The Steam Deck changed us forever.
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 3. 06. 2024
- A Linux gaming crossover! Four passionate Linux content creators (@gamingonlinux, @gardiner_bryant, and @TheLinuxEXP) assemble to have an unfiltered chat about Valve's Steam Deck. For authenticity, this entire video was hosted, recorded, + edited on Jason's Steam Deck!
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Chapters:
00:00:00 Time flies when Steam Decking
00:02:19 Meet the Dream Team
00:09:51 Fate of Steam Machines
00:16:10 The Steam Deck Fan
00:21:17 Valve's Messaging: Good or Bad?
00:37:15 Elden Ring & The Driver Dilemma
00:41:45 Let's go bug hunting!
00:49:38 Taking control
00:53:03 Game performance examples
00:55:55 Will Deck REALLY help Linux gaming?
00:59:35 Steam Deck LAN Party?
01:02:51 Profile Switching
01:06:04 Dongle dilemmas
01:11:53 Is Deck a good PC for power users?
01:17:05 Proton vs Native Linux games
01:25:47 Nintendo Switch vs Steam Deck
01:30:42 Steam Deck 2
01:38:05 Epic Games vs Steam Deck
01:41:37 Will we still BUY one?
01:43:38 Will Jason make more content?
01:45:15 Is Valve's 30% justified?
01:52:06 Jason tries to fry his Deck
01:55:06 What surprised us most?
#SteamDeck #Valve #Linux - VÄda a technologie
YEP, I participated in the Discord video call, recorded on OBS, edited with Kdenlive, and did all the various production stuff for this video on my Steam Deck!
That's so awesome what the deck is capable of! At the beginning you said that you expect people to tell you to already shut up about the deck but I and I guess many others are still so excited I am watching so many videos considering the steam deck be it the pre steam deck release videos or the teardown or even all the steam deck guides from Liam and Gardiner etc. And I am so excited about getting my deck in q3
Oh and Kdenlive took 6.5 hours to render it đ€Ł
@@LinuxForEveryone glad your not compiling Gentoo on the steam deck hehe
@@LinuxForEveryone i mean it doesn't really matter does it? Just start rendering before you go to sleep and should be fine. đ
Wish AMD would fix opencl so Nvidia wasn't the only option for Davinci Resolve.
That talk was so fun! Looking forward to doing that more often!
Yes it was, thanks for being part of this Nick!
Usually I see a 28 minute video and think, do I have the energy? Here I saw a 2 hour video, though hell yeah and treated it like a podcast!
We need to do this again soon
Was an awesome chat, thanks for inviting me along.
ANYTIME dude. Let's do it again.
@@LinuxForEveryone Hell to the yeaaaah
@@gamingonlinux i'm glad i found someone who covered Linux native games before proton, thanks for covering Endless Sky! seeing that on your website brings me great joy
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate that Valve has finally learned to count to 3 with SteamOS? This might be opening the flood gates...
holy shi..
I'm loving how much people are talking about the steam deck. The more hype, the more support! This kind of content really makes waiting for Q3 a lot easier :)
I'm glad we could help in some small way. I'll be completely honest, I would probably flip having to wait until Q3. I admire your patience.
@@LinuxForEveryone I ordered July 17th, and I'm surprised how far back waiting a single day after the announcement put me! I'm just glad I'm not stuck in "After Q3"
â@@Redoxeon better july 17 than 22
i saw it on day one why did i wait so long to place an order
@@cardboardturtle5470 oof! yeah I'm thanking my lucky stars I'm where I'm at
@@LinuxForEveryone I'm in a region where I can't even preorder yet. I just keep telling myself that it's giving Valve time to make it even better by the time I'm able to order one.
Thank-you for taking the time and effort for this great discussion. Would love to listen to this type of extended, wide-open discussion every 2-4 weeks if you can swing it! Great tips come out of this format.
Glad you enjoyed it! We all agree we'd like to get together again.
Gaming content we didn't know we needed
this was awesome - the four horsemen of linux gaming :D
I like that...
Please keep doing this every now and then, itâs a ridiculously cozy and wholesome format somehow.
Thanks, we all want to!
Oh, look, my entire internet in one window.
Now you can open another window and get more done. We love enabling the multitasker in people. Or something. I should get some sleep. Thanks for watching!
Please someone of you guys try to use btrfs on steamdeck SD card. On Reddit some guy try and get slower installation times, but best load times and around 40 % more storage! This will be an amazing video! Pleaseee
This makes sense. Btrfs allows you to dedupe data, compress it, and IIRC it also allows to choose the block size per folder.
The compression, in particular, is useful because it's usually light enough on the CPU that there is not a bottleneck. Rather, it makes loading times shorter because you don't need to read as much data from the SD card.
Second, block size matters. Smaller block sizes are useful for data that will go only through small writes and random reads. However, they use more storage; on a filesystem usually the metadata is stored per block. It's kinda small compared to the block itself but it quickly takes up a lot of space on large files, and also makes read times longer because of the metadata. Videogames without random writes and reads and long load times benefit from a larger block size.
'Physically disconnect from your work environment'~ YES this is why I need it đą
Sanity is everything!
Seeing how excited you all are about this thing is really getting me hyped!
When Valve announced it would be giving Debian developers keys I ditched windows in a heartbeat and never dual booted again. On the same machine since 2013 running Debian testing and the work that has gone in to wine & Proton & DXVK has moved Linux years ahead. I saw my PC transform over time from not being able to run nothing to running very buggy with low FPS to running smoothly with butter smooth FPS. It took some time but they did it. Made Linux into a viable alternative for everyday computing. Cheers !
Great chat. I was going to watch just 30mins and maybe skim through the vid, but I'm almost done watching it all. đ
There have been 3 points in history that have changed gaming for me... 3 personal gaming revolutions.
1) The first time I owned a console, the Master System, from having to load on a tape deck, to instant gratification, was quite a leap forward.
2) Discovering LAN gaming on Quake and Unreal Tournament... Multiplayer, with 5 friends, and without a split screen in sight!!! These LAN party days were of course the precursor to online play (Which incidentally, already existed in UT99, but was unplayable on UK internet connections at the time.)
and 3) The steam deck. For the first time ever, I feel like I am able to play even the latest releases wherever I want to play them. I've had most handheld consoles, right back to the Game Boy, even a game gear, but they've always felt a generation or two behind my main system. That isn't the case with the Deck... I'm playing Elden Ring every night... Frickin Elden Ring man!!
I can't get enough of the Deck, and I can't stop consuming all of your content on it either... (I hadn't heard of Phawx before the deck, now he's like a daily habbit, haha) Thank you and Keep it up. (Especially the simple no nonsense guides for us none Linux folk! It's because of these guides, and my faith in Valve, that I haven't even considered installing windows, at least until 'Dual Boot' is fully supported.)
I experienced the whole video game history from pong to triple A today - and even owning a RTX 3090 and a Varjo Aero I swear: since the Commodore 64 came out August 1982 I never had this excitement since 40 years, only the N64 with putting Mario from 2D to 3D was a little milestone on thisnway! I freaking love my Steam Deck 512 GB!đđź
26:38: On Steam on Windows, you can install games even when your PC doesn't support the minimum hardware requirements. Why should it be any different on Deck? (Although maybe it should be, as Liam mentioned.)
I'm with Gardener. "Steam without compromises", fine. You can access desktop, BPM, and Deck UI. Especially with Deck UI running multiple apps, that is uncompromised. But as soon as you use the phrase "entire library" anywhere, there's a problem.
Loving the collab, and I hope you four can get together again sometime!
What an interesting array of topics you have covered, really missed listening to your guys' thoughts. I only wish Jason's camera didn't flicker that much with the green light, hope it's fixed soon and that Linux as a whole has fewer problems when trying to record video in the future.
you guys NEED to do this again. watched the whole 2 hrs and can`t wait for another sit down like this!
when they were talking about the issues with the "steam without compromises" at about 25:00 I think they missed that games not supporting linux is not valve's fault. Valve has shown that they will help any company set up any game to run through proton. At this point any game that does not run on deck AT ALL is due to THE DEVELOPER being anti-consumer and REFUSING verification. IMO, valve should allow refunds for any game that either does not have proton support or loses proton support.
Great video! Iâm surprised at how different the experience has been for multiple reviews. Itâs like everyone working together to bug test for the future launch. Valve has a good community that cares.
Yea, this a good listen while doing some work.
Great set!
Thanks for listening!
On the topic of the driver level game fixes there's also the aspect of making old games run better/or fix them. For example the shadows in The Sims 2 broke with driver updates a few years ago. So the shadows of sims are just black rectangles. On windows you have to download a mod to fix that. DXVK on the other hand incorporated a game specific fix that makes shadows render correct again.
26:25 - "Valve should not allow the installation of a game it knows is unsupported" - Maybe this is just a word choice thing, but as stated I hard disagree.
I've brought this up in Discord, but I have multiple games in my library that I KNOW for a fact work perfectly well using Proton, are not demanding enough on hardware to stress the Deck, and yet are listed as Unsupported from Valve's verification process. Of course it's possible they managed to break something such that the Deck software can't handle many games that base Arch can, but I really doubt that's the case.
*Maybe* disallow by default with an easy setting to turn it back on, but honestly I don't think that would accomplish much.
Edit: Liam got there
I see how someone could take issue with the word choice, and I admit that's a LOT for Valve to keep track of. I'm specifically thinking of games like Destiny 2 in that scenario. Where it's just flat out not possible.
@@LinuxForEveryone Okay, that makes sense then. As Liam said, you have to separate unsupported from absolutely will not work. If a game is known to be absolutely broken for whatever reason, then sure. Just when I hear unsupported in the Steam Deck context, I'm thinking Valve's compatibility testing category.
Too be fair I do think Valve should put maybe a warning message of âThis game is unsupported are you sure you want to installâ. Mind you I donât have a deck so I donât know how clear it is if you try to play an unsupported title, just thought this would be the simplest solution.
My tip for using Gyro (Steam Controller and/or Deck) is that use right touchpad / thumbstick only for horizontal movements. Squeeze all (or most) vertical inputs.
Right, the messaging could be improved.
First introduce a gold bordered green check-mark that signifies a commitmit from the developer/publisher to test/release against the valve linux runtime, or a specific version of proton. These just run normally
The green check mark games allow install and play, but have a proton logo/watermark on play button, and launch a proton dialogue blurb on first launch of the month/quarter.
Then Yellow checkmark allows install, but bring up a dialogue that mentions this game requires a compatibility layer, this game is either untested or has minor issues. The game launcher should also mention the compatibility layer, but not on every launch, say just the first launch in a week.
The Red X. Give a dialogue appropriate to that, and warn about compatibility on every launch.
Also allow a steam deck filter on protonDB so you that reports from the steam deck get boosted when you select the filter, or visit protonDB from the steam deck.
Completely agree with this.
The Deck will be my first gaming pc, being a graphic designer I have always been using a Mac and games are left to others.
Loved the show, I just ordered my steam deck. Starting looking for video on it after I ordered. I was already assuming Destiny works on it. Guess I have to wait and hope it gets verified one day.
i'm looking forward to videos about the Deck as an everyday experience, people playing games they like that might be unique to them and a niche community and what that experience is like. The reviews were fun and exciting and covered that it wasn't a let down. Just wanna see some channels who use it a lot.
I have 1,500 games on steam... Something will run on my steamdeck.. I am so excited. To get my deck... Please... Be sooner...
You guys should totally do this again. đ
Agreed.
What if the Steam Deck 2 had a Thunderbolt port and came out at the same time as (or a couple years before) a dock with a cutting edge, desktop class eGPU inside it? That'd be one way to break into the full size console space and better differentiate from the switch while sticking to a handheld-first strategy.
I just want the next generation of Steam Deck comes with Arm architecture.
Oh yeah... You're using the deck for the call! Which service are you using for the video call? (I'm watching, so the answer might come up in a sec)
I think it does, but just in case we're using Discord.
Looks great besides the camera glitches. I need to check if he explains his setup with deck.
@@LinuxForEveryone what happened at 1:38:00 ? I could hear the fan after the video came back.
That was fun! (watched the whole thing) You guys should totally do that again.
Great video lads, power collab! Gaming On The Linux Experiment For Everyone :)
Now make sure to book a follow up video in 6-9 months, maybe as an early Xmas present?
Challenge accepted. But maybe sooner!
@@LinuxForEveryone Such a tease... we await future video collabs with bated breath!
The random loss of functional gamepad controls is a REAL concern, and given the formfactor of the device it is a SERIOUS concern. There are countless titles I have to disable steam input on in order to get controller to work for games running in proton. This is already a bad thing considering how integral steam input is to the steamdeck, but what's worse is that because games aren't officially supporting linux or proton or steamdeck, there is a disconnect between valve and the studios. Which in turn means that there WILL be (and in fact already are) games that randomly stop working with controller.
One game that I have experienced this with which highly frustrates me is "Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos" which is a top down adventure game very similar to Zelda: Link to the past. This game used to work in proton with controller for me, and then one day it didn't. No amount of messing with steam input fixed it, no amount of switching proton versions fixed it; I uninstalled and reinstalled multiple sources of steam, and NOTHING could get controller to work again. So now I have this amazing classic Zelda like game, that I have over 10 hours in, that will only reliably work with mouse and keyboard. Now imagine that experience on the deck. Valve needs address that and they need to do it literally as soon as possible.
I think that Hardware wise, Valve is staying with the Deck. BUT, they will try to get into the home entertainment market by launching SteamOS for any PC. A lot of HTPCs will start appearing with the enthusiasts and probably a resurgence of the Steam Machines will start, but not as a massive console, but as licensing or OEM contracts.
Just bc of Steam Deck I moved to Linux (also bc Linus video). Now I am after Q3 ... yes.. Destiny 2 đȘ have not played it since. I am surprise how much effort they made for Proton. Just great. Many games on Linux run better. I mean better. It is amazing. I love it. Great video :-)
If a game has a "not supported" status because of "easy anticheat" or "battleeye", I think the install button should prompt up a dialog saying: the game doesnt run because of... and then: would you like to send an email to the developer asking for support?
That would send developers a good number of people trying to use them and may push them to check the anti cheat validation
Great idea!
56:30
You all seem to be missing one very important fact: he is on nvidia
Man I loved this podcast/show pretty nice job guys
Glad you enjoyed it David!
Would be really cool to have a podcast version of this kind of videos âșïž
Complete with chapters: www.linux4everyone.com/57-steam-deck-dream-team
@@LinuxForEveryone awesome đ I will listen to that ! I looked in the description and I didn't see it đ
I think before a steam deck 2 or a console they'll do a revision of the current deck that's possibly slimmer or like Jason said, with an OLED screen
I would love to have the ability to lock my steam deck, knowing that there is that 1% chance that I end up leaving my deck somewhere and for it to get stolen and then that said robber can play my library, I find ridiculous... They should think about these sorts of situations, maybe even a kill switch or something on my profile that I can put my PW in and brick the system. Has anyone else had concerns about this? & do you think that they will implement security on the deck in the future?
When it comes to installing games that do not work, they should still let people, but have it that you need to jump through a couple of hoops to be able to do so. That way if someone wants to tinker on thier own to try get something to work, they can. But will clearly understand that it isn't working when they try to put it on. Many have tinkered with other titles, from the comments I've seen in the past on Protondb. And also things done on Lutris.
Some of the Protondb the stuff is said to work, but Valve too seems to be a little behind in that regard. I guess since it has to be approved on thier side. And because of the tinkering by users, it is kind of cutting edge of what works. I actually check protondb first before seeing if Valve has it on it's approved list.
As for Lan parties back in the day, we used to have them with our cousins and some of thier friends a lot, and because our house and thiers the corners of the yards touched each other, we even and a network between the houses, that my dad put in for us :-) It was great fun. Our 3 main games we used to play back then were, Quake arena 3, Unreal tournement and Half-life.
When it comes to the screen, I'm not into the whole 'We want OLED' group. As someone that only has a few coins to rub together. OLED is a no no with the burn in issues. I cannot afford to keep replacing items with OLED issues. The tech as a whole still has not gotten passed that issue. Someone on a Switch with a OLED screen did a crazy amount of hours, think like over 3 000 before he got burn in. But the possible longevity of the deck, even if you don't get to play the latest games down the road. It will be a long time before it is no longer playable. I would want what ever hardware I use to still be usable and not be thrown away, because the screen is unusable.
About the steam deck 2 : Gabe said in a recent interview that they have plans for a more powerful version of the steam deck which will be able to run VR games in a year from now, so I guess we will see a new steam deck in less than 2 years. Wont be something huge but a steam deck with better specs I would guess
You have brain damage if you think there will be a new steam deck in a year let alone everything else you said lol omg you just keep waiting on that new steam deck buddy
I heard that the fan noise is a known driver issue that they are working on fixing
I think the Vita was the last truly silent modernish handheld console.
I'm really into gaming and the Steam Deck seems to be interesting, but sadly I can't play it, as I am handicapped one-sided and thus I learned to use a controller with one hand, when I was really young, with the SNES. This wouldn't work with the Deck, as I would cover up the screen with my hand. This was already a problem with the 3DS.
I hope they will make a SteamOS console.
@Linux For Everyone 1:38:04 to 1:42:54 - Screen goes and stays black, for that entire period. Audio still works fine though.
sorry about that. Not sure why that happened, but after 6.5 hours rendering this on the Steam Deck, I didn't want to try again! haha
nice work guys
I want a steam deck so bad but I already ordered a pro1x so I don't have the money. I can't wait for that phone to come in tho
Have they still not shipped the Pro1x?
Quoting Pierre-Loup Griffais: "We handle non-working games as a bug"
Not true, Horizon Zero Dawn has been rated as verified yet it crashes, same as Vampire Survivors. Those should be rated unsupported.
Also, the quote was from Lawrence Yang and goes "If it doesn't work we see that as a bug and we want to fix it"
Battery life could also depend on a smaller architecture. The one in the steam deck I think is 7 nano meters but AMD is already playing around with 5nm so that could give it better performance and better battery life
Best parts of steam deck. You have the game on PC... you have it on Deck. You buy game for Deck... you have it on PC! I so wana see what "Glorious Eggroll" manages to do with proton and games on deck :D
Valve needs to send him a Deck!
Great video everyone
i love you guys im follow and using linux for 10 years, sadly i live in Argentina but i have people in USA that buy me one Deck and they shipping me, still after Q2 but im so hype
Hype train coming into the station CHOO CHOOOOOO
Brilliant
Yes 1000% local lan wifi and local steam chat , on a plane playing a co op game will be amazing , view local games by checking wifi
They need to make this happen!
@@LinuxForEveryone I thought alot in to it , bluetooth beacon so show steam I'd so if you already friends on steam online locally you can host local ad hoc for 2 or more people if not in a friends list they need a pin to join group to stop random joining in public event then u can add friends offline so when ur online you can keep in contact
Just a thought about the file transfer discussion: Valve could really make this easy by allowing the users to toggle a samba share with the toggle of a setting.
For Steam Deck 2 I think smaller bezels would be nice. But it would also be nice to get a Steam Deck 1âŠ
Maybe games should get a yellow exclamation mark if a game has updated after the being verified saying there maybe be issues because of the update.
I can't speak for Liam's experiences, but Cyberpunk is working perfectly fine for me on Pop! OS. Granted my PC is pretty beefy, maybe it's because I'm running RDNA2 like the deck?
CPU: 5950X
GPU: 6800XT
RAM: 32GB
Related to the daily driver thing: How to get docker work without touching the immutable root system?
This is a huge step for Linux but you know I'm scare the future Monopoly of Valve somehow
Yeah epic games and gog need to step up with their Linux support to give valve some competition there. But I mean valve helps the development of wine and their dev kit is open source and they use stuff like kde, flatpak and arch Linux so they don't use much proprietary stuff and others are free to use SteamOS for other devices so I'm not that concerned as of now. Maybe in the future but I guess we would see some warning signs before things get serious
Especially what Liam says at the segment where its about if Linux in gaming in general will benefit (starts 55:53) is really important as to why I trust steam so much. Except for the client (and their games of course... Duh) basically everything is open source
I've gotten Burnout Paradise Remastered almost playable on Manjaro but I just need to set the launch command "-skipvideos" inside of the Origin launcher but there seems to be no way to do that if you're launching through Steam. As soon as the Burnout exe closes, Origin closes and you can only set advanced launch options when the exe isn't open. I'd like to run the remaster but I'll do the Ultimate Box if nothing else works, just not an answer for people who didn't pick up the Ultimate Box when it was for sale.
I believe there's going to be a VR thing before the Steam Deck 2 :)
55:30 That's a bit surprising that Cyberpunk isn't running well. My 1660 Ti gets about 40fps on Ultra, which is still lower than the about 60fps I got on Windows. But with FSR that's closer to 50-55fps.
I have tried Heroic Games Launcher today and two of the GOG Games I tried didn't work with it. đ
Maybe have a message togle on those that "will not work like Destiny2" but not prevent installation.
43:53 LOL
Vampire survivor, just start it with gamemoderun to remove the lag (also the game tend to lag the same on windows)
Edit: though Liam still have a point, having to use an external program to start the game, is a deal breaker for "verified"
That's apex for you its the exact same on windows when the game is loading shader's for some reason
the four horsemen of linux gaming
Vampire Survivors can be pretty CPU intensive @25 mins. due to the amount of enemy instances being loaded in. I know my desktop i5 6400 kinda hitches (still playable but definitely noticeable) around that timestamp, too.
I believe they said they're moving to a new engine and maybe that will fix it. The lag thing definitely is not Steam Deck exclusive or because of the hardware, it's just how the game was built. The question here was more if Valve should've granted them the rating that they have if the experience is still unplayable.
Oh hey kdeconnect! Valve should ship kdeconnect!
I know this video is fairly old in the internet grand scheme of things.. and I know as for me actually playing games with linux the only thing that forced me to switch back to windows (and that's with the fact I was rocking an nvidia gpu) was 1 game.. story of seasons pioneers of Oliver town.. my wife complained about it not launching. and the steam deck hitting japan, makes me happy about the future for stuff like that.. p.s. I am not a huge online multiplayer fan.. so was able to go 4 or 5 months with just linux granted I am use to debian so I was already in a rough distro for performance.. sorry ranting. but yes Year of Linux because I am a foss guy at heart
I want a stem deck because it is the sequel to the Nokia n900
I can't see valve making another console box, where you plug it into your TV and it ships with a controller, if they did they would have to do it all themselves because no oems say Alienware are going to partner with them for the second time
We already determined that the steam machine was a failure.
No matter how much I want a steam controller 2
I think it will be like the steamLink, it will just be software you can install.
If they can convince capitalism that it'd be a success they can get everyone to join.
That is to say, "you first". Valve has to do it first and show these companies that there is a future for the concept.
Me too , santa klaus is for real ...
Does the hardware have mainline linux support? If so, does manjaro work? If not, manjaro should do a release.
Valve added this for kernel 5.18
@@LinuxForEveryone Cool. It's coming up soon. I think they are also changing the c language version for 5.18. Because of that, I expect it to be a buggy kernel. I'll wait a few months. I don't even have the steam deck yet anyway.
Regarding steamos on other computers.
I know gamescope doesn't work on Nvidia, the Nvidia driver is missing an important vulkan extension.
I hope for steam deck 2 we get a bigger battery and an 8 core APU for better performance and more game support considering the current gen consoles have 8 cores.
let's just get these out first...
@@MoeFokah yeah I agree.
More driver support on linux?
I would assume the Gamescope is a fork of Mangohud? correct, don't have a steamdeck yet.
Gamescope is Valve's visual compositor that runs on top of Wayland. MangoHUD is simply a performance overlay.
who's. Am so jealous!
"your entire steam library show up just like any other pc"
kinda true, if an old game dont work anymore on newer versions of windows, it still show on up on your steam library.
so, all your games show that dont means they will work...
@Gaming on Linux - Vampire Survivors is a great game however, it is not optimized very well. Even on my desktop computer the last 5-10 minutes left in a match the frame-rate tanks horribly (sub 10fps).
Steam machine was released in 2014 the controller was November 2015
Yeah Epic Games is very Anti-consumer because of the Timed exclusives for PC games and hell even Tim Sweeney said some negative things about PC gaming. So I pretty much agree what has been said in this conversation about Valve really earning their 30% cut. Also that 30% cut for digital sales is industry wide the big 3 Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo get a 30% cut for digital sales for console games. Epic Games fails to realize what Valve actually does in terms of services they offer devs. Also Epic's Store website looks like absolute garbage compared to Steam. I don't see Epic ever becoming popular if they continue down their anti-consumer route of offering timed exclusives on PC games. They need to cut that kind of crap out on top of really improving their launcher tenfold. With a Steam Deck 2 I would like to see a higher core count APU like 6c/12t would be a sweet spot on top of a better battery.
Steam is just so much better
1:40:00 RIP the gaben Deck said I am out it's too long
it came back to life @1:43:00 but that fan is running full tilt.
well thats one way to do a dong(le) comparison
41:27 windows updating is the least of your problems.
the problem is: windows is updating and killing my battery i hope the battery dont end before the update, and i hope there is still enough batery left after the update to play a bit.
I disagree with the point that Valve shouldn't allow the installation of games that are unsupported. Granted, I am not done watching the video yet, and I know there is a large discussion here at hand, but with the way the the software can be updated by both Valve to support games and game devs to add in features, like EAC/Battle eye support, I definitely don't think they should keep you from installing something because "their records indicate that *game* does not work on the Steam Deck". Halo MCC is a perfect example of this. My understanding is that you can play the single player campaign on the Deck, I have run them on my Linux machine, but you can't get into the multiplayer lobbies. That is a situational thing, and the situation could change in an instant with the devs adding in the support. If I were a game dev, I wouldn't want to wait on Valve verification to "turn on" my game.
I use Arch BTW
About valve and the feedback, i have encountered that the support page trough steam is awful, or they dont read what i wrote or they are just stupid, but the git page issues are reviewed by serious people
Talking about the fan, it's the pitch that's problematic. It's worse than the PS4 overall and the Switch in Splatoon 2. A "no fan" mode is dangerous ~ we definitely don't want that.