HOI4 Exploit: Super Broken USA Guide (Hearts of Iron 4 Exploit guide for USA)
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- čas přidán 15. 11. 2021
- Todays super broken hoi4 exploit allows you to totally remove the great depression and get onto war economy in 1936. this is by far the best hearts of iron 4 usa guide or even hoi4 exploit. its really really broken and stupidly broken.
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pweze share the video so i get to eat this month 😳👉👈
never say it like that again
Good video man, but that's cringe af
No.
No
Back into the UWU mines with you!
This is like the inverse of the British London naval treaty strategy, amazing
it um..... ist much brokin lmao
paradox thought,that by implementing a time limit on the great depression focuses they stop op US-s.but they forgot about the naval treaty
they did, now pweze share the video so i get to eat this month 😳👉👈
Ah yes the good old attu Island glitch, thx Carly for helping other players
Im sure some old players did know this either tho lol
Wow that’s pretty damn broken I’ll be honest I enjoyed
thanks, its defiantly in my top 10 lol
this is amazing; my hat goes off to you
i never would have imagined a war eco america in 1936
Thanks, to be honest I was pretty surprised when I figured this out too
It's ABSOLUTELY Broken, Carly. It's *historical*, but broken as hell if played out well. Nice video! And yes, I will share it.
thank you :)
So, just tried this with NSB. Still works, but a few things to mention about my run.
1, I'm only getting the core on Attu Island after the 240 days of stating Alaska is complete. However it still works even if the Japanese are holding the island when it finishes.
2, Don't need to fully release Hawaii, Mariana, and Puerto Rico. Puppeting them works fine (And thus, you can use the Hawaiian/Mariana ports during the War) Japan didn't declare on Hawaii or Mariana before early 37 where I am currently, and I'm about ready to invade. So I don't think it's much of an issue.
3, Didn't need to do War Plans>Asia>Orange. In the 2-3 false starts and the actual run I had, Japan declared the day after I failed to disarm my navy every time. It might be because I puppeted Hawaii instead of released them, but it happened pretty reliably for me.
Far as invasion plans. Well I think I'm gonna take Taiwan for the airfield to get some air over the Home Islands with HFs and TACs. Might even bait Japan into navally invading Taiwan back. (Sucks that AI naval invasions can sail straight through 100 ships sitting on a sea zone they're landing in.) After that... Go for Tokyo, or the Southern Island? With the new supply system, hitting Tokyo is probably a better idea.
I found this strat through a comment and tried a few variations of my own. I didn't release PR, which caused France to declare, but you can delay this for a year by rushing an intelligence agency and using a spy for diplo pressure in France to get a NAP. But probably due to the proximity of France's Caribbean holdings they will break it in 12 months and immediately declare on you. I find that Italy also often likes to join in.
Being at war with France is...not terrible, actually. I haven't tried a run where I was at war from the beginning of the game yet, but remember it's still early France. Improve relations with either Belgium or the Netherlands to get docking access (they don't have the -5 penalty that UK does and have a +15 same ideology modifier), then use their ports to get naval supremacy in the Eastern part of the Atlantic. Naval invade from the US to around Calais, walk into Paris, and France will capitulate (you can start the preparation for the invasion ahead of time). Even if France joins the Allies, UK usually doesn't declare on you for a long time (and you can keep NAPing them when it expires); as long as UK doesn't join the war, the war will end as soon as you capitulate France. The early war with Italy also gives you an avenue to take them and Germany out early (depending on when Italy joins Axis). France has so many colonial holdings that you can simply liberate to many tiny nations to reduce WT, so you basically have free reign if you want to cheese further and puppet/annex metropolitan France.
I didn't release Hawaii at all, and Japan still instantly declared as soon as I failed to disarm. Lets you send an attache early to China as well to farm XP.
My focus order was to wait for 25 PP to core Alaska, then take continue new deal, wait for 150 PP to leave treaty, then WPA, wait for 150 PP to get the Silent Workhorse advisor, then take the research slot past WPA and down Neutrality Act until the second research slot. Election of 36 if you take FDR to help with stability you'll end up with poor support in Congress and need to invest a lot before you can take some of the other focuses; I think it might be better to do Neutrality Act right after new deal, because it will finish before you are at war, so you get the added benefit of having some congressmen support the government. Just delays your first research slot 70 days.
@@Citrondricka When you say you didn't release PR. Do you mean didn't do anything to them? Or you puppeted them?
As in all my puppeting runs, I've not had any issues of them declaring (though they may have been tweaked)
TBH though if I get some time off to play it, a run where I intentionally try and get wars with european powers might be interesting (democratic US almost WC)
Is the war with France a "separate" war from the one with Japan.
And as far as focus path, My runs before I've done: 25PP>NewDeal>WPA>Neutrality. NewDeal PP goes to leaving treaty, WPA to workhorse. And the 200 from Neutrality, part is spent on the Emergency decision, and then I try and grab both German and Italian scientists. After that, Arsenal of Democracy and then 2 research slots. If I were going to start stuff with Europe I might also go for the bonus synthetics research.
@@Nikarus2370 I didn't release PR at all, it stayed an occupied territory, so France always declared.
I found it's pretty easy to end up at war with pretty much all of Europe--led to a few resets because I wanted to join Allies. France will eventually join Allies on its own, and UK will join war against you in a few months. Using bases in the Netherlands/Belgium it should be easy to take out both UK and France, and I guess Philippines for AU/NZ, French Africa for South Africa. War with the Axis is easy because of being at war with Italy who will join. For eventually taking out the low countries and the other random countries that Germany declares on through focus, I'm not sure--I guess you can keep UK/Germany alive so they join Allies and then end up at war with you, or you can finish the war and join the Allies somehow I guess.
The wars are each separate, yeah. At least until someone joins a faction, first of which is usually France. After capitulating France I was still at war with Japan.
In my current game it's March 1940, I'm in the Allies, and Allies are at war with SU because SU decided to declare on Poland before Germany finished Danzig or War....and the war with the Axis ended basically right after Danzig or War, lol. I haven't joined the war yet and curious to see how this will turn out.
@@Citrondricka I'd definitely like an update on this, very entertaining
I'd like an update on this! Seems super entertaining and thinking about trying this path
loving the exploit series, no better way to enjoy paradox games imo! keep it up carly!
I'm still debating if this is an exploit or not, or if it's just taking advantage of the really stupid AI LMAO
Damn that's monsterously broken! Always bringing the good shit on this game.
Hope you are doing great btw
im doin 50/50 (smiles brokenly on the same broken level of this video)
3k hours how have I not heard of this? Great stuff!
Glad to share :)
Been messing around with the "most broken America" strat you did 6 months ago and recently found this video. Do you think somehow it might be possible to combine that strat with this exploit somehow (not necessarily staying democrat)? I've been trying to find something but no results yet.
That's disgusting and I'm going to do that next time I play. Just found your channel it's pretty sick I love the guides
Update: Just tried this 21 Sep, 2023 and it still works
I own all dlc except for the one with turkey's focus tree
I was scrolling through my subscription list and found out about you coming out. Even tho I don't play HOI anymore I wanted to leave this comment saying I support you and wish you a happy life Carly. You are valid, cheers from Brazil!
Thanks ❤
In my game Japan just didnt want to go to attu island, they had planned to go there but they wont get any ship to support them over there.
So I tried this today, with No Step Back; and Alaska is a colony state while I’m conversion, in my run. Also, my power ran negative; I’ve never had that happen before. I had Japan declare war by August 1936.
Im trying it out now and I have the same problem, I'll try just waiting for it to finish coring since the requirements for the decision would still be met
Perhaps it's the whiskey talkin, but did you just release atleast 2 key naval positions?
My first thought looking at this title was like "USA is OP already, is an exploit really necessary?" Then again, still very curious
If you make an agency first thing, and then send for diplomatic pressure, then it is possible to secure non-aggression with both UK and France before they get wargoals.
I love exploits with naval treaty - thanks that You can for example annex USA as democratic UK in 1936 :)
Does this also work in multiplayer. I am a beginner so I don't know much about this game.
No step back and it still works :)
I did it exactly as the video said and japan declared war on me on May 15th
Yeah uh I tried this and It didn't work so I'm confused now; I followed the steps but Attu Island wasn't a core before the Alaska decision had completed and the defense of the home land one didn't show, someone help here?
The decision doesn't have to complete for it to become a core, as soon as you click the decision it automatically becomes a core but it takes extra political power until the decision Runs Out. As for why the Japanese did not invade attu Island, the only thing I can think of is that the AI was broken for some weird reason. I would suggest just trying it again
Japan declared before my intervention in asia.
Jut wanted to annotate that, to the best of my ability, it is impossible to execute this strategy and combine it with the "Reestablish the Gold Standard"
on Regular. Not enough PP by the time Second London Conference happens. 10 PP short. Open to any ideas on finding those points.
No nat focus for 10 days, saves u the pp
The direct strategy itself is impossible to do for a F or Aggressive D (basically get War Powers act, and then kill your F support so you can go democratic) run as the US as there's no way to generate the PP to leave the treaties. But thinking on it. It'd be a tiny bit later, but you can probably use the Panay incident (can fire between 37 and 39 depending on how well Japan is doing in China), too get a war with Japan.
It can be touchy on timing though, and if you start a civil war while at war with Japan... I dunno. Mechanics of international wars and civil wars tend to clash a bit. I've seen civil wars where some external nation ends up with all the land. Also for the US civil war, several positive bonuses that the nation has will go to the Democratic side, and not the player's (assuming they're going for F)
Another option is to war Japan, and just wait around until the 1940 election... and if your demagogue has been in long enough, you should be able to pick the F candidate and switch without a civil war.
I only ask because I don’t remember what the new deal does. Is it possible to do this and then do the gold standard instead and then eventually do the confederacy?
Strictly speaking, no. Now I haven't tried this though. But in 38 or 39 there is an event based on Japan getting far enough in China, called the Panay incident. Which depending on choices, can start a war between the US and Japan.
Thus if you were to avoid a civil war (get a demagogue as fast as possible, don't ally the silver shirts or do the tax reform 1 that triggers the civil war. Avoid the civil war while in this proxy war with Japan, as civil war mechanics get murky when other nations are involved), by 1940 you can swap to F without the civil war. After that you can do silver shirts and the confederate focuses without triggering a civil war (I think).
This will put you a year and change behind the video on getting your War Economy, and it'll take a couple years longer to change govt than normal... But you'll still be a USA on War Eco 2-4 years earlier than normal
And now actually when we think about it the US was basically 1 industrial revolution ahead of the world back then so it is kinda historical
Love it! Does it still work on no step back?
Yes
After releasing Puerto Rico, I still have the Virgin Islands and France declares. Is my game broken?
awesome thx
Can you also let Mexico take provinces when you get an opportunity to eat with them?
Don't know if this is working any longer, just got declared by Japan, UK, France, Italy, and they all joined the allies together LOL
This has been patched with the new DLC BBA, I've done it 10 times to 1st Jan 1939 and Japan never invades Attu Island.
no it hasnt
This is literally the ultimate buff. A US is a nation where no civs are needed so you can literally make mils until 1939
What would happen if I kept Hawaii and so forth as Puppets but simply don't call them into the war?
Is it possible to do this in ironman?
I'm getting the notice from the UK on June 4th. Anyone else having trouble?
Not too broken, especially if you're playing multiplayer. It'll take a lot of luck or you'll just be trapped as a weak USA since no one bothered to challenge your navy
Holy shit I hope this isn’t patched for the no step back update, I wanna play around with this a little
Same, even though it is probably the most broken thing for the United States LOL
@@dustinl796 was it patached ?
@@castellomichel5851 i tried it today several times, seems not working for me :/
hmm i follow the instructions to the letter but i cant get out of the second London treaty what gives?
this video is a bit old so the maybe fixed this
You can't sign the second treaty, just don't do the decision. It's a separate decision to leave the initial treaty which you should do before the second treaty even finishes. After that it'll be a few days before Britain says "U wot m8" and you have to promise to disarm. Then you get 30 days to do so- in my experience the very second the 30 days is up, Japan declares war. They still take weeks or months before they invade Attu though.
How much do you need the political power from the New Deal? Is it possible to go Confederate/Fascist with this and just wait for the PP?
japan leaves the naval treaty after 37, so you either do 0 focuses and save up political power or do the new deal because you need 175 political power before june. (the time to leave the treaty ends july 36)
Hey guys! Could you please say, is it really necessary to get rid of Hawaii for this "glitch"??
It is, if you don't get rid of Hawaii then the Japanese a i will try to invade it instead but you cannot core it unlike Alaska in Puerto Rico.
@@dustinl796 Thanks!)
np, also something i forgot to mention aswell, attu is the only island they can invade without capping the other islands like guam, midway etc.... so the ai will try to always invade hawaii without range so they wont actually launch unlike attu :)
I couldn't acrivate homeland after they take attu anymore, woulda been cool but.
Same, do u know why?
You need to wait till granting alaska statehood is done.
Latest patch it still works, but Attu doesn't get core instantly, as Kalahomi said it takes until that decision completely finishes (I think 180 days from click). Because of that it might be worth delaying the New Deal until you have the 25 to pick Alaska statehood instantly, so it'll be done ticking ASAP.
The naval treaty doesn’t appear? I have the base game and nothing more
Maybe Paradox patched it out, I'll check it out later
holy moly
Ikr?
any dlc needed for this
it is a good exploit but how can i defeat japan if i dont have any equipment?
well, theres a few options. 1: if its historical you can wait until japan goes to war with china. because they are at war with both you and china the ai will send only half the troops to china so they get overrun to korea and once korea falls, japan has a civil war and then when the fascist loose, your war ends aswell. option 2: use the philipeans to rush either the southern part of the home island and defend the land crossing to get a 40% bonus until you get enough troops to win.
@@dustinl796 Unable to play the game to check for a bit. But don't you get the ultimatum from the Brits any time you go over their limit of capital ships, even if you're still in the treaty? I can swear I've gotten it in a few games around 38 or so if I built up a few more heavy cruisers (or refit some CLs to CVLs)
Made in usa
i shoulda used that joke -_-
And here I thought I was good for getting partial mob in early 38. I am a fool.
Not anymore if you do this in mp lmao
Woah... Your voice seriously changed.
Suprised you havent changed the channel name lol.
I kinda cant, the way that CZcams works is that once I change the name, CZcams will treat it like it's an entirely new channel and will no longer come up in search results when people type in my old channel name. I won't really be able to change it until I've hit 100,000 subscribers or maybe two hundred thousand.
Oh wow
Yea, pretty broken lol
It's so broken I love it
glad to hear it, im also coming out with a exploit vid in a couple days lol
i’m not getting the decision for naval treaty
Apparently, after watching this and wasting my time, you have to have the "Man the Guns" DLC to have the naval treaty.
I mean this has been a thing for a while now-
Could you fight off the Japanese okay ? Honestly HOI4 naval warfare scares me. It doesn't always make a whole lot of sense and its hard to figure out what to do.
Just have like four or five Marine divisions in the Philippines and as soon as they take attu Island invade them, then I rushed the hell out of them
One for the Algorithm and one I will try out in game as well :)
You could also try it out in multiplayer make your friends think that you're the best player in the world LMAO
I did my own variation on this strategy, I admit Puerto Rico as a state, prepare a naval invasion to France, and let them declare war on me. Then I can go to war with the UK by angering them with the manifest destiny branch. It does take a year longer to do with fascist America, but I gotta do a world conquest somehow.
How do you get enough pp for withdrawing from thebtreaty if tou do not do the new deal?
@@jeffmousebeans5055 I haven't played hoi4 in a really long time, but probably by not doing a focus. You will get 1 political power a day
awesome but, the title said manpower?
It does auto put you on extensive conscription ;)
hmmm correction this works jut that i was not patient enough my apologies
It did not work for me because attu island is considered a colony state
Yeah it definitely still works. Japan declared war right when I broke the disarmament agreement, but didn’t attack until April of ‘37. Plenty of time to get Alaska cored in the meantime.
Comment for support, good trick :)
Ty :)
does this still work?
Yup
Well how bout that!
yea, pretty epic huh?
@@dustinl796 how did you come about this?
Its not Iron Man so when video gets cut how can we know you didnt use consol comands 🤔
On the one hand, a very unbelievable opening - neither the lords of the usa nor the crowd they controlled wanted a war at that time.
On the other hand, there really is a need for a certain level of construction in order for the conquest in the "defensive" war to be solved without territorial losses and smoothly.
Thus, while you will get the restraints to go away, your power will be lost, which would be very important in activating the "national focuses" in the future, and therefore you will have to waste too much political force just to restore it.
In addition, in the absence of improvements, you will have greater losses and much more effort to make an operation a success, which you will not be able to do for years due to premature "awakening."
You’ll be practically at war earlier and for years to reclaim areas you shouldn’t, as it’s up to you to stay calm with the usa at the very beginning of the game.
It is not a good deal because of the much earlier drowning in war, even if it could be done in the beginning.
The usa has only won so far if they have provoked and waited to be attacked in a "tradition-respecting" way! Withdrawal from arms reduction talks is not the way to go!
Okay but now you’re at war with japan😂 how difficult is it to finish out that war in a reasonable time?
and? you still have more than 50 stability and 100 warsupport, japan cant reach your coast so if you only hold the island is pretty easy to ignore and wait for china to kill japan
Bruh thats easy as fuck to do
you wipe out Japan in '38 and great depression
but this still saves 2 years on that. and gives you a 50% defense and attack bonus on all core territories
oh..... just realized you werent criticizing me... lol srry