Carole Lombard Airplane Crash Location with on site visit, January 16, 1942.
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- This video gives a brief explanation of the Carol Lombard plane crash that killed her and 21 others, with an onsite visit of the crash site.
Copy and paste the coordinates in Google Earth to visit the locations.
Point of Impact:
35.9510240, -115.4912924
Union Station Los Angeles:
34.0556340, -118.2363760
Indianapolis, Indiana Train Station:
39.7624566, -86.1602383
Indianapolis, Indiana Airport:
39.7170207, -86.2976916
St. Louis International Airport:
38.7475750, -90.3737455
Albuquerque International Airport:
35.0394211, -106.6085003
Boulder City Airport:
35.9487410, -114.8557577
Nellie Air Force Base:
36.2354122, -115.0342369
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Clark Gable had to be restrained from going to the crash site, he was so desperate to find her. Someone said to him, "Carole wouldn't want you to see her like this" and that's what stopped him from going up there. He had given her a pair of ruby clips as a gift and a piece of one was found in the wreckage. He wore it in a locket for the rest of his life.
Yeh the other one was found by a guy on CZcams pretty disgusting
@@andrea050405I just saw another video made by the guy who has that clip & with it was also her mangled wedding ring & many other pieces of her personal jewelry, which included ruby & sapphire rings, a diamond bracelet, jeweled pins & in addition, had pictures of her wearing many of those pieces! These were all very expensive items, but according to him, he found them all at the Crash Site - 40-50 years later! I find that Very hard to believe, but that's the story he was handing to the people he was showing it off to... If by Any chance that was true, I don't believe it was right he should have them!
@@lilgrlQ1He’s an FAA guy that’s why!! We’re Aviation industry and enthusiasts
She died a hero raising money for the war effort. It’s said Gable was never the same thereafter. He enlisted in the Army Air Force and those who served with him said he acted like a man who wanted to die, seeking dangerous missions to which he wasn’t supposed to participate in.
@@VICTORIAPAVLOVA77 that does not justify keeping expensive personal possessions
Wow. It blows me away that 80 years later all those parts are still out there.
It's a very difficult site to access as it's only for experienced hikers.
80 years Is nothing for those metal parts, especially for a landing gear an the engine block, nobody would bother to take them for scrap in such a remote place
SAME!
The same is true of any plane crash involving significant destruction and any that are beyond yards and easy transport. All the crashes I've seen, thousands of little bits are scattered around. Aircraft aluminum is 'corrosion proof', which means it corrodes very slowly.
I would have taken some of that home with me.
My mother was a TWA Hostess - the title used for flight attendants back then - when this crash happened. She lived in Topanga Cayon near the beach and flew out of Burbank. Flying was very expensive and flights usually had movie stars and business VIPs aboard. A requirement to be a Hostess, in addition to looks, height, and weight, was an R.N. degree. She once was grounded for a bit after getting a tan at the beach - someone had complained that she was "too dark." She had lots of interesting stories.
Sounds like TWA considered a Hostess to be a important representation of the company and service to the passengers. Maybe she looked too good with a tan for one of the female passengers : ]
One of my Favorite old school standards was from NWA, the CEO removed the Doors on the bathroom stalls to keep employees from wasting time on the clock!
TWA was known for wanting its hostess to be Nordic white. They didn’t want to be known as a company that “passes.”
Naturally,typical of Hollywood hypocrites
@@jerrymarbury9365 Hollwood doesnt enter in to it. She wasnt told who complained, it could have been anyone from CA, Kansas City, StLouis, New York, anywhere. Keep your politics to yourself, no one cares what you think.
Wonderful life your mother had! Please share additional stories you might have, the reason why I’m interested I am from Fort Wayne Indiana, which was the hometown of Carole Lombard. Her family’s house is still well-kept there and Fort Wayne takes a lot of pride in knowing that Carol Lombard was a home town girl. Also, if you’re interested and Carol Lombard history, I could share a few stories with you let me know.
never stop making these videos. its absolutely amazing and love how you take us on location so its more relatable and real
Thank you 🙏 and I’m glad you like them! Thank you for your support!!!
Totally agree. It’s been a while since the last incredible journey you took us on in Death Valley and I was worried that it had come to an end. So happy. Thank you Forrest.
I will journey as long as I’m physically able to.
The fact that he found all that wreckage….unbelievable. I hope someone can enlighten us as to what some of those parts were.
Offtopic but I have to say, as someone who used to be in EMS and a Sox fan, that profile picture fucking rules.
I think it's a testament to how beloved Carole Lombard is that the people who dare to make this VERY treacherous trek to her final resting place don't steal remnants or pieces of the wreckage out of respect. Such a sad part of history, and a tragic loss of a uniquely high-spirited human being.
Not meaning to be disrespectful, but TWA should have paid to have all that debris policed up. It's not a grave like sunken ships sometimes are.
I think the remnants of the airplane or light gray markers, and do indicate a level of respect for her and I’m very happy that people haven’t taken it, although I don’t have too much optimism for the future
Knowing human nature, I'll bet several people *did* pilfer from the crash site.
Most people just didn't feel like researching the exact spot and then making the climb up that hill in the middle of nowhere.
Most of the plane is missing
Just watched a video of a man who was FAA who went around the wreck site and had picked up jewelry and other things. I thought that was mercenary & disgusting.
Good to hear from you again Mr. Haggerty, I’d lie if I say I didn’t miss your analyses and little historic breakdowns
It's amazing that there is still debris there from 80 years ago. I read in another star's autobiography that Clark Gable never got over her death. He remarried later on but he never fully got over it. He loved her so much.
They cleaned up the majority of the debris And even use metal detectors which were very very cumbersome at the time, but a lot of it was impacted deep into the ground like a bullet. And erosion has washed away a lot of it if you recall we were in the middle of an aluminum shortage at the time and as callous as it seems.The aluminum a lot of it was recycled. And because of gremlins/superstition it was done pretty hush-hush back then.I applied the person making this video as he is showing respect to the area by not taking any souvenirs. And if you are a superstitious person you would know that is also uncool and even if you're not superstitious well you might as well be on the safe side 🙂Furthermore I'm quite familiar with the area and personally I think they Might have accidentally been shot down. I had spoken to a number of old timers that were quite familiar with China Lake and the surrounding areas, Prior to China Lake having installed radar relay points it was known for flyers to take shortcuts and save quite a bit on fuel and pass within China Lakes borders. And apparently when they first installed these repeaters/radar relay points it had blanketed a lot of the Las Vegas area and cost quite a bit of panic. It took weeks before they were able to calibrate the radar blanket and get it functioning properly from what I understand. But that was pre-Manhattan project and I know a number of planes succumbed/disappeared flying over the restricted area before word got out. Of course this is purely conjecture on my part but I feel it's a possibility, Plus there was money to be made when it came to fuel and taking shortcuts.
@@patrickmccleary1144 that's interesting. Thank you for your comment. There were a lot of things happening not only all over the United States but the world during WWII.
this guy found her wedding ring and other jewelry .. idk if this legit or not 😕 czcams.com/video/-j4WOPCarJs/video.html
I really appreciate that people who visit the site are respectful and leave the debris where it is versus taking things as macabre souvenirs.
I was thinking to myself, just yesterday, Forrest hasn't uploaded in a minute. The universe listens
Man I forgot this channel even existed!
Nice to see you're back, Forrest!
seeeeriously lol idk why i love this sort of thing but the way he uses google earth and shit and sometimes even visits the sites personally underrated channel but im glad there’s like minded people out there that love this kinda weird shit as much as i do it’s a pretty niche category here on youtube the way forrest does it but i feel like he’s the best at it 🤷♂️ lol
@ghhhp Right! It's good to see others who have an interest in this stuff... like I would type into Google maps/earth locations of murders/crimes/famous birthplaces, deaths,, etc... just purely out of interest
Honestly, same here
“the universe”
I've never clicked a notification so fast in my life. Cheers for all your hard work, Forrest!
I know, I love his videos!
When Clark Gable joined the Army Air Corps, it was suspected by higher ups in the Corps, that he was trying to commit suicide after Carole’s death. He volunteered to be a gunner in a bomber on dangerous missions, so this may have been right. I prefer to think that he was brave and patriotic. He was never the same after his wife’s death. Carole Lombard was one of the funniest and most beautiful women in the world. R.I.P. to both of them. 😢
He cheated on her regularly with several women, Lana Turner and Mamie Van Doren for example. Carole knew but let it go.
He was permitted to be a photographer on these missions; they didn't want him in combat as he was too old.
Having read your (excellent) post, this is in NO WAY meant as any disrespect towards Clark (Gable), but he only flew a couple of missions which were VERY shallow penetration (barely crossing the 'enemy held coast', if at all).
His "risk" WAS exceedingly low, unlike his equally famous Hollywood compatriot James Stewart who flew multiple missions which WERE "VERY" deep penetration raids (Examples = "HAMM" & "BRUNSWICK") - Targets where Gable would NEVER venture, nor, be "allowed" - Saddens me, as whilst I stumbled on THIS excellent video purely by chance, I did however watch a video which actually documented "dates, days, missions, breifings & targets" that involved the FEW ventures that Clark Gable made, or, was allowed to make - Alas, my six-decade old memory is increasingly like a sieve (!), but I am far more well-versed in the 8th A.F than most on here, an interest that started back in 1968 when I built my 1st ever Boeing B.17 (447th B.G) - IIRC without checking & shooting from the hip, Clark was assigned to one of our bases further inland (Polebrook or Molesworth from memory) & of course, back then, during his "8th Air Force" dalliance, those units (like the 303rd) were still using the much earlier block-number series Boeing B.17-'F's with a much shorter range - Later the 'F's were fitted with so-called "Tokyo Tanks" (here in the E.T.O) which enabled them to go much deeper into Germany, which hitherto, they'd been unable.
That's another "Logistical" reason as to "why" Clark Gable might spend no more than 15-mins over a Coastal Flak zone, unlike (the more unfortunate) James Stewart, who flew B.24's during 1944, when things were FAR, FAR hotter than the spell that Gable flew in, aprrox' one full year earlier....
(The ONLY daytime Luftwaffe fighter unit based in Northern France at that time, was JG.26)
James Stewart got BY FAR the much, much rougher end of the deal - Luckily fate dictated it "unscathed"
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(although he DID have to crashland the 445th's "Nine Yanks & a Jerk", seen ABOVE, at top of decal sheet)
@@catherinelw9365 Anyone going up in a World War II plane was in great danger, whether a gunner or a photographer, whether in a combat area or even in training.
Carole was a American Patriot. She lived her country. The crash site is hallowed ground.
Seriously! ‘Hallowed ground’. Get a grip.
I’m late but, thank you for your sacrifice.
Right, I would leave everything as is at that crash site .
Patriot? A real Patriot IMO would have given up her seat to those soldiers without a second thought or using her privilege.
@@rickkrough6167 Uh, she was traveling to entertain troops at a USO. This was not privilege. Get your damn facts straight.
Such a tragic story. May they all rest in eternal peace.
She was almost home. How heartbreaking.
Great job as always, Forrest! I’m 67 years old and have lived in Indiana many years of my life. I was totally unaware of Carol and her story. Thanks again, my friend! It’s great to get another new video from you!
Thank you for your comment! It really appreciate it. I’m happy to know something I did helped educate someone else!!!
Are you kidding? You educate more people in one day than most people do in a lifetime. You are awesome at what you do with a cast of many who follow you here!
Thanks again! We all love your work!
@pecanpize8199 Hey Hoosier! At 66 I've lived most of my years away from Indiana, but my father's roots were there and I went through grade school a bit south of Indianapolis. Still dear to me. Dad died way too young, but his childhood friend Ed Whitcomb (whom I bet you recall) passed only seven years ago. Small world sometimes.
@@valkasolidor6727 Hey! Thanks for reaching out here on the Forrest Hagarty Channel! Yeah…I have moved a few times to Illinois and Ohio, but there’s nothing like Indiana to me. Yes, I remember Governor Whitcomb. He was a good one! They don’t make ‘em like him anymore. Keep watching this channel and supporting Forrest!
@@pecanpize8199 Speaking of Whitcomb it wouldn't surprise me if Forrest knows about his "Escape From Corregidor" 😄 And for what it's worth I was born in Ohio. See you around sir!
How does Forrest not have more subscribers? He's a treasure.
i'm an old guy - just turned 70. carole left this world 11 years before i was born. but i'm a huge classic movie buff and love her old flicks - my favorite being 'my man godfrey ' with willliam powell. seen it at least 20 times and still tear up every time i see her in it. brilliant comedienne - she just had no luck that day. heartbreaking.
But she was asked to give up her seat to military personnel and wouldn't .
I know she was in a hurry to get home to her husband but wow , talk about twist of fate . Very tragic .
@@gardensofthegodsyeah lucky people who had to give up their seats.....
Most underrated channel on CZcams. Thanks again, Forrest!
Thank you again for your support!!!!
I agree.
We miss you Forrest! You are the best. Thanks so much for putting these stories out for us and taking the time to make these. God Bless.
Welcome back Forrest, I’ve missed your videos so much. Thank you for this educational & entertaining video plus the footage of the actual crash site. RIP to Ms. Lombard, her mother & the 20 other souls on board.
Man she was a beautiful woman, rest in peace all the passengers
Forrest...Your videos never cease to educate and entertain. You provide a perspective unlike any other. It is so good to have you back and I look forward to watching wherever you take us next.
And I love how Mr. Forrest totally respects the items left behind from the crash.
Just watched some of your old videos when this one popped up. Nice
Me too!
Nice upload. I enjoy how you go to the sites and show first hand what it looks like currently.
Glad you enjoy that aspect. Thank you for your support!!
Much respect for the hike you made up there not to mention the great content….a coin flip, and fear of flying would once again come up years later in a frigid cornfield in Iowa.
Thank you for your hard work!!
This popped up on CZcams. Very interesting. Nice job. I'm amazed that all the at least larger bits of wreckage weren't cleaned up at the time and that they are still there. I've read about this tragic crash a number of times, but seeing all this brings it to life. Thank you.
Thanks Forrest, you put much research and effort into these excellent videos. 👍
Thank you for sharing this sir. It’s amazing that after 80 years there is still wreckage of the plane where it crashed. I am pretty surprised that scavenger hunters haven’t taken it as souvenirs.
Most of the people who know who Carole Lombard was are too old to hike up there
Lots of great history and case details as usual!
Been waiting for your videos since last year! Worth it!
Sad story...she was doing good deeds. I've always wondered exactly where this happened. Thank you for sharing and explaining about the headings...a deadly error. God bless and stay safe.
You are so welcome and thank you for your kind words and support! I really appreciate it!!!
Me too. Poor Carole. She was really funny. Thanks Forrest for quite a bit of detail.
If god had wanted her safe, he would not have allowed the plane to crash. . . . .
@@gregoryretzlaff7884 Total lunacy.
Insatiable, blood-thirsty god.
This accident has always fascinated me and I've read and researched about it extensively so personally I thank you so very much for taking the time and effort to produce and share this with us all. I'm very much grateful
Such a great channel, Forrest. Love your videos and how respectful you are. Live in Vegas and that area definitely takes a bit of patience and hiking to get to. Thank you for putting so much into your videos, always a treat to get a notification!
Thanks so much! And thank you for your support!!!
He’s back!!
Absoultely stunning...detail, humanity, explanation of tragedy. Heretofore, my only familiarity was from reading about the Carole Lombard crash on Wikipedia. This provides incrdibles insights, and the reasons for. The exterior and interior shots of the Forrest Hills masoleum where Carole rests, were a fitting tribute. Exceptionally well done. Todd Holman, Mesa, AZ
I just discovered your channel & it's fascinating. I've learned alot from your explanation of the crash. I love the way that you were respectful about the pilot's mistake. You didn't berate them or make any negative comments. You explained the most likely reason for the crash. I'll be watching your videos from now on, including previous ones. RIP everyone on board.
A lot is TWO words
Great commentary. I’m really impressed that what you found you showed us, and put it back. Such respect! Thank you!
Wow this was just outstanding. I truly appreciate all the hard work it took putting this all together
When I first moved to Las Vegas back in 1996, a guy I worked with at that time told me about this wreck. It took two trips to find it, but well worth the effort. While picking through bits and pieces of the debris field that has slid downhill over the years, I found a mangled fork with the TWA logo on it that I still have today.
Been following your videos for years and they keep getting better and better, this one especially!
Thank you, Forrest! So happy to see another installment from you!
Poor Carole, such a tragic ending for her and everyone else onboard. That was a brief but very well done narrative of the crash. Amazing that parts of the plane are still there after over 80 years.
Found this channel just a few weeks ago and have binge watched every video since.
Excellent content, one of my favorite channels for sure, can’t wait to see more videos!
Awesome, thank you!
Great video Forrest and glad to see you back on CZcams 👍🏻
Missed your historical site video! Very happy you’re back. RIP Carol, truly a amazing actress.
Love Carole Lombard. She was a real talent during the Golden Age of Hollywood.
Astounding. I always assumed that someone was responsible for securing and hauling away plane crash debris in most cases. Very informative production. Thanks for your hard work.
Awesome job Forrest! Thank you for another great video! 👍
We appreciate these videos you make. Way better than network documentaries!
Dude you put in some serious work. Very well done.
Glad you’re back!
Good to see you back. Love your content. Very respectful and informative.
So glad you’re back. Your videos are fantastic.
Yet another interesting video. Thank you for making them!
I just discovered your channel last week, I love your content!
Thank you for your kindness! I truly appreciate it and I’m grateful you enjoy my content!!!
Gosh I love your video! Glad to see a new one popped on my list. Great job as always and that hike!!!!
Great presentation, thanks for making the effort to get all the way up there to take us along to see the crash site. I know that’s a big effort.
Fascinating and so respectful. Well done!
One of the many things that I like about your videos is that you ad a nice element of class. Even though these stories are very interesting, they are also tragic at the same time. But you are extremely respectful in your telling of these stories which ads a lot of classiness to the video. I really respect that about you. I would really like to collaborate with you on that case that we talked about. I'll shoot you an email with some information about it. Forrest Haggerty your videos are absolutely fascinating. That is because YOU are a fascinating man.
Yes, send me an email!
My favorite channel. I always look forward to your well researched videos. Thanks again!
Wow, thank you!
Thank you very much for creating the video as well as performing the location research. This event was and continues to be one of the most tragic our nation experienced during the 20th century.
Most tragic, really? I think that's a bit of a stretch.
Wow.. 80 years.. it’s respectful that lots of parts remain in this spot.
She’s buried at the cemetery near Clark, but this was and is her final real resting place.
Very interesting video 👏🏼
I think it’s so difficult to arrive there! ⛰🏜🧗🏻♂️
I'm impressed you made it up there. No small feat! Well done - as usual.
Great video.Thanks for the time spent making this.👍🏻
Thank you for the care you give in bringing this information. Loved her!
where have you been?❤ always a good day when you show up in my feed!
I was busy working, but now I’m retired and plan on putting out more videos!
This is a FANTASTIC channel!
Thank you 🙏 I’m happy you enjoy it!!!
Found this channel about 6 months ago and was becoming increasingly worried that I had found it too late. So happy to see you still uploading forrest, I really enjoy these videos and appreciate the work you put into them.
I just retired so there is more to come. I will make these videos as long as I’m physically able to. Thank you for your support!
There is something very soothing about you and your entertaining and informative videos. Well done as always 👍
Incredible that so many fragments from the crash remain. I respect you for leaving them where they lie; morbid souvenir hunters probably wouldn't hesitate to grab a fragment or two. Great research and presentation. A tragedy that shattered Clark Gable and changed his life. Highest respect for him for soldiering on and eventually resuming his career.
I just came from a channel called something like DAZE with Jordan the Lion ( I'm pretty certain that's the name ) with of the vid where this guy is showing him Carole Lombard's wedding ring that Clark Gable, supposedly over the years sent people up there at the crash site to find .
The guy shows other pieces of jewelry that is supposedly hers and who knows if everything he shows was really hers or not .
But my first thought was why isn't he trying to get it to Clark Gable's son or grandchildren ... ? ( if any of his family is still alive )
@@gardensofthegods Or, why isn't he trying to get it to Carole Lombard's descendants? They would have more of a claim on it than Gable's son or granddaughter. I have seen Jordan's video and also read that Clark Gable sent people up there to find Carole's wedding ring. And this FAA guy supposedly found it? I was skeptical.
One of the few channels on CZcams you can hit the like button before even seeing the video. We have missed you my friend.
Great video. Thanks Forrest. I’ve missed your content
So happy to see you again Mr. Haggerty! It has been a long time. I always look forward to your video tours, they are always so interesting!
Thank you for your support 🙏
The Legend returns.
Always enjoy your videos brother from the imperial county California 👍👍🇺🇲🇺🇲
Thank you! You are very kind!!
Cheers Forrest. I've been waiting for your onsite report since I saw Dan's video. Shame he didn't make it all the way up, but glad you did. Great work as always. 👍👍
Another excellent video. Covering all aspects with great boots on the ground investigative reporting and a clear concise narration. Big thanks.
Excellent video , much respect for Carol and Clarke .🇦🇺
Incredible story well put together! Thank You.
Thanks for watching it!
This is an excellent analysis. Thank you as always.
My favorite actress. Thanks for making this video. I’ve read so much about the crash over the years, but your video really brings it into perspective.
My favourite channel. Wish you’d post more often.
Now that I’m retired that’s the plan.
great job!
Thank you Dan! I’m looking forward to the next visit up there with you. You will definitely make it there next time!
Hi Dan. The NTSB report on this crash should be out soon.
This was excellent. Very informative and done so appropriately, with respect. I subscribed. Hoping to see more of these caliber videos.
Great job! Many thanks for sharing! 👍
I'm very impressed you made it up there. Well done - as usual.
It was a tough hike, but we’ll worth it.
Thank you for leaving it all in place.
Absolutely fascinating!
Thank you so much for all the effort that you put into these interesting, informative, and high quality videos Forrest. They are as good as any other documentaries that one will ever find anywhere. Take care and I will definitely see you on the next one.
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 You're very welcome sir!
As always, incredible content!! Thank you!
Rather than someone putting those parts in the tree later, could it be that the aircraft parts in that tree at roughly 7:20 are the result of that tree growing thru those parts for the last 80 years? Well done. Thank you for this video.
Very possible!
YES!! The long wait is over, and when a new Forrest video/lesson arrives, you know America is back on track! Thank you for sharing, Forrest.
You’re funny!!!
You always add insightful knowledge about your subjects. I still wish you would cover the Charles Whitman ordeal in Austin, for I know you cover every aspect and if I'm not mistaken all the landmarks still stand today. I appreciate all your videos.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you so much for your effort!
Hello Forrest!! :)) Another great video. I have always been interested in this accident and seeing all the parts up on the mountain. It's great to see your perspective on this. I have always been a Clark Gable fan and it's been a long time since I've been to Forest Lawn. My dad is buried there too.
Hello Vianey! Thank for watching the video. I’m sorry about your dad:(
Is he at the Glendale cemetery?
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 Thank you. It's been a long time but yes he is at Forest Lawn Glendale.
I wish I would have known that. I would have taken video of it and included in the video.
That would have been great to see! Next time you are at the cemetery, let me know and I will give you the location.
Thank you for taking us to this site, I've heard alot about this fateful flight and even that the movie Clark Gable did in the early 1960's the Misfits was filmed fairly close to this mountain and Clark Gable was always looking up towards the mountain during filming. The vector settings explanation now answer's My question as to why this happened Which is so sad since it was totally avoidable if the pilot's just used common sense regarding their new heading that was different than their usual heading and the simple adjustments could have been made saving everyone's life.
I have never fathomed why experienced pilots wouldn't change the settings as a matter of course!? What an oversight!
Was just wondering if you were going to upload anytime soon and i get blessed with a new video. Thank you!
Thanks for all your hard work
Shocked that the wreckage hasn't been taken after all these years!
What an excellent video. Thank you. Subbed.
Thank you for your support and subscribing!!!
What a tragedy. Your video is very tastefully done. Thank you for posting.
Thank you for such a respectful telling of the story.