Fixing Your Bad Tactics (with Tom)

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2022
  • In honor of Tom going full time - we hopped on Reddit and decided to help people that were asking for Tactic help! We have a combined three streamer showdown titles and have a lot of experience playing Football Manager at a high level. I will be sure to link my FM resume below to justify me doing this. Tom just has great vibes so you probably don’t need his resume, but if you want his links to great FM videos I will provide those below as well.
    I wanted this tactic saving process to be anonymous. I feel like if I ask for these sorts of Football Manager videos I can get innundated with people that just want to be in a video. Don’t get me wrong, that’s really cool, but these people posted on Reddit specifically asking for help and I just brought Tom around to help them out. Who doesn’t want to have fun breaking down Tactics on FM? It’s certainly more fun then using them in a match only to get FM’d anyways.
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Komentáře • 142

  • @TomFM
    @TomFM Před rokem +753

    Thanks for having me on, Ze! Tactics are my passion, coming last in streamer showdowns is my hobby.

    • @georgeradford-evans415
      @georgeradford-evans415 Před rokem +2

      Great to see you in this vid Tom!

    • @alehlete830
      @alehlete830 Před rokem +1

      Tooooooooooommmmmmtooooooooom

    • @meowwww9275
      @meowwww9275 Před rokem +14

      You did a great job pretending you know what you are talking about mate, Ze really wanted you to play that role and you smashed it tbf.

    • @benwilliams8667
      @benwilliams8667 Před rokem +1

      Would love to see u guys do more of these!

    • @2639theboss
      @2639theboss Před rokem +1

      Itd be great to see this become a semi-regular collab, (even once a month or once every other month), i dont see a ton of tactic feedback on youtube for FM.

  • @benjohnstone4100
    @benjohnstone4100 Před rokem +54

    Came here for the memes, disappointed to only find tactics

  • @masterwesty
    @masterwesty Před rokem +65

    An old team mate of mine was 6’8” and could throw the ball to the other keepers hands. It was crazy to see.

    • @Nick-ht5yi
      @Nick-ht5yi Před rokem +2

      Throw the ball?

    • @masterwesty
      @masterwesty Před rokem +2

      @@Nick-ht5yi thanks, don’t know how I done that.

    • @Nick-ht5yi
      @Nick-ht5yi Před rokem

      @@masterwesty np i was just mad confused for a sec

    • @linkuppodcast9999
      @linkuppodcast9999 Před rokem

      Hi there FM Fans! BIGGEST Teams in the SMALLEST Leagues! Check out or channel for the video!!!

  • @JLABTV
    @JLABTV Před rokem +45

    Alright, pinching that idea of putting the training rating in the starting lineup. Never considered that before. Looks like you both had a blast. It would be cool to see more collaborations between the two of you in the future.

  • @pascal6871
    @pascal6871 Před rokem +130

    I used force opponents inside when both of my best CD were terrible at heading and they were scored on 1-2 headers from open play per game. The force opponents inside stopped that almost entirely.

    • @Cowboy.J
      @Cowboy.J Před rokem

      I sometimes force inside when I only have 1 player in the wide areas.

    • @leonemitchell1816
      @leonemitchell1816 Před rokem +1

      Yes thats what it means. If you force outside they will cross more when inside they won't be able to cross

    • @pascal6871
      @pascal6871 Před rokem +5

      @@leonemitchell1816the in-game description says something else. The assman kept screaming at me every game that we get scored on from the centre of the pitch. It said something like "this instruction is only good if the center is good". It's actually the opposite in my opinion

    • @leonemitchell1816
      @leonemitchell1816 Před rokem +3

      @@pascal6871 yeah the in game description are wrong for 90% of the instructions. What you expect them todo and what it says is different from what actually happens

    • @linkuppodcast9999
      @linkuppodcast9999 Před rokem

      Hi there FM Fans! BIGGEST Teams in the SMALLEST Leagues! Check out or channel for the video!!!

  • @sludgybudgy3785
    @sludgybudgy3785 Před rokem +15

    I'm getting a sense of deja-vu

  • @pwalmsley9
    @pwalmsley9 Před rokem +12

    Linked to what Tom said about training rating - on the tactics screen if you minimize the tactic with the double-left arrow in the top left corner, you get more information about your lineup. That includes a picture of each individual player's tactical familiarity in the system as well as their recent workload. I've found this super helpful recently to get an idea of where things might be falling down from an individual player understanding perspective.

  • @PTGMelo
    @PTGMelo Před rokem +13

    Tom is a lovely guy, great video guys

  • @PvtVallen
    @PvtVallen Před rokem +38

    Ive been looking forward to this zealand memes video

  • @sinful9347
    @sinful9347 Před rokem +14

    Was just watching a TomFM video, then went to a Zealand video, and this popped up.. absolute scenes.

  • @williamdodds2088
    @williamdodds2088 Před rokem +45

    Real ones have already seen this

    • @Beyondultragaming
      @Beyondultragaming Před rokem +1

      Yes 😂

    • @johnellisbushbush
      @johnellisbushbush Před rokem

      Half of it before it was yeet’d

    • @man4437
      @man4437 Před rokem +3

      Did anyone actually have time to watch it? I saw the first 3 mins

    • @TomFM
      @TomFM Před rokem +9

      Can't believe they censored me!

    • @JackoVX
      @JackoVX Před rokem

      @@man4437 Somehow i watched most of it.

  • @stonywings5888
    @stonywings5888 Před rokem +19

    9:00 I can vouch for Karabec! Got the guy in my Stabæk save, and he is a really nice player! Scores and assists consistently

    • @filipvacek2893
      @filipvacek2893 Před rokem

      Yeah, but not realistic, he’s the most overrated wonderkid ever, he aint even playing in Czech league and his atittude is poor

  • @RyanJones-nv5pq
    @RyanJones-nv5pq Před rokem +2

    No nonsense centerback on Eric Garcia is hilarious

  • @RUSHLAD98
    @RUSHLAD98 Před rokem +7

    Surely the playmaker in the first tactic is one of the BPD

  • @subhrodeepghosh5639
    @subhrodeepghosh5639 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the tips Zealand! I am snaccident btw, I had made a follow up post and got a lot of positive feedback on that!

  • @beardedeagle2023
    @beardedeagle2023 Před rokem +2

    Yess you two are fun together

  • @XPL80
    @XPL80 Před rokem +9

    The last one can absolutely work with other dm roles. A regista and a segundo volante would do it. Lines are tough though

    • @Josh-cm9jw
      @Josh-cm9jw Před rokem +1

      I'd be tempted to just bring the wingers back and that would effectively give two banks of four. And then for playing out, you've got players closer to your defensive unit that can carry it to the guys up top

    • @thatissomeBS
      @thatissomeBS Před rokem +1

      @@Josh-cm9jw I was thinking just bring the SS back to a CM-At, in front of a DM-De, DLP-Su, then put the winger on the DM-De side on support (and maybe WB-At on that side as well).

    • @linkuppodcast9999
      @linkuppodcast9999 Před rokem

      Hi there FM Fans! BIGGEST Teams in the SMALLEST Leagues! Check out or channel for the video!!!

  • @Egong100
    @Egong100 Před rokem

    Ahh I see that we are bringing out old videos again XD I saw that faulty uppload!

  • @onyxmouth502
    @onyxmouth502 Před rokem +4

    Finally I can finish the vid

  • @Beyondultragaming
    @Beyondultragaming Před rokem +3

    Oh a new video. This video seems familiar. Where have i seen this before 🤔

  • @joachimlock3386
    @joachimlock3386 Před rokem +1

    My boi tom fm

  • @charlesfairs1427
    @charlesfairs1427 Před rokem +10

    That Tottenham tactic is stark raving bonkers, like I don't want to be a dick but surely if you know even a little bit about football tactics you can tell that's a disaster

    • @AdamSmith75th
      @AdamSmith75th Před rokem

      Yeah it’s…a disaster. I can only put to down to being new to the game?

    • @davereckoning9530
      @davereckoning9530 Před rokem

      @@AdamSmith75th And hey, the guy did submit it asking for help - shows he at least wants to learn.

    • @AdamSmith75th
      @AdamSmith75th Před rokem

      @@davereckoning9530 100%. We all have to start somewhere. I’m still learning about the game all the time

  • @i0ushephf
    @i0ushephf Před rokem +1

    Force inside of something I tend to try during matches if my defenders are overmatched by larger opponent strikers and their strategy is getting down to the byline and cross from there especially if I’m playing with 3 cm or cb (or even a 5-3-2)

    • @stefanbauer423
      @stefanbauer423 Před rokem

      All i read is that you wanna "force inside of something", and that you have "3cm".
      Lord have mercy

  • @harveycooper5098
    @harveycooper5098 Před rokem

    feeling some deja vu here

  • @dembadd5710
    @dembadd5710 Před rokem +2

    More videos with Tom

  • @dylanjones5572
    @dylanjones5572 Před rokem

    bro i swear i already watched this in the past

  • @toby3695
    @toby3695 Před rokem

    These memes are 🔥

  • @lmpeto94
    @lmpeto94 Před rokem +1

    They probably should have mentioned that you don't want to have "much shorter passing" if your midfield is essentially empty.

  • @laozor9862
    @laozor9862 Před rokem

    I'm feeling a glitch in the Matrix... something has changed

  • @TheBdougs
    @TheBdougs Před rokem +2

    8:32
    >Zealand mispronounces a pokemon name
    This is water starter erasure.

  • @goldbirdie
    @goldbirdie Před rokem

    Love Tom!

  • @itsmebubbadee5858
    @itsmebubbadee5858 Před rokem

    Zealand is so good Tom quit his job after this 😂

  • @Realest_United
    @Realest_United Před rokem +8

    That last tactic is mcfred over run in midfield at all times

  • @chepachem8351
    @chepachem8351 Před rokem

    Tomas is a beauty

  • @pbsmoothie7281
    @pbsmoothie7281 Před rokem

    I swear I saw this video the other day but then it disappeared while I was watching it!!!

  • @robertsurbrook5546
    @robertsurbrook5546 Před rokem

    heads up perusing is when you're carefully combing thru something

  • @conormore
    @conormore Před rokem

    The last one was 100% a troll lmao

  • @trayano
    @trayano Před rokem +3

    We've been here before

  • @stevenpearce8715
    @stevenpearce8715 Před rokem

    i found a tactic that helped me win the league on the 3rd attempt. high up field press (off side trap) with a 433 formation. Until the AI caught on i was getting 8-0s and 9-0s with a second rate striker who ended up top goal scorer. Switch between that and the 4231.

  • @headstart_0g517
    @headstart_0g517 Před rokem +1

    Wait, wasn't this uploaded like 2-3 days ago?

  • @theideaFactorymindset
    @theideaFactorymindset Před rokem +1

    I was struggling with 4-2-3-1 but now I'm the master of it beating man city 6-2 , my backs are in complete wing backs on attack one of my center defend are in central defend cover and the other is in ball playing defend my midfielder one is box box support and the other is in deep laying playmaker defend my attacking midfield is in attacking midfield support and my wingers are in inverted wingers attack my forward is an advance forward also my goalkeeper is in sweeper support and during preseason ensure your training are high so as the players can have a high tactical familiarity at a high level I'm using Newcastle united and the other thing find most suitable players especially in the middle field and the center back with a good speed and passing and your team should have a good work rate every player should start with 13 points of work rate when signing and a good team work because you need good patterns of good play so as the team cohesion goes high which will increase chances for the AI to fevour you to win most of games and buy players from team which play the same system in their club which were playing earlier this will make them to understand the tactics fast even if it is small but isn't a must, for example I bought some of the players from ajax which had been trained to play a high press and a high defensive line

  • @greyodocka9404
    @greyodocka9404 Před rokem +1

    i have this problem when i go to sporets interactice there are no folders and my game keeps crashing saying do u have the latest drivers but i have and unable to create crash dump directory

  • @Josh-eo6ut
    @Josh-eo6ut Před rokem

    Hi, he’s a video idea. how do you actually go about implementing your tactic on a new team if the team you are starting with don’t have the personnel to play how you want them too.

  • @tommerry487
    @tommerry487 Před rokem

    Never seen this before

  • @yourofficehealth
    @yourofficehealth Před rokem

    Hello Sir, I have a question about FM23 that I need some help with. Hopefully you will find the time the help me with the following issue.
    I love Guardiola football, as do most. So I wanted to create a tactic in which my players make a lot of third man runs. I tried to add more depth passes. But that didn't help a thing. Hopefully you have a good method for this.
    Can't regards,
    Kees

  • @FaraazAhmad
    @FaraazAhmad Před rokem

    I've never seen this video before

  • @jaydenevans6024
    @jaydenevans6024 Před rokem +1

    Are there any good tactics for Xbox??
    I’m using bala town and literally have the best team in the league but I can’t seem to win.

  • @jb0609
    @jb0609 Před rokem

    good video

  • @nwoguuu
    @nwoguuu Před rokem +4

    Playing football (manager) is simple, but playing simple football (manager) is hard
    - Johan Cruyff

  • @sld1776
    @sld1776 Před rokem

    The Arsenal 433 could be successful without a single player on attack. Wingbacks on support, DM on support, inside forwards on support would work in that setup with the Arsenal players.

  • @Denis-kl8ss
    @Denis-kl8ss Před rokem

    Hey, everyone! The thing is i know nothing about real football tactics etc 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-3. Which one is defending and which attacking. I dont even watch football that much, but i really do enjoy the game. I want to create working tactic but i feel like my lack of knowledge is the factor i cant do it. So where should i look?

  • @sirprintalot
    @sirprintalot Před rokem +4

    That first tactic, I would swap the BWM for a DLP, and the AP for an SS.

  • @jameswibberley7253
    @jameswibberley7253 Před rokem

    Hi Zealand i am forest in first season and struggling how do I get you to sort out my tactic

  • @BigMujK
    @BigMujK Před rokem +1

    Are asymmetric formations used well in real life? I can’t think of many

    • @db3nnet782
      @db3nnet782 Před rokem

      I don’t know why they’re acting like asymmetric formations are great, they’re literally pointless as that is the defensive shape only! The roles are the offensive so that formation would have been no different with the CF up top with the AF and the T out wide in a normal 4222

  • @haivu5971
    @haivu5971 Před 22 dny

    Have i just seen Eric Garcia on NCB

  • @jonssonftw
    @jonssonftw Před rokem +1

    Can someone tell me the origin of "el partido controversial" that these two always refer to when they play in the Showdown?

    • @erickmoreno7028
      @erickmoreno7028 Před rokem +3

      Basically they meet relatively often in the Showdown and there's always something that happens so that they never have a normal match. I don't know the exact examples but stuff like red cards and just in general added drama

    • @jonssonftw
      @jonssonftw Před rokem

      @@erickmoreno7028 thanks!!

  • @zinedin_vlogs328
    @zinedin_vlogs328 Před rokem

    I have a problem saving my tactic on fm22 I want to keep the same tactic when I move clubs but I’m not sure where to find save tactic and just reload it when I change clubs Can someone guide me how to do it.

  • @brunoquelhas8786
    @brunoquelhas8786 Před rokem

    My tactic is a secret 4x3x3. XD

  • @Jb33124
    @Jb33124 Před rokem

    I've been subscribed for months...
    Where's my cookie?!

  • @mikele6435
    @mikele6435 Před rokem

    I got a déjà vû :D

  • @DarthAnimal
    @DarthAnimal Před rokem

    00:18 so when are you collaborating with Kev, the man who won 7 showdowns?

  • @benhaney9629
    @benhaney9629 Před rokem

    Second one cracked me up... “Help I haven’t scored in five games and I have no idea why...”
    Um, try not playing super defensively? For starters?

  • @cpilkey2010
    @cpilkey2010 Před rokem

    The title says tactics but all I see are memes.

  • @Seth-cl6mh
    @Seth-cl6mh Před rokem

    w0oooooooooooooo

  • @guilhermenobrega2403
    @guilhermenobrega2403 Před rokem

    7:10 how can i see all this tactics?

  • @tsaageotrimm
    @tsaageotrimm Před rokem

    I've seen this before

  • @adambutterworth7608
    @adambutterworth7608 Před rokem

    I came here for memes.

  • @jonpaul3868
    @jonpaul3868 Před rokem

    Waiting Daljit from busthenet for colabs.

  • @rheapoop2304
    @rheapoop2304 Před 6 měsíci

    Actually Roll it down to mid is not that stupid as they come get the ball

  • @nomynomycocaine
    @nomynomycocaine Před rokem

    Can’t believe you were able to get Patrick Viera to come on

  • @kieronparr3403
    @kieronparr3403 Před rokem

    De ja vu

  • @lewisjohnson8977
    @lewisjohnson8977 Před rokem

    I have just been on the phone with UPS for an hour, they claim to have never received 192k cookie deliveries and even had the cheek to claim never to have heard of a Zealand Channon. Please could you chase?
    Kind Regards

  • @darrelldadams
    @darrelldadams Před rokem +2

    I generally don't like these "rate my tactic" videos , because I never see anybody ACTUALLY TRYING OUT THE TACTIC.
    I don't think using conventional wisdom alone is enough to evaluate tactics.

    • @timeandmoney84
      @timeandmoney84 Před rokem +1

      That's why Daljit (bust the net gaming) is the best in the community for tactics. He does a bring your tactic stream which I think is a really original idea

  • @leafgreene6014
    @leafgreene6014 Před rokem

    I want a cookie now

  • @moabi4158
    @moabi4158 Před rokem

    Hey Z can you analyse Richard Lewis's Ian Armani save on his yt channel, bro is in the mud maybe you can help.

  • @alexanderthomsen3833
    @alexanderthomsen3833 Před rokem

    This annoys me in the worst way, because attacking always does better than support for me, both attacking and defending

  • @drew3ism
    @drew3ism Před rokem

    I want my cookie! 🍪

  • @jamesego4750
    @jamesego4750 Před rokem

    Where’s my cookie??

  • @princewillmadugba
    @princewillmadugba Před rokem

    Don't mind me just here to steal tactics because I'm not creative enough

  • @barforkosh6372
    @barforkosh6372 Před rokem

    Simplel

  • @alanw083
    @alanw083 Před rokem

    OMG you guys would love my 3-1-3-1-2 system with nobody playing wide that won me the title with RB Salzburg. It's madness.

    • @dalnaldo
      @dalnaldo Před rokem

      to be fair, few systems would fail to win the league with rb salzburg. try the same system with a team like wacker, see if it holds up. best of luck

    • @alanw083
      @alanw083 Před rokem

      @@dalnaldo I used it with Blackpool in the Championship and finished 9th.

  • @connorseaturtle3162
    @connorseaturtle3162 Před rokem

    Everton coming from xbox player

  • @ElementryLennon
    @ElementryLennon Před rokem

    Careful Z, he might push NFTs on you

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay Před rokem +1

    if we all unsub and resub will we get a cookie?

  • @lulelulenzia1757
    @lulelulenzia1757 Před rokem

    Is this a guy who dont know for Roberto Carlos, Nesta, Figo itd...xD

  • @user-yf2xi1tk3d
    @user-yf2xi1tk3d Před rokem

    First! Hello!

  • @hendi5h
    @hendi5h Před rokem

    Having 2 fullbacks on support is good. Fight me

    • @AdamSmith75th
      @AdamSmith75th Před rokem +2

      It absolute can be…but paired behind 2 IW on support? Not so much

    • @davereckoning9530
      @davereckoning9530 Před rokem

      Here goes..... (1) Wide defenders play best for me on Auto, then their play adjusts as I adjust overall Team Mentality throughout the match.
      (2) An approach that's worked for me is wide defenders on Attack (or on Auto with team Mentality as Attacking) but coupled with a CDM as Deep Playmaker or Register. This can create a pattern of play where the opposition just can't get out - if they win back the ball they pump it out long and the DLP or Regista has choices about how to immediately resume the attack.
      Just saying. Not fighting, just playing really.

    • @AdamSmith75th
      @AdamSmith75th Před rokem

      @@davereckoning9530 I never use auto…I should try it more

  • @nat6sume
    @nat6sume Před rokem

    i see nothing

  • @1231yasin
    @1231yasin Před rokem

    Reupload :/

  • @bantu.s.sngqaleni1219

    So for the reward should i unsbscribe and then subscribe next vid

  • @kieronparr3403
    @kieronparr3403 Před rokem

    I'll be honest I miss 4 4 f'n 2

  • @anointingogalabu-maxwell4288

    Im unsubscribing and resubscribing. I'm waiting for my cookie. P.S. I stay in Nigeria so when you're coming make a vlog

  • @justflannel
    @justflannel Před rokem

    Can I get the cookie if I unsub and resub...?

  • @stianchrister
    @stianchrister Před rokem

    The "too many instructions" is the worst comment by FM content creators. It doesn't mean anything.