Game Devs Talk About "Developing" For Valve's Steam Deck
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Developers from PlayGround Games, The Behemoth, Bandai Namco, Motion Twin and more discuss "developing" for Steam Deck. This is just companion footage for my written Steam Deck review at: www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevan...
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Wow, the comments from Harada San! Very complimentary of Proton!!!
It suprises me that there are lots of companies that where actually open to creating a native Linux version.
As much as Windows has annoyed us, some companies making software for it have probably been loosing patience with it for a while now too
Apparently to enable EAC on Linux requires a checkbox press. Unfortunately From Software didn't seem to do this with their latest game Elden Ring, so Linux gamers are having to play the game offline.
Update: As others have pointed out in the comments below, this was actually an Issue within Proton and not From Software. The fix requires the bleeding edge version of Proton and the game will then work online! It seems like the EAC support in Proton is still being worked on by Valve.
That's a dam shame too, other games FromSoft has made runs on Linux, but I will hold off getting Elden Ring until I see it running on Linux.
That is probably incorrect. Elden Ring received the "verified" compatibility rating which makes sure that the anticheat is working correctly on the deck. In other words, it already works perfectly.
Not a simple checkbox always, there's two EAC version, EOS EAC (Epic Online services, the one where it's just a checkbox) and "normal" EAC, most games use the normal one, the EOS version is mostly used on newer titles, EGS exclusives, if you wanna activate Linux support on the normal EAC version, you have to implement lots of stuff AFAIK (Source: Google "Warhammer dev EAC Proton"), Although seems like valve is working on a way to make it work on the normal version, the one that doesn't need to connect with Epic
@@solidsnek That's now fixed. Both have the option.
@@sabastianleisek396 It's fixed. It requires the bleeding edge version of Proton for online gameplay to work!
Hopefully they'll start to directly target SteamOS as a platform for future games and not just expect them to "just work" like magic the next time.
Avoiding some very Windows-dependent libraries, frameworks and APIs would be a very good idea but are they really gonna do it? Would it even be convenient for them?
Only time will tell, I guess.
They won't it's 20 years experience on windows compared to 0 on linux. Targetting steamos will include windows stuff at this point :p
The biggest 'Windows-dependent' things that devs might use are .Net and DirectX. .Net has had an open-source interpreter for a while now, and DirectX is being taken care of by projects like DXVK. I wouldn't be surprised to see more devs including Vulkan support in more and more modern titles to improve their cross-platform compatibility.
@@fuseteam They have a lot of experience w/ Unix on account of the fact PSP, PS3, PSV, PS4, PS4 Pro, & PS5 all ran FreeBSD.
As long as they don't start saying "Steam Deck version" and making you pay for the game twice
@@powerfulaura5166 that's not the same thing, saying "they have a lot of experience with ps*, so they have a lot of experience with unix" is like saying "most people use android, so most people have a lot of experience with linux"
I think main things the devs need to address, except of course crashes and bugs, is performance optimization and UI scaling especially texts.
I'm still hoping this will be so successful that devs will try to target it and even create a Linux version but that's unlikely especially if Proton does its job most of the time.
"developing"
more like
turn it on
install game
ok it works thank you very much for you [employee] coming to help out
Valve needs to keep the momentum. Updates to Proton. HL3, Portal 3, L4D3. Source 2. Steam Machine 2.0
The Deck is Steam Machine 2.0
Your PC can become Steam Machine 2.0 once SteamOS 3.0 is out
consoles are not profitable. powerful handhelds are a new market, so more decks make more sense than consoles
@@pleasurereport even the next gen consoles have flopped compared to the previous gens
This was a fun watch, was super happy to see Dan Paladin here. Harada was a joy as always too
If your coding is clean, and you don't use stupid libraries, your game will probably work.
DAMN!!!!! Even the switch and the old psvita they had many months to figure out how it game could run on the handheld. I think some ports from PC to The play-station and Xbox they still had to change a couple of the settings(game developers). I know when I get my Steam Deck now that future games should run amazing and so looking forward to this :)
Funny that Harada-San mentioned Phil Spencer, perhaps Xbox is more involved than we first thought. Never thought I'd see Microsoft encourage studios to support a competing operating system.
Then mycrosoft sells more gamepass subsrictions and games when they helpt valve whit the steam deck i qeeus...!
@@noudockeloen Valve mentioned they were willing to help Microsoft get gamepass on steam
That honestly a very great news!
And, man, I love the Namco Bandai dev. Being official and all that, and at the end he is so funny! :D
AAA companies still struggle though
They are too busy building cryptoscam and microtransactions into their stores
Appart from Bungie, who has anti-consumer policies and decided to insta-ban Linux users instead of effortlessly activating the Linux conpatible version of their anticheat, for free... What are you reffering to? AAA games are running on the machine, now, with none to minor issues, and it gets better everyday, without intervention from the game studios!
It just works xD daaamn, can't wait to get mine asap
does anyone remember Feral interactive ??
don't they port games to a platform of your choosing ?
BTW, does anyone know how to install the Unofficial_Patch for "Vampire the masquerade: Bloodlines" on linux ?
(I'm talking Debian/Ubuntu)
👍👍👍!
finally reactions that actually line up with how massive an achievement the steam deck actually is. I dont have anything against the switch, its fine for what it is. But digital foundry calling every port an 'impossible port' or miracle port when graphics are reduced to potato borderlands level. in contrast, to port something to the steam deck is automatic and can handle full PC/console graphics... now THATS a miracle port
your game works and its NOT a handheld experience...? 349 quid and the controllers arent cheap nintendo junk sticks? yes please. Since release of the deck the switch is officially in the vita category and I doubt their next switch iteration will beat it either. mainly for the fact that if steam do it correctly, all you will need for an upgrade to the steam deck is to buy the motherboard and replace it yourself, job done, hardware can be changed as long as it works with proton... and because its a PC, it will without any issues, you'll either have a smaller die size and battery savings or a completely new SoC which will more than likely dominate the switches hardware consistently...
this is where nintendos penny pinching on hardware bites them in the ass
literally I like the steam deck but just one question why the hell is so hard on making one simple account on the steam deck literally couldn’t even make it a bit easier way to make a account on the steam deck because I haven’t even access the dawn menu because haven’t passed from making an stupid account on the steam deck
Still not understand very well...
Is game devs not making any change on their game builds , they only adjusting in - game graphics settings for optimizing on steam deck ?
That's all ?
I mean , what's the mean of development for steam deck then ? xd
It's just optimizing the in - game graphics settings for handheld console , right ?
Don't develop for steam deck except making games run at 50 to 60fps with medium settings.
I'm sick of hearing about it!
@Mikki W.L Steam Deck Enthusiast it's a tease. It's in my feeds, I cannot avoid it. It's not available to buy, only to look at.
It's like a cookie jar on a counter that I cannot reach.
Wait wait wait.
@@kewlztertc5386 purrr
@@kewlztertc5386 I'm a fan of the content since I was pretty sure it was going to be a disappointment.
O it's only q2. You'll be in hospice by the holidays....
Steam Deck < PSP
Seam deck psp emulation
hahahah thats so funny **plays every psp game free on my steamdeck**
Rip games from psp and emulate on SD higher res and fps
Lmao, stop living in the past
The plastic shielded disk which broke for no reason ?
Yeah, an handheld with disk game, best idea ever.
No seriously, it was good, but common, it was far from perfect, even back in time when I had one, I felt that way.