Jocko Willink & Ryan Holiday talk Stoicism, Resiliency, and Learning New Skills.
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- Jocko Willink is a retired naval officer who served in the Navy SEALs. He is host of the Jocko Podcast and co-author of Extreme Ownership and The Dichotomy of Leadership. In this video, Ryan Holiday and Jocko discuss Stoicism, Resiliency, Learning New Skills, and more.
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Ryan Holiday has influenced the modern stoicism movement greatly. His books are read by modern stoicism's practitioners like Tim Ferriss, Robert Greene, and others.
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Ryan talked about it from more theoretical/philosophical point of view and Jocko was more of practitioner going straight to the point. Its amazing to see this kind of conversation happening! Great work! Keep it up!
@2:52 “It’s hard to do worse than Jocko’s stuff” 😂 burn!
2:38 that part about feeling " I do have to... I don´t feel like I´ve done anything great " that hitted me... there´s always something else to do/master
Just when I thought I couldn't have any more respect for Jocko, he goes and says he also was disappointed with Metallica selling out for the Black album! Total respect!!!💯
What is really eating me at the moment is that Society has decided that we must all curl up into a ball and cry that we are victims. I want to just live my life without obviously crazy dictates from others.
It starts with initiative of the self, community is describing a whole in society. Stoicism is about practically inputting lessons into life but nothing changes if nothing ever gets started so start with you and lead by example. Part of being a stoic is realizing you can't control others but you can hold up a sign and say I'm doing what is righteous would you like to make this society a better place too?
@@centaurlogic5155 - Well said. ❤️🩹
That's solely your perception and who you choose to listen to.
@@atotalwanka but as you can take from my comment I'm not buying into the narrative they're selling.
Anyone else notice the distinct lack of ads on this video? Thanks Ryan!
Edit 12.17.20: aaand now there’s an ad
He chose not to monetized his channel.
I have and its fantastic and the teachings are superb
Yeah...CZcams Premium. 😁
There's an ad half way through
@@53af00d CZcams just recently rolled out a decision to automatically place ads in people’s videos whether they want them there or not, including people (like me) that aren’t even monetized. Annoying.
The collaboration I’ve been waiting for!
Great podcast episode. Jocko is always so on point and candid.
Q
this channel is so much better when the focus is just on Stoicism and not a political ideology, Jocko is great
Unfortunately, Stoicism overlaps with politics because the Stoic owes its duty to the state. But I agree that some of his videos about politics have been utter garbage like the one about statue removal.
Agree.
Freaking epic, this collaboration is bliss.
hell yeah man
Needed this today fellas. Thank you both for what you do.
I really was looking forward to this collaboration!! Great video!
Awesome interview Ryan. Jocko is the real deal!
Two of my favorite people, absolutely amazing. 👍
This is powerful to think about, this is helping me move forward. Thank you.
This is great. Keeping the mind straight and not straying the path is hardest when it's dark. It's key to remember what you've learned that gives you true strength and keep it close in your heart. It makes the long ride all the whole more bearable.
Thanks for sharing this. I appreciated how Mr. Willnik shared his path and how Stoic philosophies became apparent to him before he ever read a single word on the topic. It just illustrates how universal so much of it is to our daily lives. Watching he and Mr. Holiday have such an engaging conversation was time well spent, in my view. :)
Extremely interesting and enriching talk. Thanks very much.
Thank you both.
I love this-reminds me of Robert Solow's "learn by doing". Classical and timeless wisdom.
Awesome... Jocko and Ryan together!!!!!.
Awesome podcast. Thank you
Thanks men! Crushed it
Just came across your channel. Love it!
Thank you my friend.
Such a helpful conversation - legends
Why didn't I find this video sooner? Yes, Ryan and Jocko!!!
The thoughts on parenting were spot on
Great collaboration. Glad it found me.
Thank you
Wow Ryan holiday really resonated with me at 24:00.
It's kind of funny he was talking about convergent evolution, I'm from India and I think so alike to him in terms of putting projects in timelines in a manner as to mitigate the effect of outcomes of the previous ones.
Jocko : The modern stoic
Good Talk 💯
Thanks discipline equates freedom
This is awesome
Great video
4:40 Epic quote!
Great episode. The scariest part of my transition was the not having a job immediately. I still had the mindset that I had to work FOR someone.
I'm a YUGE Jocko fan. I love this vid
Have always thought Jocko is very stoic 🙏
accidentaly stoic is still stoic...
My worlds colliding. So glad this happened
Need to learn something new every single day,just a foreign word would doit today.Have fun kids.
Background music is absolutely gorgeous, get it back please
Hey my luck ran out! Love this guy!
It's nice to see you interviewing someone that isn't a leftist for once, diversity of thought is always good. #DisciplineIsFreedom
I thought this would be much more interesting than it actually was.
haha i loved the bit when the discussion transmuted into talking smack on black album - such a typical thing for metalheads. brilliant video
part 2 coming up???
Very good, I am willing to learn how to be a thinker.
Christopher hitchens
Read the source texts. Ryan Holiday is a marketer, and sadly, though I have more respect for Jocko he is the same. At least Jocko isn't claiming to be a stoic sage. And all of the source texts for stoicism are in the public domain. They are widely available and free.
My line is, ***The obstacle is where real life happens*** Being truley humble is key for me. I must admit to my innermost being that I have to accept the situation as it is. Then I have to apply my best thinking to this situation whatever it is. A lot of times it's requiring that I made a mistake this time around, admit this to myself. I AM responsible no matter what. Whether my mistake or the pandemic that happens. How can I fix it? How can I make this better? I'm not talking about material wealth or that type of success. But inner happiness and fulfillment. First, do no harm. I start there in my interactions. Most of the time, I manage to come out the other side feeling a great sense of accomplishment, I feel a sense that I did good and during that journey I've touched other people's lives and hopefully added something good to their lives and to the greater good of the world, too, I hope. In my own little way, in my little piece of the planet. And that's really what's most important to me.
Yes. Pure, simple true ; to accept the situation as it is, to do our best and carry on. Thanks!
I think the kind of life I’ve lived will serve me as a older Nursing student. Crazy!
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5:50 the human factors of the fork tailed doctor killer, right here. Accomplished people buying into a different area of knowledge and thinking their skills will just transfer. Physics had a word with them. I nearly did the same thing with motor bikes in my early 20s.
Iron Maiden got me very interested in history too!!!
Omg! I’ve been waiting for you two to get together! Yes!!!
Discipline 🤘🔥
Same!!! 2 of my favorites hell yeah!
It's like Titties and beer.
Perfect match.
he uploaded in his podcast with him like 3 weeks ago
You seem to be looking for the secret while Jocko is just living in the simple.
hahaha yes
You must of just heard of Ryan Holiday today..........
@@bigern182 yeah just realized he's a writer always looking for the secret to success
your kidding me! two of my favorite youtube personalities and authors come together in one video to talk on the virtues i live my life by! awesomeness x1000! kudus you Ryan and Jocko!
Been kicking As##% since I got out of the military.
But ive gotten lazy and now Im just coasting. Then again, i think ive been coasting all my life.
Full time coaster.
Does anybody know the conversation Ryan is talking about with the Professor who teaches children about classics??? What is her name??? Thanks!
@@RyanHolidayYT Great! Thank you so much!!!
2:49-2:53
Accidental burn? 😂
Yeah, Ouch! :P
Yeah damnn lol
Ha!
🖤
Would El Cid be considered a stoic?
Is it possible to think, progress, be successful and happy, to live life without relying on militaristic analogies and perspectives?
Do one interview with david goggins.
Gimme a break like everyone who was a seal spec forces is a superman. Then why didn't they win a gold medal in any Olympic sport? More unique
Death Larsen you alright man? You’re good enough.
Spotify??
Although the stories of Lewis Puller and Jim Sursely appear to be parallel examples of two people with catastrophic injuries who differ in their approaches to addressing the same issues, that is only superficially accurate.
To compare one life to another on a narrow set of criteria and judge them based on the tangible "success" of each is a flawed method of interpreting what success is in something as complex as life.
For that method to give a useful insight it would require an accounting of a near infinite number of variables in the entirety of each person's experience. Not only is that information unknowable to an observer but also to the individuals themselves.
I think Ryan meant its hard to do better than jockos stuff at the beggining as opposed to hard to do worse.
Do you know that the character of Hannibal Lector is an excellent stoic? So what made him different from Marcus Aurelius?
He ate people.
@@warrenpabbott 😂😂😂
@@warrenpabbott Nailed it!
Diet
Shout-out to Iron maiden and motor head 🤘
I am learning it's all about how we react, it has changed me.. Black flag is big difference than SABBATH.. war pigs is commercialized but is what we are seeing now. Truth
15:00
Jocko pumps me up, but his level of discipline and resolve makes him seem like an alien that I can't relate to. Only a tiny percentage of men can make if through Navy SEALS training. I still think he provides great advice, but I just find it more difficult to implement his advice than advice from a mere mortal .
Good points. Totally valid. Can you do some of what he says and build on it slowly? Jocko was once mortal too right? ;)
Reading this all I could hear was Goggins talking about people trying to dismiss what he does as something extra or special to give themselves a pass and excuse not to. In reality, Jocko (and Goggins) go to the bathroom just like we do. There is nothing impossible about discipline. I think its a matter of aligning your thoughts, actions, words and decision with who you say you want to be and go where you say you want to go. Self-sabotage and laziness are real. Don't be a contradiction to yourself and don't make Jocko out to be unattainable to let your ego off the hook. Get Some and Get After It you can totally do anything you want to.
@@deliap.8456 Quite agree. I read Marcus Aurelius and take what can from it, step by step. Its not like I am an Emperor of Rome fighting the Gauls during 15yrs of Plague. Marcus Aurelius might just seem as Alien. ...but, he was human, all too human.
@@deliap.8456 reminded me of that too, Delia. Seeing what David looked like before he "transformed" has been a powerful mental imagery for me.
@Tony discipline will get you to acheive your task. Their training is not on my plate. But that mentality is what we can all use to tackle and accomplish what is on front of you that you say you want.
Penultimate means second to last - is that what you meant?
I wondered that too.
"it's hard to do worse than jocko" means that there's nothing worse than jocko.
Lol 2:50 “ it’s hard to do worse than Jocko’s stuff”
My 6th grade teacher had the wisdom to have us read “I’m No Hero” by Charlie Plumb in 1974. My 1st edition copy of this book is one of my prized possessions.
Looks like a good book. I'm going to get it. Thanks for the recommendation.
@@johnmason8372 You can listen to Capt. Charlie Plumb on the Team Never Quit podcast. It's the first place I learned of him and his exploits. He's an amazing human and an American hero.
@@Yog99504 Thanks for the info.
Jocko doesn’t practice stoicism, stoicism practices Jocko
Meaningwave exists
Jocko is probably one of the best guests you could have had. Such an incredible dude, with a much better mind than people give him credit for. Those who know him know, but for a lot of “outsiders” to him, they think he’s just some muscled up over masculined military dude. I’ve learned more from him and jordan peterson than I have from anyone else in my entire life.
So true
💪🙏🙏👍
I was expecting more from this.
If I may offer some constructive criticism:
1) Don't start responses with "no". I think this happened a handful of times and was off-putting, so I imagine it's worse for the guest. When you do that, you are communicating to the other person: "Everything you just said was invalid". It's similar to "Yes, but", except worse. I could tell you were in agreement and just wanted to clarify your point so you can say something like: "Totally, I agree, and I didn't mean X necessarily, I meant Y" if you felt they misunderstood your point.
2) Get into the depths of what the guest is about without needing to interject your own thoughts or wisdom. We can read your books and listen to your podcasts without guests or podcasts where you are the guest to get your perspective. When you are hosting a guest, it is all about them and the listener wants to figure out interesting information about how they tick, but when you fill in spaces with your own stories and whatnot, it detracts from that.
I would combine it. first the guest’s philosophy, then a debate between host and guest
I love Joco but seriously you put him next to Socrates and Marcus Aurelius ???
Guess what... they were great men, but they were just men. Jocko's been through SEAL training and led men in that arena. That puts him in VERY rare air. Socrates and Aurelius would call him a brother.
@@gcxred4kat9 they were just man??? Read about Socrates life as a warrior (you would be amazed) ,
And now about Marcus he was in the front all his life (king of the world btw)
So Jocko is a great model and we can learn a lot from him, but some perspective is needed here ;)
I really enjoyed the discussion. Nonetheless, I am a little distressed about the American confiscation of stoicism, in terms of using it as some sort of self-improvement, goal-achieving, success-maximizing approach. And I honestly doubt this is the main goal of stoic thinking and living. Cheers!
I thought something similar when he posted the top 10 stoic moments in history vid. And Ryan made a statement like "we might not ever need to stand against Tyranny in Our Lives today but..."I felt he was only thinking about the developed world/US. cuz I thought there are tons of autrocities going on around the world, and took take them on in your backyard we just gotta plant our feet, apply our minds and take these things on, if it's through business, or head on conflicts for justice. It's for the world and crucial in every time period. let me know if you disagree
@@kisahnalahnpoveda9068 I agree with you on this, Allen. Besides that, my point was more in the direction of let's not use stoicism only as a give 110%, win-it-all thing, but as a way to lead a good life. Sometimes it is not only about winning. I know, a lot of people are inspired by Marcus Aurelius and the whole being-an-emperor stuff. But most of us won't be or do not even want to be liderus maximus. Let us remember that Epictetus was a slave for a good part of his life and then lived a modest (in a good way, modesty is a virtue, no matter what the society around tells you!) life. At the same time, we shall consider that stoicism was and still can be a philosophic tool against autocracy and tyranny, which can take many forms, not only within political systems but also in our daily lives. Cheers!
@@sslupu thanks for your input. I agree with you completely.
Seneca: "Ignorance is the cause of fear."
You guys talking about the world kicking our asses connected to something I just talked with my family about in the Bible. The flood does not come because god is malice, it comes because you are doing things that cause it knowingly. You and jocko tel people to turn around and face their own inner hell and put out the fires
Stoicism has a big impact on the russians
Iron Maiden, Motorhead. Covers coming soon. Play Guys
If John Krasinski and Jerry Seinfeld had a kid, it would be this guy..
WHO is this Professor Herakles to about myths?
Hard to do worse?
Well done Ryan! You might find this of interest on the resilience front (my PhD work was on related topic of functional mental toughness) -czcams.com/video/UrsZ00hw_6M/video.html By the way, just finished your latest book. You crushed it again!!
You’re still Lieutenant Dan-Forrest Gump
Wow! I've been waiting for this combo ... 🙏
Legends🔥🤘
Great video to watch in the middle of listening to The Obstacle is the Way!! ❤
Obstacle is the way...LEGENDARY
Can a nerd can a freak can somebody nobody notices and definitely could be invisible scholar of these teachings no one sees be cool. does one has to look like these projections mirrored as heroes, all appearing to be angry at something..
Words of Wisdom
•I come from nowhere
• I'm going nowhere
•I am nothing
•• within these words one finds power
The neighborhood idiot
When God's collaborate
Really enjoyed this podcast, hope you have him again in the future
I will remain UNBROKEN!
2:50 Hard to do worse than jocko's stuff. Lol
As everyone mentioned, what a duo, great collab, much stoic.
🔥🔥 stoicism
At its finest
Ryan asks. How do you stay tight when you don't have too? I was really surprised Ryan asked this question. Man always has too stay tight as you put it. It gives him meaning and purpose and without meaning and purpose you head in a downward spiral. No matter how rich you are. Also, when you say he "doesn't have too" infers he has climbed to the top and no where else to go. You have to ask yourself. "Compared to what?"
Loved the interview. Well done guys!