I Rate Twitter’s Tactics (With WorkTheSpace)

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  • čas přidán 27. 01. 2021
  • Football Manager has one great focus it seems - who has the best tactic. Well, I’ve assembled the great FM minds, or just Workthespace, to go over some Twitter tactics people believe have caused their FM21 success. We rate them on a scale from Knap to Doctorbenjy, so naturally, this is a very scientific tactical experiment. But thank you, for sending your tactics in, and letting us dive into our dos and don’ts for tactics in this newfangled match engine.
    This was a load of fun to do and we should definitely do it more. With football manager actually bouncing ideas off each other is really the best way to learn anyways. It is also very fun to make fun of Workthespace. If only for his tactic preferences. FM21 has changed the way we understand tactics in fm too, so expect more videos on tactics in the future. I am learning to study them more and continue to talk to people who make tactics as a pastime and have for over a decade. Hopefully, that is rubbing off on me. Enjoy!
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Komentáře • 161

  • @WorkTheSpace
    @WorkTheSpace Před 3 lety +457

    Thanks for having me on again, was a ton of fun to record and I think it comes across in the video! I'd like the issue a public apology to all the people who use matching right-back and left-back roles but you are boring people.

    • @danielpinks9205
      @danielpinks9205 Před 3 lety +2

      @@thethomascobbgroup5001 Dont dis Margherita

    • @EriksV99
      @EriksV99 Před 3 lety +3

      @@thethomascobbgroup5001 Vanilla ice cream is fire, wym

    • @KonanFailsAtLife
      @KonanFailsAtLife Před 3 lety +1

      I'm being personally attacked by my streamer widepeepoSad

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 Před 3 lety +4

      I almost never use the same mentality on both. And I like asymmetrical build-up play because it draws defenders out of shape.
      But I have used a Libero this year. On attack duty. It's like a Segundo Volante who covers defensively. The tactic I used it with, a 5212, created 4 more chances per game. And it ate 4231s and 433s for breakfast. It struggled vs 442. Which makes no sense, as it dealt with wide players in the other formations. But I replaced it with a 442 diamond because I had to sell the libero.

    • @Cedisdead
      @Cedisdead Před 3 lety +1

      Like you dont understand people who play Real Madrid I dont understand people who play the same premier league every game it must be really boring xD

  • @BassyBoy
    @BassyBoy Před 3 lety +273

    The chemistry between you is so good and natural.

  • @deanmiller6463
    @deanmiller6463 Před 3 lety +177

    Feels like two old men sitting on the porch.

    • @deanmiller6463
      @deanmiller6463 Před 3 lety +8

      "Back in my day as a young manager I used to have a DM on defending."
      " I heard they use HB's now."
      "Well chap that's how it goes."

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 Před 3 lety +1

      Hey! I feel targeted! And I'm not 6'3" tall.

    • @deanmiller6463
      @deanmiller6463 Před 3 lety

      @@shawngillogly6873 you're not?
      Cross em off the scouting list guys

    • @aw2584
      @aw2584 Před 3 lety

      Its two old men sitting in front of their computers so not far off

  • @romapires
    @romapires Před 3 lety +150

    11:05 Distribute to playmaker
    11:07 has no playmaker on the pitch

  • @ImmaterialDigression
    @ImmaterialDigression Před 3 lety +125

    Yes! Please do more with WorkTheSpace!

  • @tree82
    @tree82 Před 3 lety +61

    "by popular demand, some demand" XDDD

  • @onetimebear5681
    @onetimebear5681 Před 3 lety +75

    "Everybody just uses wing backs"
    Me playing 6'4 full backs on support: *"ummmm"*

    • @ozanavar3460
      @ozanavar3460 Před 3 lety +8

      My 6'5 no nonsense full back disagrees

  • @rpekito
    @rpekito Před 3 lety +54

    My favourite part of the first tactic is that he didn't select offside trap. There's just 1 defender, ir shouldn't be hard

    • @jpfr624
      @jpfr624 Před 3 lety +14

      What a missed opportunity lmaooooo

    • @rpekito
      @rpekito Před 3 lety +2

      @@jpfr624 it should help so much and I don't see you loosing anything

  • @TheDominicProject
    @TheDominicProject Před 3 lety +24

    boys u missed an open goal by not playing a match with these tactics. I need to see that first one in engine.

  • @Roscododger
    @Roscododger Před 3 lety +19

    "You can pull that off, the people want it."
    " *achem* That's actually the catchphrase of my onlyfans."
    "Wow."

  • @acehole7147
    @acehole7147 Před 3 lety +7

    That first tactic is taken from FM Scout from last year! Supposed to dominate Vs weak teams, but can't be used against any team who understands what a football is

  • @FMBaseNetwork
    @FMBaseNetwork Před 3 lety +26

    Chemistry on-point 🤣

  • @Tangeni.
    @Tangeni. Před 3 lety +8

    The fact that WTS was there made it very fun to watch.

  • @RDFTactics
    @RDFTactics Před 3 lety +21

    ONE DAY!!! One day it will be me who gets a guest appearance! haha great vid

  • @aw2584
    @aw2584 Před 3 lety +10

    How about instead of tactics alone you get people's saves, turn off injuries and other random stuff to make it fair, simulate the whole season with the original tactics, then both of you make your own and simulate the whole season too (so 3 simulations in total, obviously no transfers allowed) and then compare your results and team stats? Seems like a fun opportunity to show how much it can influence the outcome of a whole season and also give you the ability to show how your advice works in actual game!

  • @mortenbendixen7217
    @mortenbendixen7217 Před 3 lety +17

    Libero on attack is so good when playing with 3 CBS and with playing out from the back :)

    • @swifteh1780
      @swifteh1780 Před 3 lety +2

      I use a Libero between my two ball playing CBs using a 3-4-3w

    • @IvanTheReptile
      @IvanTheReptile Před 3 lety

      Preach brother 🙌

  • @GenericZac
    @GenericZac Před 3 lety +4

    This video shows you need to do more videos with Jack. You two are so entertaining to watch.

  • @dennissrensen4329
    @dennissrensen4329 Před 3 lety

    You two are really good 😃
    This was really good!

  • @lygogaming117
    @lygogaming117 Před 3 lety +1

    Really enjoyed this and would like to see more 👍

  • @Roxas1711
    @Roxas1711 Před 3 lety +1

    Zealand been pumping in the vids. Love it!

  • @kingcastaway07
    @kingcastaway07 Před 3 lety +1

    I love your videos with WorkTheSpace, my two favorite FM CZcamsrs

    • @rossanderson1892
      @rossanderson1892 Před 3 lety

      surely foxinthebox is a close third? that man must spend more time researching and studying the game meta-data than sleeping, eating or streaming (smh)

  • @davorhenry6961
    @davorhenry6961 Před 3 lety +4

    I love that reece has a channel that shouts out the channels he edits

  • @JuveVinny
    @JuveVinny Před 8 měsíci

    I like the concept of this video. Did you do more of these?

  • @pwnzorder
    @pwnzorder Před 3 lety +3

    My two favorite YT Twich bros... Yall should do a weekly 'we rate your ***'

  • @Nathan-js3zl
    @Nathan-js3zl Před 3 lety +1

    Great video idea this Zealand

  • @Zakar795
    @Zakar795 Před 3 lety +2

    OMG you look like Marshall! I cant unsee it arghhh

  • @joeswain450
    @joeswain450 Před 3 lety +4

    Only just watched this, seems like Zealand requires the restroom with all that bouncing. Or has had many, many caffeine drinks - which in turn will also lead to all the pissing

  • @thegaz-man
    @thegaz-man Před 3 lety +3

    Would love to see your reactions to Secret Base's Breaking Football Manager formations
    I still have nightmares

  • @ethanderrick8486
    @ethanderrick8486 Před 3 lety +4

    I've decided I want to take Wroxham from the 9th tier of English football to glory. The team starts with not even a full gold star team, and finding signings is so so hard. Trial abuse here I come!

  • @jackspnc
    @jackspnc Před 3 lety +1

    Why was that impression of Ben so good?!

  • @Zakar795
    @Zakar795 Před 3 lety +1

    13:03 When that Wonderkind you were scouting for two years is put on the transfer list

  • @WizoIstGott
    @WizoIstGott Před 3 lety +5

    I dont think its weird for a Tactic in the 8th tier of football to play for set pieces. I allways have that one ticked in lower leagues, all you need is one big lad and one decent set piece taker and you just print goals at that level.

  • @matthewbaughan7073
    @matthewbaughan7073 Před rokem

    I wish you would do more like this

  • @wirach1996
    @wirach1996 Před 3 lety

    I used a Libero once on FM 19, in one of the best teams I've ever had, but it was definitely a one-off

  • @brendenquillen6093
    @brendenquillen6093 Před 3 lety

    Zealand! The guy that plays Marshall is in the newest Gullivers Travels with Jack Black.

  • @hakim6158
    @hakim6158 Před 3 lety +7

    Wait what's wrong with cautious? It's the bane of my existence.

  • @Mission.Unpossible
    @Mission.Unpossible Před 3 lety

    I've used a libero to decent success in the Spanish lower leagues (notably Sergio Ayala in FM19).
    Tactic was a 5-2-3 with a libero on support, 2 CB's on def, WBsu & CWBat left & right, MEZsu & B2B left & right, with a Winger At, DLFsu & IFsu. Record number of shots on goal in a match was somewhere in the 60ies, with about 1/3rd on target on average. My finishing was so low though that I never got more than 4 goals lol.

  • @bigrandomun9267
    @bigrandomun9267 Před rokem

    I play the exact formation as IDavy with Dortmund but with the DM/BWM on the right and the Mezzala/CM on the left and CWB on the right and 2 Inverted wingers with a Shadow Striker. Else, exactly the same.

  • @kyleeasy1250
    @kyleeasy1250 Před 3 lety +4

    I love jack

  • @andrewramplin5881
    @andrewramplin5881 Před 3 lety

    the guy you raided yesterday was great

  • @zimzimma5688
    @zimzimma5688 Před 3 lety +1

    The guy, Jason something, is in pretty much everything Judd Apatow does in fairness.

  • @enzo64
    @enzo64 Před rokem

    I loved the video, but the only thing is I think you should judge tactics on the context of the team and the players that your subscribers have. Example if someone plays LB attack and RB defence it’s because his RB maybe is not good in attack so he can’t to better. I love your videos.

  • @filipposmoulkas770
    @filipposmoulkas770 Před 3 lety

    Okay this pushed me to make a Twitter. I’m missing so many good videos I could be on!

  • @iopzzza
    @iopzzza Před 3 lety

    Hey Zealand, why do u look shaking all the time on this video (is it just my monitor?) :D , i just noticed it now. Great video, though !

    • @Mombot_z
      @Mombot_z Před 3 lety +1

      He got it from his dad, they are always bouncing their legs when they are sitting and thinking. Usually it doesn’t come all the way up his body 🤣

  • @jackspnc
    @jackspnc Před 3 lety

    "It's like people who have a little dyed streak in their hair" Brilliant haha

  • @zacflemo1994
    @zacflemo1994 Před rokem

    the false 9 tactic is insane if you have a really good false 9 striker hybrid aha

  • @TheFazer1992
    @TheFazer1992 Před 2 lety

    I used a libero on support and attack I'm fm20 with concord in lower leagues. Was Saul milanovics best position so thought let's run with it for once🤣. Worked ok and could swap to a 433dm wide when needed, libero moved to the DM role.

  • @kevinstein1568
    @kevinstein1568 Před 3 lety

    EYYY The fuckin Knapp shout. That dudes tactics have been among the 2 or 3 best for EVERY FM I've ever played. I legit remember loading up Knapp tactics back in fm15. Dude's tactics are ALWAYS top 5 in MR.L's tactic testing league. Heck I get the sneaking suspicion that most of the tactics surrounding Knapp's in the rankings integrate at least one or two things from Knapp's tactics- whether that is using the same throw-in procedure or corner setup his tactics really set the standard.

  • @Tom-lr1if
    @Tom-lr1if Před 3 lety

    Loooooove work the space

  • @lucaspontes4147
    @lucaspontes4147 Před 3 lety

    what's the thing against "libero" role in FM? please i dont understand why

  • @JJJackson777
    @JJJackson777 Před 2 lety

    5:42 how did i not see this ahahahahaha

  • @DMurphyApple
    @DMurphyApple Před 3 lety +1

    more!

  • @msherif428
    @msherif428 Před 2 lety

    Oh libero libero! A normal center-back with cover duty works just the same!

  • @APlayerLikeComputer
    @APlayerLikeComputer Před 3 lety +1

    I love jack ❤️

  • @zqualified3901
    @zqualified3901 Před 3 lety

    Hey can you do a video on how to download kits next please

  • @V3MIK
    @V3MIK Před 3 lety

    It's Jason Segel. Forgetting Sarah Marshall, I love You Man!, Bad Teacher

  • @eXistenZ15
    @eXistenZ15 Před 3 lety +4

    Hw does the tactic tester works? And can we use it?

    • @senders779
      @senders779 Před 3 lety

      Yes, its on fm-base. You just upload your tactic and they simulate many matches with it

  • @jordylont1879
    @jordylont1879 Před 3 lety +1

    You guys are so funny

  • @insicknessandindeath
    @insicknessandindeath Před 3 lety

    How have you not seen 'I Love you, man'?

  • @BetterKnownAsMalice
    @BetterKnownAsMalice Před 3 lety

    The half back on defend tactic: I bet the FB on defend is told to sit narrow - almost as a 3rd CB.
    This would allow the WB to overlap the IF and for the HB to drop onto a makeshift back 4 to play long balls to the WB and advanced players.

  • @saxonjedi5878
    @saxonjedi5878 Před 3 lety

    Marshall was in one of the newish Muppet movies I think?

  • @ethanjwa786
    @ethanjwa786 Před 3 lety +1

    I cant remember the last time i used the same role for my fullbacks.... am I a genius?

  • @TheClobter
    @TheClobter Před 3 lety +1

    The 4th tactic I feel would be more of a real life tactic then an fm tactic

    • @TheClobter
      @TheClobter Před 3 lety

      It’s basically going to come down to on defense you will have 5 at the back with the half back and the wing back come back later and on attack the cm will take the role of the fullback in an underlapping role more in the edge of the box with the winger outside of him. The cm would be the slightly further and come wider to get the ball if needed.

  • @OleAasheim
    @OleAasheim Před 3 lety +2

    Zealand have never watched Forgetting Sarah Marshall. :(

  • @charlie1029able
    @charlie1029able Před 3 lety +2

    Everyone knows Tony Pulis 4-4-2 would fuckin crush all of these

  • @inacionelson
    @inacionelson Před 3 lety

    Playing gegenpress with cautious mentality? (Tactic 2)

  • @kvltgaming4122
    @kvltgaming4122 Před 3 lety

    That 4231 with a half back is a straight copy and paste from Mourinho's Inter.

  • @keowni
    @keowni Před 3 lety +1

    You look exactly like marshall...

  • @Juju25118
    @Juju25118 Před 2 lety +1

    I'VE BEEN THINKING ZEALAND LOOKS LIKE MARSHALL FOREVER

  • @ZebuNation
    @ZebuNation Před 3 lety

    Someone is using a variation of my "Z" formation and it turned out to be the 2nd most effective tactic. lol. Biggest difference is that they replaced the Segundo Volante with a Halfback.

  • @jamescbrown8149
    @jamescbrown8149 Před 3 lety +1

    We Stan WTS

  • @jonahmakay8647
    @jonahmakay8647 Před 3 lety +1

    I used a 3-4-1-2 with a libero and win the Copa Libertadores so I think it works

    • @EriksV99
      @EriksV99 Před 3 lety

      Last year used a libero in tactic that got FC Andorra to CL final, so I've got positive experience too, worked really well. Might be the absolutely insane guy I played there though.

  • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Před 3 lety +1

    I really wish SI would nerf Gegenpressing and make the other styles more viable. I mean, 4-2-3-1 Attacking Gegenpressing is just a meme.

  • @hugefanofgabicallumb7216

    can anyone tell me how to check my own tactics ratings on fm base pls???

  • @laptopking9471
    @laptopking9471 Před 3 lety

    New Video idea
    team of the best free agents
    Get the best free agent in every position and put them in a team and then sim the season

  • @TheBdougs
    @TheBdougs Před 3 lety

    I ship the two of you.

  • @rossanderson1892
    @rossanderson1892 Před 3 lety +1

    why is Zealand filming during a mild earthquake?

  • @peterhedes5470
    @peterhedes5470 Před 3 lety +1

    3-4-1-2 is the best

  • @TDavyAfterDark
    @TDavyAfterDark Před 3 lety

    Wtf my tactic is featured

  • @dolwota2nd
    @dolwota2nd Před 3 lety

    totally haraaaaaaaamball

  • @31cekcumhuriyeti79
    @31cekcumhuriyeti79 Před 3 lety +1

    I like to play with 2-4-4-8 defense wins championship

  • @joaomartins9794
    @joaomartins9794 Před 3 lety

    Does someone know what Zealand video is that he does that head dance xDD

  • @lukaluka4868
    @lukaluka4868 Před 3 lety

    Can someone help me
    I am being bullied by weaker teams in terms of possesion like 30% to their 70% and dont know how to fix it

  • @timothyfranklin4808
    @timothyfranklin4808 Před 3 lety +1

    1st tactic..... Distribute to centre backs..... There's no centre backs 😂

  • @matsliekardash5467
    @matsliekardash5467 Před 3 lety

    I am happy I am not in this video with my 4-1-1-3-1 gegenpress

  • @swifteh1780
    @swifteh1780 Před 3 lety

    What's the beef with Dr Bengi? I think he's alright.

    • @Mombot_z
      @Mombot_z Před 3 lety +1

      They both are very good friend with Doctor Benjy, and they were just teasing him. The same thing that Doctor Benjy does to them constantly. 😀

  • @bart0134
    @bart0134 Před 3 lety +1

    My ears always kinda hurt because your voice is so deep

  • @DavePlaysGaming
    @DavePlaysGaming Před 3 lety +1

    Zealand's bouncing around is a bit disconcerting. Is he full of nervous energy? Does he need a pee? We may never know!

    • @ZealandonYT
      @ZealandonYT  Před 3 lety +1

      He is always bouncing his leg while he's thinking is the answer

    • @DavePlaysGaming
      @DavePlaysGaming Před 3 lety

      @@ZealandonYT And now we know!

  • @NBMFTW1
    @NBMFTW1 Před 3 lety +1

    You’ve never seen Jason Segel in anything else...What?

    • @bladesman1963
      @bladesman1963 Před 3 lety

      My thoughts exactly! I love you man! Not Literally, obviously!

  • @SamJ031
    @SamJ031 Před 3 lety

    The disrespect against the libero in this video is quite uppsetting.

  • @speedphlux
    @speedphlux Před 3 lety +2

    Hmmm, kinda makes me wanna go out and create a Libero tactic that actually doesn't suck :D
    #GiveReeceSomeRice

    • @1886Joel
      @1886Joel Před 3 lety

      I won the premier league with a 5-2-3 with a libero.

  • @Mohammad_.-
    @Mohammad_.- Před 3 lety

    Rupert is on the "Servant"
    Jason Segel latest movie is "Our Friend"
    🙂

  • @semajenahs314
    @semajenahs314 Před 3 lety

    Marshall on Freaks & Geeks was quality

  • @ronniescerri4111
    @ronniescerri4111 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello again

  • @michaelcovington9047
    @michaelcovington9047 Před 3 lety

    So glad my 4-2-4 tiki taka is not in this..

  • @boukebuffel
    @boukebuffel Před 2 lety

    I think it's a missed opportunity to not look at the tactics ingame... While I appreciate the concept of this video, what you end up wtih is two persons armchair-guessing whether a tactic would work out or not. Look at it ingame, then realize why the creators might have made the choices they did

  • @Stein.Bagger
    @Stein.Bagger Před 3 lety +4

    6:05 Kind of condescending when he's literally in your video...

  • @EdyMar77
    @EdyMar77 Před 2 lety

    its not liBEro , its LIbero , the accent in the i . pronounce it like an italian :)

  • @ShaunDell.
    @ShaunDell. Před 3 lety +1

    Zealand I love you and I mean no disrespect but you shaking your leg or just the chair through out this whole video makes my physically ill.

  • @j-simmo1881
    @j-simmo1881 Před 2 lety

    I hate ‘tighter marking’ my teams perform better without it