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  • Star Trek · The Next Generation · s05e02 · Darmok
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  • @tjwparso
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    Star Trek · The Next Generation · s05e02 · Darmok
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  • @Shenruss
    @Shenruss Před 2 lety +414

    This scene was so poignant, it helped me understand that _true_ communication between beings was less about _words_ and more about making _feelings_ and _intentions_ known. A pertinent lesson for an 11 year old boy to remember, and have tried to live by 30 years later.

    • @aggroniq2268
      @aggroniq2268 Před 2 lety +10

      ♡❤♡ It's almost the same for me, but I was 12 and it was the rerun at Québec.

    • @ruthlessdraculigula1051
      @ruthlessdraculigula1051 Před 2 lety +10

      Alright, I'll make it a trifecta; I was 13 years old. I'll never forget because the original air date was on my birthday. This episode truly made me understand how shared adversity can make friends from peoples of starkly different walks.

    • @Shenruss
      @Shenruss Před 2 lety +7

      @@ruthlessdraculigula1051 Damn, my dudes, seems we ALL hit that age range and absorbed the significance of it, without ever meeting. To think that we all, from different places, cultures, backgrounds and probably ethnicities would understand this message...
      That is MEGA Meta!
      This show _literally_ did it's job and crossed civilizations to bring them all the same message of communication and harmony!
      *How freaking awesome is that?!*

    • @Shenruss
      @Shenruss Před 2 lety +1

      @@aggroniq2268 Was in New York at the time, my dude! 1992 was a good, if trying, year!

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 Před 2 lety

      I think I really understood things better when I saw a guy that really wanted a cold 🍺 🍻 beer, but he had no money, and I was 9 years old, and slipped him a twenty when nobody was looking, and I could feel his gratitude.

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 Před 2 lety +226

    > People panicking
    > Picard walks in with torn clothes as if that's nothing
    > Starts speaking like those weird aliens
    > Everyone impressed
    > Goes back to his chair like always
    What a boss.

    • @skippythealien9627
      @skippythealien9627 Před rokem +13

      I love how everyone on the Enterprise is wondering wtf is going on, then the Tamarian starts speaking angrily, and then Picard goes "TEMARC!!! THE RIVER TEMARC!"
      they must have thought he was out of his mind lol

    • @DarthGTB
      @DarthGTB Před rokem +11

      Directly from the transporter. No medbay stay. Just a boring Thursday.

    • @Verbalaesthet
      @Verbalaesthet Před rokem +14

      @@DarthGTB The moment when finally someone spoke their language was the greatest day of their lives, but for Picard it was Tuesday.

    • @doesitmatter1667
      @doesitmatter1667 Před 7 měsíci +14

      “Picard, on the bridge, his clothes torn.”

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 Před 2 lety +236

    Man, those tamarian ships would have been useful against the dominion. Taking out a galaxy class shields with one salvo while taking no damage whatsoever.

    • @JamesJ30t
      @JamesJ30t Před 2 lety +27

      @Yaldabaoth -- Yeah that Tamarian ship was bad ass. The Tamarians were probably one of the groups the Dominion made a not aggression pact with.

    • @yaldabaoth2
      @yaldabaoth2 Před 2 lety +94

      @@JamesJ30t I would have liked to see Weyoun negotiate that. The founders, their puddle of goo wide.

    • @KenshiImmortalWolf
      @KenshiImmortalWolf Před 2 lety +14

      wouldn't of been surprised if tamarian shield tech was adapted to federation use when they joined.

    • @hunter35474
      @hunter35474 Před 2 lety +13

      @@JamesJ30tThe fact that the model builders clearly used part of a (model) Imperial Star Destroyer hull as the Tamarian ship's bow makes it even more bad ass, in my opinion.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 Před 2 lety +5

      Yep. The also used that same Tamarian warship model on several DS9 episodes too.

  • @TheZetaKai
    @TheZetaKai Před 2 lety +178

    I like that the monster itself is almost ignored by everyone. "Yeah, there's an interdimensional killing machine down there on that planet, nobody knows why, but it's occasionally useful for bonding rituals." The universe is a strange place.

    • @evm6177
      @evm6177 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Wait, perfect strangers dropped on a unidentified planet and must fight the beast.. Sounds kinda like the exact plot for 'The Predators' right!?

    • @SuperHongTay
      @SuperHongTay Před 7 měsíci +5

      I don’t constantly worry about being attacked by lions in Africa either

    • @kazemizu
      @kazemizu Před 7 měsíci +2

      Don't you remember what happened to Enkidu?? Do not kill the beast straight out of mythology

  • @giordanogarduno9207
    @giordanogarduno9207 Před 2 lety +161

    So sad for Dathon. He was awesome.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +15

      Paul Winfield played Captain Dathon very well in this episode. One of the finest Trek guest actor ever. RIP.

    • @stantonvalberg9814
      @stantonvalberg9814 Před 2 lety +18

      @@LGranthamsHeir he was also Captain Tyrell in The Wrath Of Khan.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 Před 2 lety +7

      @@LGranthamsHeir Don't forget. He was captain Tyrell in Startrek II, The Wrath of Khan.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 Před 2 lety +1

      @@stantonvalberg9814 👍🖖

    • @justanobadi6655
      @justanobadi6655 Před rokem +5

      Kailash. When it rises.

  • @bobpage6597
    @bobpage6597 Před 2 lety +145

    "Sokath! His eyes open!" The way the Tamarian delivers this line, and sounds joyous I take his meaning to be something akin to "He understands!!", happy that Picard has a semblance of understanding in how the Tamarians communicate.

    • @j-marie4006
      @j-marie4006 Před 2 lety +7

      What he gets told next is not so joyous.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety +3

      Kinda religious-cultish. 'He speaks our history, he is initiated now. We won him over.'
      Nerds. 😆

    • @shep9231
      @shep9231 Před rokem +16

      Even after he had the Enterprise-D dead to rights... he was STILL willing to talk!. THAT is how you know you are dealing with someone who's willing to listen...

    • @manjackson2772
      @manjackson2772 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@shep9231The Tamarians were Picard's equal in their dedication to diplomacy here.

    • @HunhowsShadowStalker
      @HunhowsShadowStalker Před 7 měsíci +9

      That is exactly what it means. Their phrases have a very general meaning and require context to make sense.
      "Xinda, his face black, his eyes red" - Anger in battle, pain.
      "The river Temarc, in winter." - Stillness or silence.
      "Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra" - Cooperation between different people.
      "Darmok and Jalad on the ocean" - Two people being stranded together.
      "Sokath, his eyes open." - Understanding.
      "The beast of Tenagra" - A dangerous obstacle.
      "Uzani, his army." - A battle strategy.
      "Shaka, when the walls fell." - Failure.
      "Picard and Dathon, at El-Adrel" - First contact between alien races.
      "Mirab, with sails unfurled" - Travelling.
      "Temba, his arms open." - Offering a gift.
      "Temba, at rest" - Accepting or declining a gift.
      To offer a full translation of the conversation:
      "You have attacked us, and we will fight back if we must!"
      "Quiet! I demand that you be silent!"
      "Did you...?"
      "Cooperate? Yes. We were stranded on the planet below."
      "He understands us!"
      "We faced a powerful foe. We attempted a strategy to defeat it, but your captain died in the attempt."
      "We will remember this first meeting between our people."
      "I'd like you to have his knife back."
      "You may keep it."

  • @Bannor21
    @Bannor21 Před 6 měsíci +45

    Something I've realized about the Tamarian language is that communicating through metaphor is the same as communicating via meme. Once I realized this I started making up my own Tamarian phrases. A favourite example... Phillip J Fry, his eyes squinted.

    • @SeenAGreatLight
      @SeenAGreatLight Před 4 měsíci +8

      Pikachu, his mouth open!
      Boromir, at the Council.
      Leeroy Jenkins, his fist closed!

    • @Whackadoodle357
      @Whackadoodle357 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@SeenAGreatLightLeeroy Jenkins, when the walls fell

    • @borntopwnyou
      @borntopwnyou Před 3 měsíci +3

      Felix, on the bridge, his lips loose

    • @VonArgylle
      @VonArgylle Před 3 měsíci +6

      John Cena, his presence unseen.

    • @zergeistrush460
      @zergeistrush460 Před 2 měsíci

      Wojack, pointing in awe

  • @jodysmoviesandshowschannel8698

    This really is one of the best episodes.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +8

      One of the best episodes of the entire Star Trek series, not just TNG. Rivaled only with "The Inner Light" (which will be screened later in Season 5)

    • @Bealzbob
      @Bealzbob Před 2 lety +7

      I've watched The Inner Light several times and yet on my most recent viewing it got me like it had never got me before. I must be getting old and soft.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +1

      @@Bealzbob I think we all feel the same after each re-watch. The message that resonates from the episode, like the importance of family & friends, circle of life, and consequences of climate change are all becoming consequential as we get older.

    • @Bealzbob
      @Bealzbob Před 2 lety +5

      Agreed. And it means Star Trek isn't becoming less relevant as we get older. It's becoming more relevant.

    • @zenairzulu1378
      @zenairzulu1378 Před 2 lety

      @@Bealzbob this is so true

  • @Bealzbob
    @Bealzbob Před 2 lety +57

    The director has restored power sir.

    • @TheZetaKai
      @TheZetaKai Před 2 lety +9

      LOL, I know right. The dramatic climax has passed now; we can have our denouement in standard lighting.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheZetaKai While this is a common film trope, it was so blunt that I assume the Tamarians had some suppression going on, or maybe an energetic boost to compensate for the damage.

  • @drake8050
    @drake8050 Před 2 lety +43

    It speaks volumes about this series that the most badass scene of the episode is daddy Picard walking onto the bridge.

    • @YarHarFD
      @YarHarFD Před rokem +3

      Came here to say that. First contact vibes

  • @MasterTalon
    @MasterTalon Před 2 lety +52

    Temba, his beans open.
    This is one of the best examples of Trek. Always loved this episode.

  • @chrishestand1
    @chrishestand1 Před rokem +41

    I forgot that he changed the metaphor to Picard and dathan to emphasize the importance of what happened between our two species that day, and now I’m over here trying to choke back tears and stuff. We need more sci-fi like this.

    • @Tosslehoffe
      @Tosslehoffe Před 11 měsíci +17

      he didn't change a metaphor, they adopted a new one. "picard and Dathon at el-adrel" just means "successful first contact"
      something the Tamarians had not managed prior to that point

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@Tosslehoffe I always took it to mean that Picard and Dathon's story had become part of their legendarium, that those two were now regarded in the same way that Sokath and Temba were.

  • @markmaz56
    @markmaz56 Před 2 lety +32

    Not only one of the best Star Trek episodes, but one of the best examples of what makes science fiction great!

  • @ReganSpor
    @ReganSpor Před 2 lety +46

    This has to be one of my favourite stand alone episodes.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +5

      One of the best episodes of the entire Star Trek series, not just TNG. Rivaled only with "The Inner Light" (which will be screened later in Season 5)

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 Před 2 lety +2

      @@LGranthamsHeir I'll give you that. The inner light was another good stand alone episode.

    • @armand531
      @armand531 Před rokem +1

      @@LGranthamsHeir 100% agree Darmok and The Inner light are both in my top 5 TNG epsidoes.

  • @ultramaximusreviews
    @ultramaximusreviews Před 2 lety +119

    I remember when this 1st aired. My late father was very intrigued by this race & speculated they would become a bigger part in the show. Even though they didn't, when one made an appearance on Lower Decks it made me think of him. Every time I see this episode it makes me think of him. It's also the 1st time we see the Captain's jacket but the last time it had leather shoulders - the remainder of the times we see it has wool shoulders. The whole point of the jacket was Patrick Stewart wanted a more comfortable uniform he could take on and off easily when he got too hot.

    • @RevanHorner
      @RevanHorner Před 2 lety +1

      Hey, that's beautiful

    • @zagnorch1336
      @zagnorch1336 Před 2 lety +7

      Picard's very first Playmates action figure sported that jacket and shirt... only without the midriff rip.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 Před 2 lety +4

      It would have been great if they gave this race/speices more attention on TNG (or DS9).

    • @chrishestand1
      @chrishestand1 Před rokem +1

      It’s weird about losing your dad, isn’t it? The things he loved suddenly make a bigger impact on you. Couldn’t stand half of my dad’s favorite music until I lost him, and now most of that is in my own most favorite songs. I’m glad this stuck out to you and him. I feel like little things from your memories of what impacted him end up impacting you. I try to stress this to my kids once in a while, so maybe this thing I say might be helpful if I say it here? “When you lose someone you love, the most important thing is to remember the good things they taught you, and live the lessons you learned. Eventually you’ll pass those same lessons on to another, and maybe one day they’ll do the same. In this way, the best parts of that person you loved will live on forever. Do this, and not only will you ensure that their life wasn’t wasted, but also your own.”

  • @YD-uq5fi
    @YD-uq5fi Před 2 lety +24

    I still can't believe such an intelligent episode of television was ever created.
    In college (which was around the time this episode first aired) me and 3 of my friends who were fanatically into TNG at the time used these various phrases in our own conversations when applicable. 'Shaka when the walls fell!' was the most oft-used. But various uses of 'X and Y at Tanagrah' and 'on the ocean' were often used as well. Reciting 'Gilgamesh, a king', was a frequent ritual.

  • @taopilot2669
    @taopilot2669 Před 2 lety +33

    "Stand by to fire, Mr. Worf."
    "I'm always ready to fire, you know that, sir."

    • @TheEDFLegacy
      @TheEDFLegacy Před 2 lety +1

      _Oh my_

    • @epiendless1128
      @epiendless1128 Před 2 lety +2

      Stargate:
      Jackson: Uh, you should probably prepare to return fire.
      Marks: For the record, I'm always prepared. I just have to press this button here.
      (Marks points at a big red button on his console.)
      Jackson: Right… I just - I thought that's what you're supposed to say, so…
      Marks: I know.

  • @LGranthamsHeir
    @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +83

    Putting Riker and Worf in charge of the Enterprise in a tense diplomatic situation only results in more conflict with the Tamarians because of their tendencies to use aggressive, war-like tactics. It's good that the philosopher-captain Picard was able to come in time and use his newly acquired knowledge about the Tamarian language to cool down the situation.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 Před 2 lety +3

      I couldn't possibly agree more.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Před rokem

      So you're ignoring Riker making communication attempts earlier in the episode and being ignored by the Tamarians?

    • @arthurjamesbouie7053
      @arthurjamesbouie7053 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @zerrodefex...Riker had no clue what they were saying to him and definitely the Tamarians hadn't mastered the English language. Knowing "Tamok and Gilead on the ocean" might have helped Riker.

  • @Gustavo-The-Great
    @Gustavo-The-Great Před 2 lety +17

    Picard is such a statesman.

  • @ohkaygoplay
    @ohkaygoplay Před 2 lety +38

    We need more people like Picard in this world.

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 Před 2 lety +6

      @DriftZ TwoSeven There is one Race, the Human Race, I hope to see Doctor Martin Luther King's vision become reality.

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 Před 2 lety +3

      @DriftZ TwoSeven
      Yeah, help keep Racism alive and well.
      I am from a multi ethnic multicultural family, and we have all colours, and I never divided my family by race or skin colour.
      Let us hate our tiny differences, especially anyone LGBTQI, HOW DARE THEY LOVE EACH OTHER !
      But is is fine & Dandy to blow people up, just never let two men or two women fall in 🥰 love, but they can kill each other in an approved War.
      DriftZ is obviously a Bigot.
      Racial genetics, Racial Culture, Racial thought processes.
      The Manifesto of Racists.

    • @krioni86sa
      @krioni86sa Před 2 lety

      @@carminemurray6624 he is a bigot, i agree. he ia dumb and a racist.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Před rokem

      ​@@carminemurray6624 you first say that there's only one race then talk about multiple races, try to keep your strawmen consistent at least race hustler.

    • @marcmarparran7753
      @marcmarparran7753 Před 8 měsíci

      Trump, tomato sauce plates smashed against the wall. Biden, inflation reduced. 💙

  • @stormthrush37
    @stormthrush37 Před rokem +13

    I always had trouble keeping up with Picard's exchange with the Tamarian First Officer starting at 2:52. For anyone else that had a problem with it here's a rough translation (this should at least be in the ballpark):
    Tamarian First Officer: We're very angry at you!
    Picard: We seek to stop fighting! We want peace. (???)
    TFO: What happened down on the planet?
    Picard: Your Captain and I stood together against the beast down on the planet.
    TFO: He understands our language now!
    Picard: We fought the beast together, we had a plan to be him...but we failed. Your captain is dead.
    TFO: (Expresses sorrow/ritualistic honor gestures along with other Tamarian crew)
    Picard: I offer you your Captain's book.
    TFO: (signals to crewman to beam it over)
    TFO: Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel fighting together against a terrible beast, finding common ground, and humans and Tamarians finally being able to communicate for the first time; we will remember this day in our legends. (Turns to crew) Alright, it's time to go.
    Picard: I offer the Captain's knife that he gave me to fight the beast with.
    TFO: No, you keep it.
    (Power comes back on on Enterprise)
    TFO: (Motions to close channel, channel closes)

    • @mastershredder2002
      @mastershredder2002 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Picard just killed the captain and took his book and knife.

  • @mistermeow527
    @mistermeow527 Před 2 lety +38

    Fantastic episode. It's not just about the novelty (nor the workabilty) of a race that speaks in metaphors but in the mutual desire to find the commonality between the two cultures with seemingly little in common.

    • @absue
      @absue Před 2 lety +2

      @DriftZ TwoSeven It's possible only for individuals such as Picard and Dathon. They do exist on Earth, just not in large numbers.

    • @g33dav3y
      @g33dav3y Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah that's the bees' knees. We should all meet on the gridiron and settle it Mano a Mano.

  • @BrendanBlake42
    @BrendanBlake42 Před 2 lety +9

    His beans, the can open

  • @spiv
    @spiv Před rokem +6

    my anthro teacher had the class watch this episode in class when we were discussing language. everyone was like "oh this is interesting" and im in the back like "watch this part lol"

  • @MichaelRobertHart
    @MichaelRobertHart Před rokem +7

    In the first conversation with the Tamarians, it’s nonsensical.
    By this conversation, you can follow the entire exchange.
    Beautiful

  • @rahn45
    @rahn45 Před 2 lety +59

    Beans... fully baked.

    • @AvengerBB1
      @AvengerBB1 Před 2 lety +8

      Beans, the can empty. :(

    • @david2869
      @david2869 Před 2 lety +2

      Beans, all over the floor!

    • @slinkerdeer
      @slinkerdeer Před 2 lety +7

      Shaka, when the can opener failed

    • @stevenshewfelt888
      @stevenshewfelt888 Před 2 lety +3

      Picard and Daithon at the campsite............*loud farting*

    • @alangumbel7514
      @alangumbel7514 Před 2 lety +1

      @@stevenshewfelt888 want some more beans Mr. Taggart? No i think you fellas have had enough!

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines Před 2 lety +13

    Picard and Jalad..at Tanagra..at El a Dril...the River Tamak...

  • @gaarathesandslayer
    @gaarathesandslayer Před 2 lety +5

    Star Trek, it's franchise paid, it's fanbase on the ocean
    Tjwparso, his uploads
    Tjwparso, his fanbase singing
    Tjwparso and his fanbase, on the ocean.

  • @filovirus1
    @filovirus1 Před 2 lety +10

    everytime I watch this episode I cry. the desperation to communicate, the deadly risk, friendship, the sacrifice. it's a deep love story in a single episode. crying again today.

  • @ScottALaFollette
    @ScottALaFollette Před 2 lety +6

    “…. his eyes open….”.
    The ultimate commitment/sacrifice towards simple communication.
    Wishing world leaders shared the same determination. ✨ 🦻✌🏻🌟…..

  • @jayo_z
    @jayo_z Před 2 lety +14

    This is probably my favorite single TNG scene. Thanks for uploading.

  • @Psiros
    @Psiros Před 2 lety +11

    Always wondered why Riker called Red Alert after the fact they initiated combat.

  • @ArK047
    @ArK047 Před 2 lety +6

    In a way, a close group of friends speak in a similar manner sometimes. If I told the internet, "John's gloves in the garage. Greg's rough day at work. Steve forgot his umbrella." it would probably not make much sense, or at least not the sort of sense I meant. But if I said this to my friends, they'd pretty quickly get that someone got drunk, fell in a creek, and got sick from being soaked. And yes, it's difficult when there's an activity with friends of friends because those outside the group have no idea what we're talking about.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Před rokem +1

      Look at how we communicate with memes in words and images, it's no different than this situation.

  • @Spacegoat92
    @Spacegoat92 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm glad they corrected the phasers firing from the torpedo launcher. Now we can move forward as a species...

  • @Trecesolotienesdos
    @Trecesolotienesdos Před 2 lety +5

    That captains jacket was cool

  • @aggressiveattitudeera887
    @aggressiveattitudeera887 Před 2 lety +10

    Sure could've used those guys help during The Dominion War.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +3

      I know. It's sad the Tamarians were never seen and mentioned again in TNG and other 'classic-Trek' series. With their firepower, they would've easily beaten the Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, and Romulans w/no problem. Only recently in the "Lower Deck" series we got another Tamarian character appeared - assuming you accept "Lower Deck" as part of the 'classic-Trek' canon, that is.

  • @Mogget01
    @Mogget01 Před 2 lety +7

    What an amazing scene, the writer(s) of this episode are waaaaay under appreciated.

  • @trickydicky2908
    @trickydicky2908 Před 2 lety +3

    Love Picard's jacket.

  • @00z3r0
    @00z3r0 Před 2 lety +4

    Phasers, their positions fixed. Trekkies, their sanity saved.

  • @ruthlessdraculigula1051
    @ruthlessdraculigula1051 Před 2 lety +5

    One of my all-time favorite episodes.

  • @martinhavelock5106
    @martinhavelock5106 Před 2 lety +34

    Why can't we have Star Trek written like this again?

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +5

      Most TNG- writers & producers have moved on to other sci-fi series - Ron Moore to BSG, Brannon Braga & Andre Bormanis to "The Orville," etc. Most writers recruited as part of 'Kurtzman-Trek' are not veterans of TNG and other 1980s-90s Trek series, hence you see the difference in how the Trek-verse was projected in the 'classic/Roddenberry-influenced' and 'Kurtzman' era easily :(

    • @Nizzet
      @Nizzet Před 2 lety +9

      Because most mainstream entertainment in the US right now is made for children by those with the mentality of children.

    • @ruthlessdraculigula1051
      @ruthlessdraculigula1051 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Nizzet Spot on, Mr. Wolfe. Spot on.

    • @TheZetaKai
      @TheZetaKai Před 2 lety +7

      Short answer: Because those in charge don't want to do so. They make money and project their chosen message without this kind of writing and acting. They don't care if you don't like it.

    • @wagnerthomas6780
      @wagnerthomas6780 Před 2 lety +7

      Star trek Picard when the walls fell

  • @DarthDregan
    @DarthDregan Před 2 lety +2

    “Picard and Dathon at El-adrel” = Understanding.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety

      They already got one for that, the 'his eyes open' line. There would likely be a unique property assigned to it. As we have several words for almost but not exactly the same thing.
      No two encounters are identical, and by acknowledging the differences that make them unique, a new way of thinking is created.

  • @retroelectrical
    @retroelectrical Před 2 lety +14

    Ya know, I've always wondered how in Star Trek they can get a lock on something and beam it. I can understand beaming life forms, that's easy. But to essentially "snipe" beam something out of someone's hand on another ship, is an entirely different story. :)

    • @david2869
      @david2869 Před 2 lety +4

      It's the scanners that make it possible. Being able to scan and record something that thoroughly is the real wonder. "Beaming" is just the destruction and re-creation of the object.

    • @TheZetaKai
      @TheZetaKai Před 2 lety +3

      Just don't take the hand with it.

    • @S31Syntax
      @S31Syntax Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheZetaKai ouch my fingernails got beamed

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety +1

      Why? Seems like merely a little more focus. It's actually strange if Federation beaming cannot do that. Considering what fancy things they can do with their filters and buffers and all.

  • @warrenjones7395
    @warrenjones7395 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This episode made me cry.
    Peace, communication and understanding. What this world sorely needs.

  • @Nebagram
    @Nebagram Před 2 lety +11

    Still one of the best ever episodes of Trek, and I'll give Lower Decks all the credit it deserves and then some for showing that Dathon's sacrifice was not in vain. :-)

    • @armand531
      @armand531 Před rokem

      I've never seen lower decks. Did they do a follow episode with the Tamrians?

    • @greatgoldino
      @greatgoldino Před rokem +2

      @@armand531 In Season 2 the new security chief is a Tamarian, he’s a recurring character from then on. They even managed to fully translate everything. Kayshon is a fun addition to the cast

  • @LGranthamsHeir
    @LGranthamsHeir Před 2 lety +15

    "Star Trek TNG: Darmok" or for Captain Picard: "The one where I learn to communicate with a meme-speaking alien race!!"

  • @markhine3232
    @markhine3232 Před 2 lety +2

    I love this episode. Thesacrifice for mere communication. This is probably my fave of the series. The end sequence was especially enjoyable. Thanks for the post.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety +2

      The key is that it was not 'mere' communication. The Tamarians were demonstrating the essence of their value system.
      Basically, as one likely aspect: _Don't tell me, show me. ... I want to know whether we can work together, so we have to try to work together._

  • @Cortexion
    @Cortexion Před 2 lety +5

    Beans & toast. For dinner.

  • @batgurrl
    @batgurrl Před 2 měsíci

    One of the very best episodes. I love the way Data tries to see how anyone else on the bridge is responding

  • @stars9084
    @stars9084 Před 2 lety +8

    You know watching this for the umpteenth time I'm only just now realizing the way the first officer reacted to the Captain's log might give us a clue about how they communicated. He looked at it and recited the title of a new story. Maybe that was the significance of Dathon's log. All their stories and maybe all their complex communication is written. They use titles, settings, and characters as shorthand

    • @thething1710
      @thething1710 Před 2 lety +2

      Yep, and that both Dathon and Picard will always be part of the Tamarian's language now, as an example of what happened in their situation.

  • @Michael-kx2bn
    @Michael-kx2bn Před 2 lety +3

    The writers out did themselves on this one! They were smart and creative on this episode. What a different spin on communication.

  • @dahlesa
    @dahlesa Před 2 lety +2

    Sometimes it needs dire situation before one understands another....

  • @mflinch6061
    @mflinch6061 Před 2 lety +7

    Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive...

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety

      😄 I was thinking about jive at the beginning of the episode. It may help to get a better understanding of the Tamarians.

  • @thefurrybastard1964
    @thefurrybastard1964 Před 2 lety +2

    One of the best TNG Episodes with a quite alien mindset in it.

  • @Jason.W.
    @Jason.W. Před 2 lety +3

    I’d love to have seen more of this race.

  • @guitarvocs
    @guitarvocs Před 2 měsíci

    I watched this the night it was broadcast. I cried like a baby at the end. This is the perfection of science fiction.

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich Před 10 měsíci +2

    And now thanks to Dathon's sacrifice, Kayshon became a Starfleet officer.

  • @andyh4518
    @andyh4518 Před 2 lety +1

    Kind of slow on the red alert there Riker. I'm sure all of the civilians appreciated the unexpected shaking.

  • @CombatIneffective
    @CombatIneffective Před 2 lety +2

    I always loved this scene. So amazingly done. It made you feel like you were actually there and this was important to have happen. The reactions and emotional connection was incredible.

  • @slobodatom96
    @slobodatom96 Před 2 lety +1

    The episode that taught me the epic of Gilgamesh and Enkedu

  • @j-marie4006
    @j-marie4006 Před 2 lety +3

    When they mourn their captain's death....so sad

  • @Verbalaesthet
    @Verbalaesthet Před 2 lety +2

    I always come back to watch this episode. It's so magical.

  • @kasbakgaming
    @kasbakgaming Před 7 měsíci

    This episode and the Tamarian's language always fascinates me when looking at our own society and how we communicate, particularly now when we use memes and references to popular media so often.

  • @jamesmnguyen
    @jamesmnguyen Před 2 měsíci

    I love how the viewer also gained enough knowledge to understand basically all the dialogue after Picard gets beamed back up.

  • @Mmouse_
    @Mmouse_ Před 2 lety +3

    Weird language... And yet, the nod at the end... The nod, is universal.

  • @randomname1251
    @randomname1251 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This scene still gives me chills. A truly magnificent episode

  • @sonicguyver7445
    @sonicguyver7445 Před 2 lety +1

    Daemok at Tanagra! The beans are open!

  • @awesomemccoolname7111

    The TV, it's lights bright. Our childhood, when Star Trek was on.

  • @WessyD123
    @WessyD123 Před 7 měsíci +1

    i remember the phaser blasts coming out of the forward torpedo launcher in the original of this scene, they must of fixed it for the bluray release..

  • @Kazedor
    @Kazedor Před 2 lety +1

    I've been wanting to see this scene again for so long but I couldn't remember the vernacular. Thanks for uploading.

  • @Brew78
    @Brew78 Před 2 lety +3

    I just.. I gotta know, where'd the notepad come from? He certainly wasn't holding it during battle, and it's not like a big metal square would fit in a pocket, even if those suits *have* pockets.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety +1

      It was flat enough that we can assume he put it in/under his jacket.
      In fact, that might be a or one reason why they let him wear that jacket for this episode.
      It is also odd how he would suddenly start wearing it during his captain duties and then happen to get beamed down on a planet for days and coerced into survival mode.

  • @TheFlyingHeart
    @TheFlyingHeart Před 7 měsíci

    If you are in LA, you can go to the spot where this was filmed.
    It’s in Bronson Canyon, around the corner from the mining pit that has the Batcave.
    A zillion films and tv shows have filmed there. Even episodes of TJ Hooker with William Shatner.
    At 1:10 when the creature blinks into sight, on the left, way back is a big green hill. That hill, has the Hollywood Sign on it. They cropped the shot , just to the right of the sign. Behind Picard, over the hill, is all of LA, right there.
    I’d say it was filmed in the summer. Because all of those plants on the ground are dead and dried up. In the spring, they are green , and have little yellow flowers on top.

  • @thomasrinneberg7012
    @thomasrinneberg7012 Před 2 lety +3

    I wonder how this language could work. If I'd say "Christ on the height of Golgotha" you'd probably understand that I want to say "Sacrifice". Or maybe "Torture"? In any way you understand because you know the story. But how would you learn about the story in the first place as a child, if you have no words to tell it other than via references to even earlier stories, which you can't tell because you have no words other than even... you get the point.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety +1

      Haha, dude, that was the whole point of this story.
      ...
      You learn through experience! You are being shown. - I imagine a very ritualistic society, with strong effort at preservation. (Which we have, too, though, but through other means.)
      How do you teach warp engineering if you only have historical metaphors? ... Less talk, more action. 😉 They talk *after* they act.

    • @TheWPhilosopher
      @TheWPhilosopher Před 5 měsíci

      The reverse of us. We learn short phrases as kids. The Cat sat on the mat. (Could mean to rest also) then get more verbose. I'd imagine kids in Tamarian get read the story of Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra to understand the meaning of the phrase. It's not just metaphor but also idioms. Like kill two birds with one stone doesn't literally mean to go and kill two birds but it means to achieve two goals with one action.

  • @Just_Call_Me_Tim
    @Just_Call_Me_Tim Před 6 měsíci

    This gives me chills. And now, to bed.

  • @adammullarkey4996
    @adammullarkey4996 Před rokem

    "O'Brien, transport me to the bridge immediately!" Potential lives lost by not giving that order.

  • @KeysofIDproductions
    @KeysofIDproductions Před 7 měsíci

    I know episodes like Best of Both Worlds and The Inner Light are quintessential GOATs of Star Trek TNG, but Darmok I believe is what truly defines the core meaning behind Star Trek itself. Seeking out new life and civilizations (encountering an alien species with a language they couldn't understand), and boldly going where no one has gone before (going beyond to understand that species and become their allies).

  • @Grahf0
    @Grahf0 Před 2 lety +2

    The acting captain of the other vessel better have gone on to do great things in any other fiction he appeared in.
    He literally was surprise-attacked by the the USS Enterprise and her FULL CREW, save for Picard himself, and he could have easily destroyed them if Picard hadn't arrived.
    Even Picard would think that his command of the ship during that crisis was commendable.

    • @JnEricsonx
      @JnEricsonx Před 2 lety +1

      Even funnier when you realize the original captain is Paul Winfield from Wrath of Khan.

  • @HellOnWheel
    @HellOnWheel Před 10 měsíci +1

    For a while I tried using "Shaka, when the walls fell" as a cuss whenever I messed something up or like stubbed my toe or something. But no one around me would get the reference, so I stopped using it. I guess that's the appropriate result of speaking Tamarian.

  • @Bladewolf3000
    @Bladewolf3000 Před 2 lety +1

    I am a huge Star Trek fan this is the one episode that made my brain hurt after watching it trying to figure out what they were talking about until the end when it finally cleared up but it was really hard to understand but it was an awesome episode

  • @wristdisabledwriter2893
    @wristdisabledwriter2893 Před 2 lety +1

    What a way to tell someone someone died

  • @jean-louislalonde6070
    @jean-louislalonde6070 Před 22 dny

    Poetry in outer space. Riiight...

  • @Paradox3713
    @Paradox3713 Před rokem +1

    Picard reporting the loss of their captain...a friend, still chokes me up.

  • @paulzy5192
    @paulzy5192 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice jacket!!👍

  • @shaundis2117
    @shaundis2117 Před 2 lety +3

    corrected phaser fire . the original drove me ape shit .

    • @momokochama1844
      @momokochama1844 Před 2 lety +2

      well, in the original Geordi sent an ensign with a handphaser into the torpedo tube because he couldn't get the phaserbanks online xD

  • @sluggo9687
    @sluggo9687 Před rokem +1

    Powerful

  • @yrysroda8592
    @yrysroda8592 Před 6 měsíci

    Single best scene in the entire franchise (comoing from a VOY/B'Elanna fan)

  • @edeancozzens3833
    @edeancozzens3833 Před 4 měsíci

    Watching this helps me understand the communications from the Creator in the Bible. Similar methods are used there. Stories of how various people in the past related and had experiences with the Creator and with one another helps us understand concepts of al kinds of topics. David and Goliath for example, or the Prodigal Son in the New Testament, teach a whole host of lessons told in life-story forms.

  • @BooN877
    @BooN877 Před 7 měsíci

    The creature will never hurt anyone again because Mike has his head

  • @Dowlphin
    @Dowlphin Před 2 lety

    Bruce and student, his kick in the dragon's garden.

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire Před 2 lety +1

    A cloaking Tricerotaur, hell of an enemy creature.

    • @HelenaRG71
      @HelenaRG71 Před 2 lety

      Maybe the founders use some of its genom for the Jem-Hadar... who knows...

  • @obied1182
    @obied1182 Před měsícem

    The fact that Dathon actor was on the original star trek series

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_ Před 2 lety +3

    VERY interesting race. Damn shame they never reappeared.

    • @reddyredwolf3931
      @reddyredwolf3931 Před 2 lety +3

      Actually a new character in Star Trek Lower Decks Season 2 is one.

  • @shawnbates1804
    @shawnbates1804 Před 2 lety +2

    Made a special ceramjc mixed media piece honoring this episode. If you would like to see a picture of it let me know.

  • @tubenachos
    @tubenachos Před rokem

    Picard's uniform is awesome 👌

  • @humphreyjames6252
    @humphreyjames6252 Před 2 lety

    one of my favorites 😀

  • @mistermonologue2442
    @mistermonologue2442 Před rokem +1

    "New friends?"
    " I don't know...but at least they're not new enemies"
    Lmaoo the poor federation just wants all the friends but everyone's so hostile that this is the best they can hope for.

  • @Dowlphin
    @Dowlphin Před 2 lety

    They are matching their maneuvers? Yeah, I guess the Enterprise was flying at 0% impulse and the Tamarians did the same. No wonder they can keep up.
    What I find a bit strange is that they would still want to maintain their suppression field after their captain has died, almost as if they wanted Picard to either kill it or be killed, too. ... Maybe as a kind of pact of equals? Diplomatic negotiation where you are willing to die for the other and expect the same in return to have good relations?
    But then it was strongly indicated that they actually didn't know. ... What orders did they have? I wonder. How else was this gonna end?
    Generally this appears to be a diplomacy that doesn't value words much, but wants to know truth through testing someone, to show when someone is serious.
    It is really beautiful how they included Picard in their history. And that can also be seen as a first big stepping stone for understanding their ways.

  • @DraculaCronqvist
    @DraculaCronqvist Před rokem

    Tjwparso, his beans served!

  • @randomrazr
    @randomrazr Před 2 lety +4

    wait did they fix the short scene of phasers coming out of the torpedo launcher ??????

    • @Nizzet
      @Nizzet Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, they fixed that when they updated the special effects for the HD release. I noticed that too.

    • @randomrazr
      @randomrazr Před 2 lety

      @@Nizzet they could have put more effort in showing the phase pulse goig around before it fires if i made sense