Jordan Peterson - If you aren't willing to be a fool you can't be a master (Circumambulation)
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- Dr Jordan Peterson talks more in depth about the Jungian concept of the Circumambulation of the Self.
C.G. Jung: “There is no linear evolution; there is only a circumambulation of the self…”
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“It doesn’t matter that it’s imperfect. It just matters that you do it and you move forward.” This is so freeing.
same thoughts. keep it up.
Spot on. 🙏
That's the best quote
Once you realize that only God is perfect as an Artist all your art is truly free thereafter. Do not constrict nor contract your expression. Wether it be with pen, paint , brush, cloth... DO NOT THINK. FEEL.
DO NOT BE AFRAID TO MAKE MISTAKES.
LET GO! SCRIBBLE
DOODLE
SKETCH
FREEHAND
LIKE YOUR DEFINING FORMS OUT OF FORMLESS CLOUDS.
True art is truly free. Paint, write, dance like NO one is watching. You do not try to control Love ay? So why try to control the love you feel? Why try to control how,why, when, you feel love/emotions? Why try to control your personal expression of this Love? Why DOUBT your hands? Your eyes? Your moment, this moment, of expressing yourself as a human by human means of expressions. To err is Human! So go on human ERR! Lol. This whole fallen dimension was caused by Adam and Eves err/mistake And look at the beauty of this plane of this fallen life.
Ones art is a personal expression of ones heart feeling spirit.
No ones art is perfect. But Gods.
Picasso himself said that every child is born an artist. The Trick is remembering that you are the child artist. He could paint however he wanted, all styles, all techniques... but in the end he was always trying to paint as a child. As a child, not a man with a ego and doubt, and perfectionism in his mind. To be all heart rather. To be pure emotion, to FEEL , to make mistakes and accept mistakes. To be truly free.
So that his art was a genuine reflection of his spirit, not an false image of what the world deemed “good art” should look like.
Yea, I say again FEEL, HURT, PAIN, SUFFERING, EMOTION, EMPATHY and the amount that an “artist” feels these things determines the amount of greatness that is embodied in ones “Art.”
“Do not be afraid of perfection. You will never attain it. “ Salvador Dali
God Bless you all, especially my fellow artists. Sorry for the on n on.
Very true xxx❤️❤️💕💯🙏
“It’s way better to do it badly then not to do it at all”
- Jordan Peterson
then, i've got it down pat........lol but the journey is a real ''hoot'' sometimes
THAN*
This is so true! I have my fair share of setbacks in life. It was tough when suffering through them. Thinking back now, I understand myself way better because of those experience. Thanks for sharing!!
Germany in the 1930s and 40s.
Wrong. Why are you shouting?
than*
10:27 - This is a pricelss mindset. -----> "If you collapse, it's not an indication that you failed... It's just an indication that it's really hard".
It's such a profound statement and a reliever. Also saves you from the endless pain of being a perfectionist. Success is packaged in a series of failures.
I teared up the moment he said this. Thank God for Dr. Peterson
It depends on what you and others consider really hard. Be prepared to be met with laughter from the people whose hardships come easy, or to whom your hardships are for the retarded. I know something about it. Take whatever helps you from those interactions and keep on moving.
"Defeat is a state of mind" - Bruce Lee
This helped me a lot actually. I always hesitated to try new things because i was afraid of failure.
@Sound Soup: Yes. And isn't it a sad commentary on our day and age . . . that receiving this kind of help should be so rare (?) Competent fathers, older brothers, mentors, spiritual advisors, friends . . . where the heck are they all (?)
Arbiter trying to be a better older brother, son, mentor etc. was afraid of failing at that and so I didn’t try for the longest time; same issue there.
@Ian Charles' Art: Props.
Sound Soup I used to have this attitude as a young child, but now I try everything.
@@QED_ They were too afraid to fail so they left.
"Shoot for the moon; even if you fail, you'll land among the stars."
That being said, I really needed to hear this. I grew up, for one reason or another, believing that any problem or difficulty in my life was a result of a personal moral shortcoming.
I'm 33 and finally now realizing that the truth is rather quite the opposite; that failure means I might just be on the right track.
Im turning 32 this April and I’m realizing the same fellas. I just got into Bob Proctor also, very mind opening.
I just turned 65 last week and I know a lot about being a fool ... but reading you guys in the comments here makes me feel so optimistic ... you _all_ sound like heroes to me.
Guys I turned 30 yesterday.
It’s apparent you’re either afraid of God... or using his words cathartically and for the same reasons we smoked way too much weed in our 20’s. Pretending to expand our mind. Exchanging the Truth for a lie
Pragmatic Entertainmentl
Maybe there is no “failure”. Maybe you are evolving through normal ups and downs that spiral upward with each “mistake” ultimately bringing about higher consciousness.
I've grown so much faster listening to Jordan every day! Love this Man!
Me too!! Love you brother
@froimovi, Well, my idea why u might have told me is, that recognizing oneself in another has an awakening effect, since it gives a sense of being existent more objectively. And recognizing one's less successful sides in someone else who mentions theirs straight-forwardly is fun and a relief, because maybe you see that it is not dangerous and that it doesn't make you a bad one. That relieving address can have the effect of you coming alive anew, and maybe want to do sth worthwhile. Why you tell me it , may it be because you aren't enough in touch with yourself yet for it to be enough to tell yourself, but you need someone outside of yourself to tell it to - and I am suitable since it was me it happened with? Maybe it was your true self in a glimpse, the part that wants change, and maybe the hidden part that has been locked in for so long and wanted to be heard?
What has happened to you to prevent you from connecting for some co-work?
What makes you stop there and not write much more?
Are you not used to writing? Are you will-power-weakened from cell phony like most? Are you afraid of sth?
It would sure be interesting to hear your situation outline; did you really recognize everything? do also have 6 bads out of 4? how come you bare stuck or lost, is it self-inflicted or because of many outside restrictions, mistreatment and wrong-doings?
How come you didn't want to connect for mutual self-help? Eager to hear.
How have you grown?
@froimovi how r u? seen my reply?
The truth about wisdom is that the one claiming to be wise is a fool, and the one claiming to be a fool is wise. One of the paradoxical truths of life.
Because one lacks humility and self-knowledge, and the fool has it.
It's called the Dunning-Kruger effect: to know the limitation of your own abilities is the least limitating thing, because it allows you to progress forward in your life. It's not that the fool is a fool, but that he knows and acknowledges that he is.
Nah, I'm a fool and I promise you I'm dumb as hell.
@@mjfan97p Kinda the thought that I had about limits. Nice to know it has a name. The Dunger Kruger effect. Hmm...
You're talking about the Dunning Kruger effect.
I believe that with age some people learn to "let go" of their ego and become more prestigeless and humble, allowing them to accept that they're not that special after all. Sure, it emplies some degree of wisdom but nothing extraordinary - making your statement true but also not.
*"stop over thinking the setbacks and just keep moving forward"*
*SAITAMA* ✊
Phillip Mwenelupembe 💯
i failed myself to success
one of the best thing you could have failed. success is not what will take you further in your self estime ! it will only take you furtherin the eyes of other's self
HOW? Elaborate please
We fail before we succed, that's important knowledge not to give up.
It wasnt failures, it was just miss tries, practice reps, till you got it right.
We only fail when we stop trying.
Task Failed Successfully
“The fact that you are full of faults doesn’t mean that you have to stop.”
I have struggled with suicidal thoughts for years. I loved aspects of my life but certain failures drove me to the brink, and even those failures weren’t necessarily a big deal to other people. This is now the concept that keeps me going.
This quote captures the essence of what self-doubt does to yourself. self doubt creeps in during your first failure at a new idea.
Stopping could mean something like quitting a side hustle or a hobby or interest because it’s not the best, or it could mean life changing decisions like quitting college, your job, your marriage, or even the extreme of stopping your life.
Jordan Peterson is absolutely brilliant.
I’m going to drag this struggle bus all the way to the finish line😂
Great post, I've struggled hard this past year too, but I've decided to keep struggling. I wish you the best.
Tf yet from
This man with a combination of perfectly timed and placed synchronicity type occurrences, saved my life, I was at the bottom, my lifes perception and a habf full of relationships I cherrished completely flipped on me.
Family, childhood best friend, ex girlfriend, and other friends...
All at once, at the beginning of covid, I had realized my life had been a lie.. that those I loved and cared about, never quite liked me that much or in a few cases resented me the entire span of our relationship...
Jordan peterson, I'd say was a good 45% of what helped me pull myself back together.. him God, diving completely into my work. Guided me out.
GOD IS GOOD
I felt like a fool learning to dance.
Exposed and vulnerable to ridicule.
1.5 years later, I can dance! I'm 37!
omg ur my inspiration
“How I’ve been a Horse’s Ass” is the title of a journal that has us take a look at the times that we haven’t been up to par. It doesn’t ask us to beat ourselves up, but just something to keep ourselves and our egos in balance. This is the fourth journal I use by this author. His approach is nicely set up in the journal’s intro.
So, like, what's your point? You think that's OLD? You're funny!
old enough to be stuck in my ways lol@@richardcollier1912
What Peterson is describing is also how science progresses, through testing. All the tests except the last one are failures --- failures that point the way to the next set of tests to find, finally, the solution. Brilliant.
thank the world for this man
I think a higher power than that is involved.
As another commenter brilliantly pointed out: you fail yourself to success. There is no success without failure to create perspective
And the broken places get stronger where they mend.
A university teacher said: "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". I am still wondering whether it is true. Dr Eric Bergs explanation of what death by a 1000 cuts means. That really gave me the shivers of reminder and recognizing. However brave and strong one is, there is a limited number of blows to be endured by a body and a soul. God, help me. Fellow men, help me.
@@Medietos you don't get stronger by getting beat, I think that's where "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" gets wrong. But you do get stronger by getting back up, voluntarily. JP's lecture is all about going towards danger, not having it come seek you. That's a different story.
I’ve got some success, but failure makes me so much happier. I learn the most from failure. Failure is one of the best teachers you will ever have, I promise.
Well said, I'm not afraid of failure. I'm afraid of not trying.
Guess that depends on what's at stake...
So it's all about humility and the ability to learn something new. You have to empty your cup before you can fill it.
I needed this video on my life. "the things you're interested in are the things that will guide you on the path".
I've loved computers since the 90s when I discovered them, I was scared to study computer engineering and learn how to code was super scary. But I'm not scared anymore I'm sure I'm gonna have success!
webmasale good for you ✊🏼
Love this! Bravo!
Did you do it?
To me this is the most important thing I've heard from Dr. Jordan Peterson. I listened to a lot of his lectures, watched a bunch of clips on youtube, interviews, whatever, but this to me is pure gold. It gave stability in my life, just this one clip.
“How I’ve been a Horse’s Ass” is the title of a journal that has us take a look at the times that we haven’t been up to par. It doesn’t ask us to beat ourselves up, but just something to keep ourselves and our egos in balance. This is the fourth journal I use by this author. His approach is nicely set up in the journal’s intro.
I often imagine my life as standing near wild river that could lead me home. The view is beautiful, I could easly adapt to live there, I don’t know what river brings if I jump in. The big question is- stay near river and live there forever or try to jump to find way home. Well, I’m in river now, sometimes beaten by many stones and waterfalls, but after each water torrent there’s magnificant view. I’m so happy to be in river although tired and beaten, but without jumping I wouldn’t see such a beauty. Life is hard and beautiful at the same time.❤️
Great that u are in the river now; you must have learnt how to swim! Should you have rested and mended before jumping in?
I have been in the river without knowing how to swim or having a boat, got so many cold-sips and was hit by logs and underwater rocks, got more and more injured and have sunk from despair and injuries. I wish I was taught to swim as a child. Normals can manage without, but not ans Aspergian. How did it happen that you got in?
@@Medietos She knew there was more to the world than just the riverbank. Wouldnt our lives be so much easier if we had guidance.
Well, we do. The paradox is that the only way to take the jump and let the current take you, must be from you. Deep deep within.
Why do fools and stupid people often run companies, governments etc ?
@@chris1806 I don’t know if this question is adressed to me, but if so, it’s the wrong adress. I don’t think that all people who run company are fools or stupid. I know some company owners who aren’t stupid at all. Even some of my family members have relative big companies (not billionaires, but millionaires) and they are far away from stupid.
It’s about priorities. I don’t have any desire of chasing money, maybe I’m the stupid one.
So what? It feels good to be stupid sometimes;)
If you ”fail” in life, fail harder
The only way to truly “fail” in life is having the fear of failure
Truth
My goodness, this video is so underrated
Brilliant statement - "If you aren't willing to be a fool you can't be a master...." I'm retired and I spent some of my work life "faking it", faking that I knew something, figuring I'd figure it out later rather than risking being a fool and asking a "stupid question" (that probably 50% of the group was thinking about asking, but didn't). The times in my life that I risked being a fool turned out to be the best for me in the long run. So...if you're young and in the workforce, listen to this man! It's pure gold. Risk being a fool and learn....
I've approached 358 women so far for dates.
Some people would criticize me or look slack jawed.
If I didnt approach, I wouldn't learn.
I have a date tomorrow!
Jesus christ that might be the worst record ever😂. Getting a girlfriend is easy as shit nowadays. Ur game must be weak af
It's not about 'the game', it's about having a deep mind and a strong will that reflect into your gaze. It requires more profound things than having a new shitty technique, it's about being, and it's precisely what this video is about.
@@Hulgore it is about game. U need either money, drugs or game to get girls nowadays.
Good for you Thomas.
@@Filo2211 you are the problem! It's your mind set!
"Do or do not; there is no try." Master Yoda
Correction, "No. Try not. Do, or do not. There is not try."
@@hardpathpoet2859 Fail correction lul
@ HardPathPoet: How about in Latin (?): "Faciendum aut non. Illic est non experiri".
10:29 “You must unlearn what you have learned.” - Master Yoda
Only a sith deals in absolutes....
Every day I try to improve myself and I am having a lot of fun doing it . I often am the fool but I am inching along slowly.
Are you better than you were 2 years ago
@@salem6963 are you better than you were 2 months ago?
@@azimmorganam yes, kinda. i am kinda there
@@azimmorganam tho i have a lot of ups and downs
6:45 He's describing gradient descent in machine learning.
Was thinking the same thing.
Not that weird, we're teaching artificial intelligence the only way we know how to learn.
Bruce Lee taught this too , the philosophy is built in to “jeet kune do”
What fascinates me is that Peterson is describing the process of me learning what he is saying. When I first started listening to Peterson I could barely understand the words he uses. Kind of like a child myself but now I’ve basically expanded my vocabulary through him and really enjoying absorbing all the information he gives
Get your ACT together!!
-- Jordan Peterson
what if it's not an act?
@@truthseeker1871 then get your SHIT together!
Your "ACT". Like an act in a play. Or a chapter in your story.
I've heard this saying before but this new level of meaning just struck me
Basically we put our step forward. Look around. Listen. Take another step. Breath. Sigh. Move forward. At some point take a rest. Sit. Lay around. Think eat. Enjoy. Get back up. Keep on moving forward. The path opens up to light and hope.
I once read, its better to something imperfectly, then nothing flawlessly
Jordan Peterson: Each sentence is a good quote for life.
Success is being able to not be miserable, yet being able to survive
A year from now, you will wish you would have started today.
Every time I listen to another one of Peterson's lectures, I end up feeling so thankful and in amazement at the effect on me in terms of my understanding and clarity.
0:47 (LOL) I love it whenever he's in that mode: "What else could possibly be the case (?)"
And 'like what are you going to do that's perfect anyways, surprise! '
Thank you Jordan because right now I am wondering in the desert and feel like things are very bad because I am trying to improve my self! You made me realize this is par for the course. I will keep going!
Why do fools and stupid people often run companies, governments etc ?
Brilliant piece from JP. Very important for now, when people feel cowed about standing up to so much that has morphed wrongly, with the MSM against so much, & against development.
How great you are Mr Peterson
We must do what we can with life to ensure that no moment in retrospect was seen as fleeting or wasted!
Coming back to watch this and it's still unbelievably applicable.
Please, Dr. Peterson, never stop speaking. I could listen forever.
This hits me hard, im exactly in this position of being completely lost in life and having some wild ideas such as moving abroad to begin a new chapter.
Has to be the best advice I’ve heard from Peterson
Reminds me of the saying that the "expert" is someone who has made all the mistakes.
and learnd from them ...otherwise...
Jordan: pursue everything that interests you
Me: *confused about how archery, blacksmithing, writing, economics, music could all be interlapped *
This is so good to hear after years of wrestling, and walking in new to learn martial arts and constantly getting my butt kicked. (Literally just got done with practice-everything hurts).
This is really good stuff. Thank you!
Working to do things that have already been done for me.
I only gotta speak, don't need to work my way into anything.
just gotta put what i got in the right place.
There is a very practical example of this in space travel which I find really interesting. Mars is about 55m Km from earth at its closest point and Mercury is about 77m km. When you travel towards mercury in a straight line you get faster and faster as you are moving towards the suns gravitational pull, instead of against it. The result is that you then overshoot Mercury and crash into the sun. Turns out it is much more difficult to fly towards the sun than away from it. You have to use gravity assists through planetary flybys which look exactly like circumbambulation! Mars missions are expected to last about 300 days. Getting to the orbit of mercury is so difficult that the Bepocolombo mission there is planned to take 7 years! It is much easier to go towards the “dark” or wrong paths, than towards the light. This video explains it better than I: czcams.com/video/SCPMhVhFNdY/video.html
Mind blowed
Lucas de Siqueira blown
It is rocket science....?
So what does that mean ?
that speech means gold to me
what a great idea! And so useful too!
I think if you we're able to chart the zig zag pattern accurately enough in each persons life it probably would look like a phi ratio waveform. Often i think that no matter the problem in any number of individuals lives the conscious energy to overcome these problems requires the same amount of struggle albeit the problems are vastly different.
I see it more like a convoluted path, which touches the string theory -- it appears one goes no where, until one sees the pieces of the puzzle, unbelievable things manifest itself out of nowhere, that how i came to see most of the metaphysical articles i write about.
I know this sounds like a feeble example. But today I have a barista trial. I was told if I’m fast enough then I’m hired. I know I’m not fast enough because I’ve had no cafe experience. But I need this job! So I’m going to give it my best damn shot and hopefully get this job, impress the boss, and master my skill as a barista. However, in this situation I really do have a will to stupidity because the chances of me embarrassing myself are high! But I have nothing to lose. Peterson’s words really reaffirmed my rightful idiocy in this action, so here it goes.
All the best. Hopefully he has some foresight, and sees your willingness to learn.
But not all managers think that way.
Ok update: I didn’t get that job and the trial went horribly. But it made me realise how much I wanted to work in hospitality instead of the boring sedentary administrative job I had. After being rejected following this trial for being inexperienced, I got frustrated and posted in a hospitality Facebook group asking for advice. Next thing, a cafe owner is contacting me for a trial and saying he’d train me. I go to the trial, give it my best shot, and he hires me on the spot. The day I wrote this original comment and followed Jordans advice and was willing to be the fool so I could be the master ultimately led me to this point of now having an incredible job at an amazing place that I love.
I knew it. Thank you very much.
I am grateful I have a passion, thank you J. P.
Peterson is a great example of people being naturally religious/spiritually-aware yet simultaneously hesitant of it. Some proclaimed atheists/agnostics are so Judeo-Christian in their moral conviction & worldview yet they don’t even know it.
I spent years digging holes for technicians to repair telephone lines, I was so interested in learning how to repair lines and working with the technology to learn where the problem was. The problem came along that I had no idea would come along. All of the lines were color coordinated! I was colorblind!!! All that work to be the best in just digging holes in Arizona and if you don't know what it's like digging holes in Arizona, I felt like an idiot 😢
I feel even more stupid that people don't even use home phones anymore! 🙄
Omg this talk is fantastic... Jordan is someting else.
Children “die into their language “. Man that says a lot about how we find out anything. It’s better to know what doesn’t work than what does.
I hear your words 🙏
Just coming out of a phase of anxiety-induced depression. Spent months not caring about ANYTHING and now just getting back on the rails to go accomplish some goals. This video basically sums up every thing and reassures me that this is normal.
@timwins31 Great comment, bro!
Wow...needed this right now.
I love how he talks with his hands;-) Brilliance animated.
Me too ...
@@Tweatie88 try turning the volume on mute- then watch his hands.(then, scroll to hide his head). I find him extremely intelligent and believe the use of his hands is a way of orchestrating such an articulate lecture. And, it is great fun to just watch his hand movements;-)
I loved this video when I watched it. I love the idea of circumambulation.
Logic I bet u do Panama Red
This should have WAY more views
Thanks for this video.
Being quiet and taking shit made me grow . Instead of arguing thinking I knew even if I did or thought I did
love this guy, inspired me to do so much.
didn't even give me time to be properly nihilistic and lost
Thank you Jordan, we're a product of our society.
What a brilliant man 💜
Just 15 seconds in and Jordan is already talking to me damn!!
nothing turns out to be better than pathological. god bless this smart creature :)
"It's not an indication that you've failed it's just an indication that it's really hard"
beautiful beautiful beautiful, just beautiful
Fear, resistance, lizardbrain, fight or flight, instant gratification,... When am I going to get over it?
Mystery two mystery belief to belief;made you leave yourself into a new revelation but you have to first start at the master. A WM
Listen to this everday Davie
Incredible truth
Fantastic 😊
“Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise.”
1 Corinthians 3:18
Almost all Ideas are Stupid!!! Brilliant
This is why I love punkrock.. Common theme in modern punk is constantly change between contrasts. Master slave etc.
I feel better about myself after listening to this.
“How I’ve been a Horse’s Ass” is the title of a journal that has us take a look at the times that we haven’t been up to par. It doesn’t ask us to beat ourselves up, but just something to keep ourselves and our egos in balance. This is the fourth journal I use by this author. His approach is nicely set up in the journal’s intro.
I was programmed to fail, and only told to try to sprinkle salt in the wounds. That's my truth
I have developed and worked on many projects. Some turned out exceedingly well, some could have been better, none were ever perfect. We just have limitations outside our own abilities beyond our control. Fortunately I took them on to continue experiencing my career and to develop new opportunities. After looking back my greatest reward was to having been offered these opportunities and to have so many challenging projects that allowed my personal development in my field. I was very blessed. I can not believe what my life would have been like if I had chosen not to take on the risk of these challenges.
Why do fools and stupid people often run companies, governments etc ?
@@chris1806 it is human nature to err, devine to to forgive.
“The voyage of the best ship is a zig zag line of a hundred tacks.”
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
I wish I had watched this video 6 years earlier.
But it s never too late :)
Where were you 6 years earlier?
this is 🔥🔥🔥🔥👏
In the Carlos Castenada books, Don Juan emphasized the ability to be a fool, not take yourself so seriously, and do it impeccably. Thanks Jordan, my brother.
1:40 - "The fool is the precursor to the savior"
Mind blowing
Things are getting way better than before.. Thank you sir..
Respect 🙏
How do you make these hand gestures..well what the hell do I know 😁😁😁
Talking about trying and failing over and over"...but it's a heck of a lot better that just rotting away at home." 5:03. Wow-
the 10:40 mark made me go "oh.my.god... how did he know?".... can someone point me to a video where he talks more about moving on from experiencing exactly that??
I love these videos of him and his majestic pose in the thumbnail. He's real name must be Jordan B. Joterson, so he can be Jojo.
His name is great actually, Jordan river and Peter = rock, which nourishes and grounds him. I must write him and get his attention on the fact that he needs very fine professional help with his biochemistry to heal, get a better diet- that mono-diet is not good in the long run- and start a stress-lessening life and get help for his depression and overspending of nerve/kidney energy. he is so into his work process and its expression that he gets oblivious of his body and health; I am afraid.
"They die into their language"