Jordan Peterson - The Story begins with Abzu & Tiamat
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2018
- 0:49 The Mesopotamian phenomenological world view supports the Flat Earth viewpoint
4:20 The story begins with Abzu & Tiamat
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TheArchangel911
you know you have watched too many Jordan Peterson lectures when you try to piece them together based on the color of the hijab on the girl in front...lol
Haven't reached that stage yet but would really appreciate you paving the ways for us by making a playlist
The false prophet Muhammad, May he rest in piss.
@@twointhepinkoneinthestink you cant say anrything about islam without a miserable person having to share a miserable comment.
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You are excused.
Hiram Abiff they all come from the same fucking place lmao
Imagine the tattoos he would have if he was so inclined
My Old Testament professor is a doom metal drummer with sick ass tats whose meaning are profound
If he transfered the subject of his speeches to tats it would be a full body tat.
@@HenningBjorn that’s as bad ass as it gets, I’m getting tattooed with Eastern Orthodox iconography and I play guitar for a doom band!!
The dopest statement ever !!! I would image icons for chapters in his books ! # 1 make your bed bucko
Crucifix on his back
Dr. Peterson speaks with passion and raw energy that makes his lectures mesmerizing regarless of the subject matter. It must be great to attend his lectures.
Must be great to be luciferian too!
@@mrpoop123 In the sense that he brings light to one's mind, yes
@@simonemancuso3576 yeah and not love
So easily entertained. Isn’t that what the Bible warns about?
Thank goodness we have smart people like Dr. Jordan Peterson who can figure this stuff out and share it with the rest of the world.
No doubt !
You can read the enuma elish for about 5 bucks. For ten you can read both the Babylonian and Assyrian versions. This lecture does not actually follow either and is such a massive generalisation of the topics covered in order to drive a particular view point that I'd argue is not representative of the myth.
Brilliant. I never made the connection between the god archetypes and our human states (?). Anger, sex, hunger, etc. The fact that these states will be with us forever makes it easy to see how or why they'd be seen as gods. Very interesting.
Thanks for formulating the exact same point I found very interesting aswell
Brilliant
I was hanging out on youtube and heard the name Abzu in my head... Not sure where I got it, but I've been looking into the Egyptian pantheon. I'm Palestinian and my lineage is Coptic so I wonder if somewhere in my neurons are the passed down information that the ancients used to know. Love you all.
This is awesome
His lectures are so good you cant have enough. It was so obvious that people made gods according to their personal experiences yet we on the years present , cant know about their presentation.
I’m this case there’s a bit more to it. They weren’t necessarily gods. Demigods I suppose. Nor were they myth. They’re our creators.
Tiamat is close and visible in the skies now...pay attention folks ALWAYS KEEPNYOUR EYES ON THE SKIES
Eternals brought me here.
Absolutely love this video! Such a cool story!
Thank you!
I just awoke from a dream of this. It was the most realistic dream I’ve ever had. Chaos, Tiamat had erupted forth but I had infected her, fed her the virus of sin. She went mad with power and was seeking more sin to feed her rage. The world was full of terrible technologies but none of the technology could stop the chaos. After a great feeding upon galaxies of life she was sated for a moment and allowed me to return to sanity. A brief point of lucidity while she searched for more fodder.
That moment of sanity is the age of information.
Dig into common law and the genesis of the law covering the territory you inhabit and you may find the ending of Disney's Moana very key. Or Henson's The Dark Crystal, or the Matrix Revolutions, or The Fifth Element.
Also check out searching "Kemetic Creation Story"
This man is among the best of us. Thank you JP
I think mesopotemians knew that life come from water, and thats why the ocean is so rooted in their religion.
Did he ever even mention marduk?
Nicola Morales Ikr xD
Marduk is Tiamat.
lol wait was this a joke?cause it was literally in the first few words he said.lol
@@BoWeava No.
Spotted owl Power in darkness don't tell me what to do.
This is the fundamental symbolic structure at the major turning point of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
The All-father Odin maintained order across the 9 realms (or the cosmic tree Yggdrasil) for thousands of years until a falling out occured between the Trickster Loki (wielder of chaotic deceit) and the Thor (wielder of order, strength, virtue, and lightning).
This falling out led to Odin's eventual disappearance and death, similar to the death of Abzu, which unleashed Hella, the goddess of death who had been held at bay since before Thor and Loki were born. Odin's troubled past returning as Tiamat did, threatening to undermine everything.
This, of course, did happen as her return led to Ragnorok, the end of Odin's reign (or of the old MCU saga) and the beginning of something new after Thor wisely lets go of his glorious kingdom.
Shortly after Asgard was destroyed (death of God, or the highest place in the MCU cosmology), Thanos (translated "Death" from Greek) came onto the scene and brought trillions to dust (nihilism breaking everything apart) in a reverse Genesis Creation Week (6 days of creation in Genesis, day of rest / 6 Infinity stones, Thanos "finally rests on a grateful universe"), leading to 5 years of meaningless despair, which eventually led to a grand resurrection into the next phase of the MCU.
Phoenix-Like death and resurrection.
I know it's 2 yrs after you commented this, but I think if you research Norse Mythology, AND study it's strikingly unchanged form that is actually nearly identically descended from Proto-Indo European people's oldest myths (we're talking about THE oldest stories here- 30k to 100k yrs old maybe), and these Mesopotamian myths are also borrowed from those people. An amazing amount of human culture across the ENTIRE globe was all spawned from the same nearly pre-historic cultures of what is now the Eurasian Steppe (modern day Bulgaria, Turkey, Ukraine, etc). Some academics claim that Norse mythology is surprisingly the MOST IDENTICAL to the earliest stories, and somehow their myths evolved far less over distance and time from their origins.
This is correct ! The heap of the account Marduk, Laban called it Jegar Sahadulah, but Jacob called it Galeeb. And Laban said" this heap is a witness between you and me this day".
Therefore its name was called Galeeb, also Mizpah, when we are absent one from another... And of Levi , he said:
" Let your Thummim and your Urim be with Your holy one "(DNA )
it's all so much clearer now
I just wish I could of been in his classes so interesting
5th time watching this. Loving mythology in this phase of my life now more than other. My problem is the more I study and get into mythology amongst all world 🗺 believes I noticed too many patterns that feel very factual to some extent in my soul. Many Great Deluge Myths 🧐
Same stories, different names.
Are they really myths?
@@sameralak3996💽🔥💧🎭🥑
I was searching Assyrian Anciant Map - Prof. Peterson comes up. AWESOME 🤣
Fantastic. I have read the translation of the enuma eliš and would like to explore interpretation.
The straight and narrow path goes trough some pretty harsh landscapes.
jordan hits peak jordan at 6:15 with the universe creating hands. i love this man
im watching him ramble, enthralled, like bwauh
I'd love to see this whole lecture!
I think it's interesting that we are in water while forming in our mothers womb. Something to ponder.
no one could have me appreciate spirituality more than this guy. i gotta start reading
actually fuck that i’ll just distinguish everyone else’s facts and biases and find out where humanity is headed based on people’s concerns and wonders. then create a path for myself there.
and then know which way i want humanity to head. then be the positive change. to find a significant positive place in the world. my cheat codes don’t fail me.
This man is BRILLIANT. He is up there with all the greats.
Tiamat |ˈtyämät | Tee-O-mat
I’m seeking an elaboration on how to keep culture alive beyond the corpse of culture; How that works , and what it means to make culture- because I do find this fascinating.
please can someone give the link to the full lecture.
czcams.com/video/Nb5cBkbQpGY/video.html Abayomi Oluyemi
@@TheArchangel911 thanks!
8:13 that is a great point.
"The play things of the gods". Are we all just a bunch of AI generated virtual beings? Like a big Sim?
Yes.
Your own
I'm curious if Jordan ever talked about the possibility of ancient aliens.
At around 3:00 he was saying that those ancient pieces of artwork which feature an entanglement of serpents/gods representing the formation of the world. If the modern world only just produced the double-helix model that best represents the simplest structure to genetic material, I'm *ENDLESSLY* curious about his hypothesis as to how those people would've derived the model. Does his idea have something to do with the supernatural/deities, does he think it derived from scientific methods, alien visitors, or something else?
It’s actually much simpler than that. Look up how snakes mate. That’s why it’s often symbolized by the serpents intertwined. It has nothing to do with dna. It’s still fascinating how they tie it into a lot of cultures but it almost certainly just stems from a common observation of snakes doing the do
interesting
3:07 that moment Peterson becomes an ancient aliens theorist
(or just someone who believes in the geat power of human consciousness)
Where is the full video? Thanks
profound explanation, thanks
He did not say much about Marduk.....but did The Professor just explained Flat Earth..🤔?
Now it makes much more sense.
Jenny Nanakan 1:25 😊
PhauxtoN you got it..!!
Exactly....!!!!! What are your thoughts🤔?
Is this from the Maps of Meaning lectures on CZcams?
ultraali453 yes. It is from his 2017 series. This is from #8.
@@TheArchangel911 Thanks, i watched "Maps of Meaning 2017" once. May need to watch more than once. It changed my life.
Thank you for uploading these videos.
TIAMAT is a Swedish metal band.
Their albums “Clouds” & “Wildhoney” are a true revelation.
2:13, Good Example:
Sun and Moon
Got another one for you.
"You eat of my flesh" (SUN) the food we consume is made of sunlight energy.
"You drink of my blood" (Water) water could also represent (Earth)
"Or you have no life in you"
Well then shit, Game of Thrones used that story for their plot then. Emilia Clarke was Tiamat, and Jon Snow was Abzu. Then they killed Abzu, and he came back to life. So his corpse was a symbol of that i think, cuz the whole thing hinged on those two combating chaos.
Marduck was most likely a skilled duck hunter. Mar for mark or marksman and duck obviously for duck.
As he hunted the plains for food resources he figured out that he could win favor with the local people if he gave away or greatly reduced the trading cost of excess he hunted.
Sorry but it's Marduk
DNA double helix reference...
Is that a Fractal scale phenomenon as a opposed to ancient intuition ?
Well another problem is that dna really dosent look like that. We don't know how it looks like since the way we imagine it is just how it looks when cells divide.
Or revelation from God.
It is said that the Gods are descendants of water monsters Abzu & Tiamat
the Chinese picture is 伏羲 and 女娲.
But how could ancient people know DNA?
TheCherrytree123 the highest degree of meaning perceived out of the elemental is realized in both the beginning, and the end of our evolution? The first humans, I like to imagine, understand ontology and the study of essence in the most/more complete interreferential general sense, "the qualitative sense", whereas the last humans have evolved full circle but understand ontology in the higest quantitative sense (hence the perfection of science).
When I learned traditional Chinese medicine, I was told that the acupuncture points were seen by seers or shamans, probably in a trance with psychedelics. Newest Ayahuasca research of the South American shamans Point to similar astral visions of the DNA or the universe. Narby‘s book „The Cosmic Serpent“ will be revelatory.
I came from Chinese culture. It said the ancient doctors "see" the energy points under deep Taoism meditation. But honestly I do not know. I do meditation, but unable to see this
They new the golden ratio. Knowing that every living thing has it entwined in it, it was only a logical conclusion the smallest part looked kind of like that. My guess. That or ancient China had microscopes.
From observing nature...
I need to know what he’s drawing on the blackboard with the mountains/pyramids. Can anyone tell me that?
*0:50** through **1:50* Sounds like a pretty good description of a sphere to me. Its either that...or...HELP! my Third Eye is broken!
Read lyrics from the metal band Bal-Sagoth and search their sources and be amazed!
Also the album Hate from the Dutch band Sinister, speaks a lot about Abzu, Pazuzu and Mummu Tiamat. But Bal-Sagoth is really much more complete.
I’ll check them out, the past couple of years I have been using music to help me with my journey, I learn something new and there’s always a song for it with a message of course
Not the story of marduk but very interesting
Best black metal band \m/
Garbage. You just said that because you had absolutely NO idea what/who Marduk was, so you googled it, found a lame band with that name, and then posted what you read on Google,trying to sound like you have your finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist.
Get a life, loser.
Basic early beliefs often included a more matriarchal emphasis, aka The GREAT MOTHER. over time,as property and paternity were combined, there was struggle and change, of course. It's a fascinating part of our history as humans. And this prototype of feminine does exist today, with Mary, certain east Indian goddesses, in europe.
You're informative but lacking in dates ,,, thanks for the vid!
Crazy knowledge this is all true aswel and it’s on CZcams not very hidden is it 😅
God of earth
Yes it did
Actually, mating snakes wrap their tails together, so it's rather pure observation. But other than that I have no objections.
I agree
Just curious, is the Flat Earth theory that of Jordan Peterson or what's recorded in the Mesopotamian records? FYI Nimrod, the son of Kush (Which is in Africa), was who created that civilization and I think the ancient Kushites knew the world wasn't a flat disk for the simple fact that they sailed and populated the entire globe.
I like how he pronounces Tiamat
Noah = Knower = Gnosis
Does Genesis take place after Tiamat? Or at the same time? How do we know? Thanks.
Two separate cannons. Mesopotamian creation myth is not Christian creation canon.
@@degenerate6109 Christian mythology basically rewrites existing stories and makes them their own. It's all BS anyways.
wheres the rest of these talks ?
@6:30, "Release the Kraken!"
To truly understand the story behind this myth, you need to learn more about Zacharia Sitchin's The 12th Planet. The story tells the creation of our solar system. The gods are representations of the planets. Apsu is Helios, our Sun the Father symbol. Tiamat as the third planet is the Mother symbol, collides with a 12th planet called Marduk, who splits Tiamat in 2 mayor parts & smaller parts that becomes the asteroid belt. One of the mayor parts becomes Earth. It's an amazing story .
Neat thank you!! I am going to try to find that book now!
Actualy 2 snakes is the caducous and is often mistaken for the staff of asclepious learned that on criminal minds lol
Makes sense tbh so it’s not just 1 god it’s the masculine and feminine spirit of both that comes together and creates The ALL
09:46 love jorden peterson´s female voice LOL...
6:30 the name was TIFON
Do you think that at one point the beta civilization that lead to the babylonian society worshipped absu at some point, before they got to this stage of belief?
Mr, Peterson it's what "Genesis 1:27 " is about. Two in one. The chaos is in the splitting of the two. Like an atom.
more like mitosis (cell division)
It's also the separation of Tyamat into Earth (the waters below) and the asteroid belt (the waters above, Heaven), at least for the Sumerians. Tyamat= watery planet destroyed by Marduk (a comet or rogue planet), it's remains form both Earth and the asteroid belt and one of it's satellites, Kingu, becomes our Moon.
Id like Peterson to discover Mauro Biglino
Where is the rest of the story?
At 6:35 he tries to mention greek titans and Thartarus that is where the titans are locked, zeus represents order and the titans are personifications of primordial forces
This professor is hot and intelligent❤
Is JP an Ancient Tech believer?
hahahaha video games and cheeto dust
I love tobasco sauce
Thank you Al. Very cool
Frank's all the way baby!
The habanero one is the best
Lol idk how i get here but I'm watching to know more about tiamat because a game call smite just going to add that God
DNA. The double helix is seen in the patterns of branches of a tree, and the spiral of the Galaxys
The two giant snakes are me and my wife. Magni and Afrodite.
How ironic to come across this video on the feast day of corpus christi
What i dont understand is. JP being as knowledgable as he is especially about ancient cultures and religion
And knowing all modern religions are copy and paste.
That he still believes in Christianity and Jesus Christ as truth.
Does not make sense
Why did the gods (actually it was Enki that did it) kill the Apsu? Because Tiamat told the gods of Apsu's plan to kill them. Nothing to do killing culture. I'd say it more has to do with the end of one era and the ushering of a new. Our universe is built and nourished by the corpse of it's older form. Those primordial powers are no longer active indivuduals, but insteast have become the home for more dynamic powers.
*What?*
Mahyem's Worthless abominations destroyed brought me here
An astral battle of planetary collision maybe?
Has the damaged goddess of chaos returned?
Yes, Tiamat/Mother Earth is the one getting rid of wickedness right now.
How exactly was 0:49 support for globe denial?
1:19 He's asks "What does the World 'look' like?"
Metaphors can get out of hand...if you let them.
Conclusion where is my money?
Flood was a bad Nephilim gene that make the giants too noisy.
Some smirking clown faced woman smirking talking into her hand 🫢at the register in front of me , made it a point to walk past me saying " its a worm " i just stayed stoic & whispered back( threw my voice )" your a clown" . ⚕️🦁⚡🧬✨ . # listen to mr peterson # I TOLD YOU ! # they are trying to usurp God # the Elohim # The" I AM ". # Shinning ones .
Sometimes i feel i am small child looking for father and fight no reason i don't know what happened to me why i am like this completely different from all at a time felt different according to situation i gave messages hope you understand me hope i am not hurting you my behaviour
If only they knew the earth was flat
Wow. It’s Brandon. You got famous quick. Let’s go.
The dragons serpants play a big part in this I believe it’s a dragon masculine energy and a serpent feminine energy like a hybrid gene
Hefesto is the god who Peterson cant remember
Yas Kween. The entwined encoiled DNA
Marduk = Human - in Armenian!
Interesting. Is Tiamat Earth?
vrezh bozukyan You, sir must watch a lot of CZcams.
@@twointhepinkoneinthestink Yes, Tiamat is Mother Earth
I think the flood IS order in a world full of chaos.
Like a snow globe?
Its similar when Ymir descendants kills him and he becomes the world itself
Tiamat and Leviathan are one in the same.
They bear some similarity.