day:)
Sorry, but a snowhawk is still different than a snow bike. All three options have a different feel to them.
Bryce Bohman sure. What im saying is that the best compromise between a snowmobile and a snowbike is a modified snow hawk. Because it blends the best parts from the two machines into one machine. Snowmobile Power with snowmobile clutch. Agility in the trees almost like a snowbike. Deep powder and steep hill climbing capabilities like a snowmobile. Unlimited Sidehilling like a snowbike. Etc etc.
They both have FAR different riding styles. I’ve ridden both. In my opinion it’s essentially a dirt bike vs a quad, just in winter.
Sucks that snowbikes are illegal here in Sweden....
TheLoneWolf074 why though
är dem fortfarande d?
TheLoneWolf074 that's wierd
Their reasoning is idiotic if you ask me. I imagine it's people who have only, and always ridden snowmobiles, that are saying it's bad just because they don't know anything about them, or they prefer snowmobiles anyway, so it doesn't matter to them if they're banned, if that makes sense.
They say that snowbikes dig deeper into the snow and destroys the ground underneath, gets people to places that are harder to get too, which makes them harder to rescue or whatever, and they're apparently louder than snowmobiles.
Here's the article if you'd like to read more. www.expressen.se/motor/ombyggda-crossarna-maste-stoppas/
In my opinion, all of those arguements are completely valid for modern snowmobiles as well, so the only reason I see they're banned is ''Because''.
The sled lobby has nothing to do with it.
I agree snow bikes will not take over but in years to come will be getting alot bigger as u only need one machine for all seasons. Alot like a quad but so much better
Ultra cool video
How about no powder? Just slick stuff. How does the bike handle that?
Snow bike vs Snow Hawk...who wins go! That would be a good video.
What do you mean that the snow bike isn't trail legal?? How would that be?? If you have tabs and registration what's the problem??
I wish I had one looks fun
They cant compete with an actual mountain sled
imo id love to try a timber sled i think they would be fun but this guy is right a long trail trip or long day at all wouldnt be verry comfortable 5 miles and i wouldnt wanna go anymore personally. besides i think sled will always make more power and wider track allowa for more grip. but dont get me wrong timber sleds are EVERY bit of BADASS and the advantages are endless!!!!!!!
They been around almost 20 years and are still in infancy?
so WHY do you think that the bike isn't so good for Trails? I didn't understand what you meant.
I just took up dirt biking this year and I’ve ridden sled before but I’m definitely an amateur. My impression from what I’ve seen is that your overall fitness and skill level on a bike need to be pretty good to get into snowbiking, whereas it’s a lot easier to get into sledding. Has this been your experience?
giobikefans your fitness level needs to be greater on a sled as they weigh 450-550 lbs! A snow bike may weigh 200 lbs. Also snow bike are easier to handle and turn, side hill and boon dock. I'll never go back to a sled after owning a snowbike.
a snow bike would weigh at least 325 ish lbs. a 450 weighs about 225 and a timbersled kit weighs about 135. minus wheels and tires your looking at something about 325lbs
Opposite.
Snowmobiles require crazy strength. They're designed for 200+ lb men.
Snowbike require finesse. You can weigh less than 250 lbs.
They're both getting lighter and more powerful year after year. The snowbike is 100 to 200 lbs lighter. If you're smaller the snowbike is world's better.
@@JM-nt5fm Cool thanks!
I'd love a SnowQuad based on either the Yamaha YZF450r or Honda TRX450R. More sled-like but can keep us moving in the 10 month off-season.
Ten years or so ago, there was a company that made a snow kit for quads, before timbersled was around. My coworker at the Yamaha shop had it on his quad, but it wasn't worth a crap off trail.
Is it hard to shift gear with big snow boots?
Will Brietzke you still have to shift with a rekluse, you just don't need to use the clutch
oshow02 My bad, haven't actually looked into them, just assumed they worked that way.
I wish i could make something really stupid up just to sound like i know what im talking about then just be totally honest at how i just pulled info straight out of my ass after im exposed for being a story fabricator. People are strange, they really are.
I've seen a couple pairs of boots that people have made that have a metal piece to shift with
I'm on my bike trying to grab my front brake, but I can't find it.
As a dirtbiker, I LOVE the idea of timbersleds, but the fact that they aren’t trail legal and the price point being so high, I can’t justify buying one at this time.
I think the answer to the question here is, Mountains vs Prairies.
Not meaning anything absolute but nobody in the Mountains is doing 100km of groomed trail in a day, or 5 days.
So for many in the Mountains the bikes can take over and in many large crowds are.
That being said the extreme performance of sleds lends itself VERY nicely to the mountains as well.
So really is would just seem that the snow community is far more likely to be split in the mountains, where in the Prairies a sled is the clear choice.
also, a snocycle is not in the atv class unless it started out with large low pressure tires ie.."yamaha fat cat" ect.. 215-c:1 is clear, united states and Canada recognize this ruling.of snocycles being a snowmobile. its been that way since 1977 +/_ a few years
Is it possible for there to be a snowmobile/ jetski?
no
I have an Kawasaki kx85 can i have timbersled on it?
I'm not even close my 40s, but does anyone remember when a YZ125 was under $2000?!?!?
Just wait till they make bigger bikes that are purpose built
sled for more open stuff were the snow bike is more for the woods bike rider that want's keep going in to winter
If you don’t want the skidoo then send it here: A5A2B4 Clarenville, Newfoundland
Nice off-road dirt bike on snow
I don't understand how it doesn't overheat.. The radiator gets packed with snow instantly
I didn't even know those bikes existed
Never seen snow in my life.
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Anyone who asks if they are taking over snowmobiling clearly doesn't ride sleds... Only guys I know that ride bikes are moto riders that got into winter riding. I cant think of anyone I know that has given up a sled for one. Not saying they aren't a neat tool to get into the backcountry and sure they have ups and downs, but as far as accessing terrain goes a sled will take you further and higher if you know what you're doing.
What we're seeing is more people buying these kits to ride AS WELL AS their sleds. Both are super fun, but you're right. Snowmobilers love their snowmobiles.
How are snow bikes climbing hills vs a sled?
The sleds just sink and are to heavy
On a straight up hill climb the sled has way more power. I have both
Can you ride those on land ?
Called a dirt bike
Would consider if they were trail legal
Why not put a plate in front of the foot pegs on a snow bike to protect the rider's foot and leg from potentially hitting a stump or rock that is invisible under the snow. I feel like I would be scared the entire time I was riding in the powder that I was going to break my leg on a hidden object. Snowmobiles have a plate like this under and in front of the foot. It seems snow bikes should as well. Is anyone experimenting with this at all to protect the riders legs?
Why aren’t timber sleds allowed on trial
How would a 250 work?
Philipp Scripcariu I’ve heard that they work fine until you have to climb steep deep powder
Mountains like the Rockies they dont at all mind you we ride 800cc and up with 164 and up tracks mostly with 3 inch paddles
Do snow mobiles have a clutch
Big Boy nope
Big Boy they have similar engines to some jet skis
It depends on what you mean. They dont have a clutch you pull with your hand but yes they have a primary and a secondary clutch. They are engaged/disengaged by the motor revs and not with a lever. Snowmobiles also do not shift like a bike. They are one gear...similar to a CVT transmission on modern cars.
Bike needs alot bigger motor like an r6 or bigger
I'm actually really into comparing apples to oranges
Kawasaki H2R Snowbike plz
Bruh I just got a timbersled ad
Thanks for the heart!
Getting to places remote that are really technical isn't a good idea in the winter weather anyways.
Yall are just gonna tick off a yeti and get knocked the fruck out.
I almost fell off the couch laughing....lol
God I wish they made a kit for my 2000 Hyabusa
Wow that would be like the Mcklerine of snow bikes.sighen me up whoever can make one
ELLIOTT ROSE McLaren DBAG
The BIG drawback is NO HEAT! While snowmobile has heat. You'll freeze
Straight up cost prohibitive i got the crf450x ready to kick asz
How is it? Mines obviously a beast in the desert, but i was wondering how itd be with a Timbersled on it cuz the motor is all low/mid grunt and doesnt want to rev out
is it possible to convert a dirt bike to a snowbike?
NitrousGlycerin did you even watch the video...
How snow bike could overtake a snowmobile?? 🤔🤔 oh yeah, you don’t need to rebuild the engine every year!!
there so much $. i would rather buy a new bike
Where’s sled Ed
They are illegal? Where? They seem to be all over in the U.P. of michigan.
I wouldn't suppose that anyone would want to trail ride I bike but just to travel to the next play area anyways.
Trail riding has turned into a nightmare anyway. I don't know of anyone (local) because of all of the weekend warriors and drinking.
....sorry but trail riding is a bar to bar to bar sport
Ain't that the truth
hes in canada
Is like ATV vs Dirt bike....two different beasts.
Timbersleds have nothing on actual sleds. A 55hp dirt bike with a track is slow as hell in the snow, and can't go half the places a sled can.
Hell, a 600cc snowmobile is 120+ horsepower, and even that will struggle in deep wet snow.
Heinrich Von Kekelnazi you also have to take weight into consideration
the thing is that snowbikes are alot lighter than sleds and they have less friction in the snow due to being so narrow. it's like a knife through butter driving them in deep powder
Just had my first snow bike experience. It was, for me, way more fun than the sled. Opens up so much more riding opportunities.
Dirttrax with no dirtbikes HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...EVEEERRRRRRRRRRR
nice sleds for girls
Would I ever ride this in the sand ? Lol
Way under powered
jared bennett you have no clue
yep
500cc 2 stroke is way more power than 500cc 4stroke but other wise gas consuption....
Less power, yes, but waaay less weight as well
jared bennett and one way to kill your engine. Some of these guys aren't even getting one season of riding before they smoke them.
This is like comparing a go cart to a helicopter how tf do you compare the 2 lmao
He launches a snomobile better becouse hes a snow guy not a dirt guy.
Incorrect Information!!, SnoCycles ARE!!! trail legal, because they are technically a snow mobile. as stated in US regulations regarding snowmobiles, please read" TITLE XVIII FISH AND GAME CHAPTER 215-C SNOWMOBILES Section 215-C:1. it clearly qualifies snocycles as a snow mobile, the first snocycle was a 1978 cyrsler snorunner, and it quilifiys and is registered as a snowmobile, one ski or 2 it is still a snowmobile. i have been riding snocycles since 1986, they have evolved and are awesome ON the trail. my current machine ive been riding for 9 years and it is a dream both on and off trail.!! ps anyone can ride a snowmobile, but it takes a dirt bike ridder to handle the cycle!
Mr wiz ive been considering one but is it worth the price
They are in Canada...................
MAKE THEM LEGAL!!! THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FREE COUNTRY!!
this is like comparing chicken and rice. yeah they can go together but there WAAAYYYYY differnt
Snow bikes just take more skill
Not a very good comparrison , huge diference in horsepower .
160 vs 60 seems like a huge hp difference
Power to weight ratio is what really matters, I'm sure the sled will be ahead but I'm sure theyre damn close
Joe Dirt not really. The bike is fun but the power to weight ratio isn't even remotely close to my sled. A sled is maybe 100-150 lbs more with 100 more hp
It’s a downgrade from a snowmobile