HGV Driving Test Changes
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2021
- The way you get your HGV Class 1 HGV licence has changed.
If you want C+E artic entitlement then there is no longer the need to pass the Cat C driving test first.
Go straight from car to class 1!
This short video explains what the changes will mean. - Zábava
Just did a couple of days C1 work for a well known supermarket. I walked out. I was treated like a donkey. They cant get drivers coz they treat people like dirt. A company I know advertised a job a couple of weeks ago, good pay, good conditions & had over 100 applications. There is no driver shortage & there never has been. However there is a shortage of people willing to work 55-60 hours a week for peanuts. The people who are having problems recruiting drivers are the people who pay low wages & treat their people like dirt.
TESCO!
Being treated like dirt is a huge issue in the hgv world. It quite rightly puts people off.
Sainsbury's are hiring, £60k per year. There's a reason we get paid to work, it's shit, head down, work done, get paid, go home.
@@whatyousaidbud Wise words, 6 month's ago asda were hiring at 11 an hour. Chickens have come home to roost. Making it easier to get the licence wont make new passes accept the appalling pay & conditions. Insurance is also an issue here. Remember the unofficial 2 year apprenticeship & no one allowed in under 25. BTW i was on 20 an hour at asda via agency & still wouldn't do that shit & i used to do 80 drops a day on white vans & thats graft
WAITROSE.....
Madness.
If they’re going to scrap anything. It should be the cpc ,not practical qualifications.
Just scrap the CPC , the IR35 and pay another £3-£5 an hour then you will have all the drivers that are needed.
Reversing the truck should stay as part of the test.
No reversing or coupling and uncoupling madness
@@gerardburton1081 I have my class 1 coming up and the driving test is in 2 parts CPC Mod 3a reversing uncoupling etc and Mod 3b practical driving. The reversing part hasn't been removed it's just a separate test.
Let me tell you as a HGV driver, the shortage is all a load BS. There are plenty of drivers out there, but because of companies like Sainsburys and DPD that love to unfairly dismiss drivers for silly company policies and only mainly employ through agencies so you have no rights. That no one wants to do the job. I was rejected 3 times last week, twice by DHL and once by XPO. And am working for XPO at the moment through an agency. All the decent jobs with companies that truly look after their drivers are taken, and all that is left is the crap. Long unsociable hours, disrespect, and no job security. So now the government thinks that by changing the way you aquire your licence that it is going to change anything. And what if it doesn't work, what will the next plan be. You can not drive an artic in this day and age expecially through London if you haven't had any experience in a rigid. I think it's a bad idea and it will definitely not solve the problem.
So technically, if people won’t fill the job, there’s vacancies, ergo a shortage of, in this case, truck drivers. As in actual working truck drivers.
I’m lucky, I work for a decent firm, at an excellent depot, and we all work together to get the job done. Not the same at all depots, in fact, I believe ours is the best at working together in the firm.
But, & I stress this, some firms out there really abuse their staff. Agency drivers LOVE working for us. We’ve got it easy, every job is properly planned as fully legal. Some places are not so, shall we say, compliant.
@@paulcollyer801 May I ask where is that nice depot and company? :)
@@BoG25Cz, all I’ll say is we have a Large liveried fleet, and my depot is in the South East. Just finished a batch of hiring, so you may be out of luck.
@@BoG25Cz What a load of tosh! This guy can't even tell you where the depot is 😅... as if you will take their job if you know. lol
Correct, there have been guys who abandoned the rig and jacked on the spot in London, a cnut of a place if you get lost.
They wax lyrical about health and safety, over regulate the industry then drop this bombshell 🙈
I am enjoying this driver shortage. just got a big pay raise.
Tell them after 3 hours 33 minutes you only work for triple pay per hour. 🇬🇧👍
Every lorry driver deserves better pay you guys are amazing drivers !
Me too 🤣. So they are basically saying driving standards out the window and a lot of unsafe drivers in control of 44 tone death machines. It’s actually crazy. I’m sure they was put in place to keep all road users safe. A can see a lot of trailers being dropped on the road and fatalities rising due to this. The rules should not change just because of a driver shortage. Government should have had this sorted along time ago.
@@zakhiirjahangeer9607 they do
Pity its took a situation like this to get a pay rise just used us for years
Hi Sean, good explanation and I believe you will be proved correct. I have had a ‘Class 1’ for 50 years now and been all over Uk, Europe and the Middle East so have seen all this at the wheel of a truck. Here comes the but anyone taking on the truck driver job in 2021 will be a brave man. Too much regulation and pressure although I an still trucking in The UK at 70 years old. Recently had licence renewed so old age has not got me yet, but I have decided that will be my last renewal, not because of health because I have loved my time on the road. The reason being the job is no longer worth the hassle. To change the subject I have know EPTRAINING for many years and I wish you and your company every success in the future and you can make the necessary changes to prove Shapps wrong. Good luck and Thanks
im doing my hgv and im 60 so not got to mutch time left lol
Hi I did my ADR with you and LEVEL CO (D) I few years ago for Saints Transport,now left Saints for much more money:) this whole thing has been a blessing for us hgv drivers, no more low pay. I've had my license for 20 years, I did my class 1 in a flatbed truck, first time I was sent out in a full trailer I nearly quit the industry, VERY scary! I still struggle to reverse at most places, I go to motorway service stations to practice some times. In my opinion it's a lifetime of learning especially reversing
fact ;)
Took me years of gaining experience to be a competent Class 1 driver.
New drivers going straight to Class 1, in an automatic with no proper reversing test is madness!!
Wait for the carnage on the roads!!
There is a reversing test, the driving test is split into 2 parts Mod 3a and Mod 3b.
I was what you referred to as a double L driver,
I had a full motorcycle licence, and went and passed my class one or C+E as it is now, I did a weeks course spending most of the Monday in a class room, took my test at 8am on the Friday and passed, so in effect had just 3 days tuition, will say my instructor was top class. So it can be done
Hi Sean,
I’d like to congratulate you for the videos. They are all well presented and the most informative ones, well done!
Now the news, it’s a joke.
I’m on the road since 91 and it’s like a cleaner want to tell me how to drive my truck.
Personally, I wouldn’t give a 44 t vehicle into a car driver’s hands especially right after 4 days of practice, because the the 5th day is the test.
In Hungary, it took 3 months to pass 5 tests before to get only car license, and 7 tests to be a qualified C+E driver.
And I’m proud as I passed all the U.K. tests first time after my Hungarian license expired in 2009.
Government should have MPs with common sense not to skip important safety parts to get more drivers.
Well said Sean I will be coming to you some time in February maybe March to to my class 1 did my class 2 with you and I can not fault you guys go above and beyond for any of your customers
When all these new drivers realise how strict the hours are, how they will be maxing out their hours, the lack of facilities, the rubbish treatment of drivers at RDCs etc, we will be back to square one
Spot on mate. Getting your licence to drive trucks is one thing. The reality of doing it to earn a living is completely different .
@@xj358 Smart boys., so what job is the bees knees?
Ginsters for breakfast and pissing in a bottle sounds good to me 👍 😂
@@chrism8705 Got the trots one cold January night stopping in a lay by in Surrey, that is an experience.
It’s brilliant that there is a shortage in the shops, now all the smart ass car car drivers will now realise how important truck drivers are
It's the same for every trade lad chill your beans
@@gazgaffa8437 what you talking about I am sick of car drivers that no nothing about driving a HGV that think they know better
@@bluemoon5761 what?
@@gazgaffa8437 lol care to explain. You obviously have no clue what it’s like to drive a truck
Blue Moon 🌙 that would be nice but I think that a lot of car drivers and even more cyclists think that the lorry drivers drive lorries for fun.
Thank you Sean. Beautifully explained as always.
What an outstanding company ep training. I was very fortunate to do my class 2 with this company and the level of training and patience they had was unbelievable. Once again Sean thank you very much and with a new career now ahead I will be coming back to book my class 1. Also I have given the company I work for your details as they are looking at putting some drivers through there class 1 also fingers crossed for you big man 👍👍❤❤
When will the rules change regarding the Hgv tests?
Tbh I think for safety reasons I'd prefer to still go C first, I wouldn't fancy jumping in an artic with no experience that's for sure! Definately something you need to work up too in my opinion.
Get rid of the CPC it's just a racket for a few people to make tons of money.
I tend to agree with that, even though I did pass my class One straight away, I did not dive a class one straight away and I drove a Bedford TK for a couple of years which great to begin with, in fact I would say don't bother with class One far more stressful, with all the red tape as in Tachograph etc.
I did the class c test 20 years ago,I've been contemplating going for class 1( C+E) in the past I drove manual and automatic bin wagons, curtain siders so on. I did pcv cat D 3 years ago so class 1 always felt like unfinished business. I left hgv because my wife was ill but thankfully she's ok and I'm getting itchy feet.
Happy days best news I've heard this week. 😊👍
I did my HGV in 1990, 5 day intensive and straight into a class 1, £14ph job. I gave my license up in 2015 because the conditions and wages had deteriorated so much, drivers starting on £9ph. I drove in Hampshire on very busy roads but if you can drive a car well you can drive a HGV well with a weeks training and test. 😷👍
Well explained Sean. I fear these changes are not rooted in road safety and I really hope nobody gets hurt as a result of this knee jerk reaction. I’m sure EP will be fine because of it’s great reputation
Hi Sean, well explained cheers Matt....see you soon for lorry loader course....
Great video it has cleared tons of questions marks off my head thank you
Also financial training grants for current class c drivers to move onto artics would get a decent amount of ex drivers back in the seat
I'm truck driver and willing to work but no job for me
I had been looking into joining this sector for years, though previously having no idea about the HGV world and since signing up about a month now finding out all these makes me feel even more intrigued. I was ready to pay the full fee. I don't mind the changes I guess cos it's cheaper but I really hope it does not affect the quality of learning and training as well as the way the new entrants are perceived by the old sweats.
We come with love. Ha!
I dont think many drivers look down at you for being new. We were all new at one time. Forget what you've learnt about driving in lane 1 on the motorway, you will find yourself cruising in lane 2, because lane one is filled idiots who are unwilling or incapable of doing the speed limit in their fancy cars and/or little shit boxes. (All you wankers in the the i10's you know who you are)
I work for a training company and we will not be taking someone with no experience straight out onto the road with an artic we will insist that the first part of your training is a few hours in a cat c truck before anyone gets let loose in the big killing machine which does not have dual controls like a learner car. Once you have passed who is going to be looking down their nose at you,? We all have to start somewhere😎
I'm going straight to class 1, however I have been driving double decker buses for 3 years and had a drive in an 18T rigid and although the driving position was new the vehicle itself felt much easier to drive than a bus.
Thanks for the great video - very informative
I think better will be Swedish style long truck for experienced drivers operating from big depot to other big depot only at night. You can take 2 times more. Only on selected roads.
Yes I’ve seen them in Sweden when I was driving out there, they look like they handle the Scandinavian roads just fine. As you say, if you went from hub to hub and only had to come off the junction I’m sure it would work just fine!
Good idea in principle. Till the clowns at the highways department start closing roads unnecessarily at night.
You try driving 16 foot trailers 52 foot long, on multi drop..
For a day an tell me where you think it's a bit of a stressful day.
UK roads aren't made for them.
They were only ever tested on a 9 year trial to be trunk motors, as you said, within 18 months they were out multi dropping.
Sheer bloody hell.
So no narrower streets an longer trailers isn't the answer.
@@stevecunningham6537 who mentioned multi drop?.. thats just idiotic lol
@@Me-oo4yu Sorry was busy replied wrong thread
Very well articulated. Good effort
Hi Sean, Since we spoke last things have taken a major tumble in this industry haven't they ! I got my licence back in 1979 (class 3 then). From memory it was just a practical test with no theory, and it was relatively easy to pass. I think a big problem now is this CPC, which can be costly. I remain glad I left the industry when I did though. Good luck mate. 👍
Your looking at thick end of 400 quid for the cpc every 5 years and you can bet that will go up but drivers wages wont keep on a par with it.
You can get CPC for £45-50 per module. If you don't leave it to the last minute. You can't fail it, so the biggest problem (for me) is losing a weeks work because I'm a night driver and so it's easier for me to do it in one hit than once a year.
@@Diamondphobe thats better than ive seen before but still 350 ish with medical as well
I fail my driving test 7 times, after pass my theory tests in the first attempt.
I believe this is about the training centres and DVSA makes business together.
Years ago, they would only pass a certain number each day. So if you did a perfect drive you got failed. E.g, I was doing a test, and approaching a 20 zone with one of those flashy signs. Before I got to the speed gate (The two big 20 signs on either side of the road) The flashy sign came on, and the examiner failed me there and then. I complained as I had not got to the 20 zone, but he said if the sign flashes you fail. Complete bollocks, that was £250 down the drain, all because they had passed enough drivers that day. ALWAYS get a morning test.
No, it means you probably shouldn't be driving a truck!
@@garviere I drove Lorries and Bus for two years
Great video, very informative. Nice one mate ☺️☺️💪👍👍
Nice one sane you professional and good speaking experience well done mate
Wow , well explained..I think it's a case of someone who can't do a job telling everyone how to do it...I'm 5yrs into hgv and some old boys say I'm not a real driver as I no experience of split gear etc etc. I think those who go straight to hgv from car with very little training will find it hard as once on the open road it's so different to passing your test. Thanks for the video.
Hi, as a ex HGV instructor we only teach you how to pass the test same as car really, the learning of the Job comes when your out on your own and listening to experienced driver's.
Take no notice of older driver's saying about Eaton twin spliters, I've been there and done it. But times change and so do vehicles.
Hi Shaun thanks for this important info. Kind regards
Hi Shaun,
Thanks for this useful video explaining the probable chances.
I currently have C1(pre 97) and I am looking to take my class C test to drive a 10ton lorry for my own private use only(ex military vehicle for shows) I have no plan to drive commercially as a full time job. With these new chances I may look at taking C+E but not essential, my question is CPC? Do I need to do any part of the CPC or do I just need part 1&2 theory and the driving practical?
Many Thanks, Tom
Just passed my class 2 , wish I waited now
@@stevenmaloney3787 yea would be nice but will not happen unfortunately ... you would still have to pass the C+E test
I’m happy I got my class 2 before the whole change to be honest , gives me more experience and respect from other drivers
Same here I passed on the 7th damn it
Nicely presented and cleared up the new rules
Hi Sean, from as Ex- Examiner of 15 years, and a Ex-self employed B+E trainer of 5 months, agree with everything you've said in this video, well done, wish more people could see it. Truth hurts.
Can I ask a genuine question please? Would you as an ex examiner be happy to pass a driver and grant them effectively a license to kill without actually witnessing them with your own eyes carrying out probably 2 of the most important tasks ie reversing and uncoupling? Granted being signed off for these tasks by a competent person (instructor) but me personally would have my reservations.
@@paulquinn4684 tbh Paul fills me with real dread.
Thanks Sean,
It’s been four years since I did my bus license with you. Best move I ever made ditching the taxis and moving to buses. Still with Lothian in Edinburgh running around in 130 passenger Tri-axles, loving the life.
Glad to see your still thriving and doing well.
Best regards
Spot on as usual Sean, shambolic in my opinion!!
Thanks Sean for the update , sounds crazy and your correct completely political, keeping the voters happy with there supermarket shelves.
Looking forward to starting my training with you as soon as DVLA return my provisional.
Just to address all the confused comments. You STILL need to pass the reversing and coupling uncoupling test BEFORE you can gain your licence. He even says this in the video. The test is split into two parts, part 3a reversing etc and 3b practical driving much like the theory test pt1 multiple choice and pt2 hazard perception. And just like the later they can be taken at a separate location at a different date but you still need to pass both.
So don't be panicking over newly qualified class 1 drivers, they've just gone through a lot to get that entitlement and could even prove safer as it's all fresh and they haven't developed bad habits yet or beginning to get complacent. 👍👍
I tried to book class 1 for before Christmas earliest was February now they ordered 50000 new tests but is there enough instructors
Great video, very informative, thanks for uploading 👍
Thank you
When is it coming into effect? Have any specific dates?
Sounds like a trainer getting a bit desperate for his job, Also car driver to 44ton artic spells disaster.
No it dose not all it spells is the government or the training centres will have to get more class one units and trailers and half of them don’t have enough class one instructors and also they will be loosing money it’s a peace of piss driving a class one even more so in a new unit much easier then driving a old car
It worked prior to97, the chaos will come when the reversing is highlighted as a massive failure and cause chaos the country over.
Why it worked well for decades until the E U got involved.......🏴👍🏻
Good video sean. I have class 2 lorry license 7 years now. When i passed my test i was told i can tow a trailer weighing 750kg and thats all. Now with the new laws can i tow a trailer and load totalling 3500kg? Example trailer and mini digger?hope to hear from you thanks
Very helpful very informative and sets the public straight if only they’d listen to you.
When do u think changes will be confirmed as I have a class 2already and my training for class 1 is booked for Sept 20th 2021
Well explained great video
Great video 👍
Thank you
I lived in the UK for 3’5 years. Loved it over there. Loved to come back for my motorcycle holidays.
Being back in the Netherlands, I missed living and working in your more than beautiful country.
Nowadays, I love to live here, back in the Netherlands. Driving between HGV’s can be impressive enough in the knowledge that there are competent, skilled drivers. Knowing that your government starts to issue HGV driving license to all who think that it is the same like playing with HGV dinky toys, I will never visit your country again. Good luck with it.
Fucking hell that turned bad fast.
Great video, and a good plug for your company. A very down to earth opinion. Another downside to the fasttrack to HGV 1... Class 2 roles will have to start paying the same as class 1 otherwise there will be no one who would want to do them? Maybe pay more even ??? It's often a harder working job
You hit the nail on the head. I've often thought that this whole having to gain experience driving a rigid first is actually more to do with getting someone to drive a rigid instead of them just wanting artic work.
I'm In, let's do it go big or go bigger!
I've just paid ( just over a week ago) for my class 2 and C&E licence back to back, I wonder then if I don't need to pay for my class 2 now, but would rather do full C&E at test centre than have to go somewhere else to complete it..
( I've been a coach driver for 19years and drive coaches bigger than class 2 - so apart from over hang at front, it shouldn't be too different from class 2? )
Buses/coaches and rigids turn differently because of the positioning of the front wheels.
I spent years on transporters with a car overhanging the windscreen, the only difference is the overhang is 10 foot up in the air.
I didn't change my driving if I jumped into a curtainsider or flat rigid.
I never had to fill out an accident form through clouting anything with a front corner as I never got that close to anything, in my mind the overhang was there even when it wasn't if that makes sense.
I was thinking this the people who have just done class 2 will be pissed paying twice the ones in the pipe line will they get a refund and go for class one. It's a cash cow doing class 2. Then 1 totally different ballgame it's always about rinsing working people it always has been and will be. Until they move the goal posts to suit the Government total madness. The job stinks treated like shit. No life bad diet no sleep divorce rate threw the roof. How many young Lads lassies want it. Very few. FACT
Excuse me, I sent D2+D4 form to DVLA for apply the cat.C providsional license (because there is no C+E option on the D2 form), and I am still waiting for the providsional license.
So what should I do if I want to learn C+E directly? Do I need to reapply the providsional license.
Thank you!
No, you only need to apply for cat c provisional.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO BUD!
Thank you so much for the video! I have a question in regards to the new changes. Last week I sent off my medical forms with my license to get a provisional for the C. Of course I could not select CE. Now with these changes does that mean I will still be able to go straight to Class 1, even though I only selected Class 2? Thank you!
Yes you will be able to
@@yazalde1ify Thanks!
I'm a coach driver and looking at doing my class 1 even think these rules are absolutely a shambles.
You watch the accidents increase.
When will the new rules for HGV training take place as I’m about to do my medical soon to drive class 2 but my intention was to go straight to class one after. will I not need to do my class 2 and can just do class 1
See you in Jan for my C+E, Sean
Where do I start.....the wages have been poor for years for a job where if you mess up you can go to prison for a long time ( don't often get that happen working in a warehouse for not much less pay). You work long hours and want to take a safe break overnight in the services and you have to pay through the nose to park . No where to park in this country if you turn up early or late to your drop, and with the best planning in the world, it will happen. There are so many things I could say but this is such a under appreciated industry. So my point is, that's why there is such a shortage of drivers in the country. So many no go areas for HGV's and fines to be had. Some of the standard of drivers are poor as it is but I am really not sure about fast tracking drivers either being a safe solution. Sorry about the rant. Great video from a clearly knowledgeable guy.
I did my test in Guilford with Group One about 20 years ago.
So can you tell me when this is coming into force for the class 1
When is this being implemented I have a test in 7 weeks will I need to do coupling and uncoupling reverse etc ?
I have followed your blog for a little while and have learnt some good stuff but as a prospective HGV driver my issue and I'm sure a lot of other guy's and girls is the cost. Gaining a C+E is prohibitively expensive. I do feel for you if you go out of business but you can always get a job in the industry. Best news I've seen for ages as far as I'm concerned.
Thank you for saying that
I don't think the cost is that expensive for what you are gained.at the end of the day it's a business and learning drivers are using verry expensive hgvs.
Coming from a place of where I’ve paid outta my own pocket for every license entitlement I’ve got, car, motorbike, Hgv 1&2, paying to have proper training is the most important, as some adapt to driving way quicker than others, so to John Robinson, sorry but your statement is a bit ignorant……, and yeah I’ve been in the industry as a driver for 20 years, and 10 of those years had been as a Hgv 1 driving, again, I saved up and paid for it all outta mine own pocket……
@@Sacrifice-Paid I think you have misunderstood my point, what I am saying is the cost of training is way too high. I understand training is a very important part in any vehicle but to be paying £1500 to £3500 is extortionate. These are quotes I personally have received to do the Cat C licence I never even asked how much more to do the C +E part but I assume another £1500. This is the reason there is a driver shortage. Most people just cannot afford the training.
@Jim Bob I'm not 100% but I think you need a manual car licence to start with. Check the DVLA website.
As for test's I don't see any point of taking anything but the C+E that will allow you to drive everything and save yourself some money.
I've book my class 1 lessons n test for next month. Booked it afew months back. Will it be a spilt test or is it staying the same ( driving /reverse / couple n uncouple) All abit confusing
Really enjoyed that video, I had not heard about these changes. Maybe I missed the announcement on the news? I think the fly in the ointment now is that DVSA examiners have voted in favor of industrial action.
Brilliant timing I’ve had my rigid license for a year and now they’ve decide to change the rules 🤣 I could’ve been class 1 instead. Oh well, keep saving up the pennies, at least I got the rigid experience first.
I passed my class 2 a couple of days ago. I also want my class 1 aswell so it's a proper pain in my arse that I've got to pay for mine twice 😂😂
Had my class 2 for 3 months and booked and paid for my class 1 training end of this month fucking gutted what a waste of money
@@rlj19876 piss take isn't it 😔 its going to cause more issues then its worth in the end I bet 🙄
ALAS DEAREST BROTHER,,, THAT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. IT'LL SERVE YOU BEST OVER THE YEARS,,,, ALL THE PRICELESS EXPERIENCE YOU'VE ACQUIRED IN THE RIGIDS,,,,, SIMPLY PRICELESS.
@@stevenmaloney3787 ALAS,,,, OLD CHUM,,,,,, YOU'RE BEST OFF THIS WAY. THE EXPERIENCE YOU'VE ACQUIRED IS SIMPLY PRICELESS. TAKE YOUR TIME,,,, AND DO THE OLD SCHOOL HGV1 TRAINING,,,, FIND PROS LIKE THE GEEZER ON THIS CHANNEL,,,,, AND PAY HIM EXTRA,! TO TRAIN YOU PROPERLY,,,,, AND YOU&YOURWIFE AND THE CHILDREN,,,,, WILL BE GRATEFUL TO ALMIGHTY GOD FOR ALLOWING YOU SUCH ACCESS. BECAUSE,,, IN THE END,,,, IT'LL SAVE YOUR LIFE,,,,,, AND THOSE OF OTHERS,,,,K AND YOUR CONSCIENCE.
I just failed my class 2 last week and have rebooked for the 28th of September. I intend to go to CE afterwards but am now stuck either sticking with the trainer I had, I presume or redoing the whole thing! I really can’t do that as it will bankrupt me! Any suggestions? ShouId I continue and try again with the retest? This company has pass protection which I can only imagine if I had booked I likely would have passed. As I didn’t take that £300 option I now find myself doing a repeat test.
Im a c+e driver ive also done the class 2 hgv in the army, its ok rushing these guys through a test but who is going to insure them, and are they given any training in reversing and coupling up, I'm not sure i want to spend my day sorting stuck trailers in the yard, i had a young lad pulling with all his might on a 5th wheel, just came from the warehouse, he still had all the weight of the trl on it, i just showed him how to lift the trailer jack down the wheels a bit then lower the suspension, easy but ive done a long apprenticeship, he was on the verge off quitting till i walked by, what im saying we can't put every new driver on shunting for a week or two id love to but in reality its not possible, most companies i no have a coupling and driving test with an un coupling at the end, so they may pass the test but are they insurance company proof.
I agree with you, I have a class one but drive class 2. I have a good job and I know I'm lucky that's why I stay. I'd not want to jump in a class one now without a refresh course. I see lots of accidents on the way.
Hi ... I did my HGV1 in1984 straight from a car Licence @ age 21, & there were HGV shortages then, thats why I did my Licence ... !
Hi, just have a quick question, I have my c (class 2) license and now with the new law get the b+e. I was just wondering if I get the c1+e as well as I have passed the c (class 2)? If you could write back I would appreciate it thanks Tom
I know loads of drivers with loads of experience in driving wagons all over the UK and Europe, one driver I know took a wagon out to the Chinese border from Clevedon in N Somerset in the 90s! They gave up part time driving because of the driver CPC…scrap that and you would get many drivers back doing the work for the drivers who are on their weekly rest!
All I’ve heard is road safety for the last 10 years and now we have a situation where we will have drivers in charge of wagons who haven’t done the same tests and have the experience as other drivers because they haven’t got the CPC…madness in my opinion.
I am one of those people,got out of it 15yrs ago.The only way I would go back is if I did European work,I would never do it here again!
Help please, I currently hold a Cat C licence, does this mean with the new changes I am entitled to upgrade my license to obtain the higher category licences? Or is it only for new drivers going from category B car can only skip and upgrade?
Great informative video thanks
Would it not be better for the 5 day training put to 7 days and do more hours on reversing procedure as you have a good point there as the market will be flooded with inexperienced drivers.Quick question. I have a cpc and medical for my pcv license silly question but do I need another medical for the c+e test?
If I could give any potential new Class 1 drivers a great peice of advice for nailing the reverse exercise, it would be to practice reversing with a simple trailer on the back of your car. If you know how to confidently do this, you will then find doing the Class 1 reverse like a peice of cake. The method is exactly the same just 2 different sizes.
That LL is a crazy tale!
Hi, great video, mate.
I'm a subscriber from Nigeria, where I have a government job as a truck driver.
I'm keen on working in the UK trucking industry. And I'm ready to take the HGV certification.
But I am wondering if a non-EU resident could do the program as an international student
I can afford to pay for the program
Just got my class2 and want to get class1 also but in the meantime I want to work on a rigid . The CPC module 2 case studies I’ve been able to book only on 30 November so government wants more drivers but it takes over 2 months just for a test . They should try to sort that out also as is pointless to get ur license because you can’t drive a hgv without the CPC
Strange. I only started my journey to get my hgv license a month ago and have done all tests in 3 weeks.
I would cancel if i were you and try and go online after midnight to book your mod 2. It’s what I did for all 3 tests and found cancellations online after midnight.
I'm in the process of doing my medical to obtain my provisional should I wait till the Changes so my licence comes back with c+e provisional or send off my medical and only have c provisional
The other thing is if you have a manual car licence, you get a manual HGV entitlement. Now when I did my Class 2 the trainers kept the split box so drivers had some experience of it because the Class 1 vehicles were all autos. I see a fair few car-Class 1 drivers being presented with a manual and having no clue. Well even less of a clue because they can't reverse either.
Spot on mate. Didn't hear too many complaints (including from the training industry) about that ridiculous EU ruling back in 2014.
i have had a licence from 06/01/83 and did own and drive a 7.5-ton merc lorry but it was a long time ago do i still need a class 2 .
i do fell i need the extra training if i do not go for the test is there a way to get some sort of practical skills update ?.
So has these new rules come effective as of now in regards the hgv?
Hi just been accepted for the funding thro universal credit to get my class 2 so thrilled can't wait to get started as its been a big ambition of mine since being a teenager I'm 41 now
Good luck...👍
HI Dan - that's great news, congrats. I'm trying to apply for funding, too, but my local job centre doesn't know much about it (they are willing, though)! I was hoping you might be able to help with the process, and what you had to do/say/provide to get them to agree? Also how long it took, and whether you got a say in which training company you were able to choose? Basically any help and advice would be fantastic. Thanks in advance
I have my HGV Class 2 booked up with EP, I haven't got my category C provisional back yet from DVLA. When I do, there is no way on earth I would want to skip the rigid and go straight for Class 1, that's just madness.
But even under the current EU rules which have been in place for the past 25 years, there has never been any requirement for drivers to gain any experience in a rigid before being able to progress to a Class 1 so serves no purpose whatsoever. Many drivers do exactly that and have their tests booked back to back just to get through this bureaucratic pointless process. If you feel that you'd benefit from driving a rigid for some time before moving to a Class 1 then that sounds like a great idea. However, I'd still now be getting the Class 1 licence at the outset instead of a Class 2 and when you feel you're ready to then drive a Class 1, you'll already have it in your pocket. In many cases, you will take your Class 1 test in the exact same vehicle as your Class 2 test (now with a trailer on the back). So why not just stick the trailer on the back in the first place and get your Class 1 without having to pay for 2 sets of training and testing in order to get to the same place.
@@xj358 im only 21 and was looking into getting into it the past few weeks and this new news about skipping class 2 sounds good to me I’ve always been a confident driver and a quick learner and I agree the only reason I’d be doing class 2 first was to tick a box really. Totally agree with your statement but guess people are each to their own.
@@lfgaming1280 Good on you mate. Reading many of the comments on here, UK drivers have been turned in to a bunch of frightened rabbits and appear to be scared to death at the thought of going direct to Class 1 again since it was last allowed in December 1996. Seriously, since the EU allowed drivers to take their HGV test with an automatic gearbox in 2014, it has never been any easier to pass your HGV test, including Class 1. If I could give you one piece of advice it would be to try and get some practice reversing a trailer on the back of a car, including left and right reverse turns in to a driveway or through a garage door as this is almost identical to reversing a Class 1 (they're just different sizes). If you can do that without any problems you will find driving an artic a piece of cake. And for all those who think the reverse exercise has been scrapped, it most certainly has not. It has just been handed over to qualified instructors to now assess prior to the On Road part of the test with the examiner. The only way to get experience driving a Class 1 is to actually do it and those who slip in to a few years of driving a rigid will probably never progress to an artic.
@@xj358 you are right, I don't know where they get this so called experience in the rigid brainwashed by trainers 🤔
Back in 1986 i went straight for a class one , passed second attempt , did 20yrs of it , crap money, long long hours, unsocial hours as well , left in 2006 don't miss it for a second , never been tempted back .
What a joke they may as well give the license for free driving artics 25 years and still no respect
I did exactly the same in1978 went straight in for my HGV 2 I only passed my car test 6 months before there were no restrictions of any sort
Also I hope going direct to class1 means you can only drive c1 vehicles like doing an auto car test? Personally I hate c2. I am a c1 driver and find it really hard doing c2 stuff. Daft I know but worried I'll hit something
This is Very Good Video Must Watch 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video thanks buddy
Can I just ask pre 1997 you had your "Grandad Rights" which enabled you to pass your car test and then jump straight into a rigid 7.5tn Class IV. I passed my test in 1999 so will I now gain these old "Grandad rights"?. Will the DVLA be sending out new licenses with these entitlements? I always wanted to drive a Class 1, but to go through the Class 2, then Class 1 was so expensive. Is it possible your could clear this up for me, or any one of your wonderful viewers explain it. Many Thanks.
I have just ordered D2/4 forms. I'm going for HGVing. This video is new news to me. I guess I will be able to save a lot of money with this new change? And get C1 fast.
I'm on benefits and I'm hoping I can get help with training costs.
I'm late 50s with full clean license and driving experience of buses, tanks and Parcelforce.
Any advice would be wonderful!
And thanks for this great info vid. I want you to train me! (but I'm in Wales :(
If you can reverse a trailer on the back of a car (such as a caravan), then you can reverse a Class 1. The method is exactly the same, just different sizes. That is the best way to learn reversing a trailer before you go on your Class 1 training. The BE reverse exercise (Car & trailer) was exactly the same as the CE (truck & trailer) before it was scrapped by the government a couple of weeks ago. Plenty of videos of both on You Tube and as such, its very easy to practice the reverse exercise yourself before paying for the HGV 1 training.
@@xj358 Great tip! Thanks
You seem muddled with your classes. A: entitlement is motorcycle. B: is cars. C: is trucks. D: PSV or buses etc. You put a letter E after the class, that means a trailer (See driving licence for restrictions) So fast-tracking your your HGV, is C+E (Truck with trailer, or an artic for short) C1 means 7.5t. The 1 meaning, is a smaller version of that type of vehicle
Any changes being made in regards to the Modules 2 & 4 with this change?
bin the cpc money making scam
Yes totally agree get rid of the Cpc I passed my hgv 30 years ago and gave up driving hgvs when there brought Cpc in so there is no wounder there is a shortage of drivers
Eddie Pargeter trained me for my Operators CPC. National and International (2 tests years ago).. Same firm EP I think...
My Dad! Sadly passed away in 2013. He ran a great company. Greatly missed. .
As I passed my car driving test after 1997 I'm not allowed to drive up to 7.5 tonne. However I do also hold a category D license where I've driven busses in excess of 15 tonne. Surly freeing up the need to test for C1 license in his case would also be helpful
Increasing the weights allowed on each of the license classes would be a good start. The 3.5t weight limit for a standard license is laughable. The trailer rules also push drivers towards towing heavier trailers with smaller vehicles which is exactly the opposite of what they should be doing.
Should have upgraded hgv 2 drivers that have C+E with a 102 restriction wagon n drag and have been driving them for years
I took my test in a wagon and drag which I'd got a full licence for to get the 102 restriction off so could drive a artic lol
@@stevenmaloney3787 its a shocker mate
There is probably some argument for that but as this now only affects original HGV Class 2 & 3 licences obtained prior to 1 April 1991, then it will likely never happen. But yes, an original HGV class 2 or 3 holders got the C+E when the new EU categories were introduced on 1 April 1991 but were restricted to Wagon & Drag trailers as they never actually taken a test with a trailer attached. However, you can take a C+E test with the exact same Wagon & Drag and this allows you to also drive an artic. So I suppose the difference is that if you've never actually taken a test with a trailer attached, then they won't allow you any more entitlement than you originally had under the old HGV 2 or 3 licences prior to April 1991.
Hi just afte some advice. I ben driving coaches for 25 years. Got al my cards up today, but what do I need to go from psv to class 1 C + E .
Is that something I could do ?
Iv got a retest on class 2 29th September, so I don’t need to do that and go straight for class 1/ c+e?
If you pass class 1, I'm assuming you automatically obtain class 2? C +e = class 2 plus trailer?