1975 StarCraft SuperSport 18 Resto-Mod
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- Restoration / Modification of an 1975 18' StarCraft SuperSport with the original 1975 Evinrude 70Hp (i'll cover the rebuild / restoration in another video).
The project started in March '13 and the 1st Shakedown Cruise (Splash) was in August '20.
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Incredible. Aircraft quality workmanship. Good for you!
Thank you @kristinjohnson3655!
Congratulations! Time well spent great restamod. You extend the life that boat for another 50 years. If anybody wants to know how to do a proper restoration, your video should be at the top of the list.
I just bought a 1981 StarCraft SuperSport 18 yesterday and will be redoing the entire boat. It was an inboard and I will be beefing up the transom and mounting a 115hp on it. I am so impressed with you boat, I can't begin to explain. I love these boats and you did amazing work. I absolutely love how the polish hull came out. You are extremely talented, have great patience and did an outstanding job!!!
Thank you for the kind words! Good luck on your O/B conversion!
Strait up raised the bar, I’ve already started on my 73 18ss and now I feel inadequate lol. The odd thing is I don’t have any of that corrosion or cracking you had to deal with. Great video and thank you for sharing
Thank you for the comment! These are timeless platforms to build on! yeah this old girl was ridden hard and put away wet. The engineers relied on the wood components for structural integrity...once the transom, deck and/or side panels rot &/or get loose, it goes downhill. Good luck with your rebuild!
An absolutely beautiful job. I have a 1974 16ft Super sport, and You have given me so many ideas. Thanks!!!
thank you! what do you have powering your SS? good luck on your resto!
I just bought a 1975 StarCraft SS 180, same boat ! This video is a great reference for a great boat
thanks Tom L! It's a great boat...and starting hull if you're restoring.
The best I've seen on here and I've seen ALOT... Great job
Thank you so much for the comment!
Can’t believe the quality of this restore out of your garage. Super impressed
Thank you Shawn!
This is the most meticulous and well-documented SC restoration I've ever seen. If I can put even a 10th of what I've seen here into practice on my Sylvan, I'll be thrilled. I loved the finishing touches with wooden consoles and the precision templating. Well done and thanks for sharing! I'm going to take a page from your splash well reinforcement ideas.
Thank you so much for the kind words and good luck with your restoration!
Looks great! Thanks for posting this for us who are thinking about taking on a project like this.
Thank you and you're most welcome! I'm almost ready to post a new video that showcases some of her upgrades and how they're being utilized!
What a very well made video sir. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
U have the patience of a Saint. Nice work!
Thank you!
Magnificent Quality restoration.As a auto restorer since 1978 I would be proud to own a boat you all restored.
Thank you David! I've been jonesin' for a project car in the garage now that the boat project is wrapped up.
Wow, talk about setting a very high bar! Well done. It looks really great!! I have a '78, 16' SS with the original 85 on back, but I can only dream of it looking that nice. Again, well done and thanks for posting the video.
Thank You! I bet that 16' flies with an 85 on it! Are you planning to restore her?
@@classiccat7403 I've done the best I can with my skill set. I've replaced the interior with new carpet, vinyl bolsters and 4 new seats replacing the original back to back seating. The 2 stroke 85 still purrs like a sewing machine. So at this point, it's just a matter of having fun with it. I do get a lot of nice comments about the old girl from folks that have had a Starcraft in the past though. Have a great time with your boat.
@@Raptoraddict6610 These old bow riders are timeless! i've thought of looking for a V4 for mine but that 3cyl just runs so well, it's original to the boat & is actually pretty good on fuel for a 2 stroke; it's very light and I easily hit the mid-30's at WOT...plenty fast for me.
Wow! Just wow! Amazing build and video!
Thank you so much!
A boat for life! Great job. Love it!!
Thank you Tater!
Nice job on your boat like new!
Thank you!
Amazing job! I can’t imagine the man hours you put into this. I redid my 68’ super sport but no where near this quality. Not to mention the cost.
Appreciate the comment! Enjoy your '68 SS!!
Dude, this is absolutely top notch!
Bruzza! let me know when you're stateside again so you can see it in person!
Nice job! And big fish 🐟 too!
Appreciate the comment john! Fall is the best time for those big carp!
Truly incredible job! The only thing I'd change is the power plant. I'm always looking to go fast doesn't matter what it is, so I'd go with at least a 150hp, I know the 18 gal. tank wouldn't go near as far, but I would have planned for this and added another tank. I'm excessive and not very practical, but that's me. You did an incredible job for sure.
Thanks Ron! I hear ya on the ponies...she's rated for 140 and i'm only running 1/2 of that with the original 70. She still scoots 30mph with 3 grown men & gear and does fairly well on fuel for an old egg beater. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for bait runs to take half as long but I have a soft spot for old iron & originality :)
Thank you for sharing! I just got a 16ft supersport, it's really similar. This is going to help me out lots in the near future.
You're welcome and congrats on your "new" boat! The SS16 is one of the most prolific and practical models on the planet! What are you powering it with?
Right now we have a 110hp merc 2 stroke. Maybe the year is 79? But I didn't check the serial number yet
Great job on boat !!
Thank you!
Methodically sounded restoration. I have a starcraft that is need of restoration and this video is amazing. I would love to have you all restore my boat. Thanks for sharing..
Thank you and you're welcome! I did this mostly solo (except for bucking rivets) over the course of 7 years....3 years of solid work with a relocation mixed-in. Take your time, plan things out and have fun! There's a group of us in the StarCraft section of iboats if you need any advice & encouragement.
@@classiccat7403 wow!! Again thank you for sharing!!!
Just got a ‘76 super sport 18 today, it needs the interior 100% redone like this one, but the hull and all the aluminum is solid. I was thinking about a 70 hp as well, makes me feel better seeing yours. I might just put a single side console I have on mine, I want lots of open room for fishing. Thanks for making this video, hopefully I won’t need to do so much aluminum fabrication on mine, it all looks pretty good, but now I know where to come get ideas if I do. Turned out phenomenal bud!
thanks man! Yeah man...if that hull isn't all cracked and corroded, you can turn these boats around pretty quick. Mine was like an onion...more I peeled, the stinkier it got. You're not going to break any sound barrier w/ a 70hp johnny-rude; I've touched 35 with a 17p prop. I've since dropped to a 15p and it just feels alot more responsive...lose a little on the top-end of course but I like running around 3/4 throttle. I'm really happy with it.
@@classiccat7403 I just got a 1977 85 hp for the boat, 100$ just needs the lower unit swapped and serviced, even came with the spare lower unit, 130+ on all cylinders. The old man ran it till last year, it stopped going in and out of gear so he bought a different motor cause he didn’t know how to fix it. A lot of saltwater use tho, but it doesn’t look too bad, I think he took care of it till he stopped using it then it just sat for a year...
@@classiccat7403 good advice on the prop, the one I have is really rough so I’ll probably replace that too if I can find one. I’m pretty good with 60s/70s 35hp and down, this is my first motor of that size group.
@@TheFrogfeeder wow that's a killer deal esp w/ good compression #'s! I've never worked on one of those old V4's. I've thought of getting a 115 or 140 as a back-up in case the 70 ever gave up the ghost. My next experiment with the 70 is raising it a bit to see if I can pull up the RPMs...i'm still running 5300 at WOT...200 shy of my goal :)
This restoration looks amazing, about to do the same
Thank you! good luck with your restoration!
Dude.... Next Level 4 sur ... Awesome job I believe you have raised the bar Heck I don’t wanna start on mine Lol.... Thanks Bro!!!
Very useful first class 1st time (the end)
Tight line’s & wet net’s
Thank you for the kind words Tracy! Yeah I went kind of extreme particularly on the wood sealing. There are alot of options for redoing a boat that are way more cost (and time) effective. If I were wanting to get on the water quickly and on the cheap, I'd seal (heavily) with a mixture of boiled linseed oil, mineral spirits and helmsman spar varnish (1part:2parts:1part; google "Old Timer's Formula")...then either paint or cover with vinyl. Tight Lines to you as well!
Absolutely amazing restoration! Anybody that does a slideshow-style video like this should watch and learn. I appreciate you captioning what each step was. Gorgeous boat!
Thank you and I appreciate your recognition of my captions! I'm hoping that the slideshow can serve as a how-to for folks taking a similar approach to bringing their old rigs back to life! Much of the damage that I uncovered is systematic to hulls of this era.
great job! be proud. I just bought a 93 starcraft superfisherman. Much better shape than that but i have yet to tear into it.
Thank you! Congrats on your new acquisition! I really like the structure and layout of those older SFMs. I knew the SS had issues...but didn't know the full extent until the she was gutted and bare.
Very cool boat
Thank you!
What a build . I’m going to pick up a Ss right now for 50 bucks !!!
thanks BYb! hard to haggle with that price! Does it come with an engine?
@@classiccat7403 135 hp Johnson
@@backyardbuilt4910 nice! if that old v4 runs, you made out man!
Dang that's something to be proud of. If you refinished the motor it would really pop.
thanks! I actually did a complete rebuild of the engine and touched-up the cowl. I couldn't find replica decals so I whipped out the wife's nail polish and touched-up the dings and scratches. you get a good shot of the leg/exhaust housing in the beginning of this video (I dig the OG '75 gold paint): czcams.com/video/wFz3DczpxE8/video.html
Awesome 👊
Thank you Clint!
You did an amazing job on this Starcraft!! If you want to do another one, I have a 1979 that I would like restored, just let me know!!
thank you so much Don! If I had the space, I'd love to have another project like this! Although if I had the space, I'd probably fill it with either a square body pickup or pre-74 Mopar 😁!!
You did a great job on this boat! I am restoring a 1974 Starcraft Super Sport, and I got a lot of good info from your video. Did you spray the interlux paint, or roll?
That's awesome Kyle! I'm glad you found it useful! I used a foam roller for the interprotect & primekote...you can get those rollers from home depot. For the top coats I roll with a redtree foam roller (expensive) and tip with a badger hair brush.
I have an 18.5 1975 Starcraft Supersport open bow with the 120 Mercruiser IO drive still in good shape due to low hours gold interior same outside color as your boat
that's a great combo! has the transom every been replaced?
Hey man, I want to congratulate you on this awesome restomod you did on a lovely StarCraft !
May I ask, did you happen to have 3 (almost entirely) vertical holes on both sides of the hull, around where the seats would have been originally for the open deck area, just before the console starts? I'm asking because I just bought a StarCraft Offshore, which seems identical to yours and there are 3 holes just above the "spray rails" on both sides of mine, but the guy removed everything up front at the bow, so I don't have any ideas as to what they could've been for. I'll be patching them, but I like to know why/how something exists xD blame my OCD!
Amazing job...I have done lots of similar work to my 16' starcraft but not nearly to the quality of craftsmanship you are capable of. Did you have to do alot of sanding to the 3/4" plywood sheets for the transom before adding the epoxy/fibercloth so that it wouldnt be too tight sliding in? How come nobody is painting their boats below the waterline anymore? Seems like a trend. Would you say rolling/tipping the interlux primer and paint is easier or harder than spraying with a hvlp? comes out better or worse? What is it you are you cutting the wood out of the deck where you will be placing fasteners into and replacing the void with epoxy so that you are drilling/screwing into that as opposed to any wood?
Thanks Austin! I didn't have to do any sanding for fitment even with the added thickness of fiberglass/epoxy. If you're concerned with your lamination, maybe make a test piece to check the kneebrace & side mounts. If you're glassing, make sure you check the wood before glassing in case you do need to sand; you don't want to grind through your epoxy/glass. Yeah a few of us kept the lower halves naked...it's really nice not caring about dock rash, scratched paint, etc. The primary reason that I didn't use HVLP is that I don't having proper PPE (fresh-air supplied respirator). Spraying most 2 part paints or acrylic enamel with isocyanate-based hardener can mess you up if you're not careful. Making epoxy plugs is essential if you want to protect your deck. Drill an oversized hole, chamber both sides with a unibit so that the plugs are locked in place and can't fall out.
Thx
I am currently restoring my ‘76 SS, and absolutely loved your video! Thank you for the video. Do you have any recommendations for replacing fuel tank ? I currently have a 12 gallon sitting on top of the floor under the splash well like yours, but wanted to get a bigger tank. I saw one from Moeller, 18 gallon belly shape that can go below deck. I believe the demensions fit.
Thank you and Good luck with your restore! Regarding fuel tanks, I'm not a fan of belly tanks unless you can access them (and remove ) without tearing apart the deck. Over in the starcraft section of iboats (or facebook), you can search (or ask) what folks recommend but usually it requires them to elevate the deck to accommodate the tank and connections. I personally like being able to pop the tank out if I need to fully drain/service, etc.
Couple more questions about this build(probably not my last couple). 1.Why the extra vertical risers behind the interior side panels? 2.What is the rational behind all of the additional spray rail bracing? Both took a lot of extra time and effort so you must have thought it important. My 74 Holiday has none of that bracing that you added and just a couple risers just like yours when you started so its relevant to my current situation.
my outer chine was already compromised resulting in rib-end cracks at the 1st set of rivet holes. if I were to do it again, I'd only add the vertical risers + big plates and skip doing the smaller reinforcement panels for the spray rail that disturbed the double-rivet seam (they were leaky on me until I sealed with G-flex). If you have alot of questions, I might suggest reviewing some of the completed builds and maybe even starting a thread on the starcraft section of iboats! forums.iboats.com/forum/starcraft-boats.131/
What kind of door tracks did you use. The slider doors. I’d like to build doors on mine also.
The tracks were original to the boat. Since yours is missing, you can always rig something up using aluminum U channel or angle. good luck!
Did u use 5/8 plywood for the transom?
3/4 for floor?
The transom is 1 1/2" thick (2 x 3/4" laminated together then glassed). The main/lower deck is glassed 1/2". The raised bow deck is glassed 3/4".
Hello Sir
I really enjoyed the restoration of the starcraft boat, I'm in the process of a restoration of a starcraft mariner and was wondering if you had any information on the 18 gallon fuel tank , make ,model were it can be purchased from.
Thank you
Thank you Gary! I'm glad you enjoyed it! The tank was original to the boat and I wouldn't recommend using it since it does permeate some vapor; i'm looking to replace mine myself when the funds allow. Do you plan to put yours under the splashwell or center console?
Do you happen to have the measurements for the floor boards? Working on my 18ft StarCraft and I’m stumped at that right now. Thank!
sorry man, i didn't take measurements and my templates for finding the epoxy plugs through the vinyl got chucked. You'd be better off making alot of measurements (and "story boards" for the bow pieces) since yours may be different. What exactly has you stumped?
i have the same motor, i believe the previous owner adjusted the carbs where did you find the information to set your jets?
Hi Jacob, Great engines! The carbs on this engine are fixed jet; nothing to adjust. Make sure it's clean as a whistle & follow the factory service manual for doing link & sync. What a well-meaning (but ill-informed) PO can screw up is the timing; proper spark advance at idle through mid-range (until you hit the max advance stop) is critical for these engines to run right.
what kind of metal break did you use? Also what gauge aluminum were you bending for also those supports and brackets?
It was one from harbor freight. I can do about 3' sections in it. it can do 0.063" all day long...it gets a little tough on the 0.090" 6061 aluminum. 5052 is a piece of cake even at 0.090".
@@classiccat7403 do you think those harbor freight breaks can bend 1/8” aluminum?
@@PopPopJoe that might be a stretch depending on grade of aluminum; i'd make sure you're using 5052. you can make aluminum malleable by heating it up...i use the soap trick to avoid overheating...stop heating when the soap turns black on the other side.
Where did you get the Bimini top from. Nice looking boat.
Hi Felix, I got the bimini on Amazon. It's the Kingbird 3-bow. After 2+ seasons, I'm very happy with it!
That’s some nice work. I’ve got a similar project, and I’ve got to say that I’m really not a fan of the old mid sized 2strokes.
However the cost of newer four strokes,or efi.2stroke make me wonder. If a 90hp gas engine weighs 600 lbs. and gas totals 700+lbs, How much for a similar powered electric and a bunch of batteries ? Meh just a thought... nice boat.
Thanks! I can understand why folks might not like the old 2 smokes! I personally love their simplicity and reliability. The 3 cylinder OMC's have pretty good power to weight ratio...I believe the engine only weighs around 230#. The CMC adds another 50lbs or so. My only complaint with old 2 strokes is that you shouldn't idle them very long (things get fouled-up); all or nothing on the RPMs if you know what I mean.
What track system did you use?
They're regular old Bert's tracks. I've since added some to the gunnels...strong and versatile.
wtf....YOU HAVE TO HAD WORKED FOR A BOAT COMPANY OR STILL DO.......CRAZY SKILL'S & PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you! I've never worked for a boat company...boy talk about a dream job! I've read/studied a few books on boat construction and am an active member of iboats.com.
@@classiccat7403 AWESOME WORK 100% RESPECT
Did you grind the whole inside out?
Hi Jay, i scraped/chipped all of the epoxy that a P.O. smeared in there. then used an orange nyalox cup brush on a drill to clean up the corrosion...and a dremel to get into any shallow pitting. from there I did a careful acid wash of the pitted areas and smeared marine tex into the pits so they don't backfill with water down the road. Deep pits, i drilled a hole and plugged with a solid rivet if it was small...larger corroded areas got exterior patches smeared with 5200.
What foam did you use? Brand, etc....
Dow XPS (Extruded Polystyrene). It's a very dense closed-cell foam so it won't retain any water. avoid the EPS or worse, open cell styrofoam that came originally in these old boats.
@@classiccat7403 Thx. Did you order online or available at local major hardware or marine supply?
@@pedrobarrios2203 Not a problem! I got mine from a buddy with jobsite scraps but you can find it at your local big box store (lowes, home depot, etc.). Look for the Blue or Pink board and make sure it's XPS!
Where do u get the Rivets what company website do you order them from?
Hi Clint, it was awhile ago but I probably used jay-cee rivet sales (www.rivetsonline.com/)
what size bimini top length wise did you put on the boat? 6 or 8 footer?
6'L x 46"H x 67"-72"W
@@classiccat7403 Thanks. You did a great job on the boat. I may now have to restore my 79 StarCraft SS16'. I forgot to ask, does your motor have the power trim/tilt?
@@jimjohnson2576 thanks! 79 is a good year! Swoosh pattern on the side? I have CMC PT130 aftermarket power tilt for my 70hp...I absolutely love it!
@@classiccat7403 Thanks for the info!
Why was it so important to you to glass everthing that was wood? Wouldnt resin without glass have been enough?
Great Question! I'm surprised you're the 1st to ask! The glass does 2 things...the primary purpose is to prevent grain checking. No matter how much epoxy you pile on, grain checking will crack the epoxy (exposing untreated wood) if it doesn't have glass; it acts like rebar in concrete. Most won't see it b/c they cover the plywood in vinyl or carpet. The other thing it does is add strength. You'd swear you're walking on 3/4" PLY even though I used 1/2" PLY to keep weight down & console heights (and windshield alignment) the same. Here's a good read on all things epoxy: www.westsystem.com/wp-content/uploads/GougeonBook-061205-1.pdf
@@classiccat7403 Good info Thanks!
What was used to strip the bottom?
It was probably Zip Strip paint stripper but you don't see that too often in stores. It's a gel that you put down with a chip brush. Work in small sections and cover with plastic wrap so the solvent doesn't evaporate too fast. Lowes has a JASCO heavy duty gel stripper that seems to work well. I hear that the Rustoleum Aircraft Remover is also pretty good...never used it myself though.
Was this a salt water boat?
the P.O. said that it wasn't but there's a good chance it was used the Chesapeake...possibly by the original owner; I picked it up in Maryland.
What kind of rivets did u use
3/16" solid brazier head for the through-hull. A mix of 3/16" large flange and regular flange blind rivets for the deck. 5/32" blind rivets for the gunnel trim.
Top speed with the 70hp?
I've touched 35mph with a 17p prop. I've since dropped down to a 15p and she still hits 32pm at WOT.
Top speed?
Hi David, I've kissed 35mph (gps) with the 17p prop @ 5200 RPM. 32-33mph with with the 15p seems to be more repeatable. I just raised the O/B 1" but haven't been out since the adjustment..anxious to see if i pick-up anything!
FISH ON ..
BZZZZZ!
What did the restoration cost you?
You must be an engineer, because even though I am handy with pencil, paper and tools….I could never achieve the perfection you mastered.
I have a 1978 16ft SS with 70 mercury. I know it needs transom rebuilt, carpet inside and outside paint, etc.
Your video has me intrigued, yet frightened.
Thanks for the diarrhea!
You're welcome for the diarrhea lol! I never tallied up the total cost...probably ~ 5k including the initial purchase (that's the number I'll tell my wife if she ever asks.) It was spread over the course of a few years so it didn't burn too bad. Paint (Interlux system), epoxy/fiberglass were the 2 larger costs (probably around $1200 combined)...and well worth the expense. Tinned wire & cable is pretty pricey as well. She has quite a few trips under her belt, alot of good fish hit her deck and she still cleans-up like new. Good luck with the resto! check out the Starcraft section of iboats.com. We're still pretty active over there helping others w/ their restorations!
@@classiccat7403 thanks for getting my joke.
Sanding my 1978 16ft now. Guy I bought it from camo’ed it out.
Even for this Okie, was hideous!
Going to primer, then white with blue like the original colors.
And it needs 100 other things. But…it floats and runs.
Great Job but damn that music needs to go
🤣i know man...it's bad. it gets in your head and stays there.