Pep Guardiola's Tactic in Football Manager
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It has been a long time coming to make tactical guides. I am planning some collaborations between myself and people who have been making these sorts of FM tactic videos for years, so that is something to look forward to, but for now I was determined to find Pep’s exact tactic in Football Manager 2022. I played matches over and over and over trying to get those Man City boys playing the right way and I think we finally got it for FM22.
The trick is slowing down too much can be a problem and creating the right kind of fluidity on FM tactics that Pep Guardiola is able to bring to his teams. This is not a tactic that would work with every team, you need intelligent, technical players to execute the fluidity to your advantage and not to the other team’s. There’s nothing more appealing in Football Manager than a team that is moving out of your way and inviting your attack in. So, make sure you’re not that team, but if you think you have the guys for it, go dominate FM with this tactic.
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this should become a series! trying to emulate certain manager’s tactics through fm (klopp’s gegenpress, fergie’s 06-09 team, johan cruyff’s ajax and barca sides, obviously they’re not going to be perfect but it’d be so cool to see)
And if he could roleplay the managers would be perfect
@@Jerbball. god i’d love to see him in fergie’s coat, with glasses. sir alex zealandson
@@Jerbball. I don't think you can throw hair dryers in fm
Steve Bruce's 'Bruceball' would be excellent!
@@ImmuneGEORGE ”brexit-ball” with ”Zean Dyche”
Therapist: "Zep Guardiola isn't real, he can't hurt you."
Zep Guardiola:
Interesting vid, if I had one criticism it would be that Kyle Walker doesn't overlap or get down the wing really that often. He plays inverted and tucks in basically to the right of Rodri. He'd be IWB-De I reckon.
His job is to recycle possession and stops counters.
Cancelo is the full back with lots of freedom.
I think that is more older school Pep so probably more what he did initially with City and for a long term with Barcelona. Currently City (and most of last season) are playing with actual Wingers IMO, with a double no.8 pivot that tries to get into the box, with basically a false 9, so that is why you have the likes of Silva and last year Gundogan scoring lots of goals. So you play wide with attacking wingers (who also will still get into the box, and obviously IRL Mahrez when he plays there still comes inside a lot, but he starts very wide) and then have runners from deep in midfield, with a midfielder holding (so could be DLP or Half back, one of the 'hold position' DMs), and then two inverted wing-backs. So what you get then is in possession the wingers very wide, two no.8s bursting into the box past the 'false 9' (could use CF on support, DLP, false 9, treq etc. depending on your striker) and then essentially in possession a 3 in the middle holding things, with the two inverted wingbacks who basically go sit next to the DLP. In this years FM inverted wingbacks seem to basically sit more in midfield like proper midfielders. I also have one of the inverted wingbacks on attack, to try to create the 'Cancelo' of real life City, so you can actually end up with a 3rd deep runner midfielder who breaks the lines, which then leaves a 'box' of the DLP, the other inverted wingbacks and the two centre-backs. That box should protect you from counter-attacks and help you recycle the ball keeping possession, with obviously the forward line all working hard to counter press as well.
This > Zealand sorry
I agree that their wide players are wingers. He said they've been playing a 442 recently which is slightly wrong. They defend in a 442 but when they attack it's more like a 235 with the 2 central defenders, 2 inverted fullbacks and the holding midfielder and the 5 is made up of the f9, 2 wingers and midfielders surging forward
Zealand doesn't understand actual football, it shows a lot in multiple videos.
@@Jur1_00 Yeh especially with Cancelo, who is very aggressive in his inverted role often breaking forward to get shots in from the edge of the box and running past the midfielders. Walker tends to sit more conservatively near Rodri so like I said you have that defensive box in the middle of the CBs, DM and right IWB, which protects them on the counter.
Not exactly traditional wingers. The wingers usually hug the touchline but when they get on the ball the cut inside and run at the defense they dont try to take it to the byline like traditional wingers. Great examples would be grealish or mahrez
Zealand, City's wingers play really high and wide and the full backs stay inside and don't overlap at all. The Full-backs should be IWB's, the wingers should have instructions to stay wide. Rodri being a Halfback is spot-on though
I think Zealand was trying to replicate the philosophy more so than the exact execution. I do agree though, perhaps walker as a FB or even WCB to recreate that 3 back feel with cancelo as an IWB so he supports rodri in that DM role while KDB and silva join the attack.
In the tactical breakdown videos I watched they would do this sometimes, kind of alternating (the fullbacks I mean) that’s why I tested it out but found for a basic formula having them set the width that pep loves to switch too was better for FM
I've watched a few Pep recreations or tactical analysis and they have said that last season Pep deployed IWB, but not this season. I think the reason why Pep is so good is because he can quickly find a system that is highly successful and then adapt it later to counter managers getting a bead on him and be able to beat the team.
Cancelo doesn't do that though, he's usually the wide player on the left with Bernardo Silva dropping into the double pivot. This is new for this season.
This is something Pep has done in different ways based on who he has. I would personally have this done asymmetrically, with an IWB on one side with a winger in front, and the attacking CM play on the same side so the IWB has space to move into. And then a traditional wingback with the supporting CM and the playmaking/scoring inside forward (choose your preferred flavor) on this side.
That would replicate his Bayern and Barca versions. And the patterns he has when injuries aren't limiting choices, imho.
Would love to see this as a series. Great job Z!
This was brilliant. Well done. I’d love to see a series on manager styles being replicated in FM, would be a great watch.
Good job Zea!
Loved the vid, those little animations are sick
I love the positional play concept. Watched Tifo's video on it and watching Pep's teams throughout the years it's a wonderful watch. I have always had a tough time replicating Guardiola's tactics into FM. I am going to download this tactic and see what I can do. Thank you Z.
This video man me completely rethink how I had been utilizing my tactics with my wing play. It allowed me to take out some premier league sides in cup competition as a league 1 team by giving my players more passing options and pressuring their backline.
For me goalkeepers listened to me more when they had to distribute slowly, feels like distribute quickly overwrites distribution target. That's my impression
Yeah you're right
I have my keeper on SW Def with roll it out and slow it down. And, he still decides to hoof the ball down the park. I have to repeatedly tell him that because Ederson does it very well, doesn't mean you can.
"Play short, simple passes" training? At this point, that's all I've got.
not really cos i have my settings on distribute quickly and my keeper does it, though i have activated the roll it out option
I completely agree. Whenever I use "distribute quickly", my goalie just kicks it all the way to the opponent's half 8 times out of 10. "Distribute slowly" allows the team to settle down and correct their shape which in turns helps the goalie to play the instructed pass.
love this type of in depth content! Found it way easier to make nice 325 shapes in FM this year, definitely an improvement from the previous years.
Wow. Great study, great video, thanks so much!
Love this style of video! For a 442, i'd almost be tempted to go strikerless 442 for what Pep has been playing this season. I'd have the wide mids stay wide and have inverted fullbacks though. I think with this, you'd be more able to keep the balance and have that front 4 pressing you wanted
Once I would really love to see an ultra defensive tactic that works in FM. For example, in the first leg of a UCL semi-final I won luckily 2:0 with my poor team against an elite club. It would be interesting to know how can I preserve this lead going in the second tie without the obvious plug-and-play counter pressing style.
low block and negative tactics don't seem to do great in FM, nor pure counter attack tactics. the ME still seems to work best with very attacking tactics with lots of press or more that the AI just doesn't exploit those tactics very well and gets overloaded easily.
@@tajj7 that's not entirely true, I'll give it to you that they are difficult to create but it's not impossible. I've committed to playing only low block tactic this year because people always say they don't work and I'm having success with it but you need players who can defend
@@Jur1_00 The other thing is we tend not to build for it also like if i was forced to play super defence formation i feel like i would want big players everywhere minimum 15 tackling on most players with great jumping and marking and passing for counters. lb ,cb , cb, rb, dm all have to have maybe 16+ tackling marking and positioning since we have to tackle well as were not pressing.
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In one video you have made me realise that just because I've put thousands of hours into FM, does not make me fully understand what I'm doing 😅 great deep dive into tactics, I really enjoyed it having a specific focus. It made it a lot easier to comprehend than say a breakdown of all the different tactics/positions/roles/instructions that you can utilise in FM. I for one would definitely love to see more real world manager tactics emulated!!!
would love to see more of these kinda videos
Great Video! love to see this for Conte’s as well becoming a series. Keep it up Z
Loving this content
Love this, so good!!
We need one for Sean Dyche right now
ngl I thought of doing this myself in FM and the player roles align close to what I would do. everytime i see a tactic, my first thought is how it would be replicated in FM, a lot of the time it's hard to do but well done Zealand
Very intriguing guide, nice one Zep!
Quite possibly the best tactic video I’ve had the pleasure of watching
Thank you for the video, worked for my current 2028 City game, with different players.
Fantastic choice of shirt! Coming from Liège, it's nice seeing some Standard visibility outside of the country!
Great stuff. Would watch the series! One vote here for Simeone next, or Mourinhos Inter. Nice little jab at City's UCL failure at the end.
Great video Z! I have had a lot of luck with GKs and CBs not hoofing the ball up the field when I don't have play out of the back on. Keep short passes on but seems like they try those killer balls a lot more with play out from the back on
This is exactly the type of content im looking for. Learning and analyzing irl football and trying to replicate it in an amazing game
Ayal Amazing job on intro 🤣 and editing! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great video and amazing work!! Tuchel's tactic or any type of 3 at the back tactic or guide would be awesome
Closest that I have seen in a long time. Those third man runs from the CMA 😍
Great idea for a series. Can't wait to see your interpretation of Arrigo Sacchi's Milan :)
to get more out of high pressing, dont use prevent short GK kicks.
when pressing high you want the opposition to play out of defence and in my experience it works better when you lower the line of engagement to high and use very high backline to keep the team compact, and of course the highest setting on press.
Dead ball turnovers vs live ball turnovers, super interesting and never really thought about that. My biggest learning of that video! 12:40
I agree. It is amazing that you can encourage a team to play for set pieces (dead ball turnover, I guess) but you then let the opposition reorganise as well. That's why quick free quicks should be allowed more often.
Brilliant tactics. Ported over almost seamlessly to my Newcastle save with Declan Rice in the DM role and Gravenberch as the attacking CM.
I'd love to see liverpool as I love how we play and I usually try it myself. I like how u mention the nuances u need to change against different team types it's something I need to do more
Excellent video Zealand. I have watched a number of tactic recreations from other contributors and yours has the added bonus of explaining how the various roles work and why you chose them. I have found though that replaying matches the results are rarely the same if you don't change the tactic. For example, I won a difficult match and the computer crashed before I could save my progress. When I played the match again, I didn't do so well. As I was rather irritated that I was robbed of a good victory, I replayed the match until I got the result I wanted. It took about 4 replays to win. So, you may have found that if you had left your tactic and roles as they were, you may have had different results anyway. So, if you lost against Brentford in your first play through, you may have beaten them 5 times if you replayed it unchanged. I hope you are encouraged to do more of these types of videos.
Beautiful tactic man, since I don't have a player capable of playing CF I play a DLF. Loving it
As a City fan this was a great video and one that came in time for xmas use thanks
i had some luck on fm21 creating something very similar but the whole point was that I had this incredible regen that was basically a huge athletic regista who could defend very well and I had him play as libero on support . He was kind of a fabinho but with like 17 jumping reach\strenght\passing\vision and 11ish accelleration ( but somehow 14ish speed&agility) .He created all sort of triangles everywhere in the filed , very pep-ish . Him plus 2 inverted wingbacks. The team was crazy good so naturally I won a lot but it was a real pleasure to watch to be honest
Great video Zealand, I will try out the tactic as I am doing a Barcelona re-build whilst trying to clear the billion pound debt. If you want to learn about creating peps pressing have a look at a video that daljit at bustthenet has done on pressing traps, he’s done one with Bayern and it seems to make a lot of sense. You just have to think about where you want to force each player to go or pass to.
Been using this tactic for a Sunderland save , game is two years in I've mostly a league one squad and in year one I won League one and in year two I'm second in the championship with two months to go, highly recommended tactic 👍
Great video Zealand
This video was so good
You can also somewhat overcome roles with PPMs, so for example the half back, you want him to like you say drop in between the centre-backs, which is the only role that does it, BUT you also want someone who is progressive with their passes so will take a few more risks at times, dictate the tempo, switch play etc. a bit like a playmaker, so you can achieve those by making sure the person has those sort of PPMS to do the other stuff you want them to do with the ball, with the 'role' more dictating their positional play. Like really in an aggressive pressing/passing tactic a regista or DLP support works really well IMO how you want them to be on the ball, and threading those passes through to the deep runners or the wingers in the channel, but that role tends to have them push too far forward or get out of position. Shame we don't get carte blanche to edit roles completely.
More of this please Zealand
You must make this a series 👍🏻
Great video really interesting
Great work Z
I used to play short or very short passing and a low tempo and somehow my team played very well, because having possession made them play confident. If I then struggle ingame I just higher the tempo and as a last stroke higher the passing
I adjust passing tempo and risk to game state. I'll move the ball quicker early to try to get the 1st goal and unsettle the opposition. Once we have a lead, or if we're not keeping the ball well, I'll drop tempo. If we're losing, I'll increase risk via mentality.
Awesome stuff!! Conte next please!
You also have to IMO accept the game engine for what it is and that you have to do certain things to 'game' the system. Balls in behind to lone strikers IMO are still very strong in this years ME (due to weird CB behaviour) so I almost always have pass into space on and crosses are very effective.
Please post more content like this
Great vid thanks
Would defenitely be awesome to see you replicate Ten Hag’s Ajax from this 21/22 season 🙏🏻
would love to see your take at tuchels tactics! i find them really interesting, but at the moment the midfield feels kind of broken on FM22 when i try to replicate. All tactics are learnt "fluid" but CMs are always awkward in terms of positioning and duty. And this is after 3 seasons of training it
The CM (Central Midfielder on support) position role is very underrated but extremely effective role in fm.
great work
Would love a video about Klopp's liverpool this was fantastic
I would love to see a recreation of Ancellotti's tactics when he was at *gasp* Everton!! Yes, I am an Evertonian from Nebraska. No, I don't hate Carlo for leaving us for one of the world's top clubs! Which of us would not have made that choice??
often times city dont use rodi between the centre backs to create overloads, they instruct ederson to come forward and bernarno drops into a double pivot with rodri, then bernardo recieves the ball in the right back/right centre back area of the pitch this would be used against brentford if they play 532 with a low block
also to truly implement peps tactics on fm they need to introduce a feature where you can turn player traits on and off for each match
Dlp (d) will also drop between cb if you have play from defense and stay wider for both cb, mental atributes, comes deep to get the ball and play from defense also help with that, stones or laporte can do really well on that dlp role for that tactic (or as libero on attack wich Is pretty much the same as a dlp/hb)
Agree with everyone this should be a series. Recreating other manager tactics..
Awesome video Z. Can you make one for Chelsea?
please do more of these, all the famous managers, sir alex, klopp ect
Love the Standard Kit! Why not a series with them?
Hey Zealand, where did you get your player faces from? Keep up with these great vids!
I discovered that playing with lower tempo and very short passing helps with not letting players get too tired too rapidly and still win a lot of games
hey Z. First and foremost, up the dorfers. Second, is there any information on how the youth ratings change during the saves? Is there a way to check other than the editor and has there been any confirmation of it changing? i didn't find anything that showed that t changed so who better to ask than Zep Guardiola itself. Love the videos and the streams specially, keep it up and happy festive season to the team
I hope you can do Simiones 442 that he used to use as it was a defensive beast and FM is normally all about ATK so would be interesting
You should do Oles tactical masterclass at united next
Yesss, De-depress
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You should do a tactical video about Bodø/Glimt, very interesting & entertaining team from Norway.
liverpool tactics would be really interesting to see, they’re an absolute powerhouse in my save going unbeaten all season
I really hope this becomes a series, Z. I know you've been unsure about it, but the way you describe your thought processes AND how that translates to the roles you've used is a tactical class all on its own. So even you _don't_ fully represent tactics in FM, you're teaching us all how to think our way through creating the tactics we want.
That is amazing...
Idk why iwb and mez was a problem, maybe because in tests you used Mez on s. I tried to tweak the Pep tactic from one if the best SI forums article ive seen that tried to emulate Pep in 21 and it had iwbs and double mez at and it still works in 22 for me. Interestignly Poacher works insanely well with those tactics with strikers that are fast and like to break a line for example Victor Osmihen, Ben Sesko.
This year though my goal will be trying my damnest to try and emulate the Pep 442 that looks like one of hardest tasks because that front 6 rotates everywhere 😭😭😭
I tried mez on attack too but it’s possible specific personnel made it less effective
@@ZealandonYT thats fair. Its prob due to my wingers being quite different to yours. I ran double IWs on stay wider and because i run double look for underlap they behave more like classic wingers and also drop quite deep to give space to mezzalas runs. With my Napoli and later Rennes save guys like Eljif Elmas, Piotr Zielinski, Lovro Majer and tailored to that role Pedro Goncalves performed good to Serie A POTY level (for Pote) often abusing rcm run forward due to opening created by the left side overload.
Nice video, very helpful. Can you please replicate the Guido Brepoels system that he used to get STVV promoted in 2009 and get to the top of the league the next season?
Nice Standard shirt. In Belgium we add the word "low" infront of it tho :p
Toughest thing to recreate in a Pep tactic in FM is the pressing and your attacking wingers staying wide. The match engine just doesn't allow players to stay out wide and only way to have width higher up the pitch is with your fb's, but this then makes you fragile. Best way I've managed to recreate a Pep 'style tactic is using IWB's with the left on support as Cancelo role and the right on defend in the Walker role. With fb's too high you're far too fragile. I just try look to overload early and win the 2nd ball. Have the left CM pushed up as a SS on roam and wide, marking the CM on his side, other CM on support with get forward and get in channels and DM on anchorman. As you say, so difficult to replicate Pep in the ME but that's how I recreate it.
Would love to see legendary tactics of greatest manager of all time big sam
I hope they’ll be able to bring in a much more advanced pressing system at some point in the future - it’s too basic as it is at the moment, particularly relative to how advanced the rest of the game is getting. At least be able to set up proper pressing chains and determine whether particular players are pressing the ball or pressing the passing lanes. It’s such an important part of football now that I think we need more flexibility than what is basically how fast they do something resembling pressing as it is now.
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Watching your videos has actually made me play FM again after a good few years. Thank you for the inspiration and thanks for the awesome content!
You use a lot basketball language in football and I love it lol
Really cool
Oh god this is working wonders for my Barça team. I got Messi back for free in my save. My midfield is Bellingham on the left cm (support), Messi cm (attack) and Nico/De Jong behind them as a a Regista. Messi is so good as a CM it’s ridiculous.
*insert audience applause GIF* brilliant video
Hey z, got an idea, why don't you make a series about reviewing major league team with their strengths and weaknesses to help newer players coming into FM 2022? Thanks!!
I enjoy trying to make lower ability and lower level teams play possession and attacking based play as it is satisfying to see it at the smaller clubs but at some point I expect I’ll try to play less that way at a club someday. So in short Zealand, I will play this at a low level team in spite of what you say lol
This made me feel great to see how similar my city tactics is to his lol
Hey Zealand, if I was to do this exact build with City, what signings and releases do you suggest I make to become a super power? Coming someone who is dreadfully bad at FM
Looking forward to this series and if you could replicate Bruno Ball given the wolves save
About your problem with the keeper distributing the ball anywhere and taking to many long kicks.
The distribution type says who the keeper is allowed to distribute the ball to while "distribute to position" tells the keeper which players he should prefer from all the options he is allowed to play the ball to. So telling the keeper to distribute the ball to the centerbacks marks them as his first option but with "take short kicks" he is still allowed to distribute the ball anywhere except for to the Target Man and playing long balls over the opposing defense line.
So you should always chose "roll it out" if you want your keeper to distribute the ball short because with that option the only players he is allowed to play the ball to are the centerbacks, the wingbacks and the defensive/zentral midfielders.
Im playing a Sweeper Keeper on defend with the PI less risky passes plus the TI to roll the ball out and its working great.
that opening frame was absolutely terrifying
Try clicking off counter, for the GK. I think that might make it better.I have like 3 GK assists This season for my tottenham save. Seems GK are keen on setting up asissts this year
In my career, I put my GK to roll it out so we play from the centre backs or full backs, but sometimes when he doesn't have another option he just kicks it
The 4-3-3 with a defensive midfielder is my go-to tactic in pretty much every situation. Very versatile.
Same. I use other systems, but it's always my default. Mainly because it's the formation with the most passing triangles.
Hey Zealand, did you use any OI's with this tactic?
Do Marcelo BIelsa's! Cool series incoming!