These 5 Stars should be on the standard banner | Ask Zajef #10
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0:00 Intro
0:21 How much Tighnari applies Dendro?
0:44 Is Slingshot the best F2P for Tighnari?
1:37 Electro teams for Salad
2:32 Yelan or Xingqiu for Dendro?
6:25 Cyno as battery for Beidou
9:26 Is the new gacha sword BiS for Kazuha?
13:03 State of Geo
17:24 Raiden on standard banner?
18:32 Outro - Hry
Small clarification for Eula : HYV would generally not want constellations on 5 stars to be too good, but there's such an incredibly small portion of F2P or low budget players that reach C6 on standard 5 stars that I don't think a really good C6 would NECESSARILY be that much of an issue. Also kinda didn't think about it that much, she might not be the best choice. Oh well
I have c4 Jean, c2 Mona, c2 diluc, and at least 1 copy of every standard banner 5*. I bought welkin like 3 times during the early days of the game. I think it's completely likely to c6 a standard banner 5*. Eula definitely shouldn't be a standard banner character. might as well throw ganyu, yoimiya, zhongli, etc in it at that point. You know, because those characters aren't worth pulling on either according to "theorycrafters", right?
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@@jgould30 I started playing maybe 4 months after the game launched. Only money spent was on one welkin. I have C0 Qiqi, C0 Mona, C0 Jean, C1 Keqing, C1 Diluc. I believe I'll get C6 on one of them one day, but that day isn't coming for a long time.
honestly if you need C6 to get a GOOD Eula, then I don't see it being an issue
@@jgould30 Sounds like you've never spoken to a theorycrafter and you're making up a guy to get angry at tbh
the dev who swapped Xiao and Albedo's c4 probably thought it was funny
Man, Imagine
Xiao c4 cracked wdym
Lmao I just realized
Oh I'm sure they had a good laugh out of it
No cuz why did they do that
I think albedo is just a victim of early game constellations, I don’t believe hoyo were as comfortable as they are now with the design of that system. So some characters get dumpster fires as constellations because they think they’ll be too strong with better ones. (Doesn’t change the fact albedo should be a standard geo though lol)
yeah, venti, zhongli, childe all of them have underwhelming cons, although they are too good for standard banner tbh
@@nd6096 i think childe is okay for standard banner
@@randangbalado childe is more meta relevant than both venti and zhongli
@@nd6096 and xiangling is a free meta character so? putting a meta 5 star with no broken constellations in standard seems fair
@@nd6096 it’s iffy cuz he’s a main dps that’s not dogshit. there’s no limited 5 star that’s just childe but better, the way hutao is better diluc and raiden is better keqing (and probably al haitham will be better tighnari).
I still think mihoyo accidentally swap albedo and xiao's C4 constellation lol
imagine a f2p getting c6 eula on the standard banner then starts doing 1 million with the fish
More like 3M. My Eula already does 505K per ult at C0.
@@itsmrdante6274 In big pp situations? Yes. In normal situations? 250k average.
And then again, you won't have whale supports or whale units to get more stacks. So, no.
@@FirstNigerianprince My C0 Eula does consistent 400k average in Abyss. Though I have SoBP on her.
@@FirstNigerianprince realistically you can get 350k in Abyss with a well invested Eula ngl
I'd reckon it's fine with characters like Klee and Albedo but Eula will be absolutely insane with multiple constellations.
For a long time now I've thought that Albedo should be a permanent banner 5*. Not a DPS, easy to learn and use, f2p friendly, one of the most important characters lore-wise, the character with the most dialogue in the game (or was at least, don't know if that's still true after the last few events). Having him as a limited banner character just hurts his usage, even more so now that the pyro-hydro-double geo teams have faded away and geo usually going for triple geo and not just mono geo (although I guess a lot of people prefer mono geo unga bunga).
I think the one of the main requirements for being on the standard banner has to be that the unit cannot scale too well with constellations, which is not the case at all for Eula. People who have been playing for a time and aren't insanely lucky are bound to have cons of the standard banner 5*s, and Mihoyo wants you to pull for the new characters and not have a broken high constellation Eula.
What about jean then? her cons are pretty damn good as much as i hate her
@@nightwingdark8785 Jean's cons aren't remotely comparable to Eula's.
@@nightwingdark8785 not really imo
C1 is mostly useless on a team with good rotations. You'd only use it for CC, but there are better anemo characters for that and non-anemo healers exist
C2, like any ATK speed buffs, generally doesn't do a ton outside of make some things easier or getting another hit or 2 with fast enough attackers. "Pretty damn good" is not what I'd use to describe it lol
C4 is only good for anemo DPSes (and only Xiao is really decent there)
C6 is purely defensive. Cool but not that good for what this game is lol. And, she already heals a lot. This means the constellation has lower impact even if you needed defense instead of pure DPS. Not to mention Beidou and Xingqiu offer the same thing at C0
And with C1, C3, C4, C5, Jean doesn't do THAT much damage. More similar to Zhongli except her element and healing actually makes her burst more useful (and not just a DPS loss in many scenarios) than his burst. You don't use her kit for her personal damage, the higher multipliers just help it to not be dogshit
All this is completely incomparable to a single constellation that basically guarantees you can delete any nonshielded enemy in one hit lol
This entire comment section is why the standard banner is a fat L imo. This comment makes a good argument for why Hoyoverse should get rid of it and replace it with previous patch banners.
I am of the opposite opinion. Firstly because a lot of people wouldn't want to play Eula anyway due to her playstyle and ''element''. Secondly because if the Standard banner which is shit, suddenly had a lil more appeal it would be a win-win situation. On top of this, the amount of time and luck required to get multiple Eula const to start scaling her into top tier territory is so high, we may have stopped playing by then; without considering you would still want/need a Song of Brokeback mountain to go along.
As far as Albedo's constellations go, the thing to keep in mind is that he's an earlier designed character. That has two implications. First, Hoyoverse hadn't adjusted the power level goal of five stars yet, hence why he's mostly used because he's the second best off-field geo character in the eyes of most players. And second, his constellations will be more miss than hit, and not ramp up his power nearly as much as newer five stars. So it isn't that they plan to put him there, but rather, that he was designed at a time when the design parameters were different. If they do add him, though, then they need to give him a good, accessible, four star weapon, rather than this trend of making him a good user of limited event weapons. Well, that or they need to start re-running friggin' events already. Sure, Harbinger is a good weapon for him, but he should have a defense%, 4 star, standard banner or craftable weapon option. That said, I do think he'd be a good choice. He's Mondstadt, so his materials are accessible at low AR. He adds a geo to the mix. He fits in easily in most teams, just for his off-field damage potential, so a newer player will likely get far more use out of him that the likes of Mona.
As far as Geo as an element goes, I think it is screwed over for now. Gorou's design is a mistake. Now you need both defense and geo to be worth using. And that's doubled down with the Husk set, which, again, is geo and defense. And this adds a further issue that now you want multiple characters chasing the same stats, on the same set. And, of course, there's Crystalize being rather lackluster as far as a reaction goes. Wouldn't mind them doing a little something to help it. Say, have it do more damage to shields based on your EM, just go give EM a tad bit more value to geo and to make the idea of geo as a "decent against all shield elements" a bit more basis in reality.
that’s literally what u want from standard 5 stars though? a big boost in ur early game but dmg that falls off for late game? he’s great until u actually need dps, at which point good luck finding a slot for him if u didn’t pull for zhongli/itto.
the easiest way to buff geo would be to make it shred elemental shields. monogeo is like physical in the sense that u can’t run it into abyss mages/heralds, but geo doesn’t have the advantage of an entire class of enemies with lowered resistances.
one thing i think hyv has gotta add is options for alternate scaling characters. (4* hp/def polearm/sword/bow). Black tassel is better on zhongli than his signature it’s so doomed man
Geo is like a reverse Midas touch. It reacts with every element and turns it into shit.
I don’t necessarily think Gorou’s design was a mistake. Is it kinda a bad look to give Geo DMG Bonus at c6? Yeah, because it locks other elements out of the DEF% scaling gimmick, since Gorou is very clearly not intended for anyone outside of Noelle Itto and similar DPS. But there are many arti sets where you need multiple sets on multiple characters. There have been since the literal beginning of the game. Pretty much every Anemo has to wear Viri, every burst support wears Noblesse or later, Emblem.
But yea Hyv needs to add event reruns where Albedo gets a permanently available signature weapon.
Well i think Geo should break shield more effective against different elements shield because they can't work well with others elements so nothing wrong if they can eat more elements aura to break shield more effectively
the sad fate of geo elem. a mistake of a non reactive elem in a game full of elemental shields and armor.
crystallize reaction should have d.o.t. and the shield strength should be based on elemental gauge rather than hitpoints. Isnt that why archaic petra have 4pc effect? Then elemental mastery wouldnt be so trash on geo chara. And that makes even more sense for albedo Q giving 125 EM buff.
Ive used a geo team on every abyss since itto came out and some geo construct gimmicks with zhongli traveler before that and I can say that is already one of its perks. Regardless of what they throw geo can break it. The hydro abyss herald was the only issue but that one is just stupid in general and DEMANDS cryo
@@hellfire6714 it's not good enough. Also in geo team, Albedo and Gorou is staple. There is no reason to replace them for something else. Also geo constructs are annoying because it block your move and you can accidentally climb on it.
@@hellfire6714 the only way I've seen it done is a person managed to keep it in zhongli pillar radius, without it breaking the pillar.
Which is more rng than skill
@@hellfire6714 I'm also a Noelle main and i don't even bother to put Zhongli in my team because i have 3 better choice for that position to use: Yun Jin because she buff your normal attack significantly and generate some geo particles with her E; Yelan because she buffed your geo damage by a lot, deal off-field damage and generate crystal consistently; Raiden because she help recharge the team, deal additional off-field damage and with her E and generate crystal consistently
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The only real problem with Yoimiya(well really any Inazuma character) being on standard banner is that you can’t access Inazuma until getting to that point in the archon quests. That means Yoimiya’s ascension materials would be completely unobtainable for a new player who pulls her on standard banner for quite a while.
They wouldn't be able to be added to the regular standard banner anyway. It would have to be a new one if it ever happens. Materials (Naku weed, Pyro Hypostasis drops) could be added to a trading post in Mondstadt or Liyue or to the star dust shop.
Weekly boss drops like the ones from Signora and Raiden are not needed until AR 40+ and by then they should have Inazuma unlocked anyway.
Monsters like Specters and the Riftwolves have already been added to Sumeru/Mondstadt.
Also, worth noting that Inazuma four stars have the same issues, and are on the standard banner. So just because it would be a poor design choice from a player perspective, doesn't mean that Hoyoverse wouldn't do it.
The better way to handle it, though, would be like FGO does. And yeah, that's weird saying that anyone should copy any part of FGO's gacha system. But basically, this is one aspect they got right. They add characters to their standard banner as your story progresses. So that would mean that while you aren't in Inazuma, you can't get Yoimiya, but once you are, perhaps once you've finished the main story quest, then she's available through the standard banner. Which is really what they should have done with the Inazuma four stars, as far as the weapon and standard banners are concerned.
It's only a problem for Inazuma because it's locked by archon quest at AR30
You can go to sumeru at AR20 because it isn't locked by archon quest
Tighnari:
@@Tururu134 dehya:
I think only Albedo should, for geo, but that's
Honestly
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@@justjuniorjaw this
Albedos pretty strong even at C0 tho, especially with R5 cinnabar, better than jean or diluc imo
@@part-timedebiru9681 albedo main spotted
eula cons are way too strong, it'd kinda be like having shenhe on standard
申鶴一命也強，神罗萬心跟c0申鶴神鶴萬心差不多，但一命給凍結免費秒傷提升？米桑不会的。shenhe c1 is strong too,shinra tenses and Ayaka kokomi shenhe kazuha is not that different c0.but Shenhe c1 increase the team dps for free,mhy will not let u do that
shenhe cons are way too good for a standard so i dont see them adding her to standard
Cope is strong on this one.
@@William-Sunderland no like really, c6 Eula is too strong for a standard character.
@@William-Sunderland how so? i'm not even a eula stan, i'm just stating
When working on the energy calculator sheet, it feels so confusing. But then I see you doing energy like that for Beidou looks so much simpler.
When they want to beef up the standard banner, they'll do what they did with Tignarhi which is release them, give them one rate up, then toss them into the pool. Now whether or not they'll make them an actual good character remains to be seen.
Albedo on standard would make it harder to get secure a geo team for people not winning him in the permanent banner or to lost 50/50s. and he's necessary to make the team complete. I can go 2 years without completing my geo team if he's added to standard and i'm unlucky
Also mihoyo "need" him for every November-December banner because he is genshin's mariah carey 🤣 (no, but for continuation of dragonspine event series)
AR58, been playing for a year, I have C6 Jean, C4 Keqing, C2 Diluc, but I never got Mona and Qiqi until this month lol
They could just rerun them?
This, also there are only a few geo characters and taking one away would make them even less, for other elements it wouldn't be a problem but geo mostly works with each other. And seeing how it's the least popular element they may not add another one any time soon, they already won't for the entirety of Sumeru as far as we know.
14:13 this is exactly why I never got into pulling for or building geo characters. To have the best geo team you basically need itto gorou albedo ZL. That’s 3 different geo 5*’s that have little to no use outside of a geo team, apart from maybe ZL in melt ganyu. Albedo CAN be used as a fill slot in some teams, but is never the option. Itto should never be ran outside of a geo team.
I’d much rather pull for a 5* like venti, kazuha, raiden, kokomi, or yelan that can all fit in many teams. Or dps 5*’s like ayaka, ganyu, hu Tao, tartaglia, or ayato whose teams all revolve around universal supporting or off-field dps characters that many teams use.
Geo is simply too much of an investment for me to get into. Not to mention the geo domain is very resin inefficient if you don’t have kokomi, and you need a good 4 piece set on both itto and albedo.
At the very least, I think getting Zhongli and Albedo might be worth it. Like you said, Zhongli is universal. Albedo with Zhongli makes any reaction pair super good. Then you really just need a Gorou and Noelle to fill in the rest of the team.
I tried getting Gorou. I got two 5 star characters and still do not have a Gorou after pulling on his banner. That is the problem with mono geo. They specifically need Gorou and without him mono geo is pretty scuffed. Now I have this Itto and c6 Noelle that are just permanently benched. I still find use for my Albedo and Zhongli though since they work together pretty well. Putting in something like a Xingqiu or Fischl just feels bad in an almost mono geo team since they could be used so much more effectively in a different team.
@@AzureDrag0n1 If you have Yun Jin she works well with Noelle, since she relies on normal attacks. Ning and geo traveler are also valid options, one buffing geo damage and the other crit%, and both are good batteries. Mono geo teams without Gorou will still do really solid damage, don't let his absence discourage you from playing certain characters if you like them.
Nice, my question about Cyno/Beidou made it in. I figured it'd work, but I was mostly asking because I keep seeing people outright dismiss running Beidou with Cyno on principle of her needing a battery, without the thought that Cyno would be doing that from on-field.
Just make Wanderpog Invocation and slap Albedo on there. At the rate Genshin is going, they won't be able to rerun characters efficiently if they stick to the current setup for banners (as in, we're gonna need triple banners or a rotating standard banner).
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Getting albedo off the standard banner would be so amazing, although the people who rolled for him as a limited would be sore about him being "devalued" and rightly so.
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I do feel each element should be represented in the standard banner.
to your point re: wishing for a specific 4*, I remember wishing on ayaka's 1st banner only because I wanted chongyun to help me clear the new hydro abyss heralds in spiral abyss. I got c1 ayaka before I got chongyun
Hey, good news. Now you got the best character against hydro heralds at C1
Since you talked about Beidou, is there a possibility of using her in a Agravate comp or Mono Electrocomp without Fischl? Did Dori changed something? Like Using a C6 Dori with TF would help somehow?
I Know that Fischl is a incredible unit, but lately I have been trying to depend less on her...
IDK, maybe Cyno will help Beidou to rise from ashes?
PS: Still pissed about Raiden x Beidou not working together
one thing i didnt understand about the cyno and beidou energy thing: why would you want to pair those two to begin with if i may ask? isnt cyno the one you want to battery? or doesnt he need it because he catches most of the particles?
edit regarding geo: i pulled itto and did six more 10pulls after getting itto and ended up with no gorou. when i pulled for kuki/gorou on ittos rerun i ended up with c3 kuki, an itto constellation and THEN i got my first and only gorou xD
No. No no no, I completely disagree on Geo being fine, in a good spot and needing no changes. If you're making elements tier list, you will need to add 10 tiers below the second worst element just to show how bad Geo is. Especially now when Electro got boosted by Dendro to a pretty comfortable spot.
1. I fundamentally disagree with the idea of self-contained element being good in a game like GI, focused on elements and reactions. Especially the current state of the roster. Let's assume every element has 10 characters to it. When we have any non-Geo character, it has at least 60 other characters to choose from as their teammates, while Geo char will have only 10. That destroys any prospects of team building or creating a fully functional team using characters you have and not those you must have. For this idea to work, Geo needs 3 or even 4 times more characters than any other element, which is ridicuolus.
2. To play Geo teams you must have several limited 5* or specific high cons 4* and you can't swap them with anything else, because Geo works only with itself. That makes Geo teams literally the most expensive teams to play. And adding some essential Geo 5* to a standard banner is a recipe for disaster as standard 5* are virtually impossible to get. It took me 2 years of playing every day to get a single copy of Diluc and that can be considered lucky.
To clarify on "you can't swap them with anything else": once you start swapping Geo characters for some other elements, there's no point using Geo characters in this team anymore, just swap them with some unit that can actually utilise all the reactions and elements you're apllying.
3. Geo lacks any identity or too much of it's characters don't follow it at all. You can take half of the Geo characters, remove their element completely and nothing will change. They have the same utility, effectivness and gameplay. It's not okay.
4. Geo sucks agains shields, but doesn't want any other elements in it's teams. The only one that half decent is Itto and you can't judge the entire element on a single unit. And various elemental shields are a permanent stay in abyss.
At this point Geo is unironically a Phys recolour. IMHO, Geo dmg should be replaced with Phys and both those elements be "combined". They're working exactly the same anyway, do the same exact job in the same exact way and even have identical buffs. It just Phys is not an "official" element.
TFW physical teams use more elemental reactions than Geo 😅 I agree with all your points. Going for the mono geo route instead of reworking geo reactions was a huge mistake by mhy. It's just a boring element with no particular upside and only downsides
Really Geo is a fricking expensive team, luckily Noelle have so many rate ups since the start of the game that get her C6 is not that hard, but in Gorou's case, he always be with Itou, and you if don't wanna have Itto because you have C6 Noelle, then is annoying get cons for Gorou. Zhongli at least is very flexible for other teams, but Albedo is nothing amazing outside Geo Teams. Yunjin is also a very flexible unit but the Geo carries right now are claymore and catalist and they are to slow for Yunjin, and Ningguang don't scalate with DEF so her in a mono Geo as a carry is not good unless you have C6 Gorou and again is annoying to get his cons because Itto. Indeed Albedo need to be in a standard banner, and not only in a X-mas rate up.
It's still an expensive team because of C6 Noelle. but try Noelle, Albedo/Geo MC, Xingqui/Yelan, Fishl. Beat all my geo focus team so far even with a none C6 Gorou.
Nice brainless comment
Geo MC is a very good geo teammate. He does very. Nice damage if built correctly and his ulti gives a 10% crit rate buff which is very welcome.
As for ninnguang you can build her as either a burst support with noblesse and going full damage and remember gorou at base gives a geo damage bonus by just have 3 Geos which isnt hard. If you do not have the artifacts to make her a DPS (or c6), then you can make her an off healer. Her shield gives a geo damage bonus when going through it, you can then just equip prototype amber and noblesse. Due to her burst ER requirements being so low energy u can pretty much get away with going something like ATK%, Geo Damage Bonus, Healing bonus. If you are using a catalyst user simply for the healing from amber healing bonus helps A LOT on them in their circlet. It can make their heal go from 5% per tic for a max of 15% to 6.75% per tic to a max of 20.25% which is quite a lot really. And you can still do a decent bit of damage with that set up, if not then just go ER sands and the rest doesn't really matter as long as u got er sands and healing bonus circlet.
Yunjin is actually a decent buff for Noelle since Noelle still does some pretty good range from her normal attacks to where Yunjin can really help her out and with gorou being on the team you can get even bigger normal attack damage bonuses
@@bobjones1934 Geo team is among the highest team dps meta with Raiden Hypercarry world record holder and Ayaka Shenhe. You’re a casual
@@bobjones1934 i hate geo but like the character and the golden Excalibur. Also maid cafe is among the most popular thing ever in anime culture so you are just being pathetic salty.
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I want that sword for Kazuha so bad, but then I remember back on Homa's banner how I was trying to get Wavebreaker's Fin and kept getting only Sacrificial Swords over and over. I got Homa, 2 R5 Sac Swords, and no 4 star polearm. I'm glad I risked it on a banner I could use both weapons, not gonna lie, because it was painful.
another factor to consider a character being put in standard is also how much they made. So yeah, the likes of Raiden, Ayaka, Yelan, etc. will never be on standard. So Yoimiya & Albedo is pretty much obvious choices from both meta & financial view. Klee, while her first banner made banks, that was because the game just started, just look at her rerun to see how she tanks lol. So Hoyo would not mind putting her on standard banner as well, people just don't like playing her
I was expecting them to add albedo on the standard banner after they released his 4* sword.
The ONLY reason I would be upset about Albedo being put on Standard is if they didn't give him at least one more rerun before that. Because I really want Albedo- and I really want the opportunity to guarantee I get him before he's shoved into a nebulous "maybe you'll get him if you lose a 50/50". Or they could add the weapon banner thing to the standard banner, that would be cool.
Agree on never rolling on the weapon banner for one specific 4*
That's how I ended up with a Hunter's Path and 5 Fav Codexes in 40 pulls
We need more catalyst supports that *can Crit*
@@Ben-vg6ox well, every catalyst user is support with ttds. And only kokomi normally can't crit
If albedo was on the standard banner, I probably would have rolled for Itto. Needing both itto and albedo to play just one comp is just way too expensive for me
It's is hard to afford if you are f2p and also Geo just doesn't go anywhere else so investing into geo units is always less worth than investing into literally any other element
Freeze teams with 4 limited 5 stars per team enter the chat
@@yoba867 thing is, freeze teams have very powerful 4* alternatives. Not just that, but their 5*s usually fit into multiple teams.
But also I dont run any freeze teams either lol
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11:07 what's the name of that math formula?
How does C1 Yelan affect Funerational rotations? What about C1 Kokomi with taser and Sukokomon comps?
can someone explain to me how bloom works?? i mean, the only thing that matters is the EM on the person making the hyperbloom/burgeon, or the EM of the people creating the seed is also relevant??
Burgeon and hyperbloom are only affected by the EM and level of the character triggering the reaction, not creating the seed. Bloom is the one affected by the EM and level of who creates the seed.
Honestly just put most of the older characters in the standard like any gacha games please, also gl getting c6 cons for eula in standard, the more the characters are in standard the harder it is to actually get cons, keep in mind you can get weapons as well any sane person won't pull on standard just like in any gacha games lul, but I can see why HYV not doing it, sinr they released new character after a long ass time
What are your thoughts as mihoyo starts to lock characters in which comps are viable. Like nilou works great with dendro and meh with any other.
If new characters get added to the standard banner, then they should add the ability to select a character and make it like a custom limited character banner. Having more characters in the standard banner may make it worse 'cause it'll be even more random
Considering that stringless was literally the first 4* I pulled on the game, not weapon, but 4* in general, and I still have it at r1 even though I pulled on weapon banner featuring it........yeah I never get the 4* weapon I want lmao
I think hoyoverse just needs to fix archaic petra's clunky crystalize and geo will be fine for elemental teams
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I do have a question: which anemo unit should i have for Kuki Hyperbloom team
I also wanna know the best hydro unit as well.
SCRAP THAT just tell me the best Kuki Shinobu team pls
if you were to bring dori to abyss, in what comp would you use?
Wish for a 4* weapon in the weapon banner if:
-You're ok getting ANY of the 5*s
-Your account doesn't need any 4* character constellation and whatnot
-That's not the only 4* weapon you want in there
-You're pilling up wishes and is gonna be a while before your next banner
For endgame players is mostly fine to do some pulls, tho i would say weapons in general are way less entertaining then getting new characters.
True, this happen to me when ar +50, look guide for some char, and like every genshin content creator said "use favonius or sacrificial weapon, etc". But i didn't have any of those weapons 😂
Even if the option to make another standard banner or include the very old limited chars into the current ones, mhy could still use the '2 months or more event banners' that streches over patches, with no featured 4 stars characters since thats one of the factors u re going to pull in an event banners. This one focuses more on limited old characters, but they have no seperate weapon banners. Why 2 months? Its usually what it takes for me to get to the guaranteed pity after losing 5050.
Can you do some maths and work out the chances of getting a 4* at C6 vs a 5* at C0? I always see CCs comparing the two but I think that point of view only makes sense when you’ve been playing since launch, when there were far less 4*s and therefore everyone could get them to C6. If you started later (I started 9 months ago) it seems obvious that getting a 4* to C6 is far more difficult than getting a 5* once
Wait didn't Xiphos get nerfed hard after this was recorded
I wish they add albedo to standard but i m gessing they will probably make a new geo unit and add it there .
Albedo is kinda their december filler . They release his banner with some dragonspine event and they go take their holyday 😅
@@bobjones1934 albédo is pretty good what
@@bobjones1934 dumbass not doing what Ayaka or Raiden does isn't "worst limited 5 star" territory, its the majority of 5 stars in general. By that logic, fucking Ganyu is cringe and unusable.
You want the actual worst 5 star in the game? Maybe look at Qiqi, or the new unit they're releasing in a few days. Limited 5 star? There's Albedo's sister, Wanderer, Cyno, maybe more I'm forgetting
@@bobjones1934 lmao talk to me when you can compare two characters properly. albedo is an off field sub dps/support while ayaka is a dps and raiden is another sub dps/main dps. support in some instances and teams.
i wish i saw the math for trying to snipe a specific 4 star from the weapon banner before i dumped half my sumeru savings on it trying to get 1 copy of fav sword (ar 57, still 0 fav swords)
coping by thinking i am closer to getting an eventual homa or jade cutter 🤡
Now that you mention it... Albedo totally feels like a standard banner 5* character.
I don't think people would be mad if Albedo got into the Standard Banner.
Ok but having albedo and yoimiya on the standard is something id want for real. I can finally have albedo for my noelle team (just need gorou) and more constellations for my wife yoimiya (idk if c6 yoimiya would be any better, bu5 at least its something)
Eula constellations are so good if she's in standard getting lucky can actually make whale damage on your account
If they add Albedo on standard, I wouldn't mind losing 50/50
You would still be getting Qiqi C6
I have a C6 Mona and akeqing and a C4 Diluc but managed to still not get jean
Honestly with my luck I'm sure I would never get them off 50/50
why are albedo and xiaos c4 swapped
The element there's the fewest characters of is geo. And considering who we know is coming out during Sumeru, this problem is only going to get worse.
Boutta put all of Mondstat on standard
Albedo, Tingari, Eula, Yoi, Xiao
That's a hell of a standard banner
And you give Geo, Dendro and Phy that are missing, also you give single target pyro and dps Anemo that are different from the jean and diluc
diluc isnt a dps he's an anti dps lmao
I wish I had albedo, of the 6 or 7 characters I dont have I want him and ayaka but I cant justify pulling albedo when other characters I want more were coming out. Currently I only really want dehya so maybe I'll pull albedo if he reruns soon.
Having had C1 Klee since 1.0 (got early drops back to back and had no idea how wishing worked back then), if they added Klee to standard I'd be super happy. A chance to get C2 Klee when losing 50/50? That would be awesome, I wouldn't even be mad about losing 50/50 if that happened, considering that it's actually among the better C2 out there (no, of course, not on par with Raiden's, but still pretty damn good). Potentially getting some Albedo constellations would also be great, if I managed to get to C4, so that my double geo Xiao team would become that much stronger.
rip ningguang for not even being mentioned in the geo section.
how about ningguang in a quickswap geo team? like, noelle/itto + gorou + ningguang (4pc noblesse oblige) + bennet
ningguangs jade wall can grant bonus geo damage and her ultra costing 40 energy can make her good in a quick swap strategy
There is the Liyue region in the northwest - "Qiaoying Village" - hinted at in parts of the game. My guess is that they will release a Geo 5* with meh constellations who will go onto the Standard banner at that time when it opens up.
There's also Blackliff Forge being a possible future region, and being close to Sumeru, could be released first. Qiaoying Village can be released around Fontaine, I guess.
There probably won't be a new statue of the seven, it will likely just fall under the "Bishui Plain" or "Minlin" area denoted by that statue of the seven
Still hoping Blackcliff Forge is in that unreleased coastal area between Sumeru and Liyue. Close to the Chasm so it makes the most sense.
Cmon MHY we're still waiting on Dark Iron Sword refines xd
@@theGamrPersonGuy its guaranteed to be blackcliff forge. They don't have any reason to block off the area between Port Ormos and Watatsumi Island if it will just be an open space like Inazuma and Guyun Stone Forest. Perhaps they'll add another archon quest on lantern rite and thats when they will open it. We'll see
Regarding yelan vs xingqiu for dendro, if xingqiu applies so much hydro that he maintains a hydro aura, isn't he worse than yelan since hydro aura (dendro on hydro) means less seeds?
Yes, but with current dendro units Yelan is also too much hydro. Due to quicken working as dendro you still can get 2 seeds when you trigger dendro on electrocharged enemy and for that you want fast hydro.
@@fikoblin bet thanks
I dont get this argument that Albedo is necessary for a itto geo team, cant we replace him with Bennett for that dmg buff? That's what I did with my geo team
Yeah, I agree completely about the state of Geo. Its absolutely crazy that Geo is so dependent on its 5stars (Zhongli, Albedo) or high constellation 4stars (c6 Noelle, high constellation Gorou) but they simply aren’t frequently available (only 3 Geo 4stars, two of whom are extremely new) and at the SAME TIME is the self reliant element. Tbh if I didn’t love literally everyone in the Geo cast (excepting Zhongli - who is simply too strong for me to miss) I would be struggling with a benched Albedo.
I really hope they bring a Geo 5star to the standard banner at some point.
you'd always wanna activate c6 xq regardless of anything, right? or can i just stay ad C5...is that gonna be better worse overall for bloom compared to C6?
Yeah his c6 is busted you want to activate it.
why wouldn’t you activate it?
@@oneirocriticaster9402 zajeff mentioned before how xq's c6 can remove dendro easily. You'd want blooms made from hydro on dendro, not dendro on hydro. So i was just wondering how it's worth to stay at C5 for that.
@@KHR0ME i don’t think it is. c6 helps his dmg and energy generation a lot. and even tho he applies a ton of hydro he’s still better than yelan in sucrose hyperbloom
@@KHR0ME the upside to having C6 activated are more than the potential future of it ruining some teams functions nevertheless if it's too much hydro but you still need fast hydro then Yelan can do that
I personally run Itto in Abyss without Albedo and he does fine. He's not broken like other meta units are, but he does the job without trouble.
That said, I do have Redhorn and I'm sure that without it I wouldn't be able to 36 star. I do run Zhongli with him, but I used to run Geo traveler in his place before I pulled Zhongli and I could make it work, even though I had to struggle a lot and Traveller's balls are SO annoying.
So no, you don't NEED Albedo specifically, but I agree that you still NEED some combination of other 5* resources to make it work. The whole Geo situation is sad, really.
You need Albedo to have a Geo meta team, not to make Itto "work". Almost everything "works" technically with the right investment. It's just his maximum ceiling comp like Ayaka's is Shenhe/Kazuha.
I 36 starred the abyss yesterday with itto on r1 serpent spine, zhongli, c1 gorou, and fischl. No albedo. it was definitely doable, just not the easiest thing ever lol
itto pretty good if on burst, sometimes i can do 70k per swing his moo moo usually reach more than 100k
I'm a Nilou simp who is planning on pulling for her weapon. I hope they put that new sword for Kazuha on that banner 😁😁
Watch them put Unforged on that banner, seems like the pattern when it comes to weapons honestly...always 1 good weapon/ BiS for on banner character and then a useless weapon alongside it
@@Ben-vg6ox The 3.1 reruns are looking like they'll be Eula and Venti, so it's impossible they run the Unforged with Nilou's weapon unless they do something wild like a triple banner or some BS.
albedo being on standard would actually be pog, since a lot of players have zhongli and double geo is a good team comp
Hey jeff, I was wondering jojeff, joel and zajoof collab when? 😊
One way to buff Geo is to have another level of elemental resonance... "If you have 3 or more characters of the same element in your party, increase elemental damage of that type by 20%.". This buffs all elements to be fair, but probably buffs geo the most as they have good teams with 3 geo units.
Idk what's worse on this comment section;
-TCs sheeps shitting on Eula/Yoimiya like they are unusable when the game is easy. (May as well have a soundboard with Ayzel repeating Eulabad 3000 times per second on your streams to make your average viewer happy)
-Eula mains getting mega triggered by one man's opinion.
-Comments talking about Eula's damage thinking you need Bennet to hit 300k in abyss when you can hit that with a 180-190cv build using a 4* weapon.
-That one dude saying Kokomi is Qiqi 2.0
Ah man, Genshin community.
i heckin love the jenshin community BatChest
The community is slowly on par with LoL community as well
None of those are
Hot takes is the only interesting thing to do in this easy game anyway once you log off
@@gericjohnm.olivar9563 Nowhere fucking close lmao.
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I would only put Albedo in the Standard banner. Maybe Klee but that fucks up the symmetry of having only 1 5* of each element.
Why do u consider albedo to be best geo unit, why no zhongli?
i had 180 pulls, i needed fav sword to r5 cuz r1 fails to proc on kazuha c0, and i have zero weapon on yoimiya, i need two homa and a wgs for hutao xiao and eula, guess what? i got r5 fav sword, r4 rust, two homa and kne wgs. man that was a blast for me.
Totally agree with this decision since I want those const
I would rather have a neutral element like geo be the worst element in game than some element that's reaction based ...as it will drag the whole reaction experience down with it
Geo isn’t the worst element in the game, it has the strongest resonance and is a walking vv set with zhongli (20% from kit and 20% from resonance). My C0 R1 Itto hit 1,348,342 dmg in 1 ult and that’s all AoE (if all crit above 1.5 million and overkill). He is currently the best dps in the game, only ayaka speedrunning burst and raiden c2 can outperform him and these 3 are placed as the carrys by TCs regardless. They have more than decent single target dmg with no AoE falloff and kit has little to no drawbacks. You need to stop listening to the clown TenTen because Geo is meant to be played by itself, when you play it wrong then wonder why it’s bad its because you have skill issue in a button press game
Xiao too short to meet the height reqs necessary to be put into Standard Banner Kappa LAMENT
Bro your analysis on Geo State was the best thing I've heard in my whole Genshin life!!! You are so right!!!! So much knowledge!!!
bestie ur so right about albedo's constellations being standard banner constellations lmaooo they are doodoo
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My Eula blasts through all content in the game at C0. Although I would welcome getting free cons for Eula on a missed 50/50, she is way too strong for hoyo to ever let that happen. I also think Yoimiya is better than you give her credit for. The biggest thing Yoi has versus other characters is literally not having to move. Xingqui E, Raiden E, and any shield and she can literally melt any target in the game without losing time to dodging and repositioning. Just mash left click in the middle of the fight. Enemy teleports around? Who cares, Yoi just re-locks when they appear again.
Something I also don't ever hear you talk much about Zajef is characters that counter content. The above example for Yoi is part of this sort of conversation. Eula also has this benefit that there is very little that actually counters a claymore, phys DPS with resistance to interruption (without mentioning her nuke). Whereas someone like Hu Tao is the opposite of this. Charge attack cancelling, repositioning, lots of dodging around. Hu Tao might have a higher ceiling, but comfort and ease of countering enemies means so much in Genshin when none of the content is hard enough to require a high damage ceiling. Just food for thought.
Yes this apply to people who already reached that ceiling, what about little timmy across the street is 20 seconds short from reaching 9 stars, he can't just left click faster as Yoi
getting the one 4*weapon or chara is so hard, took me one and a half year as a low spender to get Rust bow
2 years in and I'm still Rustless. I made my peace with it at this point
you can have my R5 level 20 rust as my only bow characters I use are tighnari and lyney@@groen90
any balls enjoyer? just me? ok
brother predicted chronicled wish 17:21
2:44Welll 8 days from this video somethingss gonna happen
hoyo might create a new perm banner but it wont use blue fates
dose full EM Yoimiya work in burgun team if i use her burst only?
That's too copium, the explosion only happen every 2s, the enemy marked is random, I dont think the explosion AoE is wide enough to touch the seeds, and finally the CD. Just use thoma for burgeon
Why would you ever use Yoimiya over Thoma for burgeon though...
Even if you already invested into Yoimiya and don't want to invest into Thoma, Yoimiyas burst AoE isn't that big, it can only occur once every 2s, has ICD on top of being slow ticking ... Yoimiya doesn't generate particles if you burst only either
Just don't do it
If you're running bows only, does it make sense to give 4p Archaic Petra on Gorou?
what? gorou is only good in mono-geo teams. 4ap does nothing for mono-geo
I'm a bit confused, what do you mean bows only? You trying to make a bow only team?
@@Ben-vg6ox No, a bows only *account*. As in, you're not allowed to use ANY characters unless they're a bow user.
Also, not me personally.
@@oneirocriticaster9402 no shit, Sherlock. That's not the question I asked; Gorou is the only Geo bow user, and he has a crystallise magnet mechanic. 4p Archaic give him some buffing utility when you only have access to bows.
@@ginsengaddict sounds like you know the answer to your question then. why even ask it?
Lets swap Albedo and Xiao C4 and they actually have a decent constelations
It's kinda sad people actually want the Standard banner to be crap forever.
Oh no, a F2P player could get C6 Eula after playing for 3 years! What he's gonna do? Clear a 36* Abyss even faster? OUTRAGEOUS!
that's not the problem (and if someone shits advantages for f2ps then he/she is a crap); the issue would be that people who want any specific permanent character would lose the guarantee of getting it in a rate-up, and would be destined to pure rng.
We read people saying "c6 qiqi and still no Jean, 1.X player" every single day, so throwing some units into SB not only won't ensure you to get any of them, but also increases a lot the chances to get a specific one of them. What HYV should do is create new standard 5* units (exactly as they did with Tighnari) and rotate between 2 sets of them to rate up each patch, if we want a better SB.
@@puma2407 They did a Keqing banner before, so Standard characters could still have solo rate-ups every once in a while. The only reason they don't do it now is that nobody really wants cons for them, so they don't sell.
If Eula was in the Standard banner, then people that got her to C3/C4 from losing 50/50 would be very willing to get the rest, since C6 is such an improvement. We saw the impact a strong but reachable constellation can do for revenue with Raiden.
Yeah, I kind of agree, I would think they should probably just add every unit and weapon ever to the standard banner once their debut patch is over
It would be really weird to reach a point where you have every standard 50/50 lose unit at C6 like the whales but your f2p or low spenders because they didn't change the standard banner for 5years....
I don't mind if some older limited 5*s eventually become Standard 5*s, coz if they don't then at some point we'll be seeing Triple Banners and I'm not sure how I feel about that... Hell right now I've been personally lucky in not necessarily desiring to high hell BOTH characters in these Double Banners, but if for example sometime in the future Ei and Yae are the double banners, I'm not eating anything for that month.
Wish they just add everything to the standard banner once their debut is over , the standard banner is literally just about pointless at this point...
@@Ben-vg6ox All new 4* are added to standard banner so it's not pointless at all. Also not everyone has every good weapon even after playing about 2 years. It's not like we're getting that many standard pulls anyway. Oh and remember you can only get amber/keaya and lisa from standard banner. So it's actually well balanced.
@@asoko1157 as a C7 Lisa Main, I will say thank goodness for the Standard Banner.
And the shop rotation.