NVIDIA Got Rid of the Glue: Tear-Down of the RTX 4090, Power Design, & Adapter Cables

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  • čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
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    In this one, we're working with Malcolm from the Thermal Engineering team and Qi (PM) to talk about power design, thermal design, transients, cables, and more for the RTX 4090. This is the last of the 4090 FE videos for now, though we'll have more GPU reviews soon (including partner models) and some AM5 Ryzen 7000 content.
    Watch the other video with Malcolm on thermal design (and cutting the 4090 cooler in half) over here: • Cutting an NVIDIA RTX ...
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - No More Glue, Drills, and Heat Guns
    03:17 - Backside Comes Off
    04:26 - Why Different Sized Screws?
    05:20 - Thermal Engineering Lesson on the Fans
    08:05 - YOINK
    09:15 - Thermal Interface Engineering Choices
    10:40 - A Pain to Malcolm's Thermal Existence
    13:26 - Removing the Fans
    14:50 - Is There Any Glue?
    15:30 - The Worst Part
    17:50 - Self-Centering Discussion
    19:20 - Electrical Engineering Design & Discussion
    21:22 - Memory Locations & Power Density
    23:49 - Phase Design
    24:32 - The 12-Pin Connector
    28:05 - Addressing the Cable Durability
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    Host: Steve Burke
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    Guests: Malcolm Gutenburg (Thermal Engineer at NVIDIA), Qi Lin (Product Manager at NVIDIA)
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před rokem +591

    This is the last RTX 4090 video right now, but we have some partner model reviews and tear-downs coming up. We're also working on more Ryzen 7000 and AM5 content and very excited to try out some new test equipment!
    Watch the other video with Malcolm on thermal design (and cutting the 4090 cooler in half) over here: czcams.com/video/g4lHgSMBf80/video.html
    Watch our review of the RTX 4090 Founders Edition here: czcams.com/video/j9vC9NBL8zo/video.html
    And our deeper dive on the cooler and cable here: czcams.com/video/CmUb9sDS9zw/video.html

    • @donoteatmikezila
      @donoteatmikezila Před rokem +21

      >This is the last RTX 4090 video right now
      Thank you. I mean this is great and all and you're doing a good job, but I'm all out of fucks to give about these video cards that cost more than the entire rest of my computer.

    • @RetiredEE
      @RetiredEE Před rokem +8

      Thanks Steve!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +85

      @@donoteatmikezila We always do a lot of videos about new parts right when they come out. It's just been two years since a major launch cycle, so you may not have seen it before. Not every video is for everyone and we try to rotate through topics quickly.

    • @ERROR-hf3wx
      @ERROR-hf3wx Před rokem +3

      I am so excited for partner cards reviews, please spend a good amount of time on water-cooling variants.

    • @Aurora12488
      @Aurora12488 Před rokem +23

      ​@@GamersNexus On the flip side, I for one have been loving the recent 4090 content! Big CPU/GPU launches only come ever so often, and so it's been really fun following your coverage of these recent ones (Zen 4 & RTX 4000).

  • @valen961
    @valen961 Před rokem +1969

    Engineers should be allowed to talk more with the public...
    I don't understand most of what they say but I could listen for hours.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +878

      It really does seem like Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA are all experimenting with this idea. Hopefully they stick with it!

    • @polarfr_st
      @polarfr_st Před rokem +3

      @@GamersNexus Wdym? Also sus ooc. 😳

    • @samuelkdu
      @samuelkdu Před rokem +22

      as long as its not Raja Koduri

    • @brando3342
      @brando3342 Před rokem +124

      @@samuelkdu It’s much better when their job is not in public relations. The guys getting paid to sell the cards to people always sound fake, and scripted. Actual engineers just talk like regular people who really love their job.

    • @steveredstone1711
      @steveredstone1711 Před rokem +17

      Those engineers work for public companies. Public companies don't like unplanned talks or talks like this because stuff might "slip" from talkers' mouths like future plans. Obviously, there is also money side of it...

  • @MultiMojo
    @MultiMojo Před rokem +2461

    GN has some serious street cred - it's rare to see a multi-billion corp like Nvidia send over a Principal PM and a design engineer to talk about their product in such detail. We should be thankful to the GN crew for the hard work they've put in over the years to deep dive into these products. Hope other channels take note and follow suit, over parroting spec sheets.

    • @mikeymaiku
      @mikeymaiku Před rokem +38

      @@pistolfied lol nvidia also needs to go the extra mile after the situation involingthier prices and the rtx 30 series lineup in general

    • @pfefferle74
      @pfefferle74 Před rokem +81

      It's marketing. Having someone from their engineering team in the video allows them some control over the content.
      Same when they had the Intel guys over for their ARC cards.

    • @dejangrbec
      @dejangrbec Před rokem +59

      @@pfefferle74 Exactly, they are not sending people to Steve just to give him a favour. But anyway, you can tell that they are very passioned about their job.

    • @grzzltn
      @grzzltn Před rokem +14

      I've been following a few tech channels over the years, but I ended up with Games Nexus alone remaining (along with a few other retro-tech youtubers), great quality content, good work ethics, everything I wish to support

    • @bits2646
      @bits2646 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, and it's not common to see the product ripped apart in front of them :DD

  • @Speakeazi
    @Speakeazi Před rokem +523

    The LPL (Lock Picking Lawyer) reference from the Nvidia engineer was great. 17:44

    • @gelfie2208
      @gelfie2208 Před rokem +15

      Outstanding

    • @on99kfc
      @on99kfc Před rokem +31

      a little click out of one

    • @TheGerudan
      @TheGerudan Před rokem +92

      "I'm the Lock Picking Lawyer and what I have for you today is the RTX 4090 Founders Edition."

    • @nexusyang4832
      @nexusyang4832 Před rokem +13

      @@TheGerudan we don't need to give LPL video ideas. 🤣

    • @2ATac
      @2ATac Před rokem +6

      Bloody amazing! Caught that immediately!

  • @ZomgZomg007
    @ZomgZomg007 Před rokem +531

    Lol I love how excited and proud he was of the contact when the gpu was pulled out

    • @phz5705
      @phz5705 Před rokem +12

      As a mechanical engineer I completely get his reaction. After you spend weeks/months/years developing a process and it comes out the way you've worked so hard to achieve, it's hard not to get proud and excited!

    • @enva1n
      @enva1n Před rokem +3

      This guy is great

    • @dinosoarskill17
      @dinosoarskill17 Před rokem +2

      i don't do anything as crazy as this guy does, but designing something and seeing it go successfully into production like that is such a great feeling. it's like the fruit of your labors.

  • @brando3342
    @brando3342 Před rokem +1302

    How happy he was about the contact accuracy was super wholesome haha You can tell he loves his job. Good stuff 👌

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +430

      Super genuine reaction too since engineers probably don't get to do any QC off the line!

    • @jst_TV
      @jst_TV Před rokem +47

      @ 8:39 if anyone else is wondering

    • @pheelix-
      @pheelix- Před rokem +23

      Pay no attention to the QUAL SAMPLE stamped on the GPU, there is nothing to see here.
      Nivida: Triple check those contacts before heading over to GN.

    • @longnamedude3947
      @longnamedude3947 Před rokem +51

      @@pheelix- Qualifying Sample, It doesn't necessarily mean Nvidia went cherry picking GPU's for hours on end, that would cost time & money that someone could spend doing other things.
      I am not saying you are wrong, but, I am saying that it is unlikely Nvidia need to be that pedantic over it, especially as if something that gets this hot and draws this much power is mounted unevenly then you'll have massive thermal deltas across the die.

    • @yomofoindahouse
      @yomofoindahouse Před rokem +3

      You really don't understand that it was a marketing trick to form your opinion?

  • @TheQuiescentGamer
    @TheQuiescentGamer Před rokem +259

    This video made me smile because both Malcom and Qi were happy to discuss, demonstrate and elaborate on various aspects of the card whilst having fun doinig so. I love this stuff, thank you Steve and everybody at GN for providing amazing content!

  • @sigy4ever
    @sigy4ever Před rokem +31

    6:07 He was instructed to do this personally by Nvidia CEO as a message from them to Steve

    • @mrsnoo86
      @mrsnoo86 Před rokem +1

      😂😂

    • @mastaw
      @mastaw Před rokem +2

      Glad I'm not the only one who saw that lol

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd Před rokem +147

    I love how he was so diplomatic in basically saying "That decision is not my department lol" when questionable design decisions were brought up.

    • @nkl7345
      @nkl7345 Před rokem +48

      "wasn't me, chief"

    • @adamblomberg
      @adamblomberg Před rokem +19

      This just so much better communication than apple and the improvements on both communication and design is clearly intentional. I like that they're honest about them focusing on aesthetics and still manage to make it disassemble without any roadblocks like glue.

    • @kain0m
      @kain0m Před rokem +27

      That is just life as an engineer. We often wonder how the heck we ended up with certain constraints, but our job is to make our part to specification - even if we think we know a better solution. Bring it up to the relevant team, and let them decide if your idea is worth pursuing. Afterwards, talking smack is reserved for the coffee tables.

  • @SomeoneDK
    @SomeoneDK Před rokem +287

    Hey Steve, on your silver IFixit mini screwdriver, there's a hole by the top, to put the extension through it. That will give you all the torque you need by making into a T handle. The more you know... 😁

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +185

      Ha! Cool. Never noticed. Thank you!

    • @SomeoneDK
      @SomeoneDK Před rokem +31

      @@GamersNexusThose old screw driver kits are the best. If I lost mine, I think I would just close up my store 🤣

    • @the_retag
      @the_retag Před rokem +6

      @@SomeoneDK so not available anymore :( ?

    • @SomeoneDK
      @SomeoneDK Před rokem +6

      @@the_retag Unfortunately no. I got mine about 8 years ago.

    • @ShroudedWolf51
      @ShroudedWolf51 Před rokem +2

      @@SomeoneDK Yeah, not anymore. Got mine a few years ago and it doesn't have that option. Oh well.

  • @killercat268
    @killercat268 Před rokem +175

    It was super cool that NVIDIA is collabing with you in the technical discussion. Seems like they've got some great talent working for them. This video was a treat!

    • @danimayb
      @danimayb Před rokem +5

      @@pistolfied The bosses sent them there for marketing purposes lol. No doubt a "repair" strategy to calm the waters of the storm that's been raging in the public domain.. And try stop the rot of their dwindling share prices. That 4080 U-Turn was amazing! Never seen Nvidia react to public opinion like that before.

    • @adamblomberg
      @adamblomberg Před rokem +1

      I have to give Nvidia credit, this is so much better than before, and they're not smug like apple coming with BS excuses and saying it's our fault.

    • @93836
      @93836 Před rokem +3

      @@adamblomberg Still hung up on the iPhone 4 antenna, huh 😂

    • @andreasniedam9945
      @andreasniedam9945 Před rokem

      Don't be so naive. At the same time, this is a PR event for Nvidia. They're not totally moronic themselves. The company knows the basics of what they're doing. They for sure went through all the stuff that can be brought up in public beforehand - there are still things called company secrets - and obviously would not send a total asshole to take part in a PR event in front of a media outlet and customers. This engineer had some sort of training in that regard too.

    • @adamblomberg
      @adamblomberg Před rokem

      @@93836 the butterfly keyboard too

  • @philippvelimirovic2284
    @philippvelimirovic2284 Před rokem +17

    that Lock picking Lawyer reference at 17:45 😅

  • @FandangoJon
    @FandangoJon Před rokem +221

    A great reminder that a company can be really shitty, but the people that work there can be awesome. Love the insight... it's like director commentary for a disassemble. Thanks for doing what you do, GN.

    • @AhuizotlXiuh
      @AhuizotlXiuh Před rokem +2

      Sounds like a problem that could be solved by employee ownership. Instead of being accountable to out of touch execs and shareholders trying to cut corners to make more money the people who know and do the work should get a say in the decisions.

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 Před rokem +8

      @@AhuizotlXiuh Unfortunately that is not how a publicly traded company works, nor is it how investment works. Employee ownership has next to no investment benefit to a company, so there is very little driver for that. While it is the pipe dream of every armchair socialist in existence, its simply just not how raising capital works. Employer/employee relationships just don't work like they did 70 years ago. People don't work at a place long enough in many cases for the company to want to take that route.
      That being said, I am not against employee ownership, but you have to understand why these companies operate how they do, and that employees are often not considered stakeholders.

    • @maegnificant
      @maegnificant Před rokem +2

      @@AhuizotlXiuh sounds like communism to me

    • @ciekce
      @ciekce Před rokem +4

      @@maegnificant and

    • @crylune
      @crylune Před 5 měsíci

      @@goldenhate6649 So TL'DR capitalism is garbage and what you said is exactly why these companies get away with releasing bullshit year over year. Cool, thanks. Muh profits n margins.

  • @phoenix0153
    @phoenix0153 Před rokem +96

    Next video: "15 fun things you can do with glue! Its not just for video cards! Who knew!"

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před rokem +82

      #1 - glue your CPU cooler to your motherboard!

    • @backseatpolitician
      @backseatpolitician Před rokem +1

      @@GamersNexus What a great idea! Yolo bro! Am i rite?

    • @MafiaboysWorld
      @MafiaboysWorld Před rokem +1

      @@GamersNexus Already done!
      Seperate issue...how do you remove CPU coolers from a motherboard after using Gorilla Grip? Asking for a friend.

    • @guyincognito566
      @guyincognito566 Před rokem +4

      @@GamersNexus #2 Glue a 7 over an 8.

    • @flyingpj
      @flyingpj Před rokem

      @@GamersNexus can we get a video on this?

  • @DurzoBlunts
    @DurzoBlunts Před rokem +4

    His emotions when the PCB was pulled from the vapor chamber hahaha. He went through fear disbelief and then uncontained joy from seeing his product work as engineered. So cool
    Thanks GN

  • @Quizack
    @Quizack Před rokem +18

    That smile on Qi’s face when Steve talked about overclocking lol. Like an evil genius ready to show off his shrink ray. 😂

  • @BrazenBob
    @BrazenBob Před rokem +164

    My favourite part of GPU releases... Steve ripping them apart

    • @JosiahBradley
      @JosiahBradley Před rokem +7

      And he doesn't just rip them apart physically.

  • @angellike2234
    @angellike2234 Před rokem +49

    I have been an Engineer for 40 years in and about the computer industry and enjoyed this whole video.

    • @EkiToji
      @EkiToji Před rokem +3

      Yeah it was great hearing him talk about transmission line stuff when talking about the VRAM. I haven't done one in over a decade but made me think of bounce diagrams and lots of stuff I don't use but is good to know.

  • @Ericxx-yx4rk
    @Ericxx-yx4rk Před rokem +100

    It's like a company, for the first time in history, sent an actual tech expert. This is a much better way of pulling in the enthusiast crowd. Good job GN and Nvidia.
    EDIT: Watching more of the video, this should be the way vendors handle hardware deep dives going forward, no exceptions.

    • @GamesFromSpace
      @GamesFromSpace Před rokem +7

      As somebody a company like that might send, no thank you.

    • @iamnizorro9781
      @iamnizorro9781 Před rokem

      @@GamesFromSpace hahhaa, agreed!

    • @TheOmegaRiddler
      @TheOmegaRiddler Před rokem +6

      This is probably in response to Intel doing this a couple months ago.

    • @arsenal4444
      @arsenal4444 Před rokem +5

      @@GamesFromSpace I hope these representatives are handsomely compensated for how much they're doing for Nvidia's public image with these super detailed breakdowns

    • @GamesFromSpace
      @GamesFromSpace Před rokem +1

      @@arsenal4444 Likely not. They would be salaried, and this would just be "other duties".

  • @S.Madman
    @S.Madman Před rokem +36

    This feels like an old 80's computer equipment "how it's made" video. Where they would detail manufacturing design, challenges, and eventual assembly of computer components. It's a lot of fun, and educational to watch.

    • @MrDamonLeBeouf
      @MrDamonLeBeouf Před rokem +2

      much better content than 98% of all of streaming media.

    • @carnsoaks1
      @carnsoaks1 Před rokem +3

      Yes!the good old magazines, and cd-rom attachments with video essays for you to download at home.

  • @Cptkiller2010
    @Cptkiller2010 Před rokem +5

    You can really tell just how passionate the thermal engineer is at 8:45. Gotta feel good to see something you've worked on perform well, and in front of an audience too!

  • @93836
    @93836 Před rokem +21

    I really like this Malcolm kid. He’s funny, personable, and smart. I hope Nvidia keeps him for a long time and this becomes a recurring thing to see him making the rounds on CZcams channels.
    This is one of the most entertaining tear-down videos GN has made in recent memory.

  • @Ganiscol
    @Ganiscol Před rokem +15

    These two gentleman have great screen presence and Steve playing ball with them by asking the good questions makes this one heck of an informative and entertaining video! Three 👍 from me.

  • @Pratalax
    @Pratalax Před rokem +5

    Malcom's enthusiasm really was a treat! Couldn't help but smile.

  • @The_SonicPELICAN
    @The_SonicPELICAN Před rokem +377

    Now this is an interesting turn of events. Nvidia turning up for a tear down with engineering personnel.

    • @AnCoSt1
      @AnCoSt1 Před rokem +33

      guess they're proud of this one

    • @xcbrr50
      @xcbrr50 Před rokem +7

      I mean they dont want intel stealing the show

    • @jakemichael6742
      @jakemichael6742 Před rokem +4

      AMD coming in hot lol

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter Před rokem

      meanwhile their board partners(slaves) are suffering in the backyard

    • @meknowu1
      @meknowu1 Před rokem +6

      @@Splarkszter I mean bit disingenuous to call them slaves but yeh what they did to their AIBs is not good and they should compensate them at least in part for the change to the 4080 12gb.

  • @sadieperry
    @sadieperry Před rokem +48

    Hey Gamer Nexus! Okay, so my husband absolutely loves your channel and understands a great deal about technology. However I, on the other hand, cannot say the same for myself at all. I can tell you about music, art and literature... yet not one useful thing about computers because I'm an idiot. Anyway, I mean this with absolutely no offense and ALL love: I appreciate nothing more than falling asleep to you explaining all these complicated devices while he watches your videos with complete and utter focus and understanding. Thank you kindly for curing my insomnia. The sound/cadence of your voice is like a soothing bedtime story for me.

    • @flyingpj
      @flyingpj Před rokem +4

      lovely anecdote

    • @smilingbandit6900
      @smilingbandit6900 Před rokem +18

      Steve putting women to sleep world wide^^ next level up

    • @Edino_Chattino
      @Edino_Chattino Před rokem +8

      Steve's ASMR channel

    • @infornogr4phy
      @infornogr4phy Před rokem +16

      Don't call yourself an idiot for not understanding something. It just means you lack knowledge on a particular subject. Acknowledging lack of knowledge isn't what an idiot does.

    • @bleack8701
      @bleack8701 Před rokem +3

      Even if you understand it his candence and tone still manages to put me to sleep if I'm tired. And I mean this in the nicest way possible

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 Před rokem +27

    As an engineer, love the internal engineering take.
    His excitement on the TIM contact pitch is so relatable. Nothing like the feeling when your work is perfect lol.
    This is the card I want, the 4080 is so cut down and I feel like perf delta makes the 4090 worth it. Power draw is absurd though

    • @stevenjohnson1692
      @stevenjohnson1692 Před rokem +1

      By what we know so far the 4090 is looking like the best bang for your buck which traditionally is lower end cards because of the diminishing returns of higher end hardware. Just like how they are renaming the 3080 12gb to a lower card, the 4080 spec wise seems more like a 4070. Hopefully there will be super or Ti variations that will close that gap with having lower prices. Hopefully AMD really competes this gen to maybe fuel my previous hopes.

    • @endless2239
      @endless2239 Před rokem +1

      isn't this card like the new AMD CPUs anyway? where you can get like 95% of performance for 75% powerdraw, they are basically factory overclocked so just undervolthem a little bit.

    • @kingplunger6033
      @kingplunger6033 Před rokem +3

      The 4090 is decent, still ovepriced, and the 80s are so atrocious, even according to nvidias own charts, that the 4090 suddenly looks like its good value. Its insane, thats what it is

    • @jolness1
      @jolness1 Před rokem

      @@endless2239 yes. I think how hard they pushed the card out of its efficiency zone speaks to their concerns about AMD. I will likely end up doing that, mainly just because of the extra heat that is generated. Power is cheap here and 60% of the states power comes from Hydro, wind or solar so I don’t feel as bad using a bunch of electricity and I don’t game that much, most of myDesktop usage is on my MacBook that work issued me for programming. But I just don’t wanna deal with having a space heater in my office

    • @jolness1
      @jolness1 Před rokem

      @@kingplunger6033 Given the performance versus the cost, it’s a better value than the 3090 Ti was but yes, not a good value. The 4080 is so nerfed that it’s a worse value. I was planning to buy a 3080 founders edition because I love the look of the card to replace my 1080 TI but I was not able to even get the chance to buy one at retail Until about two months ago. I decided to wait. I had a 4090 in my cart at Best Buy but decided to not buy it because I hadn’t seen the benchmarks for the 4080. My preference would be a smaller card the draws less power but It is so cut down from the 4090 that I would feel like I was getting screwed even more than I normally do. I’m interested to see what AMD does but there is no way they will get close on Ray tracing performance. Unless they are able to pull off a 4x increase over the 6000 series. If they have a good enough ray tracing performance and Excellent rasterization performance like last generation, I may consider it but I’ve had some bad experiences with AMD software and drivers in the past so that would be my big hesitation. Plus the FE cards are absolutely beautiful imo. I don’t even have a windowed side panel on my Sliger Cerberus X but might get one just to see the card lol

  • @Owl90
    @Owl90 Před rokem +101

    Malcolm is really funny and entertaining. You guys should definitely do more videos together, even if not Nvidia related.

    • @hustleacc8075
      @hustleacc8075 Před rokem +11

      Yeah please let‘s have an Nvidia engineer talk about RDNA3

    • @Edino_Chattino
      @Edino_Chattino Před rokem +19

      @@hustleacc8075 As funny as it would be, I'm pretty sure an engineer would sing praises to a competitor's solution to a problem he may have faced.

  • @upforellie
    @upforellie Před rokem +59

    I could listen to engineers talk about their problem-solving for hours- this is the exact nerdy shit I subscribe to GN for

  • @mattpierce5009
    @mattpierce5009 Před rokem +80

    Love videos like this - not only for the nerdy content, but because it reminds us that there really are humans working at these huge companies trying to do a good job. +1 to Malcolm and GN

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Před rokem +1

      Evil humans, I mean it's still Nvidia XD

    • @katech6020
      @katech6020 Před rokem

      @@zwenkwiel816 the evil persons are PR, marketing, shareholders and management.

    • @cameron5249
      @cameron5249 Před rokem

      It's marketing

    • @mattpierce5009
      @mattpierce5009 Před rokem +3

      ​@@cameron5249 Of course it is. As an adult who understands why marketing exists and doesn't just auto-trigger at the word, I see it as a good thing that marketing looks like this instead of something more vapid and pointless.

    • @andreasniedam9945
      @andreasniedam9945 Před rokem +1

      Don't be so naive. At the same time, this is a PR event for Nvidia. They're not totally moronic themselves. The company knows the basics of what they're doing. They for sure went through all the stuff that can be brought up in public beforehand - there are still things called company secrets - and obviously would not send a total asshole to take part in a PR event in front of a media outlet and customers. This engineer had some sort of training in that regard too.

  • @bob-hf1kw
    @bob-hf1kw Před rokem +3

    17:45 that lockpicking lawyer reference 🤣

  • @mathiascarlsson7674
    @mathiascarlsson7674 Před rokem +2

    Loved the video and the added bonus of having the engineers there to talk about the construction, great stuff.
    It's when seeing this and listening to them that you start to get an idea of the resources and work and consequently money that goes into creating and designing a finished card, mindblowing.

  • @TheBatracho
    @TheBatracho Před rokem +4

    Commenting again after doing so on last waterjet video. This type of content is awesome, the fact that you can get these people on your channel is incredible. It’s also great to see how much the engineers actually love what they do. 10/10.

  • @RaydeusMX
    @RaydeusMX Před rokem +48

    This is extremely interesting. Personally I'll probably skip the 4000 series, but I really appreciate the engineering and design that goes into a top of the line card like this.

    • @Nickxis
      @Nickxis Před rokem +2

      you would skip the biggest leap in between generations? why?
      I'm guessing you already have GPU powerful enough for your needs right now?

    • @tiestofalljays
      @tiestofalljays Před rokem +7

      @@Nickxis It’s a big performance improvement, yes. It is impressive, yes. However, my 30-series GPU acquisition emptied my PC-building fun money wallet for this gen. Plus, the RTX 30-series is still no slouch, especially at 3440x1440.
      I am hoping I can hold off until the RTX 6090. Nvidia please don’t get rid of the naming scheme!!! I’m serious lol. By that time, I’m expecting to want to upgrade both my GPU and my monitor.

    • @metroided34
      @metroided34 Před rokem +3

      @@Nickxis List 5 games that need a 4000 series to be playable.

    • @soapghostroach
      @soapghostroach Před rokem +1

      @@metroided34 Maybe all 5 at once?

    • @metroided34
      @metroided34 Před rokem

      @@b.t4604 Even with a 4090 i doubt it can run that shitheap at 8k lmao.
      also 1

  • @PGJVids
    @PGJVids Před rokem +17

    It is always great to hear the engineers share their design thoughts.

  • @davidmoffitt981
    @davidmoffitt981 Před rokem +1

    It's really great seeing this from the engineer's perspective too - some of the "why" not just "how" behind those decisions. It was a pleasure watching you host Qi and Malcolm - I hope we get to see more of this "partnership" level experience in the future from them and other vendors!

  • @quonslecn7755
    @quonslecn7755 Před rokem +8

    Nice no GDDR on the back of the card.
    Edit: Hopefully Malcom and Qi are back in some future videos. Their insight and knowledge is awesome.

  • @Mathingon
    @Mathingon Před rokem +16

    I’m really loving these in-depth discussions around design and technology decisions. Very pleasantly surprised that Nvidia is being so open on this, it makes for great content and shows how awesomely designed the 4090 is.

  • @euheniosenior8294
    @euheniosenior8294 Před rokem +2

    This blurred middle finger @6:07 - so much attention to detail and unique humor on this channel made me shed a little mental tear :D

  • @KingLarbear
    @KingLarbear Před rokem +12

    The subtle but nervous laughter at 1:26 was amazing when talking about Steve potentially having impact of the gpu design lol

  • @_____mh
    @_____mh Před rokem +4

    Not even my dear great aunt could give a subtle bird flip as smooth as this thermal engineer. Bravo 👏

  • @eso210
    @eso210 Před rokem +10

    Steve is like the teacher that grades your paper in front of you

  • @BudgetGamer92
    @BudgetGamer92 Před 13 dny

    Seeing how proud Malcolm was of the cards design was awesome. Its good to know someone that's so passionate about his job working on our cards

  • @alexlefevre3555
    @alexlefevre3555 Před rokem +2

    From someone who has spent time in EDM software designing caveman boards by comparison for business and personal projects, the PCB layout and component density is absolutely incredible on this board.
    A teardown video with guys who designed the product. Amazing.

  • @GodSEndOMG
    @GodSEndOMG Před rokem +18

    Overkill cooling is a good thing. Very impressed with the 4090 temperatures.

  • @hudibaba
    @hudibaba Před rokem +6

    17:46 a wild LockPickingLawyer easter egg appears

  • @sumikomei
    @sumikomei Před rokem +1

    Videos like this make me so freaking giddy. I LOVE deep dive stuff like this so much, and it's so awesome to see how much these two engineers love what they do, and just their sheer wealth of knowledge.

  • @ChocoboGuy
    @ChocoboGuy Před rokem +2

    Always appreciate hearing from the engineers. They're always passionate talking about their work because they've put their heart and soul into these designs. Say what you want about corporate and marketing, but the engineering team always wants to deliver the best quality products that they can because they care about the work they did, not just about making money for the company.

  • @agentb4074
    @agentb4074 Před rokem +8

    I loved every second of this! It's awesome that you were able to host some of the engineers who actually worked on the card, and can comment on it in real time. And Steve asks good questions. There was a lot of interesting information.
    Based on Malcolm's comments, it sounds like he's a GN viewer. :-D It's really cool to see how happy and excited he and Qi are to talk about their work. I hope we see these guys again someday, and I hope GN gets more engineers to appear on the channel!

  • @ruikazane5123
    @ruikazane5123 Před rokem +5

    6:07 I see what you did there
    Good to know that it would not need a lot of disassembly for cleaning out the fans. The extra copper layers are no joke too, both in price and the benefits. Now we would be expecting something on the partner versions on how they coped with it

  • @rollin340
    @rollin340 Před rokem +1

    Malcom definitely watches the LockPickingLawyer. I love listening to the engineers talk so passionately about what they've built. And from the looks of things, they're damned good at their jobs.

  • @SurriSama
    @SurriSama Před rokem +1

    This was an amazing video, this guys enthusiasm was genuinely infectious and made for a treat to watch! Thanks for putting this together (or taking it apart, I guess).

  • @m-copyright
    @m-copyright Před rokem +6

    Well 28:36 the part with the new 12V connector aged really well. 🤣
    What a stupid connector that PCI-SIG the guys who made it know about its problems and still shipped it.
    Buy a 4090 right now, it includes free of charge a burnt house. It will even melt your bones. Guaranteed.

  • @_Ferrigno
    @_Ferrigno Před rokem +6

    laughed so hard when you blurred the guy giving the bird while pointing at the x frame 🤣

  • @AlwinMonteiro
    @AlwinMonteiro Před rokem

    Great content! Really cool to hear the people behind the project!

  • @andrewebid1491
    @andrewebid1491 Před rokem +1

    Bro but the quality of the thermaltake ad though. So good, so amazed to see the growth of GN

  • @ClaudioBOsorio
    @ClaudioBOsorio Před rokem +25

    I really like how excited they are. It's like playing with a new toy.

  • @seiferleonheart
    @seiferleonheart Před rokem +21

    Awesome video! I have my issues with Nvidia as a company, but the people that work there are pretty damn good! Geeking out about TIM and referencing Lockpicking Lawyer? Wow Nvidia, keep this up and I might became a fanboy.

  • @Elkatook666
    @Elkatook666 Před rokem

    love all these guests who know so much about the subject , the joy of the themal engineer seeing the reveal of the TIM on the teardown was great !
    great video as always, thanks Steve

  • @NeutronicalGaming
    @NeutronicalGaming Před rokem

    good stuff, glad to see the quality of the content always improving, you guys really push the envelope.

  • @GamerErman2001
    @GamerErman2001 Před rokem +5

    I love that this video literally has people from Nvidia to help Steve disassemble the GPU and answer questions!

  • @ZWortek
    @ZWortek Před rokem +4

    Lock picking lawyer reference at 17:46 I believe hahaha

  • @sgas
    @sgas Před rokem

    awesome to see the actual engineers with you like this

  • @tiestofalljays
    @tiestofalljays Před rokem +1

    His reaction to the TIM contact is exactly how I feel when a design comes together. Loved that so muchhhhh haha.

  • @dangerfar
    @dangerfar Před rokem +14

    Qi is so knowledgeable.

  • @SirAndras
    @SirAndras Před rokem +8

    Just to add to the masses; these videos are top of the line. I hope nVidia, Intel, AMD and whoever else joins in the future keep doing these cause nobody cares about marketing shit. This is much better than everything else. Even me, with a 3090 happy and no plans on upgrading, got a bit tingly thinking the new 4090 was looking amazing in terms of thermal and electrical design. I'm just gonna hold on until the 5090 cause if these tw cards are to go by, it'll get even cooler still. Very nicely done by nVidia here. Keep up the good work!

  • @Quickloaded
    @Quickloaded Před rokem +1

    I laughed at the blurred section at 6:06. Good job editor :D

  • @DarkPuIse
    @DarkPuIse Před rokem

    I love how Malcolm threw in a little nod to LockPickingLawyer at 17:39.

  • @Symba_Lysm
    @Symba_Lysm Před rokem +5

    THIS needs to be an annual or two yearly thing that happens with every generation! NVIDIA;s engineers needs some praise in what they do in the backend. And what better way then showing off how passionate they are then showing generational improvements of thermal, power and disassembly's of there cards. It's also a welcome distraction from the marketing and pure benchmarks for a change!

  • @curtismariani6303
    @curtismariani6303 Před rokem +10

    I do think the FE cards is among the nicest looking cards on the market.

    • @swizzler8053
      @swizzler8053 Před rokem +1

      It is.

    • @EldenLord.
      @EldenLord. Před rokem

      Yeah looks too basic and wouldnt fit in my case in terms of color.

  • @AnCapGamer
    @AnCapGamer Před rokem

    17:46 LOL when he said "click out of 1, false set on 2.." Reminds me of the Lock Picking Lawyer! Varying key pin positions at/near the sheer line of the lock.

  • @Raven187FPV
    @Raven187FPV Před rokem

    Lmao, the editing on that finger was on point. Well-done sir or madam editor.

  • @blgDemon
    @blgDemon Před rokem +4

    It was a pure joy to watch this video. Malcolm is a cool guy, I want to see him more on GN :D

  • @sammifyy3999
    @sammifyy3999 Před rokem +3

    When u took it apart in the start the crunch made me flinch so hard

  • @paco1669
    @paco1669 Před rokem +2

    Love these guys! They are so into their craft. These videos have been very informative.

  • @CallMeEspi
    @CallMeEspi Před rokem +2

    26:51 "You've played with our power slider before, right?" is a top memeable moment.

  • @breadworkshop
    @breadworkshop Před rokem +3

    made me wish i could have an nvidia rep present every time i have to disassemble a card, just to guide me through it, and to handle the tighter screws lol. great video!

  • @SATTY94
    @SATTY94 Před rokem +16

    Its good to see nvidia doing community stuff we need more of this its awesome

  • @DanielElia2036
    @DanielElia2036 Před rokem +1

    Thanks to your channel (and few others)I can understand 90% of your videos without subtitles 😅
    Big hugs from Italy, your videos are full of passion 4 tech💪💪💪

  • @lillian75t
    @lillian75t Před rokem

    rips the board off with a "wooh Jeez" making my day
    thanks, Steve and co. !!!

  • @WarPigstheHun
    @WarPigstheHun Před rokem +8

    They went from gluing everything down to labelling parts. I love the design, I'm trying to do something very similar with my 3080, but I think I might just wait more years to get a 5080 when it comes out.

  • @connmacart
    @connmacart Před rokem +4

    Drinking game: Take a shot every time the Nvidia guy says essentially.

    • @redrock425
      @redrock425 Před rokem +1

      Glad it's not just me that noticed. I like his enthusiasm.

  • @terribleatgames-rippedoff

    17:44 Ooooh, a LockpickingLawyer reference.

  • @new1080
    @new1080 Před rokem

    Great contact on that gpu.
    The thumbnail for this video is excellent!

  • @jetrpg22
    @jetrpg22 Před rokem +3

    Honestly this is amazing, you can say w/e you want about nvidia and its practices but clearly there are people in the loop that care enough to really make great improvements.

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage Před rokem +21

    Awesome video. Any time a company engineer with a bit of social skills is involved, it's gonna be a good time. Thanks for bringing this unique content!

  • @tateastill5841
    @tateastill5841 Před rokem

    we need more of this guy. His enthusiasm for his job and the excitment he shows are amazing. Great video

  • @KrumpetKruncher
    @KrumpetKruncher Před rokem

    An old boss of mine said that "every organization moves at the speed of trust." I know lots of people still take issue with many of these companies but the more we talk and at least hear out their side of the story (so long as it's an honest take, still worth verifying like GN does) then the easier it will be to understand when there are issues, find a resolution (believe me, they don't make money by leaving things unresolved), and have a better ecosystem overall (between the companies AND the consumers). Great work Steve and crew!!! These colabs with the engineers have been by far my favorite computer hardware pieces in quite a while! Keep it up! (oh, and if NVidia or someone else is lying or hiding something or trying to distract from something else, don't worry, it always comes out in the end! ;) )

  • @rdogg9900
    @rdogg9900 Před rokem +4

    seems like Malcolm watches The Lockpicking Lawyer

  • @Mervinion
    @Mervinion Před rokem +13

    I love this trend. Sending more technical people by companies to make so detailed videos. I think we should thank Intel for sending Tom Peterson on tour with Arc. Best kind of videos! Keep it up 👍 Fun reference to LPL there 😂

  • @grizzleebair
    @grizzleebair Před rokem

    You were already my fave Tech YTer because you Mountain Bike! But your Tech content and quality, man! I am a Mechanical Engineering Technologist in another field, so you ask all of the questions I want to know myself. I always want to know the more technical details and you ask! And ones I didn't even think of, you ask!
    Question, (no wrong answer, both make sense): Do you ask the questions to help you do your job? Or you just have that same curiosity us techs naturally have? Or other?
    "Question". Love that! That was me when I was your age. I love it because I know something good is coming. He cracked me up when he said, "we could add some", just to trigger you. Hahaha!

  • @hieracium3317
    @hieracium3317 Před rokem

    It's great that they managed to get the real technical people there to talk about it. That's some good informative content.

  • @todd1748
    @todd1748 Před rokem +3

    Exactly why I watch Gamers Nexus. Steve, even with his huge knowledge and experience you can see him really absorbing the knowledge from the engineers and instead of just thinking what he will say next, is really listening. Great content as always Steve... even though I have hardly any idea what they are talking about its great to see their enthusiasm explaining their work.

  • @tr1ck5h07
    @tr1ck5h07 Před rokem +3

    GN once again setting the standard for these types of videos

  • @Y0G0FU
    @Y0G0FU Před rokem

    the Editing was as entertaining as the topic :D well done everyone!

  • @GregorysBrain
    @GregorysBrain Před rokem

    I love the fact that you blurred out Malcolm's finger when he was giving us the bird!

  • @Nicholas_Steel
    @Nicholas_Steel Před rokem +46

    Pandemic caused a glue shortage, so Nvidia had to find more screws.

    • @loreaver3882
      @loreaver3882 Před rokem +1

      We got a shipment of horses yesterday so we should have glue in no time 👍

    • @Simplypresea
      @Simplypresea Před rokem

      Meanwhile I had commercial projects where roofing screws were in short supply and some people were hoarding them like gold.

    • @Tugela60
      @Tugela60 Před rokem

      Does that explain why the card is screwed?

  • @aznwierdone
    @aznwierdone Před rokem +9

    thanks for censoring 6:08. i'd otherwise feel it was as if nvidia was giving the bird to their board partners or something. . .
    legit though, glad to see some engineering representation in media from the manufacturers. .

    • @Hirokuro_Asura
      @Hirokuro_Asura Před rokem +1

      Oh, so there is this one person who would think this. I guess it wasn't done for nothing then.. sad messed up world.

    • @Murderhoboh
      @Murderhoboh Před rokem

      ​@@Hirokuro_Asura Jenson has be quoted hating on aibs. so, seems legit

    • @Hirokuro_Asura
      @Hirokuro_Asura Před rokem

      @@Murderhoboh I honestly have no idea what you've said there man. Care to clarify?

    • @TheAnzamin
      @TheAnzamin Před rokem

      @@Hirokuro_Asura it wasn't done for nothing. it was done for the lolz

    • @Hirokuro_Asura
      @Hirokuro_Asura Před rokem

      @@TheAnzamin Yeah, today it's "lolz" tomorrow your freedom of speech is censored 24/7. 😏

  • @pandaexpresso
    @pandaexpresso Před rokem

    Malcolm looked so happy, almost surprised, that the TIM was so evenly spread out. Loved that part.

  • @XTreMe2k6
    @XTreMe2k6 Před rokem

    17:44 i love the LockPickingLawyer reference right there :D